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  • DawgWagonDan
    DawgWagonDan Member Posts: 789
    RoadDawg55 said:

    Beno4Life said:

    I still can't believe we didn't offer/sign Evan Weaver. Kid wanted to be a Dawg. Now he's all Pac-12 with a shitty number. Good thing we took Amandre Williams and Myles Rice instead!

    Was a big miss. Who knows if we would have made him an ILB. Either way, he would be a starter by now.
    He'd be a WTE for us?
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  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,320
    edited August 2019
    HonestDon said:

    PostGameOrangeSlices said:

    Eason starts this year, leads us to another Pac 12 title. Gets drafted in the 1st round, before Herbert.

    Morris does not redshirt in 2019, beats out Haener, Sirmon, and Garbers rather easily next year. Haener transfers before the season, Sirmon transfers after the 2020 season.

    Morris starts 2020, 2021, 2022. In 2023 a RS Sam Huard starts.

    I’m happy Morris flashed a few times in week 1 of his first fall camp. But I’m not ready to anoint him and call him a multi year starter. As for 2019, he probably stays at qb4 all year (I appreciate the bold take but he absolutely redshirts).

    Prediction: Skinny starts this year, plays well enough to be 10-2 pac 12 champs but has some ups and downs. He comes back in 2020 for a shot at the playoff. Jake Hi-ner doesn’t get leapfrogged and backs up Skinny both years because Pete loves slow strategy, midget tryhards. At this point Morris is still 3rd/4th string with Sirmon.

    Then spring/fall camp 2021 becomes the ultimate QB Battle Royal between 5th year senior Hi-ner, 4th year junior Sirmon, 3rd year soph Morris, redshirt freshman Garbers and true freshman Huard. At least one couch sell among the losers. More if Huard wins the job.

    Sirmon seems like an iron lock to (re)enter the portal if he doesn’t win the 2021 Battle Royale (and if he hasn’t already transferred to Montana State). But is it that far fetched to imagine a scenario where the 6’5” 4th year junior finally overtakes Hi-ner while fending off Morris/Huard? It doesn’t fit with the recent dooging out on Morris narrative or the Sam Huard as God narrative but it’s at least plausible.

    I would personally love to see Skinny to Sirmon to Huard—a succession of big, strong armed Washington quarterbacks uninterrupted by midget JAGs.

    Having said all that, DDY ranked Morris the worst recruit in 2019 so he’s probably elite and destined for cataclysmic greatness.

    This is good stuff. You're likely right.

    However, I don't think Sirmon will ever start a game after announcing the Portal move. He knows Yankoff is going to be gone, one less competitor who by all accounts Sirmon was better than. So why else would he try to sell the couch? Was he rattled by how Morris carried himself and practiced? It seems interesting, and definitely not a positive sign for how he feels about the situation.

    Could he focus and step his game up and remain? Sure. I just think it's more likely Morris is better. Morris is a guy who can make all the throws, is also accurate, and takes care of the ball. Haener does not take care of the ball - he is a turnover machine from practice reports and the Cal game. On the pic 6, there were 2 other UW checkdown WRs wide open. Instead he threw it in the middle into triple coverage looking for the strike. If he fixes turnovers while riding the pine behind Eason for 1-2 more years, I guess Haener could start.

    This board will melt down if Eason leads UW to a 9-3 Alamo Bowl season, leaves for the draft, and Haener is named the starter. And proceeds to start again in 2021.

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  • Emoterman
    Emoterman Member Posts: 3,333
    edited August 2019
    digits said:

    Here's what I don't understand about the whole Haener situation: Petersen stresses ad nauseam that turnovers are one of, if not the, most important stats related to winning, which I 100% agree with.

    First series @ Cal, he throws a pick six. Since then, we? continually hear that Haener is an interception throwing machine in practice. So why in the fuck would Haener still be splitting reps. with 1st/2nd string? Delegate Haener to 3rd/4th string, and start giving Sirmon and Morris more invaluable reps. Develop a solid 2nd string QB by playing him in mop up duty, so you don't pigeon hole yourself.

