51% of mass shooters in 2019 were black, 29% were white, and 11% were Latino.
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SFGbob said:
I think guns should be difficult to obtain and retain. Some guns should simply be illegal per se. I think penalties for misuse or illegal possession be stiff. But I’m not for banning them.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Conflate and dissemble all you'd like, does anyone think you actually care about anyone beyond your immediate ideological motives?HHusky said:
If you’re saying more than common sense gun laws are required to combat terrorism, I agree. Domestic terrorism seems to be a very white phenomenon recently.UW_Doog_Bot said:
It's funny that these are both the same when discussing "common sense" gun laws but different now.HHusky said:
Yeah, when some fucker kills his whole family or a drug deal goes South, that’s exactly like a Build the Wall white dude slaughtering Hispanic shoppers in a Wal-Mart because of Replacement Theory.SFGbob said:
That's some super Kunt logic you have working there O'Keefed. We are told that most all of these mass shootings are carried out by whites. Why does it make your snatch so sore to have facts that refute that claim?HHusky said:Yes. They’re accurate. It’s also accurate to say that you, me and Tom Brady have 6 Super Bowl wins between us.
Does it challenge your narrative O'Keefed?
I'd respect you more if you were less disingenuous. At least APAG and Cdawg just come out and say what they really think.
Other than repeating above exactly what I said days ago, I never say what I really want. -
Thanks, and that has little to do with you caring about your fellow citizens welfare as much as you'd like to virtue signal otherwise.HHusky said:SFGbob said:
I think guns should be difficult to obtain and retain. Some guns should simply be illegal per se. I think penalties for misuse or illegal possession be stiff. But I’m not for banning them.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Conflate and dissemble all you'd like, does anyone think you actually care about anyone beyond your immediate ideological motives?HHusky said:
If you’re saying more than common sense gun laws are required to combat terrorism, I agree. Domestic terrorism seems to be a very white phenomenon recently.UW_Doog_Bot said:
It's funny that these are both the same when discussing "common sense" gun laws but different now.HHusky said:
Yeah, when some fucker kills his whole family or a drug deal goes South, that’s exactly like a Build the Wall white dude slaughtering Hispanic shoppers in a Wal-Mart because of Replacement Theory.SFGbob said:
That's some super Kunt logic you have working there O'Keefed. We are told that most all of these mass shootings are carried out by whites. Why does it make your snatch so sore to have facts that refute that claim?HHusky said:Yes. They’re accurate. It’s also accurate to say that you, me and Tom Brady have 6 Super Bowl wins between us.
Does it challenge your narrative O'Keefed?
I'd respect you more if you were less disingenuous. At least APAG and Cdawg just come out and say what they really think.
Other than repeating above exactly what I said days ago, I never say what I really want. -
You’re welcomeUW_Doog_Bot said:
Thanks, and that has little to do with you caring about your fellow citizens welfare as much as you'd like to virtue signal otherwise.HHusky said:SFGbob said:
I think guns should be difficult to obtain and retain. Some guns should simply be illegal per se. I think penalties for misuse or illegal possession be stiff. But I’m not for banning them.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Conflate and dissemble all you'd like, does anyone think you actually care about anyone beyond your immediate ideological motives?HHusky said:
If you’re saying more than common sense gun laws are required to combat terrorism, I agree. Domestic terrorism seems to be a very white phenomenon recently.UW_Doog_Bot said:
It's funny that these are both the same when discussing "common sense" gun laws but different now.HHusky said:
Yeah, when some fucker kills his whole family or a drug deal goes South, that’s exactly like a Build the Wall white dude slaughtering Hispanic shoppers in a Wal-Mart because of Replacement Theory.SFGbob said:
That's some super Kunt logic you have working there O'Keefed. We are told that most all of these mass shootings are carried out by whites. Why does it make your snatch so sore to have facts that refute that claim?HHusky said:Yes. They’re accurate. It’s also accurate to say that you, me and Tom Brady have 6 Super Bowl wins between us.
Does it challenge your narrative O'Keefed?
I'd respect you more if you were less disingenuous. At least APAG and Cdawg just come out and say what they really think.
