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  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,509
    I think Wilson will commit to the Ducks this weekend. I also think he will still take all his official visits.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    I think Wilson will commit to the Ducks this weekend. I also think he will still take all his official visits.

    I don't think he'll take all five but two or three easily.
  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735
    He's going to Texas if they'll take him. Oregon if they don't. He 224 pounds already. He's a soft TE prospect.
  • lawsandl
    lawsandl Member Posts: 1,555

    He's going to Texas if they'll take him. Oregon if they don't. He 224 pounds already. He's a soft TE prospect.

    Funny
  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735
    edited July 2019
    lawsandl said:

    He's going to Texas if they'll take him. Oregon if they don't. He 224 pounds already. He's a soft TE prospect.

    Funny
    Yeah it is. One of the potential "crown jewels" of Oregon's class is a tweener between WR and TE. McMillan, Raccanelli, and UW target Odunze are all better pure WR prospects than him and it's not even close. Wilson did next to nothing on the camp circuit and lost his 5th star. I'd rate him as a 3-star TE prospect because he will easily outgrow the WR position.
  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735
    edited July 2019
    DJDuck said:
    You have to be the dumbest motherfucker on the planet. The position a guy is ranked at in high school is not always the position he plays in college retard. Some big WR's grow into TE's like Wilson will.
  • DJDuck
    DJDuck Member Posts: 5,970
    edited July 2019
    No you are the biggest hypocrite motherfucker. He will play WR. He could play TE on certain downs or more if his body changes but for now he is a wide receiver. All this Husky bullshit is because you are butthurt. You offered him you wanted him and Ducks beat you out for him. Gee aren’t you smart. No one but you realized that a recruit might play a different position.


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Hrm-rPSCIBw
  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735
    edited July 2019
    DJDuck said:

    No you are the biggest hypocrite motherfucker. He will play WR. He could play TE on certain downs or more if his body changes but for now he is a wide receiver. All this Husky bullshit is because you are butthurt. You offered him you wanted him and Ducks beat you out for him. Gee aren’t you smart. No one but you realized that a recruit might play a different position.


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Hrm-rPSCIBw

    Lol "for now he's a WR". Sure, because "for now" is when he's still in high school. He still has another year of physical growth ahead of him before his first college season. What's he gonna do, stop lifting weights? He'll be 240 in two years.

    And I'm not butthurt. I've been saying this for a long time even when UW was his early favorite. He'd be a Dawg if we wanted him but he's not a WR and isn't physical enough to be a TE or even Flex TE for us so we passed. Oregon can have him. McMillan is a way better WR prospect.
  • lawsandl
    lawsandl Member Posts: 1,555
    Johnny Wilson could gain another 15 pounds and still play out wide. He’s a sub 4.6 40 kid with a 4.25 shuttle. If the S&C staff want him to be explosive, he will be.
  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735
    edited July 2019
    lawsandl said:

    Johnny Wilson could gain another 15 pounds and still play out wide. He’s a sub 4.6 40 kid with a 4.25 shuttle. If the S&C staff want him to be explosive, he will be.

    4.59 at 224 pounds equals 4.7 at 240 pounds. Maybe 4.65 at best. He's a tweener.

    There is more to playing WR than speed tho. You have to be able to start and stop quickly, change direction smoothly, get in and out of brakes. He doesn't have that stuff. His film and route running are very basic. Just go routes and slants and posts. He'll never be good enough of a route runner to play WIDE receiver and be effective. He's a slot/flex TE guy but doesn't play as big as he is. He's a 50-50 ball guy. Not a consistent separation guy. He needs a specific role in an offense that minimizes his weaknesses which means putting him in the slot and trying to get mismatches against nickels, safeties, and linebackers.
  • lawsandl
    lawsandl Member Posts: 1,555

    lawsandl said:

    Johnny Wilson could gain another 15 pounds and still play out wide. He’s a sub 4.6 40 kid with a 4.25 shuttle. If the S&C staff want him to be explosive, he will be.

    4.59 at 224 pounds equals 4.7 at 240 pounds. Maybe 4.65 at best. He's a tweener.