    This is why, in the end, there is no real QB competition, just the presentation of one.

    There is no narrative quality to having Eason competing with an inferior/younger version of himself (Sirmon). Peterson can plausibly keep Eason on his toes with film room maven, been in the progrum longest Haener.
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  • H_D
    H_D Member Posts: 6,098
    digits said:

    Here's what I don't understand about the whole Haener situation: Petersen stresses ad nauseam that turnovers are one of, if not the, most important stats related to winning, which I 100% agree with.

    First series @ Cal, he throws a pick six. Since then, we? continually hear that Haener is an interception throwing machine in practice. So why in the fuck would Haener still be splitting reps. with 1st/2nd string? Delegate Haener to 3rd/4th string, and start giving Sirmon and Morris more invaluable reps. Develop a solid 2nd string QB by playing him in mop up duty, so you don't pigeon hole yourself.

    “We could not get anything going on offense,” Petersen explained of the radical move. “I was just trying to spark something. I just wanted him to look at things.”
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  • digits
    digits Member Posts: 1,787
    Emoterman said:

    digits said:

    Here's what I don't understand about the whole Haener situation: Petersen stresses ad nauseam that turnovers are one of, if not the, most important stats related to winning, which I 100% agree with.

    First series @ Cal, he throws a pick six. Since then, we? continually hear that Haener is an interception throwing machine in practice. So why in the fuck would Haener still be splitting reps. with 1st/2nd string? Delegate Haener to 3rd/4th string, and start giving Sirmon and Morris more invaluable reps. Develop a solid 2nd string QB by playing him in mop up duty, so you don't pigeon hole yourself.

    This is why, in the end, there is no real QB competition, just the presentation of one.

    There is no narrative quality to having Eason competing with an inferior/younger version of himself (Sirmon). Peterson can plausibly keep Eason on his toes with film room maven, been in the progrum longest Haener.
    *Petersen
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  • RedRocket
    RedRocket Member Posts: 1,527
    PostGameOrangeSlices said:

    HonestDon said:

    PostGameOrangeSlices said:

    Eason starts this year, leads us to another Pac 12 title. Gets drafted in the 1st round, before Herbert.

    Morris does not redshirt in 2019, beats out Haener, Sirmon, and Garbers rather easily next year. Haener transfers before the season, Sirmon transfers after the 2020 season.

    Morris starts 2020, 2021, 2022. In 2023 a RS Sam Huard starts.

    I’m happy Morris flashed a few times in week 1 of his first fall camp. But I’m not ready to anoint him and call him a multi year starter. As for 2019, he probably stays at qb4 all year (I appreciate the bold take but he absolutely redshirts).

    Prediction: Skinny starts this year, plays well enough to be 10-2 pac 12 champs but has some ups and downs. He comes back in 2020 for a shot at the playoff. Jake Hi-ner doesn’t get leapfrogged and backs up Skinny both years because Pete loves slow strategy, midget tryhards. At this point Morris is still 3rd/4th string with Sirmon.

    Then spring/fall camp 2021 becomes the ultimate QB Battle Royal between 5th year senior Hi-ner, 4th year junior Sirmon, 3rd year soph Morris, redshirt freshman Garbers and true freshman Huard. At least one couch sell among the losers. More if Huard wins the job.

    Sirmon seems like an iron lock to (re)enter the portal if he doesn’t win the 2021 Battle Royale (and if he hasn’t already transferred to Montana State). But is it that far fetched to imagine a scenario where the 6’5” 4th year junior finally overtakes Hi-ner while fending off Morris/Huard? It doesn’t fit with the recent dooging out on Morris narrative or the Sam Huard as God narrative but it’s at least plausible.

    I would personally love to see Skinny to Sirmon to Huard—a succession of big, strong armed Washington quarterbacks uninterrupted by midget JAGs.