Other than repeating above exactly what I said days ago, I never say what I really want. -
Or youSledog said:
What's funnier is a liberal using the term "common sense".Swaye said:
I'd like his views on what "common sense" gun laws I should be subjected to, as a tax paying law abiding citizen with a constitutional right to firearms. I always love when we are getting "common sense" laws. Nobody ever explains precisely what that means. I wonder why that is?UW_Doog_Bot said:
It's funny that these are both the same when discussing "common sense" gun laws but different now.HHusky said:
Yeah, when some fucker kills his whole family or a drug deal goes South, that’s exactly like a Build the Wall white dude slaughtering Hispanic shoppers in a Wal-Mart because of Replacement Theory.SFGbob said:
That's some super Kunt logic you have working there O'Keefed. We are told that most all of these mass shootings are carried out by whites. Why does it make your snatch so sore to have facts that refute that claim?HHusky said:Yes. They’re accurate. It’s also accurate to say that you, me and Tom Brady have 6 Super Bowl wins between us.
Does it challenge your narrative O'Keefed? -
But in Kali the left removes those very punishments or fails to enforce them. Three strikes law removed. Mandatory firearm in the commission of a crime is rarely used. So rarely that I wonder if it's still on the books. Felons released early including violent felons. Non revocable parole. What the fuck is that? Why say they are on parole at all? Probation and parole gutted. Unsupervised probation. Again what the hell is that if no one is checking on them?HHusky said:SFGbob said:
I think guns should be difficult to obtain and retain. Some guns should simply be illegal per se. I think penalties for misuse or illegal possession be stiff. But I’m not for banning them.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Conflate and dissemble all you'd like, does anyone think you actually care about anyone beyond your immediate ideological motives?HHusky said:
If you’re saying more than common sense gun laws are required to combat terrorism, I agree. Domestic terrorism seems to be a very white phenomenon recently.UW_Doog_Bot said:
It's funny that these are both the same when discussing "common sense" gun laws but different now.HHusky said:
Yeah, when some fucker kills his whole family or a drug deal goes South, that’s exactly like a Build the Wall white dude slaughtering Hispanic shoppers in a Wal-Mart because of Replacement Theory.SFGbob said:
That's some super Kunt logic you have working there O'Keefed. We are told that most all of these mass shootings are carried out by whites. Why does it make your snatch so sore to have facts that refute that claim?HHusky said:Yes. They’re accurate. It’s also accurate to say that you, me and Tom Brady have 6 Super Bowl wins between us.
Does it challenge your narrative O'Keefed?
I'd respect you more if you were less disingenuous. At least APAG and Cdawg just come out and say what they really think.
Other than repeating above exactly what I said days ago, I never say what I really want.
This is why I say gun control is all about control and not about crime. The left doen't give two shits about crime in Kali. It's all about disarming those that may oppose them as they push farther left. -
As somebody who has spent plenty of tim in both the projects and the trailer park I'll take my chances with crackheads over meth heads anyday.Pitchfork51 said:Are you afraid of all white neighborhoods?
Are you afraid of all black neighborhoods?
Case closed. End of discussion
Poor white people are scary as fuck. -
The wacko libs on here have managed to not discuss the facts presented. Lil' buddy hondo jr and insincere contributed nothing, just called people names while adding zero content. HH did his usual obfuscate hit job in hopes of avoidance of the topic altogether rather than just not participating. It is the same shit every day. At least apag and a few other add something to be discussed and debated.
The real problem is the breakdown of the family, not our gun laws. Libs will never discuss that because it would mean that they have to admit there is importance in being a responsible father and keeping the nuclear family intact . Dems like things the way they are. -
Fuck! And here I thought it was mental health, Hollywood and video games!Bendintheriver said:The wacko libs on here have managed to not discuss the facts presented. Lil' buddy hondo jr and insincere contributed nothing, just called people names while adding zero content. HH did his usual obfuscate hit job in hopes of avoidance of the topic altogether rather than just not participating. It is the same shit every day. At least apag and a few other add something to be discussed and debated.
