I am against assault style weapons

Guns in my hands scare me more than anything. I don't know how to carry them without pointing accidentally in the wrong direction, etc so admittedly I am no expert. I never pick one up, ever, but I definitely believe and support a person's right to own guns. 99.9% are responsible gun owners and I get that.

I would like to see the massive bullets per minute rifles banned. I know that perspective bothers people but after watching the Vegas shooting, I think they have to go. The problem is, I have worked in politics and I know for fact that there are democrats who believe in taking away guns all together. I have spoken with them in the past and their agenda is real. They are lying in the weeds and waiting for their moment to start the movement. Some even tried to take over the Brady movement but were forced out because of their no-guns at all belief. Back then the politicians in charge knew that was not going to fly.

My point is this: If we ban these assault rifles, the far left is going to consider that a win and they will then have momentum to attempt to ban guns of all shapes and sizes. Politicians know this, the NRA knows this and it is why nothing is going to happen on the assault rifle side of things. Democrats can't be trusted to maintain that right.

Like I said yesterday, this is an issue of the breakdown of the nuclear family. With the assault rifle It is the damage that many bullets per minute can do in obviously mentally ill individuals hands.

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GrundleStiltzkin

How many bullets can the rifle hold compared to the "assault rifle"?
What does same capacity mean to you?
I know what the meme says.
It is correct.
Ok here's the thing. While that exact rifle technically can have a high capacity magazine. The idiots that commit mass shootings don't know that, or else one would be used by now. And I'd imagine, the vast majority of hunting rifles don't have that capability without modifications. Just like you can modify an AR with a bump stock to make it function as a fully auto rifle (although I think those sales are illegal now).
Point of order. Everything you just typed is wrong or inaccurate. Please educate yourself before arguing for things you do not fully understand. TIA

Signed: Everyone
Hondo, et al, see the wood stock Mini-14 and, dare I say, profile it as a "good" or at least less scary-bad gun. In truth, it's uses essentially the mechanism of the M-1 and visually modeled after the M-14, the two US combat rifles prior to the M-16. The A-Team kept Mini-14s in the back of the van.

I hesitate to bring that up because they'll want to ban Mini-14 too.
We also do not want them to know you can buy a 100 round drum magazine for the mini-14 and have TONS of fun! Ask me how I know this....watermelons fear me

In grade school, a kid brought one to school for his demonstration project. No big deal.

2001400ex

How many bullets can the rifle hold compared to the "assault rifle"?
What does same capacity mean to you?
I know what the meme says.
It is correct.
Ok here's the thing. While that exact rifle technically can have a high capacity magazine. The idiots that commit mass shootings don't know that, or else one would be used by now. And I'd imagine, the vast majority of hunting rifles don't have that capability without modifications. Just like you can modify an AR with a bump stock to make it function as a fully auto rifle (although I think those sales are illegal now).
Point of order. Everything you just typed is wrong or inaccurate. Please educate yourself before arguing for things you do not fully understand. TIA

Signed: Everyone
Hondo, et al, see the wood stock Mini-14 and, dare I say, profile it as a "good" or at least less scary-bad gun. In truth, it's uses essentially the mechanism of the M-1 and visually modeled after the M-14, the two US combat rifles prior to the M-16. The A-Team kept Mini-14s in the back of the van.

I hesitate to bring that up because they'll want to ban Mini-14 too.

You are actually very correct. And you actually agree with me on my point. The people who commit mass shootings generally don't know shit about guns. So they would never buy the mini 14.

UW_Doog_Bot

We haven't even discussed the fact that 3d printing is now a thing and the genie is out of the bottle. Also, fucking templates and all the grey areas they create.

Swaye

We haven't even discussed the fact that 3d printing is now a thing and the genie is out of the bottle. Also, fucking templates and all the grey areas they create.

Plastic fantastic printed guns are a very real issue that gets almost no media attention.

GrundleStiltzkin

How many bullets can the rifle hold compared to the "assault rifle"?
What does same capacity mean to you?
I know what the meme says.
It is correct.
Ok here's the thing. While that exact rifle technically can have a high capacity magazine. The idiots that commit mass shootings don't know that, or else one would be used by now. And I'd imagine, the vast majority of hunting rifles don't have that capability without modifications. Just like you can modify an AR with a bump stock to make it function as a fully auto rifle (although I think those sales are illegal now).
Point of order. Everything you just typed is wrong or inaccurate. Please educate yourself before arguing for things you do not fully understand. TIA

Signed: Everyone
Hondo, et al, see the wood stock Mini-14 and, dare I say, profile it as a "good" or at least less scary-bad gun. In truth, it's uses essentially the mechanism of the M-1 and visually modeled after the M-14, the two US combat rifles prior to the M-16. The A-Team kept Mini-14s in the back of the van.

I hesitate to bring that up because they'll want to ban Mini-14 too.
You are actually very correct. And you actually agree with me on my point. The people who commit mass shootings generally don't know shit about guns. So they would never buy the mini 14.

You don't know that, and neither do I. Anecdotally, many articles on mass shooters paint them as gun nuts.

