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  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,180 Founders Club
    Swaye said:

    Swaye said:

    We haven't even discussed the fact that 3d printing is now a thing and the genie is out of the bottle. Also, fucking templates and all the grey areas they create.

    Plastic fantastic printed guns are a very real issue that gets almost no media attention.
    NM fucking plastic my guy. We are rapidly hitting consumer ready metal 3d printing and it's totally affordable to have a CNC with a tip for metal if you like. You can also still just mill something by hand with a very limited set up. None of this is rocket science. If fucking Afghanis living in the mountains with no internet can figure out how to make AK-47's you better believe that people in the US can.
    The plastic shit is scary because of metal detectors. I don't want printed guns getting into school and courtrooms. That is fucking scary. Unless the defendant is a pedophile who is proven guilty. Then let the Dad in with a fucking bazooka for all I care.
    But they are gun free zones. How can anyone bring guns in?
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326

    An AR-15 fires as fast as you can pull the trigger. Just like every hand gun. Assault rifles are a small fraction of the gun murders in the US. If a cop thinks he needs an AR-15 to protect himself, then so do I.

    It's only part of the problem so let's not do anything.

    If you think you need an AR-15 to defend yourself you have problems, so does that hypothetical cop.

    And in this case your personal insecurities are literally costing people lives.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,826 Standard Supporter
    dhdawg said:

    An AR-15 fires as fast as you can pull the trigger. Just like every hand gun. Assault rifles are a small fraction of the gun murders in the US. If a cop thinks he needs an AR-15 to protect himself, then so do I.

    It's only part of the problem so let's not do anything.

    If you think you need an AR-15 to defend yourself you have problems, so does that hypothetical cop.

    And in this case your personal insecurities are literally costing people lives.
    Said the guy that wants communism.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,963

    Swaye said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:


    How many bullets can the rifle hold compared to the "assault rifle"?
    What does same capacity mean to you?
    I know what the meme says.
    It is correct.
    Ok here's the thing. While that exact rifle technically can have a high capacity magazine. The idiots that commit mass shootings don't know that, or else one would be used by now. And I'd imagine, the vast majority of hunting rifles don't have that capability without modifications. Just like you can modify an AR with a bump stock to make it function as a fully auto rifle (although I think those sales are illegal now).
    Point of order. Everything you just typed is wrong or inaccurate. Please educate yourself before arguing for things you do not fully understand. TIA

    Signed: Everyone
    Hondo, et al, see the wood stock Mini-14 and, dare I say, profile it as a "good" or at least less scary-bad gun. In truth, it's uses essentially the mechanism of the M-1 and visually modeled after the M-14, the two US combat rifles prior to the M-16. The A-Team kept Mini-14s in the back of the van.

    I hesitate to bring that up because they'll want to ban Mini-14 too.
    We also do not want them to know you can buy a 100 round drum magazine for the mini-14 and have TONS of fun! Ask me how I know this....watermelons fear me
    In grade school, a kid brought one to school for his demonstration project. No big deal.
    Quite common really
    For hunting Artesians?
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,826 Standard Supporter
    dhdawg said:

    An AR-15 fires as fast as you can pull the trigger. Just like every hand gun. Assault rifles are a small fraction of the gun murders in the US. If a cop thinks he needs an AR-15 to protect himself, then so do I.

    It's only part of the problem so let's not do anything.

    If you think you need an AR-15 to defend yourself you have problems, so does that hypothetical cop.

    And in this case your personal insecurities are literally costing people lives.
    Pistols are reactionary weapons. They are carried because it can be with you and keeps your hands free. Long guns such as rifles and shotguns are for fighting. That's why the military only issues certain members pistols. And then the pistol is something to fight the unexpected with temporarily until you can get to a long gun.

    If you know your going to a fight you bring a long gun. Police are often called to known circumstances and rifles are very appropriate. Shotguns too. It's like golf different clubs for differing circumstances. At my department we carried both in a dual rack in the car.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    So you need a long gun if you are going to a fight that presumably involves other guns?

    What exactly does that have to do with civilian ownership?
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,826 Standard Supporter
    dhdawg said:

    So you need a long gun if you are going to a fight that presumably involves other guns?

    What exactly does that have to do with civilian ownership?

    Dumb much?

    People get robbed. Home invasion much?

    https://www.tacticalshit.com/texas-man-with-ak-fights-off-5-home-invaders-killing-3/

    https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/nation-world/national/article212474004.html

    https://www.newsweek.com/florida-woman-nicknamed-trigger-fends-robbers-armed-ak-47-police-say-926713
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    dhdawg said:

    An AR-15 fires as fast as you can pull the trigger. Just like every hand gun. Assault rifles are a small fraction of the gun murders in the US. If a cop thinks he needs an AR-15 to protect himself, then so do I.

