Jake Overman, 2020 3* TE, Anaheim (Servite), CA (Offered)
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Yeah, he was a disaster of a position coach as wellRoadDawg55 said:
Lubick was a mistake from the beginning.dawgs206 said:
I was fully on board with the LIPO crowd on Paopao because of the production we've had from TE's. Probably more on the side to keep him on staff. That was also before I knew we were for sure taking 3 TE's this class, which is obviously insanely rare. Even more so when you consider our TE coach is one of our bottom 3 recruiters on staff.RoadDawg55 said:
I know TBSers like to be proactive in firing coaches, but his group has played too well for it to be as cut and dry as many on here make it.NEsnake12 said:This is on Pete as much as it’s on Paopao. Letting it get to this point in inexcusable
The TE room is stacked know so I'm not concerned about the development this year (or next). If we knew we needed 3 TE's this class we are doing this a year late because more than likely the results would be sub par. This class is going to be 1/2 our TE room for the next 4 years. At some point you have to be proactive instead of reactive.
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Can he play Buck?
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Not sure about that, I think the issue after the terrorist got the OC. Lubick checked the fuck outRoadDawg55 said:
Lubick was a mistake from the beginning.dawgs206 said:
I was fully on board with the LIPO crowd on Paopao because of the production we've had from TE's. Probably more on the side to keep him on staff. That was also before I knew we were for sure taking 3 TE's this class, which is obviously insanely rare. Even more so when you consider our TE coach is one of our bottom 3 recruiters on staff.RoadDawg55 said:
I know TBSers like to be proactive in firing coaches, but his group has played too well for it to be as cut and dry as many on here make it.NEsnake12 said:This is on Pete as much as it’s on Paopao. Letting it get to this point in inexcusable
The TE room is stacked know so I'm not concerned about the development this year (or next). If we knew we needed 3 TE's this class we are doing this a year late because more than likely the results would be sub par. This class is going to be 1/2 our TE room for the next 4 years. At some point you have to be proactive instead of reactive.
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Ektard today:jhfstyle24 said:
Rogers' teammate at EC informed me he's not even that good. I'm not super concerned about him getting offered. Gee Scott was another issue, but Adams seems to see the problem there.proof said:I'm sure Rogers is really enjoying these offers
But still, does that mean we should be offering JAG's? Absolutely not. If the quality isn't there then don't fucking offer if you don't need it. Jfc.
I'm sure the doogs will say "but powpow develops well so it's fine that we don't get studs!"
IMAGINE WHAT HE COULD DO WITH STUDS!!! WHY ARE YOU SATISFIED WITH MEDIOCRITY???
Not hard. GET THE BEST PLAYERS. DEVELOP THEM. GET SOME HARDWARE. REPEAT.
"Heart and desire have been a big question mark for him. Not only with the UW staff, but also those within the EC program." -
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Julius, please stay out of this.DoogCourics said: -
Jake? Pass.
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If we are offering this level of talent now how in the hell did we not get Kyle Patterson in the boat last year What the hell is going on out there?!?
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But he develops players. TE production is not an issueAtomicDawg said:If we are offering this level of talent now how in the hell did we not get Kyle Patterson in the boat last year What the hell is going on out there?!?
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Eh, high school teammates.DoogCourics said: -
Ektard reads these boreds.DoogCourics said:
Ektard today:jhfstyle24 said:
Rogers' teammate at EC informed me he's not even that good. I'm not super concerned about him getting offered. Gee Scott was another issue, but Adams seems to see the problem there.proof said:I'm sure Rogers is really enjoying these offers
But still, does that mean we should be offering JAG's? Absolutely not. If the quality isn't there then don't fucking offer if you don't need it. Jfc.
I'm sure the doogs will say "but powpow develops well so it's fine that we don't get studs!"
IMAGINE WHAT HE COULD DO WITH STUDS!!! WHY ARE YOU SATISFIED WITH MEDIOCRITY???
Not hard. GET THE BEST PLAYERS. DEVELOP THEM. GET SOME HARDWARE. REPEAT.
"Heart and desire have been a big question mark for him. Not only with the UW staff, but also those within the EC program."
It's really fucking sad. Do your job! -
What a frustrating class. We are absolutely killing it at some positions while at the same time offerrrng fucking JAG's. We've already taken a commit from Ronald McDonald and invited Sir Lancelot to visit.
I don't care if that 271 ranking isn't accurate for DJ Rodgers, he's local and this kid is just another JAG with a stupid name.
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Agree. Its frustrating. We should be owning the west coast and instead we are offering jags. This fucking guy is beaver material. Wtf
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Whether they offer Rogers or not is not my frustration. The level of talent they are offering though is just a throw away roster spot. After producing nfl picks the last few years and Daniels and Perkins also getting checks in the nfl, this is alarming.
I get that Powpow seems to do a good job coaching but these swings and misses are going to catch up to us.
Thankful that no other teams around the country know where Tumwater wa is because otton was a Lay up. -
With Paopao recruiting we need in-state lay ups to save our asses every time at TE.AtomicDawg said:Whether they offer Rogers or not is not my frustration. The level of talent they are offering though is just a throw away roster spot. After producing nfl picks the last few years and Daniels and Perkins also getting checks in the nfl, this is alarming.
I get that Powpow seems to do a good job coaching but these swings and misses are going to catch up to us.
