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  • UDubHusky23
    UDubHusky23 Member Posts: 889
    @sonics1993 how big of a liability are bob gregory and jordan paopao on the recruiting trail? I know pete will never make a change for gregory but it seems it like both of these coaches miss key guys year in and year out
  • UDubHusky23
    UDubHusky23 Member Posts: 889

    @sonics1993 how big of a liability are bob gregory and jordan paopao on the recruiting trail? I know pete will never make a change for gregory but it seems it like both of these coaches miss key guys year in and year out

    Jordan is a solid recruiter and has helped out with few commitments no one gives him credit for like Daniel Heimuli, Troy Fautanu and Noa Ngalu. Bob on the other hand is just not a good recruiter but is a excellent coach who knows how to develop guys. And the staff around him can make up for his downfall with recruiting and he can coach them up. Remember we had Ale Kaho who is a 5 star LB and Henry To'o To'o but the parents got in the way.
    but it seems both Bob gregory and Pete K have the same weaknesses when it comes to recruiting. Since gregory and coach K coach inside and outside linebackers, wouldn't it have been more logical to have a 10th assistant coach that can help out in recruiting the lb position
  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,681 Founders Club
    Parents love the academis of the SEC
  • whuggy
    whuggy Member Posts: 2,088
    Will you be taking your immense talent to Wigwam only status or be available to us cheaper folk? Hope not because it would be the ultimate Doogman move.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    Speaking of Bob Gregory, has there been any appreciable change in the way special teams will be coached this year? Gregory still owns the title of special teams coach but is he more or less involved this year? Are other coaches getting more involved?

    Cause last year cannot happen ever again.
  • sonics1993
    sonics1993 Member Posts: 1,460
    dhdawg said:

    Speaking of Bob Gregory, has there been any appreciable change in the way special teams will be coached this year? Gregory still owns the title of special teams coach but is he more or less involved this year? Are other coaches getting more involved?

    Cause last year cannot happen ever again.

    Every coach is involved in special teams, Bob just does more work but when it comes to coaching it, they are all involved.
  • whuggy
    whuggy Member Posts: 2,088

    @sonics1993 how big of a liability are bob gregory and jordan paopao on the recruiting trail? I know pete will never make a change for gregory but it seems it like both of these coaches miss key guys year in and year out

    Jordan is a solid recruiter and has helped out with few commitments no one gives him credit for like Daniel Heimuli, Troy Fautanu and Noa Ngalu. Bob on the other hand is just not a good recruiter but is a excellent coach who knows how to develop guys. And the staff around him can make up for his downfall with recruiting and he can coach them up. Remember we had Ale Kaho who is a 5 star LB and Henry To'o To'o but the parents got in the way.
    but it seems both Bob gregory and Pete K have the same weaknesses when it comes to recruiting. Since gregory and coach K coach inside and outside linebackers, wouldn't it have been more logical to have a 10th assistant coach that can help out in recruiting the lb position
    No because you need a jimmy replacement who knows the system and players beause you don't know how long he's going to stay. Plus salary is a issue, we only had 300k to spend a coach and your not going to get a good LB coach with that kind of salary.
    They wouldn't have to coach. Just sell.
  • insinceredawg
    insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117
    @sonics1993 based on your comments on Smalls, how confident are you that we'll make it on his top schools list?
  • sonics1993
    sonics1993 Member Posts: 1,460
    edited August 2019

    @sonics1993 how big of a liability are bob gregory and jordan paopao on the recruiting trail? I know pete will never make a change for gregory but it seems it like both of these coaches miss key guys year in and year out

    Jordan is a solid recruiter and has helped out with few commitments no one gives him credit for like Daniel Heimuli, Troy Fautanu and Noa Ngalu. Bob on the other hand is just not a good recruiter but is a excellent coach who knows how to develop guys. And the staff around him can make up for his downfall with recruiting and he can coach them up. Remember we had Ale Kaho who is a 5 star LB and Henry To'o To'o but the parents got in the way.
    To play devil's advocate- there are always good excuses for the fish that got away.

    Way too many big fish slip off our hooks at LB even with multiple staff members pitching in. Last year it was To'oTo'o the year before Ale this year Botelho and Herbig. All for good reasons but closers give recruits reasons to choose UW and to ignore reasons to go elsewhere.

    The staff around Bob has prevented it from being an unmitigated disaster by getting Heimuli among others but the talent at LB still lags the rest of the roster.

    Also why hasn't Bob's coaching and development translated to special teams success? Does he just not have enough time to devote or does he not have the knowledge or what?

    I expect our coverage teams will be better this year just due to increased depth but our kicking still seems like it could be a huge disaster. And why is Fuller returning punts? Is that CP's decision?

  • KevininTacoma
    KevininTacoma Member Posts: 122
    Speaking of Bob, will the 2021 LB Class be Will Latu, Julien Simon and Ethan Calvert?
  • sonics1993
    sonics1993 Member Posts: 1,460

    Speaking of Bob, will the 2021 LB Class be Will Latu, Julien Simon and Ethan Calvert?

    To soon to say
  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member Posts: 14,087

    Had to follow you here sonics, see what this place is all about...

    It’s horrible! LEaVEe!!!