    It's only part of the problem so let's not do anything.

    If you think you need an AR-15 to defend yourself you have problems, so does that hypothetical cop.

    And in this case your personal insecurities are literally costing people lives.
    So, you believe in banning AR-15s then?
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662

    Piss off cuck. If you want to live in a country where guns are banned, move to Europe and get yourself a knife.

    Obk spitting fire
  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,041 Standard Supporter
    edited August 2019
    Sledog said:

    Guns in my hands scare me more than anything. I don't know how to carry them without pointing accidentally in the wrong direction, etc so admittedly I am no expert. I never pick one up, ever, but I definitely believe and support a person's right to own guns. 99.9% are responsible gun owners and I get that.

    I would like to see the massive bullets per minute rifles banned. I know that perspective bothers people but after watching the Vegas shooting, I think they have to go. The problem is, I have worked in politics and I know for fact that there are democrats who believe in taking away guns all together. I have spoken with them in the past and their agenda is real. They are lying in the weeds and waiting for their moment to start the movement. Some even tried to take over the Brady movement but were forced out because of their no-guns at all belief. Back then the politicians in charge knew that was not going to fly.

    My point is this: If we ban these assault rifles, the far left is going to consider that a win and they will then have momentum to attempt to ban guns of all shapes and sizes. Politicians know this, the NRA knows this and it is why nothing is going to happen on the assault rifle side of things. Democrats can't be trusted to maintain that right.

    Like I said yesterday, this is an issue of the breakdown of the nuclear family. With the assault rifle It is the damage that many bullets per minute can do in obviously mentally ill individuals hands.

    I like most of your post regarding the evil democrats are but "bullets per minute" is silly.
    Like I said, what I know about guns you could put in a thimble. But the guy in Vegas sure shot a lot of rounds off quickly and from a decent distance. Just saying.

    There has been a lot of information shared in this thread that I had no idea about. It was a good exercise. As for liking some threads, I simply point out hypocrisy by democrats. The blatant lies, violence and hypocrisy are what motivate me to post on this site. I guarantee none of us are going to agree on all issues but I know for sure there are many elected dem officials who would like nothing better than to take away all guns and that cannot be allowed to happen
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Sledog said:

    Guns in my hands scare me more than anything. I don't know how to carry them without pointing accidentally in the wrong direction, etc so admittedly I am no expert. I never pick one up, ever, but I definitely believe and support a person's right to own guns. 99.9% are responsible gun owners and I get that.

    I would like to see the massive bullets per minute rifles banned. I know that perspective bothers people but after watching the Vegas shooting, I think they have to go. The problem is, I have worked in politics and I know for fact that there are democrats who believe in taking away guns all together. I have spoken with them in the past and their agenda is real. They are lying in the weeds and waiting for their moment to start the movement. Some even tried to take over the Brady movement but were forced out because of their no-guns at all belief. Back then the politicians in charge knew that was not going to fly.

    My point is this: If we ban these assault rifles, the far left is going to consider that a win and they will then have momentum to attempt to ban guns of all shapes and sizes. Politicians know this, the NRA knows this and it is why nothing is going to happen on the assault rifle side of things. Democrats can't be trusted to maintain that right.

    Like I said yesterday, this is an issue of the breakdown of the nuclear family. With the assault rifle It is the damage that many bullets per minute can do in obviously mentally ill individuals hands.

    I like most of your post regarding the evil democrats are but "bullets per minute" is silly.
    Like I said, what I know about guns you could put in a thimble. But the guy in Vegas sure shot a lot of rounds off quickly and from a decent distance. Just saying.

    There has been a lot of information shared in this thread that I had no idea about. It was a good exercise. As for liking some threads, I simply point out hypocrisy by democrats. The blatant lies, violence and hypocrisy are what motivate me to post on this site. I guarantee none of us are going to agree on all issues but I know for sure there are many elected dem officials who would like nothing better than to take away all guns and that cannot be allowed to happen
    Your motivations are weird. And you surely are blind to your own side. Other than that, nice rant.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited August 2019
    It isn't just the so called left that wants to ban guns. It's the so called right also. Republicans and Democrats are in bed together on this. It's a republican, Lindsey Graham, who is pushing red flag laws nationally, and he has the support of Donald Trump and Ted Cruz.

    THEY ARE ALL THE SAME. THEY PLAY FOR THE SAME TEAM, AND YOU'RE NOT ON THAT TEAM.

