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Softy questioned Pete 6 yrs ago

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  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    edited September 2019
    I still think promoting Mark Helfrich in 2013 instead of hiring Pete (he wanted the job) was one of the biggest blunders in Oregon history. I'd be happy to take Pete off your hands.

    Pete can coach. Let's not forget the Boise St fiesta bowl against Oklahoma, arguably one of the greatest college football games of all time.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    this Hawaii game will be VERY important for the DBs. They need to really turn it around. We'll see

    Hawaii is going to score, probably a lot.
  • digits
    digits Member Posts: 1,724

    I still think promoting Mark Helfrich in 2013 instead of hiring Pete (he wanted the job) was one of the biggest blunders in Oregon history. I'd be happy to take Pete off your hands.

    Pete can coach. Let's not forget the Boise St fiesta bowl against Oklahoma, arguably one of the greatest college football games of all time.

    Bullshit. If Petersen wanted that job, he would've gotten the job. End of story.

    Also, he's not the same coach now as he was in that Fiesta Bowl. Not sure what happened to him, but he's gone dumbshit in close games, as well as bowl games.
  • whuggy
    whuggy Member Posts: 2,088

    maybe it is time for Pete to go back to the Mountain West. He seems to be stuck in that mindset. Give Lake a shot at HC. At least he has shown that he'll play the young guys. Mistakes happen but the talent is there.

    Why the fuck is Lake getting a pass here? His secondary was shit on Saturday and the defense was an abomination considering how bad Cal's offense is. Cam Williams has so far been the worst starter we've seen in the secondary since 2015.
    not giving him a pass, but he is doing what Pete isn't. He is putting the talent on the field. They made mistakes but they are young and they'll get it. If they don't, he has shown that he will put others out there. Pete doesn't do that
    Exactly why Petersen should get his mitts off the offense. I have been a huge Petersen honk all the way up to now but he has reached "show me" status. In addition his teams are generally horrible to watch. This is year six. For the first time I'm wondering if he hasn't hit his ceiling. I'm just not seeing him make the hard choices that champion level coaches do.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    digits said:

    I still think promoting Mark Helfrich in 2013 instead of hiring Pete (he wanted the job) was one of the biggest blunders in Oregon history. I'd be happy to take Pete off your hands.

    Pete can coach. Let's not forget the Boise St fiesta bowl against Oklahoma, arguably one of the greatest college football games of all time.

    Bullshit. If Petersen wanted that job, he would've gotten the job. End of story.

    Also, he's not the same coach now as he was in that Fiesta Bowl. Not sure what happened to him, but he's gone dumbshit in close games, as well as bowl games.
    https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/uw-husky-football/four-years-ago-oregon-passed-on-chance-to-woo-chris-petersen-from-boise/

    Even your own paper disagrees.

    Oregon was so drunk on the "Chip Kelly magic", they thought anything he did or said was right. They blindly took his advice when he said that Helfrich was the man for the job, even though Chip took away play calling duties from him after only one game.
  • GOAT
    GOAT Member Posts: 177
    We don’t create turnovers anymore. Idk why but it’s bullshit. You can’t be an elite defense without creating turnovers.
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,158 Standard Supporter
    GOAT said:

    We don’t create turnovers anymore. Idk why but it’s bullshit. You can’t be an elite defense without creating turnovers.

    I think this is the biggest problem that UW faces as a team, overall. The offense and defense are bound to have stupid games once in a while. You can mitigate that damage by forcing a couple turnovers and giving the offense a short field.

    Look at how the Seahawks won yesterday for a perfect example of that.
  • DoogCourics
    DoogCourics Member Posts: 5,739

    Lake gets a pass because of recruiting

    The defense has suffered since he took over play calling

    Sorry Race but disagree.

    In his first season as a playcaller, Lake had a better total defense and scoring defense than Kwat's previous 3 years. Can't say the defense has suffered when it's actually improved. The only knock was the lack of pressure and sacks, which now he's dialed up but to the detriment of big plays.

    Kwat has a major hand in the defense and game planning. They'll sit down and figure it out. The blitzing and pressure has led to more sacks but also blown assignments and big plays for the other team. They'll adjust and find a balance. LIPO.

    The offense on the other hand.... FYFMFE
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,016
    digits said:

    I still think promoting Mark Helfrich in 2013 instead of hiring Pete (he wanted the job) was one of the biggest blunders in Oregon history. I'd be happy to take Pete off your hands.

    Pete can coach. Let's not forget the Boise St fiesta bowl against Oklahoma, arguably one of the greatest college football games of all time.

    Bullshit. If Petersen wanted that job, he would've gotten the job. End of story.

    Also, he's not the same coach now as he was in that Fiesta Bowl. Not sure what happened to him, but he's gone dumbshit in close games, as well as bowl games.
    Not necessarily.

    Butch Davis wanted the Miami job and didn't get the Miami job.

    ADs gonna AD when they wanna AD.

    I had heard, too, that Oregon was on the short list of jobs he'd leave Boise for.
  • digits
    digits Member Posts: 1,724
    edited September 2019

    digits said:

    I still think promoting Mark Helfrich in 2013 instead of hiring Pete (he wanted the job) was one of the biggest blunders in Oregon history. I'd be happy to take Pete off your hands.

    Pete can coach. Let's not forget the Boise St fiesta bowl against Oklahoma, arguably one of the greatest college football games of all time.

    Bullshit. If Petersen wanted that job, he would've gotten the job. End of story.