A simpler explanation is that AR-15 modeled rifles are quite possibly the most common models in the country.

Swaye

How many bullets can the rifle hold compared to the "assault rifle"?
What does same capacity mean to you?
I know what the meme says.
It is correct.
Ok here's the thing. While that exact rifle technically can have a high capacity magazine. The idiots that commit mass shootings don't know that, or else one would be used by now. And I'd imagine, the vast majority of hunting rifles don't have that capability without modifications. Just like you can modify an AR with a bump stock to make it function as a fully auto rifle (although I think those sales are illegal now).
Point of order. Everything you just typed is wrong or inaccurate. Please educate yourself before arguing for things you do not fully understand. TIA

Signed: Everyone
Hondo, et al, see the wood stock Mini-14 and, dare I say, profile it as a "good" or at least less scary-bad gun. In truth, it's uses essentially the mechanism of the M-1 and visually modeled after the M-14, the two US combat rifles prior to the M-16. The A-Team kept Mini-14s in the back of the van.

I hesitate to bring that up because they'll want to ban Mini-14 too.
You are actually very correct. And you actually agree with me on my point. The people who commit mass shootings generally don't know shit about guns. So they would never buy the mini 14.
You don't know that, and neither do I. Anecdotally, many articles on mass shooters paint them as gun nuts.

A simpler explanation is that AR-15 modeled rifles are quite possibly the most common models in the country.

Agree. When we were kids it was a lever 30-30 or bolt 30-06, now it is without question the AR platform. Hell, I see them constantly in the woods rigged as hunting rifles in 300 BLK or AR-10s getting down to business with deer and hogs. They are everywhere, and used for everything.

RaceBannon

How many bullets can the rifle hold compared to the "assault rifle"?
What does same capacity mean to you?
I know what the meme says.
It is correct.
Ok here's the thing. While that exact rifle technically can have a high capacity magazine. The idiots that commit mass shootings don't know that, or else one would be used by now. And I'd imagine, the vast majority of hunting rifles don't have that capability without modifications. Just like you can modify an AR with a bump stock to make it function as a fully auto rifle (although I think those sales are illegal now).
Point of order. Everything you just typed is wrong or inaccurate. Please educate yourself before arguing for things you do not fully understand. TIA

Signed: Everyone
Hondo, et al, see the wood stock Mini-14 and, dare I say, profile it as a "good" or at least less scary-bad gun. In truth, it's uses essentially the mechanism of the M-1 and visually modeled after the M-14, the two US combat rifles prior to the M-16. The A-Team kept Mini-14s in the back of the van.

I hesitate to bring that up because they'll want to ban Mini-14 too.
We also do not want them to know you can buy a 100 round drum magazine for the mini-14 and have TONS of fun! Ask me how I know this....watermelons fear me
In grade school, a kid brought one to school for his demonstration project. No big deal.

Quite common really

Sledog

The left thinks it's "hard" to actually make a gun. A decently equipped machine shop could turn out a submachine gun in hours. Ask those Mooselimbs from the Khyber Pass. They'll make you just about any gun you want and they use simple hand tools. Mostly files. So what's next after that? Outlawing steel? Aluminum? Plastic? Tools? 3D printers? All gun making materials.

Smuggling guns to criminals would be easy. Much easier to smuggle than drugs. Clandestine manufacturing would be all over the place as well. Odd how the IRA has no problem getting AK's, grenades, explosives, rocket launchers and anything else they wanted into Great Britain.

The lefties want control and they openly want communism and socialism. What communist/socialist government allows it's "subjects" the ownership of arms? Their direction is clear and they are now much more open about the subjugation of our nation and way of life. I'll get lambasted for that but having communists in the presidents cabinet proves me right. Watching members of government praise Mao and others and hang posters of Che and other murderous bastards in their offices proves me right.

Proceed at your own peril.

UW_Doog_Bot

We haven't even discussed the fact that 3d printing is now a thing and the genie is out of the bottle. Also, fucking templates and all the grey areas they create.
Plastic fantastic printed guns are a very real issue that gets almost no media attention.

NM fucking plastic my guy. We are rapidly hitting consumer ready metal 3d printing and it's totally affordable to have a CNC with a tip for metal if you like. You can also still just mill something by hand with a very limited set up. None of this is rocket science. If fucking Afghanis living in the mountains with no internet can figure out how to make AK-47's you better believe that people in the US can.

Swaye

We haven't even discussed the fact that 3d printing is now a thing and the genie is out of the bottle. Also, fucking templates and all the grey areas they create.
Plastic fantastic printed guns are a very real issue that gets almost no media attention.
NM fucking plastic my guy. We are rapidly hitting consumer ready metal 3d printing and it's totally affordable to have a CNC with a tip for metal if you like. You can also still just mill something by hand with a very limited set up. None of this is rocket science. If fucking Afghanis living in the mountains with no internet can figure out how to make AK-47's you better believe that people in the US can.

The plastic shit is scary because of metal detectors. I don't want printed guns getting into school and courtrooms. That is fucking scary. Unless the defendant is a pedophile who is proven guilty. Then let the Dad in with a fucking bazooka for all I care.