The real problem is the breakdown of the family, not our gun laws. Libs will never discuss that because it would mean that they have to admit there is importance in being a responsible father and keeping the nuclear family intact . Dems like things the way they are.
Thanks for this really helpful tidbit, Atl. Some of us foolishly wanted to blame the fact any idiot twenty something can get an AK-47.
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True, but statistically they commit far less crime, particularly violent crime.dnc said:
As somebody who has spent plenty of tim in both the projects and the trailer park I'll take my chances with crackheads over meth heads anyday.Pitchfork51 said:Are you afraid of all white neighborhoods?
Are you afraid of all black neighborhoods?
Case closed. End of discussion
Poor white people are scary as fuck. -
I thought you already informed us that the problem is white racism? Are cop killers engaging in domestic terrorism?HHusky said:
Fuck! And here I thought it was mental health, Hollywood and video games!Bendintheriver said:The wacko libs on here have managed to not discuss the facts presented. Lil' buddy hondo jr and insincere contributed nothing, just called people names while adding zero content. HH did his usual obfuscate hit job in hopes of avoidance of the topic altogether rather than just not participating. It is the same shit every day. At least apag and a few other add something to be discussed and debated.
The real problem is the breakdown of the family, not our gun laws. Libs will never discuss that because it would mean that they have to admit there is importance in being a responsible father and keeping the nuclear family intact . Dems like things the way they are.
Thanks for this really helpful tidbit, Atl. Some of us foolishly wanted to blame the fact any idiot twenty something can get an AK-47. -
I make this post once a year so I guess it's time for the annual DNC guns dissertation.
Are there other factors here? Sure.
Do mental illness, video games, single parent homes and the breakdown of families play a role? Absolutely.
But other wealthy, developed countries have all that same shit but don't have near the rate of mass shootings that we do. Pretending the reason we experience this stuff at significantly higher rates than the rest of the first world is something other than access to guns is denial at best, pure dishonesty at worst.
That doesn't mean we should start banning guns. The right has one argument here that holds up and it's a damn good one - the Constitution guarantees us the right to defend ourselves as a protection from tyranny.
There's a real argument that all this shit we see on the news every other week (if we're lucky) about another mass shooting is worth it because one day we? can protect ourselves from hypothetical tyrants.
But the right needs to own it and the debate needs to center there. Is all this shit worth it for Americans to remain armed and free?
I lean yes.
But pointing to anything else other than that is simply wasting people's time and distracting from the reality here.
And sledog, please spare me the "but you can people with knives and cars and bombs too!" responses. I'm in no way pretending that guns are the only weapon out there. But there's a reason they're by far the most frequently used weapons for this kind of shit. -
Really? I thought we'd already squared it's not about the issue of safety for you. It's about making sure only "the right" people are armed.HHusky said:
Fuck! And here I thought it was mental health, Hollywood and video games!Bendintheriver said:The wacko libs on here have managed to not discuss the facts presented. Lil' buddy hondo jr and insincere contributed nothing, just called people names while adding zero content. HH did his usual obfuscate hit job in hopes of avoidance of the topic altogether rather than just not participating. It is the same shit every day. At least apag and a few other add something to be discussed and debated.
The real problem is the breakdown of the family, not our gun laws. Libs will never discuss that because it would mean that they have to admit there is importance in being a responsible father and keeping the nuclear family intact . Dems like things the way they are.
Thanks for this really helpful tidbit, Atl. Some of us foolishly wanted to blame the fact any idiot twenty something can get an AK-47. -
I'd love to see those stats on crime by poor whites.SFGbob said:
True, but statistically they commit far less crime, particularly violent crime.dnc said:
As somebody who has spent plenty of tim in both the projects and the trailer park I'll take my chances with crackheads over meth heads anyday.Pitchfork51 said:Are you afraid of all white neighborhoods?
Are you afraid of all black neighborhoods?
Case closed. End of discussion
Poor white people are scary as fuck. -
Crime stats, especially violent crime stats are fairly easy to find. FBI compiles them every year.dnc said:
I'd love to see those stats on crime by poor whites.SFGbob said:
True, but statistically they commit far less crime, particularly violent crime.dnc said:
As somebody who has spent plenty of tim in both the projects and the trailer park I'll take my chances with crackheads over meth heads anyday.Pitchfork51 said:Are you afraid of all white neighborhoods?