    There is more to playing WR than speed tho. You have to be able to start and stop quickly, change direction smoothly, get in and out of brakes. He doesn't have that stuff. His film and route running are very basic. Just go routes and slants and posts. He'll never be good enough of a route runner to play WIDE receiver and be effective. He's a slot/flex TE guy but doesn't play as big as he is. He's a 50-50 ball guy. Not a consistent separation guy. He needs a specific role in an offense that minimizes his weaknesses which means putting him in the slot and trying to get mismatches against nickels, safeties, and linebackers.
    You’re also the one that thinks Sewell can’t play ILB. You catastrophize any event related to Oregon. The kid looks like he’s filled out and probably mostly maxed out. Also, he is not necessarily losing speed or agility if he adds weight.
  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,135

    lawsandl said:

    Johnny Wilson could gain another 15 pounds and still play out wide. He’s a sub 4.6 40 kid with a 4.25 shuttle. If the S&C staff want him to be explosive, he will be.

    4.59 at 224 pounds equals 4.7 at 240 pounds. Maybe 4.65 at best. He's a tweener.

    There is more to playing WR than speed tho. You have to be able to start and stop quickly, change direction smoothly, get in and out of brakes. He doesn't have that stuff. His film and route running are very basic. Just go routes and slants and posts. He'll never be good enough of a route runner to play WIDE receiver and be effective. He's a slot/flex TE guy but doesn't play as big as he is. He's a 50-50 ball guy. Not a consistent separation guy. He needs a specific role in an offense that minimizes his weaknesses which means putting him in the slot and trying to get mismatches against nickels, safeties, and linebackers.
    “Brakes”
  • lawsandl
    lawsandl Member Posts: 1,555
    The kid has a 4.25 shuttle at 6’6” 225. His agility is fantastic.
  • DJDuck
    DJDuck Member Posts: 5,970
    lawsandl said:

    Johnny Wilson could gain another 15 pounds and still play out wide. He’s a sub 4.6 40 kid with a 4.25 shuttle. If the S&C staff want him to be explosive, he will be.

    lawsandl said:

    Johnny Wilson could gain another 15 pounds and still play out wide. He’s a sub 4.6 40 kid with a 4.25 shuttle. If the S&C staff want him to be explosive, he will be.

    4.59 is fast for someone 6’6”
  • DJDuck
    DJDuck Member Posts: 5,970
    edited July 2019
    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    Johnny Wilson could gain another 15 pounds and still play out wide. He’s a sub 4.6 40 kid with a 4.25 shuttle. If the S&C staff want him to be explosive, he will be.

    4.59 at 224 pounds equals 4.7 at 240 pounds. Maybe 4.65 at best. He's a tweener.

    There is more to playing WR than speed tho. You have to be able to start and stop quickly, change direction smoothly, get in and out of brakes. He doesn't have that stuff. His film and route running are very basic. Just go routes and slants and posts. He'll never be good enough of a route runner to play WIDE receiver and be effective. He's a slot/flex TE guy but doesn't play as big as he is. He's a 50-50 ball guy. Not a consistent separation guy. He needs a specific role in an offense that minimizes his weaknesses which means putting him in the slot and trying to get mismatches against nickels, safeties, and linebackers.
    You’re also the one that thinks Sewell can’t play ILB. You catastrophize any event related to Oregon. The kid looks like he’s filled out and probably mostly maxed out. Also, he is not necessarily losing speed or agility if he adds weight.
    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    Johnny Wilson could gain another 15 pounds and still play out wide. He’s a sub 4.6 40 kid with a 4.25 shuttle. If the S&C staff want him to be explosive, he will be.

    4.59 at 224 pounds equals 4.7 at 240 pounds. Maybe 4.65 at best. He's a tweener.

    There is more to playing WR than speed tho. You have to be able to start and stop quickly, change direction smoothly, get in and out of brakes. He doesn't have that stuff. His film and route running are very basic. Just go routes and slants and posts. He'll never be good enough of a route runner to play WIDE receiver and be effective. He's a slot/flex TE guy but doesn't play as big as he is. He's a 50-50 ball guy. Not a consistent separation guy. He needs a specific role in an offense that minimizes his weaknesses which means putting him in the slot and trying to get mismatches against nickels, safeties, and linebackers.
    You’re also the one that thinks Sewell can’t play ILB. You catastrophize any event related to Oregon. The kid looks like he’s filled out and probably mostly maxed out. Also, he is not necessarily losing speed or agility if he adds weight.
    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    Johnny Wilson could gain another 15 pounds and still play out wide. He’s a sub 4.6 40 kid with a 4.25 shuttle. If the S&C staff want him to be explosive, he will be.

    4.59 at 224 pounds equals 4.7 at 240 pounds. Maybe 4.65 at best. He's a tweener.

