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51% of mass shooters in 2019 were black, 29% were white, and 11% were Latino.
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I'd be talking to people like you, who know something about guns, about legitimate reasons why anyone would ever want own particular types of weapons. It's not immediately obvious to me why someone should have an AK-47, for example. I realize Sled wants to over throw the Deep State, but I want to talk about reality.Swaye said:
Which classes of guns would you ban, and why?HHusky said:SFGbob said:
I think guns should be difficult to obtain and retain. Some guns should simply be illegal per se. I think penalties for misuse or illegal possession be stiff. But I’m not for banning them.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Conflate and dissemble all you'd like, does anyone think you actually care about anyone beyond your immediate ideological motives?HHusky said:
If you’re saying more than common sense gun laws are required to combat terrorism, I agree. Domestic terrorism seems to be a very white phenomenon recently.UW_Doog_Bot said:
It's funny that these are both the same when discussing "common sense" gun laws but different now.HHusky said:
Yeah, when some fucker kills his whole family or a drug deal goes South, that’s exactly like a Build the Wall white dude slaughtering Hispanic shoppers in a Wal-Mart because of Replacement Theory.SFGbob said:
That's some super Kunt logic you have working there O'Keefed. We are told that most all of these mass shootings are carried out by whites. Why does it make your snatch so sore to have facts that refute that claim?HHusky said:Yes. They’re accurate. It’s also accurate to say that you, me and Tom Brady have 6 Super Bowl wins between us.
Does it challenge your narrative O'Keefed?
I'd respect you more if you were less disingenuous. At least APAG and Cdawg just come out and say what they really think.
Other than repeating above exactly what I said days ago, I never say what I really want. -
Okay then Mr "I demand everyone agree blacks are more dangerous". What is your reasoning why they are more dangerous (IYO) then?SFGbob said:
Why did you fucking lie? I never claimed blacks are more dangerous because of their skin color. Fuck you. Your claims about poor whites and poor blacks are based entirely on your unsupported opinions.dnc said:
This does nothing to split out for levels of property, increases of murder rates as people live in close proximity, etc.SFGbob said:The number of whites arrested for Murder in 2016 was 4,192
The number of blacks arrested for Murder in 2016 was 4,935
Since we know there are more poor whites in this country than there are poor blacks if whites were committing murder at an equal to or greater rate than blacks those numbers would be different.
I'm saying poor white people living piled on top of each other in a trailer park are just as dangerous as poor black people living piled on top of each other in the projects.
You're saying nope, one is more dangerous because skin color.
Good job, good effort.
You're just engaged in the standard virtue signalling where you think it makes you sound more enlightened to make statements that aren't supported by the facts. I never said anything about the projects and there are plenty of poor rural living black people. -
Ak-47s are fully automatic. The relatively small number that exist legally in the country are heavily regulated.HHusky said:
I'd be talking to people like you, who know something about guns, about legitimate reasons why anyone would ever want own particular types of weapons. It's not immediately obvious to me why someone should have an AK-47, for example. I realize Sled wants to over throw the Deep State, but I want to talk about reality.Swaye said:
Which classes of guns would you ban, and why?HHusky said:SFGbob said:
I think guns should be difficult to obtain and retain. Some guns should simply be illegal per se. I think penalties for misuse or illegal possession be stiff. But I’m not for banning them.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Conflate and dissemble all you'd like, does anyone think you actually care about anyone beyond your immediate ideological motives?HHusky said:
If you’re saying more than common sense gun laws are required to combat terrorism, I agree. Domestic terrorism seems to be a very white phenomenon recently.UW_Doog_Bot said:
It's funny that these are both the same when discussing "common sense" gun laws but different now.HHusky said:
Yeah, when some fucker kills his whole family or a drug deal goes South, that’s exactly like a Build the Wall white dude slaughtering Hispanic shoppers in a Wal-Mart because of Replacement Theory.SFGbob said:
That's some super Kunt logic you have working there O'Keefed. We are told that most all of these mass shootings are carried out by whites. Why does it make your snatch so sore to have facts that refute that claim?HHusky said:Yes. They’re accurate. It’s also accurate to say that you, me and Tom Brady have 6 Super Bowl wins between us.
