Add to that the 1930s were WAY warmer than it is now...that's why they have to keep changing the historical data to hide it.
Its all "facts" and "truth" until it falls apart, just like all the studies showing global cooling in the 1970s...i.e. the upcoming Ice Age, just like Hansen's models in the 1980s that have failed spectacularly in linking "global temperature" to CO2, just like Mann's fraudulent hockey stick in the 1990s that got debunked for using shitty statistics and selective data, just like all the studies Gores cited saying the ice caps were going to melt in 10 years in the 2000s. But I'm sure this batch of mentally ill (according to David Corn) scientists will be different.
As a point of reference...in 1936 this week it was over a 100 F across most of the country and got over 110 F across most of the Midwest even up into Canada. You can say it is out of context, but you can use simple measures such as the numbers of days a year cities like Chicago have gotten over 90 F to see that the 1930s were WAY, WAY hotter than it is today in the United States.
The year 1934 was a very hot year in the United States, ranking sixth behind 2012, 2016, 2015, 2006, and 1998. However, global warming takes into account temperatures over the entire planet, including the oceans. The land area of the U.S. accounts for only 2% of Earth's total surface area. Despite the U.S. sweltering in 1934, that year was not especially hot over the rest of the planet, as you can see on the 1934 map below. Globally, 1934 temperatures were actually cooler than average for the 20th century.
But hey....it was really hot on July 9th 1936 in shitdickville so no way climate change is real...jfc
Its amazing how much cooler the 1930s got between 1980 and the data today. One could say it was almost magic...
Or one could look at the actual raw data and see how the average US temperature was much hotter in the 1930s than it was today. Simple fact. It is why it needs to get "corrected" by scientists. And who wouldn't trust scientists like the mentally ill ones at the beginning of this thread that can't sleep at night or get out of bed because of people like Trump and their religious belief of the world collapsing in 10 years along with their economic livelihood (i.e. grant money) to accurately and unbiasedly modify the data in a scientific manner.
Like I said, I'm sure this round of climate scientists will be so much more accurate than the last 50 years have been in getting things right...
It's those journalists and politicians telling you that data is fixed to make the 30s look cooler. HTH
Every time one of these threads shows up. It amazes me how many people trust journalists and politicians over scientists who study the climate for a living.
I find it amazing that somehow, someway someone out there is stupid enough to think those two concepts are linked.
From the dude who just confused weather with climate.
Yeah...raw data of daily and monthly average US temperatures is confusing for a burger flipper...
HondoFS...
You are still confusing weather with climate. Nice work.
Every time one of these threads shows up. It amazes me how many people trust journalists and politicians over scientists who study the climate for a living.
I find it amazing that somehow, someway someone out there is stupid enough to think those two concepts are linked.
From the dude who just confused weather with climate.
Yeah...raw data of daily and monthly average US temperatures is confusing for a burger flipper...
HondoFS...
You are still confusing weather with climate. Nice work.
This one is one I love the most...pretty much all the measurement points that go back any meaningful amount of time are in the US. So for at least a while before they decided to just change the historical data they were on the 'the US hasn't been warming but the Global Temperatures have'. Its an easy claim when there are no data sets...you just write a computer "model" that says what you want it to and make all sorts of pretty pictures.
And the historical US temperatures before they really started to alter them...
Do you know the difference between the US and the world? Seriously you are a dumb motherfucker.
Thank you for proving my point after I called it out. Only HondoFS could be that dumb.
The world doesn't have temperature history data moron...you think Siberia, the Indian ocean, and all the desolate places where the "global temperature" has been warming have a bunch of temperature history stations that have been taking temps on a daily basis for the last 100 years?
Meanwhile all the places that did cooled from the 1950s to 2000 according to NASA, or at least that was so until they started changing the historical data...
And the historical US temperatures before they really started to alter them...
Do you know the difference between the US and the world? Seriously you are a dumb motherfucker.
Turn off that flatop you are the cause of global warming!
Odd the spread of solar coincides with recent temperature spikes. It's all those black solar cells now covering huge portions of the earth that are raising temperatures. Anyone can see that.
And the historical US temperatures before they really started to alter them...
Do you know the difference between the US and the world? Seriously you are a dumb motherfucker.
Thank you for proving my point after I called it out. Only HondoFS could be that dumb.
The world doesn't have temperature history data moron...you think Siberia, the Indian ocean, and all the desolate places where the "global temperature" has been warming have a bunch of temperature history stations that have been taking temps on a daily basis for the last 100 years?
Meanwhile all the places that did cooled from the 1950s to 2000 according to NASA, or at least that was so until they started changing the historical data...
Anyone claiming there was some sustained concern that the earth was getting too cold in the 1970s is just lying or off his rocker. This shrill denial of science over what basically amounts to one magazine cover, circa 1972, is sort of pathetic.
It's reasonable to argue about what we do or even whether we do anything about climate change. Denying it's happening requires a conspiratard stupidity.
Bullshit. They had us writing letters to pen pals in Colombia because that is where we were all going to be moving in 15 years to be close to the equator. This was 1970-74 (this is grade school for me) and we were all going to starve to death before we all froze to death. We had one hour a day dedicated to global freezing and discussions about how we would survive. The 45 degree angled electric cars were the future and there were 2 different dealerships in Beaverton OR throughout the 70's. Any adult who suggested that there was no deep freeze headed our way were shouted down by the brilliant liberal elites.
I don't know where you were living but where I was it was complete indoctrination and it was dumbass liberals who shoved that bullshit down everyone's throat.