    If we ever get to a point where we can acknowledge this fact, we the people can move together to put this regime in check, and possibly remove it before America becomes a society with laws that Nazi Germany and Communist Russia would have been proud of.
  • WilburHooksHands
    WilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,804
    OBK’s relationship with Trump is a mirror image of his relationship with Cristobal, fwiw.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,826 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Guns in my hands scare me more than anything. I don't know how to carry them without pointing accidentally in the wrong direction, etc so admittedly I am no expert. I never pick one up, ever, but I definitely believe and support a person's right to own guns. 99.9% are responsible gun owners and I get that.

    I would like to see the massive bullets per minute rifles banned. I know that perspective bothers people but after watching the Vegas shooting, I think they have to go. The problem is, I have worked in politics and I know for fact that there are democrats who believe in taking away guns all together. I have spoken with them in the past and their agenda is real. They are lying in the weeds and waiting for their moment to start the movement. Some even tried to take over the Brady movement but were forced out because of their no-guns at all belief. Back then the politicians in charge knew that was not going to fly.

    My point is this: If we ban these assault rifles, the far left is going to consider that a win and they will then have momentum to attempt to ban guns of all shapes and sizes. Politicians know this, the NRA knows this and it is why nothing is going to happen on the assault rifle side of things. Democrats can't be trusted to maintain that right.

    Like I said yesterday, this is an issue of the breakdown of the nuclear family. With the assault rifle It is the damage that many bullets per minute can do in obviously mentally ill individuals hands.

    I like most of your post regarding the evil democrats are but "bullets per minute" is silly.
    Like I said, what I know about guns you could put in a thimble. But the guy in Vegas sure shot a lot of rounds off quickly and from a decent distance. Just saying.

    There has been a lot of information shared in this thread that I had no idea about. It was a good exercise. As for liking some threads, I simply point out hypocrisy by democrats. The blatant lies, violence and hypocrisy are what motivate me to post on this site. I guarantee none of us are going to agree on all issues but I know for sure there are many elected dem officials who would like nothing better than to take away all guns and that cannot be allowed to happen
    Your motivations are weird. And you surely are blind to your own side. Other than that, nice rant.
    Not blind at all.

    Not glad you hate our country.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,084 Founders Club
    The GOP has long been spineless but Trump seems to be wavering on his great desire to be loved (narcissistic personality) and his desire to never back down from his enemies (sociopathic personality)

    He does better when he just is Trump and lets the haters hate

  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Guns in my hands scare me more than anything. I don't know how to carry them without pointing accidentally in the wrong direction, etc so admittedly I am no expert. I never pick one up, ever, but I definitely believe and support a person's right to own guns. 99.9% are responsible gun owners and I get that.

    I would like to see the massive bullets per minute rifles banned. I know that perspective bothers people but after watching the Vegas shooting, I think they have to go. The problem is, I have worked in politics and I know for fact that there are democrats who believe in taking away guns all together. I have spoken with them in the past and their agenda is real. They are lying in the weeds and waiting for their moment to start the movement. Some even tried to take over the Brady movement but were forced out because of their no-guns at all belief. Back then the politicians in charge knew that was not going to fly.

    My point is this: If we ban these assault rifles, the far left is going to consider that a win and they will then have momentum to attempt to ban guns of all shapes and sizes. Politicians know this, the NRA knows this and it is why nothing is going to happen on the assault rifle side of things. Democrats can't be trusted to maintain that right.

    Like I said yesterday, this is an issue of the breakdown of the nuclear family. With the assault rifle It is the damage that many bullets per minute can do in obviously mentally ill individuals hands.

    I like most of your post regarding the evil democrats are but "bullets per minute" is silly.
    Like I said, what I know about guns you could put in a thimble. But the guy in Vegas sure shot a lot of rounds off quickly and from a decent distance. Just saying.

    There has been a lot of information shared in this thread that I had no idea about. It was a good exercise. As for liking some threads, I simply point out hypocrisy by democrats. The blatant lies, violence and hypocrisy are what motivate me to post on this site. I guarantee none of us are going to agree on all issues but I know for sure there are many elected dem officials who would like nothing better than to take away all guns and that cannot be allowed to happen
    Your motivations are weird. And you surely are blind to your own side. Other than that, nice rant.
    Not blind at all.