Does it challenge your narrative O'Keefed?
I'd respect you more if you were less disingenuous. At least APAG and Cdawg just come out and say what they really think.
Other than repeating above exactly what I said days ago, I never say what I really want. -
I just fucking gave you the numbers that you obviously didn't look at. What do you have that shows whites are more dangerous other than your opinion? And I never said blacks are more dangerous because of their skin color asswhole.dnc said:
Okay then Mr "I demand everyone agree blacks are more dangerous". What is your reasoning why they are more dangerous (IYO) then?SFGbob said:
Why did you fucking lie? I never claimed blacks are more dangerous because of their skin color. Fuck you. Your claims about poor whites and poor blacks are based entirely on your unsupported opinions.dnc said:
This does nothing to split out for levels of property, increases of murder rates as people live in close proximity, etc.SFGbob said:The number of whites arrested for Murder in 2016 was 4,192
The number of blacks arrested for Murder in 2016 was 4,935
Since we know there are more poor whites in this country than there are poor blacks if whites were committing murder at an equal to or greater rate than blacks those numbers would be different.
I'm saying poor white people living piled on top of each other in a trailer park are just as dangerous as poor black people living piled on top of each other in the projects.
You're saying nope, one is more dangerous because skin color.
Good job, good effort.
You're just engaged in the standard virtue signalling where you think it makes you sound more enlightened to make statements that aren't supported by the facts. I never said anything about the projects and there are plenty of poor rural living black people.
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Then why are they more dangerous?SFGbob said:
I just fucking gave you the numbers that you obviously didn't look at. What do you have that shows whites are more dangerous other than your opinion? And I never said blacks are more dangerous because of their skin color asswhole.dnc said:
Okay then Mr "I demand everyone agree blacks are more dangerous". What is your reasoning why they are more dangerous (IYO) then?SFGbob said:
Why did you fucking lie? I never claimed blacks are more dangerous because of their skin color. Fuck you. Your claims about poor whites and poor blacks are based entirely on your unsupported opinions.dnc said:
This does nothing to split out for levels of property, increases of murder rates as people live in close proximity, etc.SFGbob said:The number of whites arrested for Murder in 2016 was 4,192
The number of blacks arrested for Murder in 2016 was 4,935
Since we know there are more poor whites in this country than there are poor blacks if whites were committing murder at an equal to or greater rate than blacks those numbers would be different.
I'm saying poor white people living piled on top of each other in a trailer park are just as dangerous as poor black people living piled on top of each other in the projects.
You're saying nope, one is more dangerous because skin color.
Good job, good effort.
You're just engaged in the standard virtue signalling where you think it makes you sound more enlightened to make statements that aren't supported by the facts. I never said anything about the projects and there are plenty of poor rural living black people.
You've already ducked the question once. -
Last I heard, the shooter got his legally. What did he have to go through to get it?GrundleStiltzkin said:
Ak-47s are fully automatic. The relatively small number that exist legally in the country are heavily regulated.HHusky said:
I'd be talking to people like you, who know something about guns, about legitimate reasons why anyone would ever want own particular types of weapons. It's not immediately obvious to me why someone should have an AK-47, for example. I realize Sled wants to over throw the Deep State, but I want to talk about reality.Swaye said:
Which classes of guns would you ban, and why?HHusky said:SFGbob said:
I think guns should be difficult to obtain and retain. Some guns should simply be illegal per se. I think penalties for misuse or illegal possession be stiff. But I’m not for banning them.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Conflate and dissemble all you'd like, does anyone think you actually care about anyone beyond your immediate ideological motives?HHusky said:
If you’re saying more than common sense gun laws are required to combat terrorism, I agree. Domestic terrorism seems to be a very white phenomenon recently.UW_Doog_Bot said:
It's funny that these are both the same when discussing "common sense" gun laws but different now.HHusky said:
Yeah, when some fucker kills his whole family or a drug deal goes South, that’s exactly like a Build the Wall white dude slaughtering Hispanic shoppers in a Wal-Mart because of Replacement Theory.SFGbob said:
That's some super Kunt logic you have working there O'Keefed. We are told that most all of these mass shootings are carried out by whites. Why does it make your snatch so sore to have facts that refute that claim?HHusky said:Yes. They’re accurate. It’s also accurate to say that you, me and Tom Brady have 6 Super Bowl wins between us.
