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Sam Presti appreciation thread

So, Mr.Charts and Graphs, Zach Lowe pointed this out on one of his pods yesterday, check out this series of transactions.

Magic acquire- Serge Ibaka

Thunder acquire- Victor Oladipo, Ersan Ilyasova, Domantas Sabonis

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Pacers acquire- Victor Oladipo, Domantas Sabonis

Thunder acquire- Paul George

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Clippers acquire- Paul George

Thunder acquire- 5 first round pick (4 unprotected), 2 first round pick swaps and SGA


I’ve chatted a lot of shit about Presti but he turned Ibaka into that Clippers package. That’s incredible.
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    So, Mr.Charts and Graphs, Zach Lowe pointed this out on one of his pods yesterday, check out this series of transactions.

    Magic acquire- Serge Ibaka

    Thunder acquire- Victor Oladipo, Ersan Ilyasova, Domantas Sabonis

    .

    Pacers acquire- Victor Oladipo, Domantas Sabonis

    Thunder acquire- Paul George

    .

    Clippers acquire- Paul George

    Thunder acquire- 5 first round pick (4 unprotected), 2 first round pick swaps and SGA


    I’ve chatted a lot of shit about Presti but he turned Ibaka into that Clippers package. That’s incredible.

    Until Westbrook leaves. And those first round picks should mostly all be late round.

    That being said. The string makes them maybe have a good team in 5 years if they draft well.
  • NEsnake12
    NEsnake12 Member Posts: 3,795
    Now all he needs to do is fire Billy Donovan
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    The thing with most of those picks is they will be out of the lottery ... which means they may lead to rotation players instead of Stars

    Only way they get stars is to bottom out and win the lottery ... Westbrook swapped w CP3 is the direction that I expect
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,726 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:

    The thing with most of those picks is they will be out of the lottery ... which means they may lead to rotation players instead of Stars

    Only way they get stars is to bottom out and win the lottery ... Westbrook swapped w CP3 is the direction that I expect

    Do you really think CP3 Will allow his final years to be spent in Oklahoma City mentoring young guys instead of chasing a ring?
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,127
    OKC has no use for Paul. I think the Heat will get Westbrook, but they don’t have much to offer either.
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,170 Standard Supporter
    Of all the teams interested in Westbrick, I like the Heat in this one. Riley gets shit done.
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,330

    OKC has no use for Paul. I think the Heat will get Westbrook, but they don’t have much to offer either.

    This isn’t about value for value. It’s Unloading one of the worst contracts in the league to save the owner millions and millions of dollars. Of course they want to get as many assets as possible but Westbrook has negative value. Get money off the books as soon as possible and get some draft picks.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,127
    edited July 2019

    OKC has no use for Paul. I think the Heat will get Westbrook, but they don’t have much to offer either.

    This isn’t about value for value. It’s Unloading one of the worst contracts in the league to save the owner millions and millions of dollars. Of course they want to get as many assets as possible but Westbrook has negative value. Get money off the books as soon as possible and get some draft picks.
    Chris Paul has a contract almost just as bad, is older, and will get less of a return.
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,330

    OKC has no use for Paul. I think the Heat will get Westbrook, but they don’t have much to offer either.

    This isn’t about value for value. It’s Unloading one of the worst contracts in the league to save the owner millions and millions of dollars. Of course they want to get as many assets as possible but Westbrook has negative value. Get money off the books as soon as possible and get some draft picks.
    Chris Paul has a contract almost just as bad, is older, and will get less of a return.
    Right. Just making the point that moving Westbrook is not a basketball move. It’s about mitigating the multiplier penalty on the luxury tax for a mediocre team. Even shaving a year off of that can make a huge difference financially.

    Cp3 is a brutal contract though.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    OKC has no use for Paul. I think the Heat will get Westbrook, but they don’t have much to offer either.

    This isn’t about value for value. It’s Unloading one of the worst contracts in the league to save the owner millions and millions of dollars. Of course they want to get as many assets as possible but Westbrook has negative value. Get money off the books as soon as possible and get some draft picks.
    Fuck the ownership of the Thunder. Hoping Clay Bennett goes full Aubrey McClendon and DIAFF.