    Not glad you hate our country.
    Just like Trump. Anyone who disagrees with you must hate our country. Idiot
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    The GOP has long been spineless but Trump seems to be wavering on his great desire to be loved (narcissistic personality) and his desire to never back down from his enemies (sociopathic personality)

    He does better when he just is Trump and lets the haters hate


    Trump also likes to win. Maybe he's realize that a safer country is winning and doing nothing isn't achieving that goal.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,084 Founders Club
    Safer country

    Sure
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,084 Founders Club
    Wall = safer country

    Stop illegals = safer country

    Jihadi watch = safer country

    Which party is against all this?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Wall = Waste of money

    Stop illegals = Most Democrats are for

    Jihadi watch = Not all Muslims want to kill you race

    Which party is against all this?

  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited August 2019

    Wall = safer country

    Stop illegals = safer country

    Jihadi watch = safer country

    Which party is against all this?

    Abundance
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,084 Founders Club
    Hondo doesn't really care

    Just another partisan shill
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,826 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Guns in my hands scare me more than anything. I don't know how to carry them without pointing accidentally in the wrong direction, etc so admittedly I am no expert. I never pick one up, ever, but I definitely believe and support a person's right to own guns. 99.9% are responsible gun owners and I get that.

    I would like to see the massive bullets per minute rifles banned. I know that perspective bothers people but after watching the Vegas shooting, I think they have to go. The problem is, I have worked in politics and I know for fact that there are democrats who believe in taking away guns all together. I have spoken with them in the past and their agenda is real. They are lying in the weeds and waiting for their moment to start the movement. Some even tried to take over the Brady movement but were forced out because of their no-guns at all belief. Back then the politicians in charge knew that was not going to fly.

    My point is this: If we ban these assault rifles, the far left is going to consider that a win and they will then have momentum to attempt to ban guns of all shapes and sizes. Politicians know this, the NRA knows this and it is why nothing is going to happen on the assault rifle side of things. Democrats can't be trusted to maintain that right.

    Like I said yesterday, this is an issue of the breakdown of the nuclear family. With the assault rifle It is the damage that many bullets per minute can do in obviously mentally ill individuals hands.

    I like most of your post regarding the evil democrats are but "bullets per minute" is silly.
    Like I said, what I know about guns you could put in a thimble. But the guy in Vegas sure shot a lot of rounds off quickly and from a decent distance. Just saying.

    There has been a lot of information shared in this thread that I had no idea about. It was a good exercise. As for liking some threads, I simply point out hypocrisy by democrats. The blatant lies, violence and hypocrisy are what motivate me to post on this site. I guarantee none of us are going to agree on all issues but I know for sure there are many elected dem officials who would like nothing better than to take away all guns and that cannot be allowed to happen
    Your motivations are weird. And you surely are blind to your own side. Other than that, nice rant.
    Not blind at all.

    Not glad you hate our country.
    Just like Trump. Anyone who disagrees with you must hate our country. Idiot
    You're a lying, shit bag, socialist turd. HTH
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Guns in my hands scare me more than anything. I don't know how to carry them without pointing accidentally in the wrong direction, etc so admittedly I am no expert. I never pick one up, ever, but I definitely believe and support a person's right to own guns. 99.9% are responsible gun owners and I get that.

    I would like to see the massive bullets per minute rifles banned. I know that perspective bothers people but after watching the Vegas shooting, I think they have to go. The problem is, I have worked in politics and I know for fact that there are democrats who believe in taking away guns all together. I have spoken with them in the past and their agenda is real. They are lying in the weeds and waiting for their moment to start the movement. Some even tried to take over the Brady movement but were forced out because of their no-guns at all belief. Back then the politicians in charge knew that was not going to fly.

    My point is this: If we ban these assault rifles, the far left is going to consider that a win and they will then have momentum to attempt to ban guns of all shapes and sizes. Politicians know this, the NRA knows this and it is why nothing is going to happen on the assault rifle side of things. Democrats can't be trusted to maintain that right.

    Like I said yesterday, this is an issue of the breakdown of the nuclear family. With the assault rifle It is the damage that many bullets per minute can do in obviously mentally ill individuals hands.

    I like most of your post regarding the evil democrats are but "bullets per minute" is silly.
    Like I said, what I know about guns you could put in a thimble. But the guy in Vegas sure shot a lot of rounds off quickly and from a decent distance. Just saying.

    There has been a lot of information shared in this thread that I had no idea about. It was a good exercise. As for liking some threads, I simply point out hypocrisy by democrats. The blatant lies, violence and hypocrisy are what motivate me to post on this site. I guarantee none of us are going to agree on all issues but I know for sure there are many elected dem officials who would like nothing better than to take away all guns and that cannot be allowed to happen
    Your motivations are weird. And you surely are blind to your own side. Other than that, nice rant.
    Not blind at all.