Does it challenge your narrative O'Keefed?
I'd respect you more if you were less disingenuous. At least APAG and Cdawg just come out and say what they really think.
Other than repeating above exactly what I said days ago, I never say what I really want.
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Who had an AK-47?HHusky said:
Last I heard, the shooter got his legally. What did he have to go through to get it?GrundleStiltzkin said:
Ak-47s are fully automatic. The relatively small number that exist legally in the country are heavily regulated.HHusky said:
I'd be talking to people like you, who know something about guns, about legitimate reasons why anyone would ever want own particular types of weapons. It's not immediately obvious to me why someone should have an AK-47, for example. I realize Sled wants to over throw the Deep State, but I want to talk about reality.Swaye said:
Which classes of guns would you ban, and why?HHusky said:SFGbob said:
I think guns should be difficult to obtain and retain. Some guns should simply be illegal per se. I think penalties for misuse or illegal possession be stiff. But I’m not for banning them.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Conflate and dissemble all you'd like, does anyone think you actually care about anyone beyond your immediate ideological motives?HHusky said:
If you’re saying more than common sense gun laws are required to combat terrorism, I agree. Domestic terrorism seems to be a very white phenomenon recently.UW_Doog_Bot said:
It's funny that these are both the same when discussing "common sense" gun laws but different now.HHusky said:
Yeah, when some fucker kills his whole family or a drug deal goes South, that’s exactly like a Build the Wall white dude slaughtering Hispanic shoppers in a Wal-Mart because of Replacement Theory.SFGbob said:
That's some super Kunt logic you have working there O'Keefed. We are told that most all of these mass shootings are carried out by whites. Why does it make your snatch so sore to have facts that refute that claim?HHusky said:Yes. They’re accurate. It’s also accurate to say that you, me and Tom Brady have 6 Super Bowl wins between us.
Does it challenge your narrative O'Keefed?
I'd respect you more if you were less disingenuous. At least APAG and Cdawg just come out and say what they really think.
Other than repeating above exactly what I said days ago, I never say what I really want. -
The left knows gun control doesn't work. They rule all the worst places with the highest murder rates in the country that coincidentally have the most stringent gun control if not outright defacto bans. Doesn't stop a thing. Criminals don't buy their guns at the store.Pitchfork51 said:
The problem is that the left never says "let's repeal the 2nd"dnc said:I make this post once a year so I guess it's time for the annual DNC guns dissertation.
Are there other factors here? Sure.
Do mental illness, video games, single parent homes and the breakdown of families play a role? Absolutely.
But other wealthy, developed countries have all that same shit but don't have near the rate of mass shootings that we do. Pretending the reason we experience this stuff at significantly higher rates than the rest of the first world is something other than access to guns is denial at best, pure dishonesty at worst.
That doesn't mean we should start banning guns. The right has one argument here that holds up and it's a damn good one - the Constitution guarantees us the right to defend ourselves as a protection from tyranny.
There's a real argument that all this shit we see on the news every other week (if we're lucky) about another mass shooting is worth it because one day we? can protect ourselves from hypothetical tyrants.