UW_Doog_Bot

We haven't even discussed the fact that 3d printing is now a thing and the genie is out of the bottle. Also, fucking templates and all the grey areas they create.
Plastic fantastic printed guns are a very real issue that gets almost no media attention.
NM fucking plastic my guy. We are rapidly hitting consumer ready metal 3d printing and it's totally affordable to have a CNC with a tip for metal if you like. You can also still just mill something by hand with a very limited set up. None of this is rocket science. If fucking Afghanis living in the mountains with no internet can figure out how to make AK-47's you better believe that people in the US can.
The plastic shit is scary because of metal detectors. I don't want printed guns getting into school and courtrooms. That is fucking scary. Unless the defendant is a pedophile who is proven guilty. Then let the Dad in with a fucking bazooka for all I care.

But they are gun free zones. How can anyone bring guns in?

dhdawg

An AR-15 fires as fast as you can pull the trigger. Just like every hand gun. Assault rifles are a small fraction of the gun murders in the US. If a cop thinks he needs an AR-15 to protect himself, then so do I.

It's only part of the problem so let's not do anything.

If you think you need an AR-15 to defend yourself you have problems, so does that hypothetical cop.

And in this case your personal insecurities are literally costing people lives.

Sledog

An AR-15 fires as fast as you can pull the trigger. Just like every hand gun. Assault rifles are a small fraction of the gun murders in the US. If a cop thinks he needs an AR-15 to protect himself, then so do I.
It's only part of the problem so let's not do anything.

If you think you need an AR-15 to defend yourself you have problems, so does that hypothetical cop.

And in this case your personal insecurities are literally costing people lives.

Said the guy that wants communism.

HHusky

How many bullets can the rifle hold compared to the "assault rifle"?
What does same capacity mean to you?
I know what the meme says.
It is correct.
Ok here's the thing. While that exact rifle technically can have a high capacity magazine. The idiots that commit mass shootings don't know that, or else one would be used by now. And I'd imagine, the vast majority of hunting rifles don't have that capability without modifications. Just like you can modify an AR with a bump stock to make it function as a fully auto rifle (although I think those sales are illegal now).
Point of order. Everything you just typed is wrong or inaccurate. Please educate yourself before arguing for things you do not fully understand. TIA

Signed: Everyone
Hondo, et al, see the wood stock Mini-14 and, dare I say, profile it as a "good" or at least less scary-bad gun. In truth, it's uses essentially the mechanism of the M-1 and visually modeled after the M-14, the two US combat rifles prior to the M-16. The A-Team kept Mini-14s in the back of the van.

I hesitate to bring that up because they'll want to ban Mini-14 too.
We also do not want them to know you can buy a 100 round drum magazine for the mini-14 and have TONS of fun! Ask me how I know this....watermelons fear me
In grade school, a kid brought one to school for his demonstration project. No big deal.
Quite common really

For hunting Artesians?

Sledog

An AR-15 fires as fast as you can pull the trigger. Just like every hand gun. Assault rifles are a small fraction of the gun murders in the US. If a cop thinks he needs an AR-15 to protect himself, then so do I.
It's only part of the problem so let's not do anything.

If you think you need an AR-15 to defend yourself you have problems, so does that hypothetical cop.

And in this case your personal insecurities are literally costing people lives.

Pistols are reactionary weapons. They are carried because it can be with you and keeps your hands free. Long guns such as rifles and shotguns are for fighting. That's why the military only issues certain members pistols. And then the pistol is something to fight the unexpected with temporarily until you can get to a long gun.

If you know your going to a fight you bring a long gun. Police are often called to known circumstances and rifles are very appropriate. Shotguns too. It's like golf different clubs for differing circumstances. At my department we carried both in a dual rack in the car.

dhdawg

So you need a long gun if you are going to a fight that presumably involves other guns?

What exactly does that have to do with civilian ownership?

Sledog

So you need a long gun if you are going to a fight that presumably involves other guns?

What exactly does that have to do with civilian ownership?

Dumb much?

People get robbed. Home invasion much?

https://www.tacticalshit.com/texas-man-with-ak-fights-off-5-home-invaders-killing-3/

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/nation-world/national/article212474004.html

https://www.newsweek.com/florida-woman-nicknamed-trigger-fends-robbers-armed-ak-47-police-say-926713

Swaye

An AR-15 fires as fast as you can pull the trigger. Just like every hand gun. Assault rifles are a small fraction of the gun murders in the US. If a cop thinks he needs an AR-15 to protect himself, then so do I.
It's only part of the problem so let's not do anything.

If you think you need an AR-15 to defend yourself you have problems, so does that hypothetical cop.

And in this case your personal insecurities are literally costing people lives.

So, you believe in banning AR-15s then?

oregonblitzkrieg

Piss off cuck. If you want to live in a country where guns are banned, move to Europe and get yourself a knife.

Pitchfork51

Piss off cuck. If you want to live in a country where guns are banned, move to Europe and get yourself a knife.

Obk spitting fire