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  • HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,997
    2001400ex said:

    It's those journalists and politicians telling you that data is fixed to make the 30s look cooler. HTH
    Huh? Its published raw data.

    God you are a fucking moron...
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Yeah...raw data of daily and monthly average US temperatures is confusing for a burger flipper...

    HondoFS...
    You are still confusing weather with climate. Nice work.
  • GwadGwad Member Posts: 2,855
    edited July 2019
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 110,505 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    You are still confusing weather with climate. Nice work.
    Talking point

    And hondo has no idea what it even means
  • GwadGwad Member Posts: 2,855
    edited July 2019
    How 10 year average global temperature compares to 1851 to 1900 average global temperature



  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 35,787 Standard Supporter

    Yes, facts backed up by research and evidence are exactly the same as religion.

    Not when you exclude data that doesn't fit your predetermined outcome. That's not science it's "I want the grant money to keep coming".
  • GwadGwad Member Posts: 2,855
    WHATS THE TREND WITH THESE GRAPHS? I got gold stars for the Tug Tavern kinder with the right answer.
  • HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,997
    edited July 2019
    This one is one I love the most...pretty much all the measurement points that go back any meaningful amount of time are in the US. So for at least a while before they decided to just change the historical data they were on the 'the US hasn't been warming but the Global Temperatures have'. Its an easy claim when there are no data sets...you just write a computer "model" that says what you want it to and make all sorts of pretty pictures.


  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Gwad said:

    WHATS THE TREND WITH THESE GRAPHS? I got gold stars for the Tug Tavern kinder with the right answer.

    But scientists around the world are paid to do their job and prove that climate change is real man.
  • HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,997
    And the historical US temperatures before they really started to alter them...




  • BendintheriverBendintheriver Member Posts: 6,578 Standard Supporter
    Gwad said:

    WHATS THE TREND WITH THESE GRAPHS? I got gold stars for the Tug Tavern kinder with the right answer.

    Kind of curious where you got the "graphs".
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    And the historical US temperatures before they really started to alter them...




    Do you know the difference between the US and the world? Seriously you are a dumb motherfucker.
  • HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,997
    2001400ex said:

    Do you know the difference between the US and the world? Seriously you are a dumb motherfucker.
    Thank you for proving my point after I called it out. Only HondoFS could be that dumb.

    The world doesn't have temperature history data moron...you think Siberia, the Indian ocean, and all the desolate places where the "global temperature" has been warming have a bunch of temperature history stations that have been taking temps on a daily basis for the last 100 years?

    Meanwhile all the places that did cooled from the 1950s to 2000 according to NASA, or at least that was so until they started changing the historical data...
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 35,787 Standard Supporter
    edited July 2019
    2001400ex said:

    Do you know the difference between the US and the world? Seriously you are a dumb motherfucker.
    Turn off that flatop you are the cause of global warming!

    Odd the spread of solar coincides with recent temperature spikes. It's all those black solar cells now covering huge portions of the earth that are raising temperatures. Anyone can see that.

    Lying turdbag.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Thank you for proving my point after I called it out. Only HondoFS could be that dumb.

    The world doesn't have temperature history data moron...you think Siberia, the Indian ocean, and all the desolate places where the "global temperature" has been warming have a bunch of temperature history stations that have been taking temps on a daily basis for the last 100 years?

    Meanwhile all the places that did cooled from the 1950s to 2000 according to NASA, or at least that was so until they started changing the historical data...
    Provide support for your last paragraph.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 22,669

    So your argument here is really not anything based on facts. Did I get that right? We know from me, others on here, the internet, etc, that there was liberal hysteria and "scientific proof" that there was a great deep freeze predicted and preached to the country in the late 60's and 70's but somehow you claim that there wasn't.

    Got it.

    For anyone who is interested, below is a short list of headlines that cite many pieces of "scientific research" from those great liberal "scientific" minds who claimed there was an oncoming Ice Age. You can either read them and educate yourself or you can do the liberal thing on here and deny the truth. As you can see these articles are from some of the most Conservative of sources such as the NY Times, WAPO, The Trib, LA Times, etc.

    HH claims the great deep freeze was not on anyone's "radar". Clearly it was.