    Having said all that, DDY ranked Morris the worst recruit in 2019 so he’s probably elite and destined for cataclysmic greatness.

    This is good stuff. You're likely right.

    However, I don't think Sirmon will ever start a game after announcing the Portal move. He knows Yankoff is going to be gone, one less competitor who by all accounts Sirmon was better than. So why else would he try to sell the couch? Was he rattled by how Morris carried himself and practiced? It seems interesting, and definitely not a positive sign for how he feels about the situation.

    Could he focus and step his game up and remain? Sure. I just think it's more likely Morris is better. Morris is a guy who can make all the throws, is also accurate, and takes care of the ball. Haener does not take care of the ball - he is a turnover machine from practice reports and the Cal game. On the pic 6, there were 2 other UW checkdown WRs wide open. Instead he threw it in the middle into triple coverage looking for the strike. If he fixes turnovers while riding the pine behind Eason for 1-2 more years, I guess Haener could start.

    This board will melt down if Eason leads UW to a 9-3 Alamo Bowl season, leaves for the draft, and Haener is named the starter. And proceeds to start again in 2021.

    Don't think Morris had much to do with Sirmon's brief stint into the portal. When Sirmon committed it looked like he had an easy path to starting in 2019. He was probably sold on just having to beat out Haener and Bridge-Gadd who seemed like total scrubs at the time.

    Yankoff committed and it seemed like it would be him or Sirmon in 2019. Then Eason transfers and Haener somehow emerges as a decent QB. Sirmon has to be a little salty about all of this since I'm sure he envisioned himself walking into a starting job after Browning left.

    Morris sounds like he's been doing well in camp but he's also not running with the 1s and 2s. I'm still pulling for Sirmon next year assuming Eason LEAVES. Think he's the most physically talented QB on the roster. Arm might not be as big as Easton's but not far off. Thiccc trunk and looks like a load to tackle.
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  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,320
    RedRocket said:

    PostGameOrangeSlices said:

    HonestDon said:

    PostGameOrangeSlices said:

    Eason starts this year, leads us to another Pac 12 title. Gets drafted in the 1st round, before Herbert.

    Morris does not redshirt in 2019, beats out Haener, Sirmon, and Garbers rather easily next year. Haener transfers before the season, Sirmon transfers after the 2020 season.

    Morris starts 2020, 2021, 2022. In 2023 a RS Sam Huard starts.

    I’m happy Morris flashed a few times in week 1 of his first fall camp. But I’m not ready to anoint him and call him a multi year starter. As for 2019, he probably stays at qb4 all year (I appreciate the bold take but he absolutely redshirts).

    Prediction: Skinny starts this year, plays well enough to be 10-2 pac 12 champs but has some ups and downs. He comes back in 2020 for a shot at the playoff. Jake Hi-ner doesn’t get leapfrogged and backs up Skinny both years because Pete loves slow strategy, midget tryhards. At this point Morris is still 3rd/4th string with Sirmon.

    Then spring/fall camp 2021 becomes the ultimate QB Battle Royal between 5th year senior Hi-ner, 4th year junior Sirmon, 3rd year soph Morris, redshirt freshman Garbers and true freshman Huard. At least one couch sell among the losers. More if Huard wins the job.

    Sirmon seems like an iron lock to (re)enter the portal if he doesn’t win the 2021 Battle Royale (and if he hasn’t already transferred to Montana State). But is it that far fetched to imagine a scenario where the 6’5” 4th year junior finally overtakes Hi-ner while fending off Morris/Huard? It doesn’t fit with the recent dooging out on Morris narrative or the Sam Huard as God narrative but it’s at least plausible.

    I would personally love to see Skinny to Sirmon to Huard—a succession of big, strong armed Washington quarterbacks uninterrupted by midget JAGs.

    Having said all that, DDY ranked Morris the worst recruit in 2019 so he’s probably elite and destined for cataclysmic greatness.

    This is good stuff. You're likely right.