    I knew we could find more common ground than just T&A.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    OKC has no use for Paul. I think the Heat will get Westbrook, but they don’t have much to offer either.

    This isn’t about value for value. It’s Unloading one of the worst contracts in the league to save the owner millions and millions of dollars. Of course they want to get as many assets as possible but Westbrook has negative value. Get money off the books as soon as possible and get some draft picks.
    Chris Paul has a contract almost just as bad, is older, and will get less of a return.
    Right. Just making the point that moving Westbrook is not a basketball move. It’s about mitigating the multiplier penalty on the luxury tax for a mediocre team. Even shaving a year off of that can make a huge difference financially.

    Cp3 is a brutal contract though.
    Exactly why NBA in OKC is fucktarded. Imagine if Ballmer had the team in Seattle. He would have kept harden with Westbrook and Durant. And hopefully would have been smart enough to kick Westbrook to the curb and keep Durant when that time came.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    Houston’s going to do everything possible to move CP3 and the contracts match up

    The problem for Miami in a deal is I’m not sure what assets that they have to move in a deal because I don’t expect OKC to want players that they can’t flip for picks and Miami already moved out near term picks to clear room for Butler
  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    OKC just acquired another first rounder for Grant. Just a crazy amount of draft capital coming down the pipe for them.
  • bigcc
    bigcc Member Posts: 900
    Hope they blow every single pick, fuck okc
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    GDS said:

    OKC just acquired another first rounder for Grant. Just a crazy amount of draft capital coming down the pipe for them.

    They acquired a mid 20s pick ... ain’t worth much

    This is a salary dump
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,170 Standard Supporter

    Of all the teams interested in Westbrick, I like the Heat in this one. Riley gets shit done.

    Riley gets it done within a week. Cook it!

    https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27149359/westbrook-eyes-okc-exit-likes-miami
  • FreeChavez
    FreeChavez Member Posts: 3,223
    edited July 2019

    OKC has no use for Paul. I think the Heat will get Westbrook, but they don’t have much to offer either.

    This isn’t about value for value. It’s Unloading one of the worst contracts in the league to save the owner millions and millions of dollars. Of course they want to get as many assets as possible but Westbrook has negative value. Get money off the books as soon as possible and get some draft picks.
    Fuck the ownership of the Thunder. Hoping Clay Bennett goes full Aubrey McClendon and DIAFF.

    Fair to say i read this fully @Swaye (fuck you, yes it’s Monday, it’s been a long week)....so i agree if that’s the guy who ran himself into an overpass because of karma moving from Seattle. It’s okay to have someone make you drive a Tahoe into a concrete wall, hell yes. If that wasn’t him, thoughts and prayers and can we move my response to some stupid political/religious board this monarchy employs.

    Sam has yet to build shit other than ridding himseld of two of the best players in the nba and locking up the worst to literally the worst contract in the nba sans the guy who’s injured(wall). The billy beans nba rub fest is soooooo old

    Where’s the Tylenol......
  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,114
    Tequilla said:

    The thing with most of those picks is they will be out of the lottery ... which means they may lead to rotation players instead of Stars

    Only way they get stars is to bottom out and win the lottery ... Westbrook swapped w CP3 is the direction that I expect

    How will okc bottoming out affect the picks they are getting from the clippers??

  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    ntxduck said:

    Tequilla said:

    The thing with most of those picks is they will be out of the lottery ... which means they may lead to rotation players instead of Stars

    Only way they get stars is to bottom out and win the lottery ... Westbrook swapped w CP3 is the direction that I expect

    How will okc bottoming out affect the picks they are getting from the clippers??

    They still have their own picks
  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,114
    dnc said:

    ntxduck said:

    Tequilla said:

    The thing with most of those picks is they will be out of the lottery ... which means they may lead to rotation players instead of Stars

    Only way they get stars is to bottom out and win the lottery ... Westbrook swapped w CP3 is the direction that I expect

    How will okc bottoming out affect the picks they are getting from the clippers??