Are you afraid of all black neighborhoods?
Case closed. End of discussion
Poor white people are scary as fuck.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/topic-pages/tables/table-21 -
I didn't see any of that broken down by income levelsSFGbob said:
Crime stats, especially violent crime stats are fairly easy to find. FBI compiles them every year.dnc said:
I'd love to see those stats on crime by poor whites.SFGbob said:
True, but statistically they commit far less crime, particularly violent crime.dnc said:
As somebody who has spent plenty of tim in both the projects and the trailer park I'll take my chances with crackheads over meth heads anyday.Pitchfork51 said:Are you afraid of all white neighborhoods?
Are you afraid of all black neighborhoods?
Case closed. End of discussion
Poor white people are scary as fuck.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/topic-pages/tables/table-21
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Well we know there are actually more poor white people in this country than there are poor black people, and yet crime rates for blacks are still higher than whites.dnc said:
I didn't see any of that broken down by income levelsSFGbob said:
Crime stats, especially violent crime stats are fairly easy to find. FBI compiles them every year.dnc said:
I'd love to see those stats on crime by poor whites.SFGbob said:
True, but statistically they commit far less crime, particularly violent crime.dnc said:
As somebody who has spent plenty of tim in both the projects and the trailer park I'll take my chances with crackheads over meth heads anyday.Pitchfork51 said:Are you afraid of all white neighborhoods?
Are you afraid of all black neighborhoods?
Case closed. End of discussion
Poor white people are scary as fuck.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/topic-pages/tables/table-21 -
The great philosopher Adam Carolla had a good rant on this yesterday. The gist of it is, mass shootings are a tragic phenomenon of our time that are self reinforcing.dnc said:I make this post once a year so I guess it's time for the annual DNC guns dissertation.
Are there other factors here? Sure.
Do mental illness, video games, single parent homes and the breakdown of families play a role? Absolutely.
But other wealthy, developed countries have all that same shit but don't have near the rate of mass shootings that we do. Pretending the reason we experience this stuff at significantly higher rates than the rest of the first world is something other than access to guns is denial at best, pure dishonesty at worst.
That doesn't mean we should start banning guns. The right has one argument here that holds up and it's a damn good one - the Constitution guarantees us the right to defend ourselves as a protection from tyranny.
There's a real argument that all this shit we see on the news every other week (if we're lucky) about another mass shooting is worth it because on day we? can protect ourselves from hypothetical tyrants.
But the right needs to own it and the debate needs to center there. Is all this shit worth it for Americans to remain armed and free?
I lean yes.
But pointing to anything else other than that is simply wasting people's time and distracting from the reality here.
And sledog, please spare me the "but you can people with knives and cars and bombs too!" responses. I'm in no way pretending that guns are the only weapon out there. But there's a reason they're by far the most frequently used weapons for this kind of shit. -
You're conflating raw totals with rates.SFGbob said:
Well we know there are actually more poor white people in this country than there are poor black people, and yet crime rates for blacks are still higher than whites.dnc said:
I didn't see any of that broken down by income levelsSFGbob said:
Crime stats, especially violent crime stats are fairly easy to find. FBI compiles them every year.dnc said:
I'd love to see those stats on crime by poor whites.SFGbob said:
True, but statistically they commit far less crime, particularly violent crime.dnc said:
As somebody who has spent plenty of tim in both the projects and the trailer park I'll take my chances with crackheads over meth heads anyday.Pitchfork51 said:Are you afraid of all white neighborhoods?
Are you afraid of all black neighborhoods?
Case closed. End of discussion
Poor white people are scary as fuck.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/topic-pages/tables/table-21
I don't think you're dumb enough to be doing that by accident. -
#ThatsMyPresidentGrundleStiltzkin said:
The great philosopher Adam Carolla had a good rant on this yesterday. The gist of it is, mass shootings are a tragic phenomenon of our time that are self reinforcing.dnc said:I make this post once a year so I guess it's time for the annual DNC guns dissertation.