    However, I don't think Sirmon will ever start a game after announcing the Portal move. He knows Yankoff is going to be gone, one less competitor who by all accounts Sirmon was better than. So why else would he try to sell the couch? Was he rattled by how Morris carried himself and practiced? It seems interesting, and definitely not a positive sign for how he feels about the situation.

    Could he focus and step his game up and remain? Sure. I just think it's more likely Morris is better. Morris is a guy who can make all the throws, is also accurate, and takes care of the ball. Haener does not take care of the ball - he is a turnover machine from practice reports and the Cal game. On the pic 6, there were 2 other UW checkdown WRs wide open. Instead he threw it in the middle into triple coverage looking for the strike. If he fixes turnovers while riding the pine behind Eason for 1-2 more years, I guess Haener could start.

    This board will melt down if Eason leads UW to a 9-3 Alamo Bowl season, leaves for the draft, and Haener is named the starter. And proceeds to start again in 2021.

    Don't think Morris had much to do with Sirmon's brief stint into the portal. When Sirmon committed it looked like he had an easy path to starting in 2019. He was probably sold on just having to beat out Haener and Bridge-Gadd who seemed like total scrubs at the time.

    Yankoff committed and it seemed like it would be him or Sirmon in 2019. Then Eason transfers and Haener somehow emerges as a decent QB. Sirmon has to be a little salty about all of this since I'm sure he envisioned himself walking into a starting job after Browning left.

    Morris sounds like he's been doing well in camp but he's also not running with the 1s and 2s. I'm still pulling for Sirmon next year assuming Eason LEAVES. Think he's the most physically talented QB on the roster. Arm might not be as big as Easton's but not far off. Thiccc trunk and looks like a load to tackle.
    We all know how well that same skillset worked out for Lindquist. Sirmon is Lindquist 2.0
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  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    digits said:

    Emoterman said:

    digits said:

    Here's what I don't understand about the whole Haener situation: Petersen stresses ad nauseam that turnovers are one of, if not the, most important stats related to winning, which I 100% agree with.

    First series @ Cal, he throws a pick six. Since then, we? continually hear that Haener is an interception throwing machine in practice. So why in the fuck would Haener still be splitting reps. with 1st/2nd string? Delegate Haener to 3rd/4th string, and start giving Sirmon and Morris more invaluable reps. Develop a solid 2nd string QB by playing him in mop up duty, so you don't pigeon hole yourself.

    This is why, in the end, there is no real QB competition, just the presentation of one.

    There is no narrative quality to having Eason competing with an inferior/younger version of himself (Sirmon). Peterson can plausibly keep Eason on his toes with film room maven, been in the progrum longest Haener.
    *Petersen
    They all look the same
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  • dOgmaster
    dOgmaster Member Posts: 589
    digits said:

    Here's what I don't understand about the whole Haener situation: Petersen stresses ad nauseam that turnovers are one of, if not the, most important stats related to winning, which I 100% agree with.

    First series @ Cal, he throws a pick six. Since then, we? continually hear that Haener is an interception throwing machine in practice. So why in the fuck would Haener still be splitting reps. with 1st/2nd string? Delegate Haener to 3rd/4th string, and start giving Sirmon and Morris more invaluable reps. Develop a solid 2nd string QB by playing him in mop up duty, so you don't pigeon hole yourself.

    Throwing a pic in practice can mean a few things, as we react to the result. From a coaching standpoint its more important to know why. Was there a mis-commincation, did the receiver run the wrong route, was the ball tipped at the line/linebackers, or db’s. I prefer to focus on production as that normally is a better indicator of system knowledge and execution.

    Regarding Yankoff I understand his transfer. He was probably 5th on the depth chart, and when you have 3 squads the 4th and 5th qb’s don't get many quality snaps. It is hard to out develop the qb’s that are running the first two teams. And Morris sounds legit.

    Sirmon may be in a pickle if he falls behind Morris. Can he play TE?