    They still have their own picks
    Teq fs was referencing the clippers picks though.
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,330
    GDS said:

    OKC just acquired another first rounder for Grant. Just a crazy amount of draft capital coming down the pipe for them.

    This trade was actually a shit trade for them. Grant is a good role player on a decent contract. That pick gets lower by sending him to Denver most likely. The chance they get someone as good as grant with this pick is slim to none. This was the owner saying save me money and I don't care who you trade.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    ntxduck said:

    dnc said:

    ntxduck said:

    Tequilla said:

    The thing with most of those picks is they will be out of the lottery ... which means they may lead to rotation players instead of Stars

    Only way they get stars is to bottom out and win the lottery ... Westbrook swapped w CP3 is the direction that I expect

    How will okc bottoming out affect the picks they are getting from the clippers??

    They still have their own picks
    Teq fs was referencing the clippers picks though.
    I didn't read it that way. He said they aren't getting stars with the OKC picks, then said the only way to get stars is to bottom out.

    It could have been stated more clearly but I support Teq brevity.
  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,114
    dnc said:

    ntxduck said:

    dnc said:

    ntxduck said:

    Tequilla said:

    The thing with most of those picks is they will be out of the lottery ... which means they may lead to rotation players instead of Stars

    Only way they get stars is to bottom out and win the lottery ... Westbrook swapped w CP3 is the direction that I expect

    How will okc bottoming out affect the picks they are getting from the clippers??

    They still have their own picks
    Teq fs was referencing the clippers picks though.
    I didn't read it that way. He said they aren't getting stars with the OKC picks, then said the only way to get stars is to bottom out.

    It could have been stated more clearly but I support Teq brevity.
    True!
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    ntxduck said:

    Tequilla said:

    The thing with most of those picks is they will be out of the lottery ... which means they may lead to rotation players instead of Stars

    Only way they get stars is to bottom out and win the lottery ... Westbrook swapped w CP3 is the direction that I expect

    How will okc bottoming out affect the picks they are getting from the clippers??

    Zero impact at all ... there’s a reason OKC pushes the picks from Houston so far down the road
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    dnc said:

    ntxduck said:

    dnc said:

    ntxduck said:

    Tequilla said:

    The thing with most of those picks is they will be out of the lottery ... which means they may lead to rotation players instead of Stars

    Only way they get stars is to bottom out and win the lottery ... Westbrook swapped w CP3 is the direction that I expect

    How will okc bottoming out affect the picks they are getting from the clippers??

    They still have their own picks
    Teq fs was referencing the clippers picks though.
    I didn't read it that way. He said they aren't getting stars with the OKC picks, then said the only way to get stars is to bottom out.

    It could have been stated more clearly but I support Teq brevity.
    Reading comprehension

    The LAC picks will mostly be back half of the first round picks ... they are assets but really mediocre ones

    OKC is betting on both the Clippers and Rockets bottoming out in 4-6 years ... if they do they will be in great shape

    If they don’t, it’s largely a poo poo platter
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    Tequilla said:

    dnc said:

    ntxduck said:

    dnc said:

    ntxduck said:

    Tequilla said:

    The thing with most of those picks is they will be out of the lottery ... which means they may lead to rotation players instead of Stars

    Only way they get stars is to bottom out and win the lottery ... Westbrook swapped w CP3 is the direction that I expect

    How will okc bottoming out affect the picks they are getting from the clippers??

    They still have their own picks
    Teq fs was referencing the clippers picks though.
    I didn't read it that way. He said they aren't getting stars with the OKC picks, then said the only way to get stars is to bottom out.

    It could have been stated more clearly but I support Teq brevity.
    Reading comprehension

    The LAC picks will mostly be back half of the first round picks ... they are assets but really mediocre ones

    OKC is betting on both the Clippers and Rockets bottoming out in 4-6 years ... if they do they will be in great shape

    If they don’t, it’s largely a poo poo platter
    Kawhi signed a 2 year contract with a player option for the third year. The first Clippers pick doesn’t come until 2022. You have no idea where those picks will be.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    Kawhi likely isn’t going anywhere

    He signed that length/term to coincide with PG13 and ensure that the Clippers continually made moves to stay competitive

    Pay attention