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/03/01/global-cooling-compilation/

    1970 – Colder Winters Held Dawn of New Ice Age – Scientists See Ice Age In the Future (The Washington Post, January 11, 1970)

    1970 – Is Mankind Manufacturing a New Ice Age for Itself? (L.A. Times, January 15, 1970)

    1970 – New Ice Age May Descend On Man (Sumter Daily Item, January 26, 1970)

    1970 – Pollution Prospect A Chilling One (Owosso Argus-Press, January 26, 1970)

    1970 – Pollution’s 2-way ‘Freeze’ On Society (Middlesboro Daily News, January 28, 1970)

    1970 – Cold Facts About Pollution (The Southeast Missourian, January 29, 1970)

    1970 – Pollution Could Cause Ice Age, Agency Reports (St. Petersburg Times, March 4, 1970)

    1970 – Pollution Called Ice Age Threat (St. Petersburg Times, June 26, 1970)

    1970 – Dirt Will .Bring New Ice Age (The Sydney Morning Herald, October 19, 1970)

    1971 – Ice Age Refugee Dies Underground (The Montreal Gazette, Febuary 17, 1971)

    1971 – U.S. Scientist Sees New Ice Age Coming (The Washington Post, July 9, 1971)

    1971 – Ice Age Around the Corner (Chicago Tribune, July 10, 1971)

    1971 – New Ice Age Coming – It’s Already Getting Colder (L.A. Times, October 24, 1971)

    1971 – Another Ice Age? Pollution Blocking Sunlight (The Day, November 1, 1971)

    1971 – Air Pollution Could Bring An Ice Age (Harlan Daily Enterprise, November 4, 1971)

    1972 – Air pollution may cause ice age (Free-Lance Star, February 3, 1972)

    1972 – Scientist Says New ice Age Coming (The Ledger, February 13, 1972)

    1972 – Scientist predicts new ice age (Free-Lance Star, September 11, 1972)

    1972 – British expert on Climate Change says Says New Ice Age Creeping Over Northern Hemisphere (Lewiston Evening Journal, September 11, 1972)

    1972 – Climate Seen Cooling For Return Of Ice Age (Portsmouth Times, ‎September 11, 1972‎)

    1972 – New Ice Age Slipping Over North (Press-Courier, September 11, 1972)

    1972 – Ice Age Begins A New Assault In North (The Age, September 12, 1972)

    1972 – Weather To Get Colder (Montreal Gazette, ‎September 12, 1972‎)

    1972 – British climate expert predicts new Ice Age (The Christian Science Monitor, September 23, 1972)

    1972 – Scientist Sees Chilling Signs of New Ice Age (L.A. Times, September 24, 1972)

    1972 – Science: Another Ice Age? (Time Magazine, November 13, 1972)

    1973 – The Ice Age Cometh (The Saturday Review, March 24, 1973)

    1973 – Weather-watchers think another ice age may be on the way (The Christian Science Monitor, December 11, 1973)

    1974 – New evidence indicates ice age here (Eugene Register-Guard, May 29, 1974)

    1974 – Another Ice Age? (Time Magazine, June 24, 1974)

    1974 – 2 Scientists Think ‘Little’ Ice Age Near (The Hartford Courant, August 11, 1974)

    1974 – Ice Age, worse food crisis seen (The Chicago Tribune, October 30, 1974)

    1974 – Believes Pollution Could Bring On Ice Age (Ludington Daily News, December 4, 1974)

    1974 – Pollution Could Spur Ice Age, Nasa Says (Beaver Country Times, ‎December 4, 1974‎)

    1974 – Air Pollution May Trigger Ice Age, Scientists Feel (The Telegraph, ‎December 5, 1974‎)

    1974 – More Air Pollution Could Trigger Ice Age Disaster (Daily Sentinel – ‎December 5, 1974‎)

    1974 – Scientists Fear Smog Could Cause Ice Age (Milwaukee Journal, December 5, 1974)

    1975 – Climate Changes Called Ominous (The New York Times, January 19, 1975)

    1975 – Climate Change: Chilling Possibilities (Science News, March 1, 1975)

    1975 – B-r-r-r-r: New Ice Age on way soon? (The Chicago Tribune, March 2, 1975)

    1975 – Cooling Trends Arouse Fear That New Ice Age Coming (Eugene Register-Guard, ‎March 2, 1975‎)

    1975 – Is Another Ice Age Due? Arctic Ice Expands In Last Decade (Youngstown Vindicator – ‎March 2, 1975‎)

    1975 – Is Earth Headed For Another Ice Age? (Reading Eagle, March 2, 1975)

    1975 – New Ice Age Dawning? Significant Shift In Climate Seen (Times Daily, ‎March 2, 1975‎)