Really? Anyone else spend five years planning a move to Ecuador? I was in school during those years and I’m calling bullshit. This wasn’t on anyone’s radar. Head injury?
So your argument here is really not anything based on facts. Did I get that right? We know from me, others on here, the internet, etc, that there was liberal hysteria and "scientific proof" that there was a great deep freeze predicted and preached to the country in the late 60's and 70's but somehow you claim that there wasn't.
Got it.
For anyone who is interested, below is a short list of headlines that cite many pieces of "scientific research" from those great liberal "scientific" minds who claimed there was an oncoming Ice Age. You can either read them and educate yourself or you can do the liberal thing on here and deny the truth. As you can see these articles are from some of the most Conservative of sources such as the NY Times, WAPO, The Trib, LA Times, etc.
HH claims the great deep freeze was not on anyone's "radar". Clearly it was.
1978 – It’s Going To Get Colder (Boca Raton News, January 17, 1978)
1978 – Believe new ice age is coming (The Bryan Times, March 31, 1978)
1978 – The Coming Ice Age (In Search Of TV Show, Season 2, Episode 23, Host: Leonard Nimoy, May 1978)
1978 – An Ice Age Is Coming Weather Expert Fears (Milwaukee Sentinel, November 17, 1978)
1979 – A Choice of Catastrophes – The Disasters That Threaten Our World [Book] (Isaac Asimov, 1979)
1979 – Get Ready to Freeze (Spokane Daily Chronicle, October 12, 1979)
1979 – New ice age almost upon us? (The Christian Science Monitor, November 14, 1979)
* A couple of the news stories are duplicates in different papers with slightly different titles, this is intentional to show that these types of stories were not isolated to a certain regional paper. And from the National Center for Atmospheric Research:
Cool list bro, but even in the 1970s these were against the run of play. The warming effects of CO2 were noted in the 19th Century and by the late 1950s the scientific literature was overwhelmingly predicting global warming over the long run.
And the historical US temperatures before they really started to alter them...
Do you know the difference between the US and the world? Seriously you are a dumb motherfucker.
Thank you for proving my point after I called it out. Only HondoFS could be that dumb.
The world doesn't have temperature history data moron...you think Siberia, the Indian ocean, and all the desolate places where the "global temperature" has been warming have a bunch of temperature history stations that have been taking temps on a daily basis for the last 100 years?
Meanwhile all the places that did cooled from the 1950s to 2000 according to NASA, or at least that was so until they started changing the historical data...
Provide support for your last paragraph.
Which part?
NASA changes global data as well? Iceland: Paraguay:
"Global warming" occurred in isolated areas where there is no real historical data? (I especially like how they carved out Anchorage as magically not warming at all but all the area around it (where there is no actual data) severely warmed...
Where the weather stations really are?:
Look...you can believe whatever you want on GW...I could care less. But its a religion and a feeling...the underlying data that actually exists and hasn't been tampered with doesn't back it up. You can link to all the Wikipedia and YouTube videos you want...doesn't change that simple fact.
Maybe you should found a new church and have a bunch of people attend with you on Sunday morning and you can preach to them about it. The original article should provide you a few parishioners...
And the historical US temperatures before they really started to alter them...
Do you know the difference between the US and the world? Seriously you are a dumb motherfucker.
Thank you for proving my point after I called it out. Only HondoFS could be that dumb.
The world doesn't have temperature history data moron...you think Siberia, the Indian ocean, and all the desolate places where the "global temperature" has been warming have a bunch of temperature history stations that have been taking temps on a daily basis for the last 100 years?
Meanwhile all the places that did cooled from the 1950s to 2000 according to NASA, or at least that was so until they started changing the historical data...
Provide support for your last paragraph.
Which part?
NASA changes global data as well? Iceland: Paraguay:
"Global warming" occurred in isolated areas where there is no real historical data? (I especially like how they carved out Anchorage as magically not warming at all but all the area around it (where there is no actual data) severely warmed...
Where the weather stations really are?:
Look...you can believe whatever you want on GW...I could care less. But its a religion and a feeling...the underlying data that actually exists and hasn't been tampered with doesn't back it up. You can link to all the Wikipedia and YouTube videos you want...doesn't change that simple fact.
Maybe you should found a new church and have a bunch of people attend with you on Sunday morning and you can preach to them about it. The original article should provide you a few parishioners...
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God you are a fucking moron...
And hondo has no idea what it even means
The world doesn't have temperature history data moron...you think Siberia, the Indian ocean, and all the desolate places where the "global temperature" has been warming have a bunch of temperature history stations that have been taking temps on a daily basis for the last 100 years?
Meanwhile all the places that did cooled from the 1950s to 2000 according to NASA, or at least that was so until they started changing the historical data...
Odd the spread of solar coincides with recent temperature spikes. It's all those black solar cells now covering huge portions of the earth that are raising temperatures. Anyone can see that.
Lying turdbag.
NASA changes global data as well?
Iceland:
Paraguay:
"Global warming" occurred in isolated areas where there is no real historical data?
(I especially like how they carved out Anchorage as magically not warming at all but all the area around it (where there is no actual data) severely warmed...
Where the weather stations really are?:
Look...you can believe whatever you want on GW...I could care less. But its a religion and a feeling...the underlying data that actually exists and hasn't been tampered with doesn't back it up. You can link to all the Wikipedia and YouTube videos you want...doesn't change that simple fact.
Maybe you should found a new church and have a bunch of people attend with you on Sunday morning and you can preach to them about it. The original article should provide you a few parishioners...