Are there other factors here? Sure.
Do mental illness, video games, single parent homes and the breakdown of families play a role? Absolutely.
But other wealthy, developed countries have all that same shit but don't have near the rate of mass shootings that we do. Pretending the reason we experience this stuff at significantly higher rates than the rest of the first world is something other than access to guns is denial at best, pure dishonesty at worst.
That doesn't mean we should start banning guns. The right has one argument here that holds up and it's a damn good one - the Constitution guarantees us the right to defend ourselves as a protection from tyranny.
There's a real argument that all this shit we see on the news every other week (if we're lucky) about another mass shooting is worth it because on day we? can protect ourselves from hypothetical tyrants.
But the right needs to own it and the debate needs to center there. Is all this shit worth it for Americans to remain armed and free?
I lean yes.
But pointing to anything else other than that is simply wasting people's time and distracting from the reality here.
And sledog, please spare me the "but you can people with knives and cars and bombs too!" responses. I'm in no way pretending that guns are the only weapon out there. But there's a reason they're by far the most frequently used weapons for this kind of shit. -
No, the number of poor whites is greater than poor blacks. If poor whites committed crime at the same or greater rate than blacks there would be more homicides and violent crimes in terms of raw numbers being committed by whites. The numbers don't support that.dnc said:
You're conflating raw totals with rates.SFGbob said:
Well we know there are actually more poor white people in this country than there are poor black people, and yet crime rates for blacks are still higher than whites.dnc said:
I didn't see any of that broken down by income levelsSFGbob said:
Crime stats, especially violent crime stats are fairly easy to find. FBI compiles them every year.dnc said:
I'd love to see those stats on crime by poor whites.SFGbob said:
True, but statistically they commit far less crime, particularly violent crime.dnc said:
As somebody who has spent plenty of tim in both the projects and the trailer park I'll take my chances with crackheads over meth heads anyday.Pitchfork51 said:Are you afraid of all white neighborhoods?
Are you afraid of all black neighborhoods?
Case closed. End of discussion
Poor white people are scary as fuck.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/topic-pages/tables/table-21
I don't think you're dumb enough to be doing that by accident. -
I'm not sure which is worse here, your reasoning skills or your math skills.SFGbob said:
No, the number of poor whites is greater than poor blacks. If poor whites committed crime at the same or greater rate than blacks there would be more homicides and violent crimes in terms of raw numbers being committed by whites. The numbers don't support that.dnc said:
You're conflating raw totals with rates.SFGbob said:
Well we know there are actually more poor white people in this country than there are poor black people, and yet crime rates for blacks are still higher than whites.dnc said:
I didn't see any of that broken down by income levelsSFGbob said:
Crime stats, especially violent crime stats are fairly easy to find. FBI compiles them every year.dnc said:
I'd love to see those stats on crime by poor whites.SFGbob said:
True, but statistically they commit far less crime, particularly violent crime.dnc said:
As somebody who has spent plenty of tim in both the projects and the trailer park I'll take my chances with crackheads over meth heads anyday.Pitchfork51 said:Are you afraid of all white neighborhoods?
Are you afraid of all black neighborhoods?
Case closed. End of discussion
Poor white people are scary as fuck.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/topic-pages/tables/table-21
I don't think you're dumb enough to be doing that by accident.
Either way
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Mike Rowe/Adam Carolla 2020dnc said:
#ThatsMyPresidentGrundleStiltzkin said:
The great philosopher Adam Carolla had a good rant on this yesterday. The gist of it is, mass shootings are a tragic phenomenon of our time that are self reinforcing.dnc said:I make this post once a year so I guess it's time for the annual DNC guns dissertation.
Are there other factors here? Sure.
Do mental illness, video games, single parent homes and the breakdown of families play a role? Absolutely.
But other wealthy, developed countries have all that same shit but don't have near the rate of mass shootings that we do. Pretending the reason we experience this stuff at significantly higher rates than the rest of the first world is something other than access to guns is denial at best, pure dishonesty at worst.
That doesn't mean we should start banning guns. The right has one argument here that holds up and it's a damn good one - the Constitution guarantees us the right to defend ourselves as a protection from tyranny.