    1975 – There’s Troublesome Weather Ahead (Tri City Herald, ‎March 2, 1975‎)

    1975 – Is Earth Doomed To Live Through Another Ice Age? (The Robesonian, ‎March 3, 1975‎)

    1975 – The Ice Age cometh: the system that controls our climate (The Chicago Tribune, April 13, 1975)

    1975 – The Cooling World (Newsweek, April 28, 1975)

    1975 – Scientists Ask Why World Climate Is Changing; Major Cooling May Be Ahead (PDF) (The New York Times, May 21, 1975)

    1975 – In the Grip of a New Ice Age? (International Wildlife, July-August, 1975)

    1975 – Oil Spill Could Cause New Ice Age (Milwaukee Journal, December 11, 1975)

    1976 – The Cooling: Has the Next Ice Age Already Begun? [Book] (Lowell Ponte, 1976)

    1977 – Blizzard – What Happens if it Doesn’t Stop? [Book] (George Stone, 1977)

    1977 – The Weather Conspiracy: The Coming of the New Ice Age [Book] (The Impact Team, 1977)

    1976 – Worrisome CIA Report; Even U.S. Farms May be Hit by Cooling Trend (U.S. News & World Report, May 31, 1976)

    1977 – The Big Freeze (Time Magazine, January 31, 1977)

    1977 – We Will Freeze in the Dark (Capital Cities Communications Documentary, Host: Nancy Dickerson, April 12, 1977)

    1978 – The New Ice Age [Book] (Henry Gilfond, 1978)

    1978 – Little Ice Age: Severe winters and cool summers ahead (Calgary Herald, January 10, 1978)

    1978 – Winters Will Get Colder, ‘we’re Entering Little Ice Age’ (Ellensburg Daily Record, January 10, 1978)

    1978 – Geologist Says Winters Getting Colder (Middlesboro Daily News, January 16, 1978)

    1978 – It’s Going To Get Colder (Boca Raton News, ‎January 17, 1978‎)

    1978 – Believe new ice age is coming (The Bryan Times, March 31, 1978)

    1978 – The Coming Ice Age (In Search Of TV Show, Season 2, Episode 23, Host: Leonard Nimoy, May 1978)

    1978 – An Ice Age Is Coming Weather Expert Fears (Milwaukee Sentinel, November 17, 1978)

    1979 – A Choice of Catastrophes – The Disasters That Threaten Our World [Book] (Isaac Asimov, 1979)

    1979 – Get Ready to Freeze (Spokane Daily Chronicle, October 12, 1979)

    1979 – New ice age almost upon us? (The Christian Science Monitor, November 14, 1979)

    * A couple of the news stories are duplicates in different papers with slightly different titles, this is intentional to show that these types of stories were not isolated to a certain regional paper.
    And from the National Center for Atmospheric Research:





    Cool list bro, but even in the 1970s these were against the run of play. The warming effects of CO2 were noted in the 19th Century and by the late 1950s the scientific literature was overwhelmingly predicting global warming over the long run.
  • HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,997
    2001400ex said:

    Provide support for your last paragraph.
    Which part?

    NASA changes global data as well?
    Iceland:

    Paraguay:


    "Global warming" occurred in isolated areas where there is no real historical data?

    (I especially like how they carved out Anchorage as magically not warming at all but all the area around it (where there is no actual data) severely warmed...

    Where the weather stations really are?:



    Look...you can believe whatever you want on GW...I could care less. But its a religion and a feeling...the underlying data that actually exists and hasn't been tampered with doesn't back it up. You can link to all the Wikipedia and YouTube videos you want...doesn't change that simple fact.

    Maybe you should found a new church and have a bunch of people attend with you on Sunday morning and you can preach to them about it. The original article should provide you a few parishioners...



  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Which part?

    NASA changes global data as well?
    Iceland:

    Paraguay:


    "Global warming" occurred in isolated areas where there is no real historical data?

    (I especially like how they carved out Anchorage as magically not warming at all but all the area around it (where there is no actual data) severely warmed...

    Where the weather stations really are?:



    Look...you can believe whatever you want on GW...I could care less. But its a religion and a feeling...the underlying data that actually exists and hasn't been tampered with doesn't back it up. You can link to all the Wikipedia and YouTube videos you want...doesn't change that simple fact.

    Maybe you should found a new church and have a bunch of people attend with you on Sunday morning and you can preach to them about it. The original article should provide you a few parishioners...



    Steven Goddard is your source?
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 110,505 Founders Club
    Those 1830 weather stations were awesome
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