    There is more to playing WR than speed tho. You have to be able to start and stop quickly, change direction smoothly, get in and out of brakes. He doesn't have that stuff. His film and route running are very basic. Just go routes and slants and posts. He'll never be good enough of a route runner to play WIDE receiver and be effective. He's a slot/flex TE guy but doesn't play as big as he is. He's a 50-50 ball guy. Not a consistent separation guy. He needs a specific role in an offense that minimizes his weaknesses which means putting him in the slot and trying to get mismatches against nickels, safeties, and linebackers.
    You’re also the one that thinks Sewell can’t play ILB. You catastrophize any event related to Oregon. The kid looks like he’s filled out and probably mostly maxed out. Also, he is not necessarily losing speed or agility if he adds weight.
    Exactly. Sewell will NEVER play LB in college he is too fat. Now who is the stupid motherfucker?

    Of corse they didn’t want him anyway.😂😂😂😂

  • DJDuck
    DJDuck Member Posts: 5,970
    edited July 2019
    All our WR will have to compete for playing time. I think we have seven 4 star WR’s

    Bryan Addison

    Isaiah Crocker

    Juwan Johnson

    Jaylon Red

    Mycah Pittman

    Lance Wilhoite

    Josh Delgado

    Of course you guys didn’t want any of these guys. They are all trash. They don’t compare to the Husky receiving core.😂😂😂
  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735
    edited July 2019
    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    Johnny Wilson could gain another 15 pounds and still play out wide. He’s a sub 4.6 40 kid with a 4.25 shuttle. If the S&C staff want him to be explosive, he will be.

    4.59 at 224 pounds equals 4.7 at 240 pounds. Maybe 4.65 at best. He's a tweener.

    There is more to playing WR than speed tho. You have to be able to start and stop quickly, change direction smoothly, get in and out of brakes. He doesn't have that stuff. His film and route running are very basic. Just go routes and slants and posts. He'll never be good enough of a route runner to play WIDE receiver and be effective. He's a slot/flex TE guy but doesn't play as big as he is. He's a 50-50 ball guy. Not a consistent separation guy. He needs a specific role in an offense that minimizes his weaknesses which means putting him in the slot and trying to get mismatches against nickels, safeties, and linebackers.
    You’re also the one that thinks Sewell can’t play ILB. You catastrophize any event related to Oregon. The kid looks like he’s filled out and probably mostly maxed out. Also, he is not necessarily losing speed or agility if he adds weight.
    Sewell lost weight. Good for him. If he can continue to do so he could be a decent ILB in college. Old school run stuffer but not a heat seeking missile speedster with ridiculous closing speed. I'd take Jordan Banks over Sewell.

    Wilson is not "filled out". He's skinny and has a soft physique. He needs to gain strength and lean muscle mass. He's gonna be 240 rather easily. No reason to think he won't get slower as he gets bigger. He's not known for being all that explosive or fast. He's not Darrell Daniels coming out of high school. He's Brayden Lenius.

    My evaluation of Wilson has nothing to do with him being an Oregon lean. I said the same exact thing when he was a UW lean.
  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735
    edited July 2019
    DJDuck said:

    All our WR will have to compete for playing time. I think we have seven 4 star WR’s

    Bryan Addison

    Isaiah Crocker

    Juwan Johnson

    Jaylon Red

    Mycah Pittman

    Lance Wilhoite

    Josh Delgado

    Of course you guys didn’t want any of these guys. They are all trash. They don’t compare to the Husky receiving core.😂😂😂

    UW wanted Bryan Addison strictly as a safety. Pittman and Delgado were close to being UW takes but didn't make the cut. I don't think it's a coincidence that those two guys were offered and recruited by UW and have been Oregon's most impressive young WR's based on what I heard during Spring ball.
  • lawsandl
    lawsandl Member Posts: 1,555

    DJDuck said:

    All our WR will have to compete for playing time. I think we have seven 4 star WR’s

    Bryan Addison

    Isaiah Crocker

    Juwan Johnson

    Jaylon Red

    Mycah Pittman

    Lance Wilhoite

    Josh Delgado

    Of course you guys didn’t want any of these guys. They are all trash. They don’t compare to the Husky receiving core.😂😂😂