There's a real argument that all this shit we see on the news every other week (if we're lucky) about another mass shooting is worth it because on day we? can protect ourselves from hypothetical tyrants.
But the right needs to own it and the debate needs to center there. Is all this shit worth it for Americans to remain armed and free?
I lean yes.
But pointing to anything else other than that is simply wasting people's time and distracting from the reality here.
And sledog, please spare me the "but you can people with knives and cars and bombs too!" responses. I'm in no way pretending that guns are the only weapon out there. But there's a reason they're by far the most frequently used weapons for this kind of shit.
"Take care of your shit" -
Don't blame me because you don't want to look at the numbersdnc said:
I'm not sure which is worse here, your reasoning skills or your math skills.SFGbob said:
No, the number of poor whites is greater than poor blacks. If poor whites committed crime at the same or greater rate than blacks there would be more homicides and violent crimes in terms of raw numbers being committed by whites. The numbers don't support that.dnc said:
You're conflating raw totals with rates.SFGbob said:
Well we know there are actually more poor white people in this country than there are poor black people, and yet crime rates for blacks are still higher than whites.dnc said:
I didn't see any of that broken down by income levelsSFGbob said:
Crime stats, especially violent crime stats are fairly easy to find. FBI compiles them every year.dnc said:
I'd love to see those stats on crime by poor whites.SFGbob said:
True, but statistically they commit far less crime, particularly violent crime.dnc said:
As somebody who has spent plenty of tim in both the projects and the trailer park I'll take my chances with crackheads over meth heads anyday.Pitchfork51 said:Are you afraid of all white neighborhoods?
Are you afraid of all black neighborhoods?
Case closed. End of discussion
Poor white people are scary as fuck.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/topic-pages/tables/table-21
I don't think you're dumb enough to be doing that by accident.
Either way -
I've looked.SFGbob said:
Don't blame me because you don't want to look at the numbersdnc said:
I'm not sure which is worse here, your reasoning skills or your math skills.SFGbob said:
No, the number of poor whites is greater than poor blacks. If poor whites committed crime at the same or greater rate than blacks there would be more homicides and violent crimes in terms of raw numbers being committed by whites. The numbers don't support that.dnc said:
You're conflating raw totals with rates.SFGbob said:
Well we know there are actually more poor white people in this country than there are poor black people, and yet crime rates for blacks are still higher than whites.dnc said:
I didn't see any of that broken down by income levelsSFGbob said:
Crime stats, especially violent crime stats are fairly easy to find. FBI compiles them every year.dnc said:
I'd love to see those stats on crime by poor whites.SFGbob said:
True, but statistically they commit far less crime, particularly violent crime.dnc said:
As somebody who has spent plenty of tim in both the projects and the trailer park I'll take my chances with crackheads over meth heads anyday.Pitchfork51 said:Are you afraid of all white neighborhoods?
Are you afraid of all black neighborhoods?
Case closed. End of discussion
Poor white people are scary as fuck.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/topic-pages/tables/table-21
I don't think you're dumb enough to be doing that by accident.
Either way
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The number of whites arrested for Murder in 2016 was 4,192
The number of blacks arrested for Murder in 2016 was 4,935
Since we know there are more poor whites in this country than there are poor blacks if whites were committing murder at an equal to or greater rate than blacks those numbers would be different. -
I thought you already knew that the bad guys can get guns illegally. You aren't going to stop that.HHusky said:
Fuck! And here I thought it was mental health, Hollywood and video games!Bendintheriver said:The wacko libs on here have managed to not discuss the facts presented. Lil' buddy hondo jr and insincere contributed nothing, just called people names while adding zero content. HH did his usual obfuscate hit job in hopes of avoidance of the topic altogether rather than just not participating. It is the same shit every day. At least apag and a few other add something to be discussed and debated.
The real problem is the breakdown of the family, not our gun laws. Libs will never discuss that because it would mean that they have to admit there is importance in being a responsible father and keeping the nuclear family intact . Dems like things the way they are.
