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I am against assault style weapons

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  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,499 Standard Supporter
    Swaye said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:


    How many bullets can the rifle hold compared to the "assault rifle"?
    What does same capacity mean to you?
    I know what the meme says.
    It is correct.
    Ok here's the thing. While that exact rifle technically can have a high capacity magazine. The idiots that commit mass shootings don't know that, or else one would be used by now. And I'd imagine, the vast majority of hunting rifles don't have that capability without modifications. Just like you can modify an AR with a bump stock to make it function as a fully auto rifle (although I think those sales are illegal now).
    Point of order. Everything you just typed is wrong or inaccurate. Please educate yourself before arguing for things you do not fully understand. TIA

    Signed: Everyone
    Hondo, et al, see the wood stock Mini-14 and, dare I say, profile it as a "good" or at least less scary-bad gun. In truth, it's uses essentially the mechanism of the M-1 and visually modeled after the M-14, the two US combat rifles prior to the M-16. The A-Team kept Mini-14s in the back of the van.

    I hesitate to bring that up because they'll want to ban Mini-14 too.
    We also do not want them to know you can buy a 100 round drum magazine for the mini-14 and have TONS of fun! Ask me how I know this....watermelons fear me
    In grade school, a kid brought one to school for his demonstration project. No big deal.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:


    How many bullets can the rifle hold compared to the "assault rifle"?
    What does same capacity mean to you?
    I know what the meme says.
    It is correct.
    Ok here's the thing. While that exact rifle technically can have a high capacity magazine. The idiots that commit mass shootings don't know that, or else one would be used by now. And I'd imagine, the vast majority of hunting rifles don't have that capability without modifications. Just like you can modify an AR with a bump stock to make it function as a fully auto rifle (although I think those sales are illegal now).
    Point of order. Everything you just typed is wrong or inaccurate. Please educate yourself before arguing for things you do not fully understand. TIA

    Signed: Everyone
    Hondo, et al, see the wood stock Mini-14 and, dare I say, profile it as a "good" or at least less scary-bad gun. In truth, it's uses essentially the mechanism of the M-1 and visually modeled after the M-14, the two US combat rifles prior to the M-16. The A-Team kept Mini-14s in the back of the van.

    I hesitate to bring that up because they'll want to ban Mini-14 too.
    You are actually very correct. And you actually agree with me on my point. The people who commit mass shootings generally don't know shit about guns. So they would never buy the mini 14.
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,789 Swaye's Wigwam
    We haven't even discussed the fact that 3d printing is now a thing and the genie is out of the bottle. Also, fucking templates and all the grey areas they create.
  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,491 Founders Club

    We haven't even discussed the fact that 3d printing is now a thing and the genie is out of the bottle. Also, fucking templates and all the grey areas they create.

    Plastic fantastic printed guns are a very real issue that gets almost no media attention.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,499 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:


    How many bullets can the rifle hold compared to the "assault rifle"?
    What does same capacity mean to you?
    I know what the meme says.
    It is correct.
    Ok here's the thing. While that exact rifle technically can have a high capacity magazine. The idiots that commit mass shootings don't know that, or else one would be used by now. And I'd imagine, the vast majority of hunting rifles don't have that capability without modifications. Just like you can modify an AR with a bump stock to make it function as a fully auto rifle (although I think those sales are illegal now).
    Point of order. Everything you just typed is wrong or inaccurate. Please educate yourself before arguing for things you do not fully understand. TIA

    Signed: Everyone
    Hondo, et al, see the wood stock Mini-14 and, dare I say, profile it as a "good" or at least less scary-bad gun. In truth, it's uses essentially the mechanism of the M-1 and visually modeled after the M-14, the two US combat rifles prior to the M-16. The A-Team kept Mini-14s in the back of the van.

    I hesitate to bring that up because they'll want to ban Mini-14 too.
    You are actually very correct. And you actually agree with me on my point. The people who commit mass shootings generally don't know shit about guns. So they would never buy the mini 14.
    You don't know that, and neither do I. Anecdotally, many articles on mass shooters paint them as gun nuts.

    A simpler explanation is that AR-15 modeled rifles are quite possibly the most common models in the country.
  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,491 Founders Club

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:


    How many bullets can the rifle hold compared to the "assault rifle"?
    What does same capacity mean to you?
    I know what the meme says.
    It is correct.
    Ok here's the thing. While that exact rifle technically can have a high capacity magazine. The idiots that commit mass shootings don't know that, or else one would be used by now. And I'd imagine, the vast majority of hunting rifles don't have that capability without modifications. Just like you can modify an AR with a bump stock to make it function as a fully auto rifle (although I think those sales are illegal now).
    Point of order. Everything you just typed is wrong or inaccurate. Please educate yourself before arguing for things you do not fully understand. TIA

    Signed: Everyone
    Hondo, et al, see the wood stock Mini-14 and, dare I say, profile it as a "good" or at least less scary-bad gun. In truth, it's uses essentially the mechanism of the M-1 and visually modeled after the M-14, the two US combat rifles prior to the M-16. The A-Team kept Mini-14s in the back of the van.