    UW wanted Bryan Addison strictly as a safety. Pittman and Delgado were close to being UW takes but didn't make the cut. I don't think it's a coincidence that those two guys were offered and recruited by UW and have been Oregon's most impressive young WR's.
    Jaron Waters is impressing a lot. Addison is as well.
  • DJDuck
    DJDuck Member Posts: 5,970

    DJDuck said:

    All our WR will have to compete for playing time. I think we have seven 4 star WR’s

    Bryan Addison

    Isaiah Crocker

    Juwan Johnson

    Jaylon Red

    Mycah Pittman

    Lance Wilhoite

    Josh Delgado

    Of course you guys didn’t want any of these guys. They are all trash. They don’t compare to the Husky receiving core.😂😂😂

    UW wanted Bryan Addison strictly as a safety. Pittman and Delgado were close to being UW takes but didn't make the cut. I don't think it's a coincidence that those two guys were offered and recruited by UW and have been Oregon's most impressive young WR's based on what I heard during Spring ball.
    Yea you didn’t need them with the fantastic WR corps you have. 😂😂😂

  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735
    edited July 2019
    DJDuck said:

    DJDuck said:

    All our WR will have to compete for playing time. I think we have seven 4 star WR’s

    Bryan Addison

    Isaiah Crocker

    Juwan Johnson

    Jaylon Red

    Mycah Pittman

    Lance Wilhoite

    Josh Delgado

    Of course you guys didn’t want any of these guys. They are all trash. They don’t compare to the Husky receiving core.😂😂😂

    UW wanted Bryan Addison strictly as a safety. Pittman and Delgado were close to being UW takes but didn't make the cut. I don't think it's a coincidence that those two guys were offered and recruited by UW and have been Oregon's most impressive young WR's based on what I heard during Spring ball.
    Yea you didn’t need them with the fantastic WR corps you have. 😂😂😂

    It's not a nationally elite WR corps yet but it's certainly better than yours.
  • DJDuck
    DJDuck Member Posts: 5,970
    edited July 2019
    Ha ha ha ha ha you are a Delusional buffoon Brad. Your receivers wouldn’t se the field if they were Ducks. Tell me about your great receivers Brad. You need to have your own comedy tour.😂😂😂😁
  • lawsandl
    lawsandl Member Posts: 1,555
    edited July 2019

    DJDuck said:

    DJDuck said:

    All our WR will have to compete for playing time. I think we have seven 4 star WR’s

    Bryan Addison

    Isaiah Crocker

    Juwan Johnson

    Jaylon Red

    Mycah Pittman

    Lance Wilhoite

    Josh Delgado

    Of course you guys didn’t want any of these guys. They are all trash. They don’t compare to the Husky receiving core.😂😂😂

    UW wanted Bryan Addison strictly as a safety. Pittman and Delgado were close to being UW takes but didn't make the cut. I don't think it's a coincidence that those two guys were offered and recruited by UW and have been Oregon's most impressive young WR's based on what I heard during Spring ball.
    Yea you didn’t need them with the fantastic WR corps you have. 😂😂😂

    It's not a nationally elite WR corps yet but it's certainly better than yours.
    Wilson balled out today. He is not broad through the hips, ankles and shoulders to be a TE. Also, if he gains 15 pounds of muscle, it won’t inhibit his agility. The kid is a freak. Juwan Johnson plays WR at 235. You act like this is some kind of anomaly. What’s freakish is his testing at that size not his size.

    .
  • DJDuck
    DJDuck Member Posts: 5,970
    Make a case for your receivers being “certainly better” than Oregon’s Einstein. Tell us how great they are. You love stars. What about them. What about experience and high school awards. Lay it all out.
  • lawsandl
    lawsandl Member Posts: 1,555
    edited July 2019
    DJDuck said:

    Make a case for your receivers being “certainly better” than Oregon’s Einstein. Tell us how great they are. You love stars. What about them. What about experience and high school awards. Lay it all out.

    The case is that ours suck until they don’t. Their core is not great but Oregon’s was bad outside Mitchell.
  • DJDuck
    DJDuck Member Posts: 5,970
    edited July 2019
    That was last year laws Jaylon Redd and Juwan Johnson alone are better than theirs. JJ has experience as a starter for Penn State. I would say their receivers are mediocre at best. They have no where near the firepower we have coming in. Who is their “star” receiver?

    Do you think any of their receivers would start for Oregon this year.......I guess that is the bottom line?

    Johnson and Redd will be two of our starters. Their receivers would have to beat out our present receivers including a red shirting Addison and all the Freshmen coming in.