Thankful that no other teams around the country know where Tumwater wa is because otton was a Lay up. -
Rogers disagrees.StrongArmCobra said:
With Paopao recruiting we need in-state lay ups to save our asses every time at TE.AtomicDawg said:Whether they offer Rogers or not is not my frustration. The level of talent they are offering though is just a throw away roster spot. After producing nfl picks the last few years and Daniels and Perkins also getting checks in the nfl, this is alarming.
I get that Powpow seems to do a good job coaching but these swings and misses are going to catch up to us.
Thankful that no other teams around the country know where Tumwater wa is because otton was a Lay up. -
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I wish it was just a hat on the table.Neighbor2972 said: -
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Hopefully we offered too late
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What a top 8, full of blue bloods. An SEC team, a Big-12 team, the Pac:-12 south champs.
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Now that's a who's who of bottom-feeding P5 programs, plus UNLV and Oregon State.Neighbor2972 said: -
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At 6-4, 235 pounds, Overman has good size and is a prototype tight end who can block as well as catch the football. He shows very good hands and can make plays down the field as well as pick up those key 1st downs working the middle of the field.
He has excellent body control and athleticism and is the kind of tight end you can use in just about any situation. He can play as an inline tight end, you can spilt out wide or play him in the slot and he should be a very productive player at the next level.
On Sunday, Overman tweeted out a top eight that included Arizona, Cal, Kansas, Oregon State, UNLV, Utah, Vanderbilt and Washington.
Overman has already officially visited Oregon State and the Beavers have made a strong connection with him. We thought there was a chance Overman could make a summer decision and if he did, the Beavers would have likely been the choice.
Washington is his most recent offer and we know that was a big one for him. The Huskies have two tight ends already committed but plan to take a third and Overman said he will definitely take an official visit in the fall to Seattle. So who could land the final three visits?
Back in June, Overman said he could potentially take a July official visit and mentioned Vandy, Kansas and Cal as three schools he was considering. He didn’t end up visiting anyone with the open weekend but it won’t surprise us if at least 1-2 of those programs are able to get Overman on campus.
Arizona was an early offer for Overman and has been a constant in his recruitment. We haven't heard Utah and UNLV mentioned as much as the other schools on Overman's list so it will be interesting to see if they get land a visit. If we to handicap it right now, Oregon State and Washington look to be doing the best with Overman but there's still plenty of time in his recruitment for another program to make a serious run as well. -
I’m really glad @sonics1993 doesn’t have an update on this one. Way to read the room!
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@NorwegianHuskyDoogCourics said:At 6-4, 235 pounds, Overman has good size and is a prototype tight end who can block as well as catch the football. He shows very good hands and can make plays down the field as well as pick up those key 1st downs working the middle of the field.
He has excellent body control and athleticism and is the kind of tight end you can use in just about any situation. He can play as an inline tight end, you can spilt out wide or play him in the slot and he should be a very productive player at the next level.
On Sunday, Overman tweeted out a top eight that included Arizona, Cal, Kansas, Oregon State, UNLV, Utah, Vanderbilt and Washington.
Overman has already officially visited Oregon State and the Beavers have made a strong connection with him. We thought there was a chance Overman could make a summer decision and if he did, the Beavers would have likely been the choice.
Washington is his most recent offer and we know that was a big one for him. The Huskies have two tight ends already committed but plan to take a third and Overman said he will definitely take an official visit in the fall to Seattle. So who could land the final three visits?
Back in June, Overman said he could potentially take a July official visit and mentioned Vandy, Kansas and Cal as three schools he was considering. He didn’t end up visiting anyone with the open weekend but it won’t surprise us if at least 1-2 of those programs are able to get Overman on campus.
Arizona was an early offer for Overman and has been a constant in his recruitment. We haven't heard Utah and UNLV mentioned as much as the other schools on Overman's list so it will be interesting to see if they get land a visit. If we to handicap it right now, Oregon State and Washington look to be doing the best with Overman but there's still plenty of time in his recruitment for another program to make a serious run as well.
I don't write the articles, I just relay the message. But I understand your poont.
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visiting Sept. 28 for the USC game
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Was hoping he would visit in December to provide more time for the coaches to evaluate and eventually offer DJ Rogers.dhdawg said:visiting Sept. 28 for the USC game
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The DB room situation makes me think the coaches have decided to just wrap up the class ASAP and then full court press Smalls, Banks, and Carlton.insinceredawg said:
Was hoping he would visit in December to provide more time for the coaches to evaluate and eventually offer DJ Rogers.dhdawg said:visiting Sept. 28 for the USC game
If Rogers hasn’t shown he loves football and works his ass off by the start of his Senior year, Pete may just be over it.
And with the info I’ve learned recently from how the 247 rankings are done, TE is the toughest to figure out. The elite guys are elite. The rest that make it to the NFL were lowly rated dudes who all took massive leaps in college with their physical development.
So who knows how important it is to get Rogers. If he is talented but won’t work hard, maybe getting guys like Culp and Redman as your A list then filling the cracks with guys you can develop is all you need.
Fuck if I know, I’m no expert.
Edit: this is in no way saying that we haven’t completely fucked up TE recruiting every year because the top prospects we are after always go elsewhere. That’s a failure. Even if we get C and D targets and coach them up.