    I hesitate to bring that up because they'll want to ban Mini-14 too.
    You are actually very correct. And you actually agree with me on my point. The people who commit mass shootings generally don't know shit about guns. So they would never buy the mini 14.
    You don't know that, and neither do I. Anecdotally, many articles on mass shooters paint them as gun nuts.

    A simpler explanation is that AR-15 modeled rifles are quite possibly the most common models in the country.
    Agree. When we were kids it was a lever 30-30 or bolt 30-06, now it is without question the AR platform. Hell, I see them constantly in the woods rigged as hunting rifles in 300 BLK or AR-10s getting down to business with deer and hogs. They are everywhere, and used for everything.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,848 Founders Club

    Swaye said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:


    How many bullets can the rifle hold compared to the "assault rifle"?
    What does same capacity mean to you?
    I know what the meme says.
    It is correct.
    Ok here's the thing. While that exact rifle technically can have a high capacity magazine. The idiots that commit mass shootings don't know that, or else one would be used by now. And I'd imagine, the vast majority of hunting rifles don't have that capability without modifications. Just like you can modify an AR with a bump stock to make it function as a fully auto rifle (although I think those sales are illegal now).
    Point of order. Everything you just typed is wrong or inaccurate. Please educate yourself before arguing for things you do not fully understand. TIA

    Signed: Everyone
    Hondo, et al, see the wood stock Mini-14 and, dare I say, profile it as a "good" or at least less scary-bad gun. In truth, it's uses essentially the mechanism of the M-1 and visually modeled after the M-14, the two US combat rifles prior to the M-16. The A-Team kept Mini-14s in the back of the van.

    I hesitate to bring that up because they'll want to ban Mini-14 too.
    We also do not want them to know you can buy a 100 round drum magazine for the mini-14 and have TONS of fun! Ask me how I know this....watermelons fear me
    In grade school, a kid brought one to school for his demonstration project. No big deal.
    Quite common really
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,862 Standard Supporter
    edited August 2019
    The left thinks it's "hard" to actually make a gun. A decently equipped machine shop could turn out a submachine gun in hours. Ask those Mooselimbs from the Khyber Pass. They'll make you just about any gun you want and they use simple hand tools. Mostly files. So what's next after that? Outlawing steel? Aluminum? Plastic? Tools? 3D printers? All gun making materials.

    Smuggling guns to criminals would be easy. Much easier to smuggle than drugs. Clandestine manufacturing would be all over the place as well. Odd how the IRA has no problem getting AK's, grenades, explosives, rocket launchers and anything else they wanted into Great Britain.

    The lefties want control and they openly want communism and socialism. What communist/socialist government allows it's "subjects" the ownership of arms? Their direction is clear and they are now much more open about the subjugation of our nation and way of life. I'll get lambasted for that but having communists in the presidents cabinet proves me right. Watching members of government praise Mao and others and hang posters of Che and other murderous bastards in their offices proves me right.

    Proceed at your own peril.
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,789 Swaye's Wigwam
    Swaye said:

    We haven't even discussed the fact that 3d printing is now a thing and the genie is out of the bottle. Also, fucking templates and all the grey areas they create.

    Plastic fantastic printed guns are a very real issue that gets almost no media attention.
    NM fucking plastic my guy. We are rapidly hitting consumer ready metal 3d printing and it's totally affordable to have a CNC with a tip for metal if you like. You can also still just mill something by hand with a very limited set up. None of this is rocket science. If fucking Afghanis living in the mountains with no internet can figure out how to make AK-47's you better believe that people in the US can.
  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,491 Founders Club

    Swaye said:

    We haven't even discussed the fact that 3d printing is now a thing and the genie is out of the bottle. Also, fucking templates and all the grey areas they create.

    Plastic fantastic printed guns are a very real issue that gets almost no media attention.
    NM fucking plastic my guy. We are rapidly hitting consumer ready metal 3d printing and it's totally affordable to have a CNC with a tip for metal if you like. You can also still just mill something by hand with a very limited set up. None of this is rocket science. If fucking Afghanis living in the mountains with no internet can figure out how to make AK-47's you better believe that people in the US can.
    The plastic shit is scary because of metal detectors. I don't want printed guns getting into school and courtrooms. That is fucking scary. Unless the defendant is a pedophile who is proven guilty. Then let the Dad in with a fucking bazooka for all I care.
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,789 Swaye's Wigwam
    Swaye said:

    Swaye said:

    We haven't even discussed the fact that 3d printing is now a thing and the genie is out of the bottle. Also, fucking templates and all the grey areas they create.