    Also, he's not the same coach now as he was in that Fiesta Bowl. Not sure what happened to him, but he's gone dumbshit in close games, as well as bowl games.
    https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/uw-husky-football/four-years-ago-oregon-passed-on-chance-to-woo-chris-petersen-from-boise/

    Even your own paper disagrees.

    Oregon was so drunk on the "Chip Kelly magic", they thought anything he did or said was right. They blindly took his advice when he said that Helfrich was the man for the job, even though Chip took away play calling duties from him after only one game.
    Ha ha. That entire article is based on conjecture written by 0reg0n alum, Adam Jude.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    digits said:

    digits said:

    I still think promoting Mark Helfrich in 2013 instead of hiring Pete (he wanted the job) was one of the biggest blunders in Oregon history. I'd be happy to take Pete off your hands.

    Pete can coach. Let's not forget the Boise St fiesta bowl against Oklahoma, arguably one of the greatest college football games of all time.

    Bullshit. If Petersen wanted that job, he would've gotten the job. End of story.

    Also, he's not the same coach now as he was in that Fiesta Bowl. Not sure what happened to him, but he's gone dumbshit in close games, as well as bowl games.
    https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/uw-husky-football/four-years-ago-oregon-passed-on-chance-to-woo-chris-petersen-from-boise/

    Even your own paper disagrees.

    Oregon was so drunk on the "Chip Kelly magic", they thought anything he did or said was right. They blindly took his advice when he said that Helfrich was the man for the job, even though Chip took away play calling duties from him after only one game.
    Ha ha. That entire article is based on conjecture written by 0reg0n alum, Adam Jude.
    That doesn't make it false
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,036 Founders Club
    At this point David Shaw has a more successful big game record than Pete. Let that settle in.


  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,214 Founders Club

    At this point David Shaw has a more successful big game record than Pete. Let that settle in.





  • whuggy
    whuggy Member Posts: 2,088

    At this point David Shaw has a more successful big game record than Pete. Let that settle in.


    Shaw, Harbaugh, Petersen, Riley, etc. all Tier 2 coaches. Good but not great. Why should we think we deserve anything better? We are a Tier 2 fanbase. Hard to swallow but the truth often is.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,016
    whuggy said:

    At this point David Shaw has a more successful big game record than Pete. Let that settle in.


    Shaw, Harbaugh, Petersen, Riley, etc. all Tier 2 coaches. Good but not great. Why should we think we deserve anything better? We are a Tier 2 fanbase. Hard to swallow but the truth often is.

  • BeerThirty
    BeerThirty Member Posts: 2,465
    you don't change the process. The process changes you.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,036 Founders Club

    At this point David Shaw has a more successful big game record than Pete. Let that settle in.





    Are you telling me Pete hasn't been allowed to recruit a 5 star big armed QB?

    The first time he blew it with Skinny. The second time he's proving why Skinny was right to leave.

    Harb's record at Michigan has shown that Shaw's success isn't simply an inheritance. He's part of the formula.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited September 2019

    I still think promoting Mark Helfrich in 2013 instead of hiring Pete (he wanted the job) was one of the biggest blunders in Oregon history. I'd be happy to take Pete off your hands.



    Promoting Helfrich was the right move at the time. He plungered the defending champs in spectacular fashion and earned the ducks a second natty appearance in 4 years. Any coach that can get you to the championship game to gain a shot at the title is worth hiring. He just didn't have what it took to go the extra mile. For that, and for various other reasons that were obvious by that time, he should have been fired on the tarmac after the title game.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,214 Founders Club

    At this point David Shaw has a more successful big game record than Pete. Let that settle in.





    Are you telling me Pete hasn't been allowed to recruit a 5 star big armed QB?

    The first time he blew it with Skinny. The second time he's proving why Skinny was right to leave.

    Harb's record at Michigan has shown that Shaw's success isn't simply an inheritance. He's part of the formula.
    Shaw's a good coach. Top 10 in the county IMO. But...

    He didn't land Luck; he came to Stanford when Harbaugh was the coach.

    His biggest achievement was beating Oregon in 2012 and 13. And they beat Wisco in the Rose. There's no wins over the like of Alabama, Auburn, Penn St, etc.
  • jecornel
    jecornel Member Posts: 9,737
    Let's hypothetically say Pete takes over the Alabama program tomorrow. Does he match Saban's success over the next six years?
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559

    I still think promoting Mark Helfrich in 2013 instead of hiring Pete (he wanted the job) was one of the biggest blunders in Oregon history. I'd be happy to take Pete off your hands.



    Promoting Helfrich was the right move at the time. He plungered the defending champs in spectacular fashion and earned the ducks a second natty appearance in 4 years. Any coach that can get you to the championship game to gain a shot at the title is worth hiring. He just didn't have what it took to go the extra mile. For that, and for various other reasons that were obvious by that time, he should have been fired on the tarmac after the title game.
    A ham sandwich and a bag of cheetos could have coached that Mariota lead team to the Championship game. Florida State was an extremely flawed team, and the only quality team top to bottom Oregon played that year was Ohio State in the title game, and they got smoked with a +4 turnover margin. +4 turnover margin, and lost that game by 22.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,214 Founders Club
    jecornel said:

    Let's hypothetically say Pete takes over the Alabama program tomorrow. Does he match Saban's success over the next six years?

    I don't think so. My guess is he hates bag men and wouldn't be willing to do whatever it takes.


  • digits
    digits Member Posts: 1,724

    this Hawaii game will be VERY important for the DBs. They need to really turn it around. We'll see

    WR Cedric Byrd II is good, I expect he's gonna create some problems for us.