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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,508 Founders Club
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:

    dOgmaster said:

    digits said:

    Here's what I don't understand about the whole Haener situation: Petersen stresses ad nauseam that turnovers are one of, if not the, most important stats related to winning, which I 100% agree with.

    First series @ Cal, he throws a pick six. Since then, we? continually hear that Haener is an interception throwing machine in practice. So why in the fuck would Haener still be splitting reps. with 1st/2nd string? Delegate Haener to 3rd/4th string, and start giving Sirmon and Morris more invaluable reps. Develop a solid 2nd string QB by playing him in mop up duty, so you don't pigeon hole yourself.

    Throwing a pic in practice can mean a few things, as we react to the result. From a coaching standpoint its more important to know why. Was there a mis-commincation, did the receiver run the wrong route, was the ball tipped at the line/linebackers, or db’s. I prefer to focus on production as that normally is a better indicator of system knowledge and execution.

    Regarding Yankoff I understand his transfer. He was probably 5th on the depth chart, and when you have 3 squads the 4th and 5th qb’s don't get many quality snaps. It is hard to out develop the qb’s that are running the first two teams. And Morris sounds legit.

    Sirmon may be in a pickle if he falls behind Morris. Can he play TE?

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  • dOgmaster
    dOgmaster Member Posts: 589
    I am an Oregon alum, but live in seattle and follow both programs, more than some Huskie fans. Occasionally there is good information on this board, which is why I have been coming here for years. I chime in when I think I have something constructive to add, and try not to talk stupid shit. Sorry if I am not always offensive.

    If your only comment is to belittle me because I root a team you don’t then I think my post was a good addition to the discussion.

    Shoot, this is HH.... DIAFF :smile:
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  • digits
    digits Member Posts: 1,787
    dOgmaster said:

    digits said:

    Here's what I don't understand about the whole Haener situation: Petersen stresses ad nauseam that turnovers are one of, if not the, most important stats related to winning, which I 100% agree with.

    First series @ Cal, he throws a pick six. Since then, we? continually hear that Haener is an interception throwing machine in practice. So why in the fuck would Haener still be splitting reps. with 1st/2nd string? Delegate Haener to 3rd/4th string, and start giving Sirmon and Morris more invaluable reps. Develop a solid 2nd string QB by playing him in mop up duty, so you don't pigeon hole yourself.

    Throwing a pic in practice can mean a few things, as we react to the result. From a coaching standpoint its more important to know why. Was there a mis-commincation, did the receiver run the wrong route, was the ball tipped at the line/linebackers, or db’s. I prefer to focus on production as that normally is a better indicator of system knowledge and execution.

    Regarding Yankoff I understand his transfer. He was probably 5th on the depth chart, and when you have 3 squads the 4th and 5th qb’s don't get many quality snaps. It is hard to out develop the qb’s that are running the first two teams. And Morris sounds legit.

    Sirmon may be in a pickle if he falls behind Morris. Can he play TE?

    Haener threw a pick 6 in the 1st series of the Cal game, his 1st legit college action he was put in . Not a good look. And for all y'all saying he was put in a difficult position, we? were still leading @ that point, so fuck off. Petersen flinched, causing the L. That loss was on Petersen, as they all are, he's the HC. Yankoff quit, I don't give a fuck about him.
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  • dOgmaster
    dOgmaster Member Posts: 589
    If you want to hate on Haener go right ahead, but I would surprised if Peterman’s decision on who will start is based on one play from last year. As you stated it was his first legit college action.

    And I would bet that your first real ‘action’ was not what you had hoped it would be and hopefully got better.
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  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,320
    Swaye said:

    PostGameOrangeSlices said:

    Eason starts this year, leads us to another Pac 12 title. Gets drafted in the 1st round, before Herbert.

    Morris does not redshirt in 2019, beats out Haener, Sirmon, and Garbers rather easily next year. Haener transfers before the season, Sirmon transfers after the 2020 season.

    Morris starts 2020, 2021, 2022. In 2023 a RS Sam Huard starts.


    Thanks for reading!
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