    Plastic fantastic printed guns are a very real issue that gets almost no media attention.
    NM fucking plastic my guy. We are rapidly hitting consumer ready metal 3d printing and it's totally affordable to have a CNC with a tip for metal if you like. You can also still just mill something by hand with a very limited set up. None of this is rocket science. If fucking Afghanis living in the mountains with no internet can figure out how to make AK-47's you better believe that people in the US can.
    The plastic shit is scary because of metal detectors. I don't want printed guns getting into school and courtrooms. That is fucking scary. Unless the defendant is a pedophile who is proven guilty. Then let the Dad in with a fucking bazooka for all I care.
    But they are gun free zones. How can anyone bring guns in?
  • dhdawgdhdawg Member Posts: 13,326

    An AR-15 fires as fast as you can pull the trigger. Just like every hand gun. Assault rifles are a small fraction of the gun murders in the US. If a cop thinks he needs an AR-15 to protect himself, then so do I.

    It's only part of the problem so let's not do anything.

    If you think you need an AR-15 to defend yourself you have problems, so does that hypothetical cop.

    And in this case your personal insecurities are literally costing people lives.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,862 Standard Supporter
    dhdawg said:

    An AR-15 fires as fast as you can pull the trigger. Just like every hand gun. Assault rifles are a small fraction of the gun murders in the US. If a cop thinks he needs an AR-15 to protect himself, then so do I.

    It's only part of the problem so let's not do anything.

    If you think you need an AR-15 to defend yourself you have problems, so does that hypothetical cop.

    And in this case your personal insecurities are literally costing people lives.
    Said the guy that wants communism.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,819

    Swaye said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:


    How many bullets can the rifle hold compared to the "assault rifle"?
    What does same capacity mean to you?
    I know what the meme says.
    It is correct.
    Ok here's the thing. While that exact rifle technically can have a high capacity magazine. The idiots that commit mass shootings don't know that, or else one would be used by now. And I'd imagine, the vast majority of hunting rifles don't have that capability without modifications. Just like you can modify an AR with a bump stock to make it function as a fully auto rifle (although I think those sales are illegal now).
    Point of order. Everything you just typed is wrong or inaccurate. Please educate yourself before arguing for things you do not fully understand. TIA

    Signed: Everyone
    Hondo, et al, see the wood stock Mini-14 and, dare I say, profile it as a "good" or at least less scary-bad gun. In truth, it's uses essentially the mechanism of the M-1 and visually modeled after the M-14, the two US combat rifles prior to the M-16. The A-Team kept Mini-14s in the back of the van.

    I hesitate to bring that up because they'll want to ban Mini-14 too.
    We also do not want them to know you can buy a 100 round drum magazine for the mini-14 and have TONS of fun! Ask me how I know this....watermelons fear me
    In grade school, a kid brought one to school for his demonstration project. No big deal.
    Quite common really
    For hunting Artesians?
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,862 Standard Supporter
    dhdawg said:

    An AR-15 fires as fast as you can pull the trigger. Just like every hand gun. Assault rifles are a small fraction of the gun murders in the US. If a cop thinks he needs an AR-15 to protect himself, then so do I.

    It's only part of the problem so let's not do anything.

    If you think you need an AR-15 to defend yourself you have problems, so does that hypothetical cop.

    And in this case your personal insecurities are literally costing people lives.
    Pistols are reactionary weapons. They are carried because it can be with you and keeps your hands free. Long guns such as rifles and shotguns are for fighting. That's why the military only issues certain members pistols. And then the pistol is something to fight the unexpected with temporarily until you can get to a long gun.

    If you know your going to a fight you bring a long gun. Police are often called to known circumstances and rifles are very appropriate. Shotguns too. It's like golf different clubs for differing circumstances. At my department we carried both in a dual rack in the car.
  • dhdawgdhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    So you need a long gun if you are going to a fight that presumably involves other guns?

    What exactly does that have to do with civilian ownership?
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,862 Standard Supporter
    dhdawg said:

    So you need a long gun if you are going to a fight that presumably involves other guns?

    What exactly does that have to do with civilian ownership?

    Dumb much?

    People get robbed. Home invasion much?

    https://www.tacticalshit.com/texas-man-with-ak-fights-off-5-home-invaders-killing-3/

    https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/nation-world/national/article212474004.html

    https://www.newsweek.com/florida-woman-nicknamed-trigger-fends-robbers-armed-ak-47-police-say-926713
  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,491 Founders Club
    dhdawg said:

    An AR-15 fires as fast as you can pull the trigger. Just like every hand gun. Assault rifles are a small fraction of the gun murders in the US. If a cop thinks he needs an AR-15 to protect himself, then so do I.

    It's only part of the problem so let's not do anything.

    If you think you need an AR-15 to defend yourself you have problems, so does that hypothetical cop.

    And in this case your personal insecurities are literally costing people lives.
    So, you believe in banning AR-15s then?
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,950

    Piss off cuck. If you want to live in a country where guns are banned, move to Europe and get yourself a knife.

    Obk spitting fire
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