Thanks for this really helpful tidbit, Atl. Some of us foolishly wanted to blame the fact any idiot twenty something can get an AK-47. -
Which classes of guns would you ban, and why?HHusky said:SFGbob said:
I think guns should be difficult to obtain and retain. Some guns should simply be illegal per se. I think penalties for misuse or illegal possession be stiff. But I’m not for banning them.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Conflate and dissemble all you'd like, does anyone think you actually care about anyone beyond your immediate ideological motives?HHusky said:
If you’re saying more than common sense gun laws are required to combat terrorism, I agree. Domestic terrorism seems to be a very white phenomenon recently.UW_Doog_Bot said:
It's funny that these are both the same when discussing "common sense" gun laws but different now.HHusky said:
Yeah, when some fucker kills his whole family or a drug deal goes South, that’s exactly like a Build the Wall white dude slaughtering Hispanic shoppers in a Wal-Mart because of Replacement Theory.SFGbob said:
That's some super Kunt logic you have working there O'Keefed. We are told that most all of these mass shootings are carried out by whites. Why does it make your snatch so sore to have facts that refute that claim?HHusky said:Yes. They’re accurate. It’s also accurate to say that you, me and Tom Brady have 6 Super Bowl wins between us.
Does it challenge your narrative O'Keefed?
I'd respect you more if you were less disingenuous. At least APAG and Cdawg just come out and say what they really think.
Other than repeating above exactly what I said days ago, I never say what I really want. -
The problem is that the left never says "let's repeal the 2nd"dnc said:I make this post once a year so I guess it's time for the annual DNC guns dissertation.
Are there other factors here? Sure.
Do mental illness, video games, single parent homes and the breakdown of families play a role? Absolutely.
But other wealthy, developed countries have all that same shit but don't have near the rate of mass shootings that we do. Pretending the reason we experience this stuff at significantly higher rates than the rest of the first world is something other than access to guns is denial at best, pure dishonesty at worst.
That doesn't mean we should start banning guns. The right has one argument here that holds up and it's a damn good one - the Constitution guarantees us the right to defend ourselves as a protection from tyranny.
There's a real argument that all this shit we see on the news every other week (if we're lucky) about another mass shooting is worth it because one day we? can protect ourselves from hypothetical tyrants.
But the right needs to own it and the debate needs to center there. Is all this shit worth it for Americans to remain armed and free?
I lean yes.
But pointing to anything else other than that is simply wasting people's time and distracting from the reality here.
And sledog, please spare me the "but you can people with knives and cars and bombs too!" responses. I'm in no way pretending that guns are the only weapon out there. But there's a reason they're by far the most frequently used weapons for this kind of shit.
They do crap like make things double secret illegal or difficult for no good reason other than to try to ban inch by inch -
This does nothing to split out for levels of property, increases of murder rates as people live in close proximity, etc.SFGbob said:The number of whites arrested for Murder in 2016 was 4,192
The number of blacks arrested for Murder in 2016 was 4,935
Since we know there are more poor whites in this country than there are poor blacks if whites were committing murder at an equal to or greater rate than blacks those numbers would be different.
I'm saying poor white people living piled on top of each other in a trailer park are just as dangerous as poor black people living piled on top of each other in the projects.
You're saying nope, one is more dangerous because skin color.
Good job, good effort.
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Why did you fucking lie? I never claimed blacks are more dangerous because of their skin color. Fuck you. Your claims about poor whites and poor blacks are based entirely on your unsupported opinions.dnc said:
This does nothing to split out for levels of property, increases of murder rates as people live in close proximity, etc.SFGbob said:The number of whites arrested for Murder in 2016 was 4,192
The number of blacks arrested for Murder in 2016 was 4,935
Since we know there are more poor whites in this country than there are poor blacks if whites were committing murder at an equal to or greater rate than blacks those numbers would be different.
I'm saying poor white people living piled on top of each other in a trailer park are just as dangerous as poor black people living piled on top of each other in the projects.
You're saying nope, one is more dangerous because skin color.
Good job, good effort.
You're just engaged in the standard virtue signalling where you think it makes you sound more enlightened to make statements that aren't supported by the facts. I never said anything about the projects and there are plenty of poor rural living black people.