    Not glad you hate our country.
    Just like Trump. Anyone who disagrees with you must hate our country. Idiot
    You're a lying, shit bag, socialist turd. HTH
    Be careful. I'll report your rage and hate to Trump so he can take your guns.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,826 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Guns in my hands scare me more than anything. I don't know how to carry them without pointing accidentally in the wrong direction, etc so admittedly I am no expert. I never pick one up, ever, but I definitely believe and support a person's right to own guns. 99.9% are responsible gun owners and I get that.

    I would like to see the massive bullets per minute rifles banned. I know that perspective bothers people but after watching the Vegas shooting, I think they have to go. The problem is, I have worked in politics and I know for fact that there are democrats who believe in taking away guns all together. I have spoken with them in the past and their agenda is real. They are lying in the weeds and waiting for their moment to start the movement. Some even tried to take over the Brady movement but were forced out because of their no-guns at all belief. Back then the politicians in charge knew that was not going to fly.

    My point is this: If we ban these assault rifles, the far left is going to consider that a win and they will then have momentum to attempt to ban guns of all shapes and sizes. Politicians know this, the NRA knows this and it is why nothing is going to happen on the assault rifle side of things. Democrats can't be trusted to maintain that right.

    Like I said yesterday, this is an issue of the breakdown of the nuclear family. With the assault rifle It is the damage that many bullets per minute can do in obviously mentally ill individuals hands.

    I like most of your post regarding the evil democrats are but "bullets per minute" is silly.
    Like I said, what I know about guns you could put in a thimble. But the guy in Vegas sure shot a lot of rounds off quickly and from a decent distance. Just saying.

    There has been a lot of information shared in this thread that I had no idea about. It was a good exercise. As for liking some threads, I simply point out hypocrisy by democrats. The blatant lies, violence and hypocrisy are what motivate me to post on this site. I guarantee none of us are going to agree on all issues but I know for sure there are many elected dem officials who would like nothing better than to take away all guns and that cannot be allowed to happen
    Your motivations are weird. And you surely are blind to your own side. Other than that, nice rant.
    Not blind at all.

    Not glad you hate our country.
    Just like Trump. Anyone who disagrees with you must hate our country. Idiot
    You're a lying, shit bag, socialist turd. HTH
    Be careful. I'll report your rage and hate to Trump so he can take your guns.
    Rage? Simple truths. Painful I'm sure even for one so low.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Guns in my hands scare me more than anything. I don't know how to carry them without pointing accidentally in the wrong direction, etc so admittedly I am no expert. I never pick one up, ever, but I definitely believe and support a person's right to own guns. 99.9% are responsible gun owners and I get that.

    I would like to see the massive bullets per minute rifles banned. I know that perspective bothers people but after watching the Vegas shooting, I think they have to go. The problem is, I have worked in politics and I know for fact that there are democrats who believe in taking away guns all together. I have spoken with them in the past and their agenda is real. They are lying in the weeds and waiting for their moment to start the movement. Some even tried to take over the Brady movement but were forced out because of their no-guns at all belief. Back then the politicians in charge knew that was not going to fly.

    My point is this: If we ban these assault rifles, the far left is going to consider that a win and they will then have momentum to attempt to ban guns of all shapes and sizes. Politicians know this, the NRA knows this and it is why nothing is going to happen on the assault rifle side of things. Democrats can't be trusted to maintain that right.

    Like I said yesterday, this is an issue of the breakdown of the nuclear family. With the assault rifle It is the damage that many bullets per minute can do in obviously mentally ill individuals hands.

    I like most of your post regarding the evil democrats are but "bullets per minute" is silly.
    Like I said, what I know about guns you could put in a thimble. But the guy in Vegas sure shot a lot of rounds off quickly and from a decent distance. Just saying.

    There has been a lot of information shared in this thread that I had no idea about. It was a good exercise. As for liking some threads, I simply point out hypocrisy by democrats. The blatant lies, violence and hypocrisy are what motivate me to post on this site. I guarantee none of us are going to agree on all issues but I know for sure there are many elected dem officials who would like nothing better than to take away all guns and that cannot be allowed to happen
    Your motivations are weird. And you surely are blind to your own side. Other than that, nice rant.
    Not blind at all.

    Not glad you hate our country.
    Just like Trump. Anyone who disagrees with you must hate our country. Idiot
    You're a lying, shit bag, socialist turd. HTH
    Be careful. I'll report your rage and hate to Trump so he can take your guns.
    Rage? Simple truths. Painful I'm sure even for one so low.
    No rage. Just hate. Got it.