    But no, really, stay!
  • KrunkJuice
    KrunkJuice Member Posts: 2,070
    @sonics1993 - Do you consider the other recruit Roof is talking about “CATACLYSM”? Or is he just a very good addition to the class?
  • UDubHusky23
    UDubHusky23 Member Posts: 889

    @sonics1993 how big of a liability are bob gregory and jordan paopao on the recruiting trail? I know pete will never make a change for gregory but it seems it like both of these coaches miss key guys year in and year out

    Jordan is a solid recruiter and has helped out with few commitments no one gives him credit for like Daniel Heimuli, Troy Fautanu and Noa Ngalu. Bob on the other hand is just not a good recruiter but is a excellent coach who knows how to develop guys. And the staff around him can make up for his downfall with recruiting and he can coach them up. Remember we had Ale Kaho who is a 5 star LB and Henry To'o To'o but the parents got in the way.
    but it seems both Bob gregory and Pete K have the same weaknesses when it comes to recruiting. Since gregory and coach K coach inside and outside linebackers, wouldn't it have been more logical to have a 10th assistant coach that can help out in recruiting the lb position
    No because you need a jimmy replacement who knows the system and players beause you don't know how long he's going to stay. Plus salary is a issue, we only had 300k to spend a coach and your not going to get a good LB coach with that kind of salary.
    If Lake were to leave, you think Pete would hand the DB room over to Will Harris or try to bring Gerald Alexander back as well

  • sonics1993
    sonics1993 Member Posts: 1,460

    @sonics1993 how big of a liability are bob gregory and jordan paopao on the recruiting trail? I know pete will never make a change for gregory but it seems it like both of these coaches miss key guys year in and year out

    Jordan is a solid recruiter and has helped out with few commitments no one gives him credit for like Daniel Heimuli, Troy Fautanu and Noa Ngalu. Bob on the other hand is just not a good recruiter but is a excellent coach who knows how to develop guys. And the staff around him can make up for his downfall with recruiting and he can coach them up. Remember we had Ale Kaho who is a 5 star LB and Henry To'o To'o but the parents got in the way.
    but it seems both Bob gregory and Pete K have the same weaknesses when it comes to recruiting. Since gregory and coach K coach inside and outside linebackers, wouldn't it have been more logical to have a 10th assistant coach that can help out in recruiting the lb position
    No because you need a jimmy replacement who knows the system and players beause you don't know how long he's going to stay. Plus salary is a issue, we only had 300k to spend a coach and your not going to get a good LB coach with that kind of salary.
    If Lake were to leave, you think Pete would hand the DB room over to Will Harris or try to bring Gerald Alexander back as well

    Plan is for Wil to get it.
  • UDubHusky23
    UDubHusky23 Member Posts: 889

    @sonics1993 how big of a liability are bob gregory and jordan paopao on the recruiting trail? I know pete will never make a change for gregory but it seems it like both of these coaches miss key guys year in and year out

    Jordan is a solid recruiter and has helped out with few commitments no one gives him credit for like Daniel Heimuli, Troy Fautanu and Noa Ngalu. Bob on the other hand is just not a good recruiter but is a excellent coach who knows how to develop guys. And the staff around him can make up for his downfall with recruiting and he can coach them up. Remember we had Ale Kaho who is a 5 star LB and Henry To'o To'o but the parents got in the way.
    but it seems both Bob gregory and Pete K have the same weaknesses when it comes to recruiting. Since gregory and coach K coach inside and outside linebackers, wouldn't it have been more logical to have a 10th assistant coach that can help out in recruiting the lb position
    No because you need a jimmy replacement who knows the system and players beause you don't know how long he's going to stay. Plus salary is a issue, we only had 300k to spend a coach and your not going to get a good LB coach with that kind of salary.
    If Lake were to leave, you think Pete would hand the DB room over to Will Harris or try to bring Gerald Alexander back as well

    Plan is for Wil to get it.
    If Wil takes it.... what position group you think a tenth coach will be used for?
  • sonics1993
    sonics1993 Member Posts: 1,460

    @sonics1993 how big of a liability are bob gregory and jordan paopao on the recruiting trail? I know pete will never make a change for gregory but it seems it like both of these coaches miss key guys year in and year out

    Jordan is a solid recruiter and has helped out with few commitments no one gives him credit for like Daniel Heimuli, Troy Fautanu and Noa Ngalu. Bob on the other hand is just not a good recruiter but is a excellent coach who knows how to develop guys. And the staff around him can make up for his downfall with recruiting and he can coach them up. Remember we had Ale Kaho who is a 5 star LB and Henry To'o To'o but the parents got in the way.
    but it seems both Bob gregory and Pete K have the same weaknesses when it comes to recruiting. Since gregory and coach K coach inside and outside linebackers, wouldn't it have been more logical to have a 10th assistant coach that can help out in recruiting the lb position
    No because you need a jimmy replacement who knows the system and players beause you don't know how long he's going to stay. Plus salary is a issue, we only had 300k to spend a coach and your not going to get a good LB coach with that kind of salary.
    If Lake were to leave, you think Pete would hand the DB room over to Will Harris or try to bring Gerald Alexander back as well

    Plan is for Wil to get it.
    If Wil takes it.... what position group you think a tenth coach will be used for?
    I wonder that myself, my guess would be a special teams coach or bring in anthor DB coach.
  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,990
    Do you have any stories from when Sark was coach here or at USC or Bama?