But the right needs to own it and the debate needs to center there. Is all this shit worth it for Americans to remain armed and free?
I lean yes.
But pointing to anything else other than that is simply wasting people's time and distracting from the reality here.
And sledog, please spare me the "but you can people with knives and cars and bombs too!" responses. I'm in no way pretending that guns are the only weapon out there. But there's a reason they're by far the most frequently used weapons for this kind of shit.
They do crap like make things double secret illegal or difficult for no good reason other than to try to ban inch by inch -
I answered that question already. I even gave you statistics in support of my answers that you then lied about.dnc said:
Then why are they more dangerous?SFGbob said:
I just fucking gave you the numbers that you obviously didn't look at. What do you have that shows whites are more dangerous other than your opinion? And I never said blacks are more dangerous because of their skin color asswhole.dnc said:
Okay then Mr "I demand everyone agree blacks are more dangerous". What is your reasoning why they are more dangerous (IYO) then?SFGbob said:
Why did you fucking lie? I never claimed blacks are more dangerous because of their skin color. Fuck you. Your claims about poor whites and poor blacks are based entirely on your unsupported opinions.dnc said:
This does nothing to split out for levels of property, increases of murder rates as people live in close proximity, etc.SFGbob said:The number of whites arrested for Murder in 2016 was 4,192
The number of blacks arrested for Murder in 2016 was 4,935
Since we know there are more poor whites in this country than there are poor blacks if whites were committing murder at an equal to or greater rate than blacks those numbers would be different.
I'm saying poor white people living piled on top of each other in a trailer park are just as dangerous as poor black people living piled on top of each other in the projects.
You're saying nope, one is more dangerous because skin color.
Good job, good effort.
You're just engaged in the standard virtue signalling where you think it makes you sound more enlightened to make statements that aren't supported by the facts. I never said anything about the projects and there are plenty of poor rural living black people.
You've already ducked the question once.
Can we agree that people who commit violent crime are more dangerous on average than people who don't commit violent crimes? -
What kind of gun did the El Paso shooter have?GrundleStiltzkin said:
Who had an AK-47?HHusky said:
Last I heard, the shooter got his legally. What did he have to go through to get it?GrundleStiltzkin said:
Ak-47s are fully automatic. The relatively small number that exist legally in the country are heavily regulated.HHusky said:
I'd be talking to people like you, who know something about guns, about legitimate reasons why anyone would ever want own particular types of weapons. It's not immediately obvious to me why someone should have an AK-47, for example. I realize Sled wants to over throw the Deep State, but I want to talk about reality.Swaye said:
Which classes of guns would you ban, and why?HHusky said:SFGbob said:
I think guns should be difficult to obtain and retain. Some guns should simply be illegal per se. I think penalties for misuse or illegal possession be stiff. But I’m not for banning them.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Conflate and dissemble all you'd like, does anyone think you actually care about anyone beyond your immediate ideological motives?HHusky said:
If you’re saying more than common sense gun laws are required to combat terrorism, I agree. Domestic terrorism seems to be a very white phenomenon recently.UW_Doog_Bot said:
It's funny that these are both the same when discussing "common sense" gun laws but different now.HHusky said:
Yeah, when some fucker kills his whole family or a drug deal goes South, that’s exactly like a Build the Wall white dude slaughtering Hispanic shoppers in a Wal-Mart because of Replacement Theory.SFGbob said:
That's some super Kunt logic you have working there O'Keefed. We are told that most all of these mass shootings are carried out by whites. Why does it make your snatch so sore to have facts that refute that claim?HHusky said:Yes. They’re accurate. It’s also accurate to say that you, me and Tom Brady have 6 Super Bowl wins between us.
Does it challenge your narrative O'Keefed?
I'd respect you more if you were less disingenuous. At least APAG and Cdawg just come out and say what they really think.
Other than repeating above exactly what I said days ago, I never say what I really want.
