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  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,224 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    What you are doing hondo is avoiding the inconvenient facts. I get it, everyone gets it. We all understand what you are doing. You are pivoting because you don't like the results of the previous discussion.

    I chuckle when you say I'm avoiding facts. When you avoid these two important facts:

    1) the last 15 years are the warmest in recorded history with record warming growth.

    2) 90+ percent of the world's scientists, you know, people who study this for a living, agree that there has been global warming the last 40 years.

    HTH but I know it won't. You trust journalists and politicians to deliver science to you.
    OK I will play along because I like to make liberals look like idiots.

    First of all there is no 90%+ consensus of the worlds "scientists". That has been debunked a 1000 times but for non-thinking followers like you, it is too convenient to lie about that number than research the truth.

    Secondly, the last 15 years did not see "record warming growth". For the most of the last 15 years it either paused or cooled. It has gone up again but this is what weather has done since the earth was created. It changes.

    45 years ago we were all going to freeze to death.
    20 years ago we were all going to be underwater right now. Arizona was going to finally have that beach front property and FL was going to be half its current size.
    Tornadoes and hurricanes were going to be happening non-stop, mass destruction, all over the planet.
    Starvation was going to be the norm by 2020.
    According to that brilliant "scientist" AOC we are supposed to all be dead in 11.4 years.
    Your "scientists" ignored the fact that the temperature was actually cooling for the better part of a decade.
    Temperature reading data stations were located on concrete blocks on hot asphalt for crying out loud.
    The hockey stick lie was debunked.

    I mean how many examples you want me to give you regarding your "scientific" prognostications that are laughable 50, 40, 20, 10 and 5 years later? The shit just isn't true. You have been lied to but you just keep on believing the prognosticators with stories that never come true.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,996 Standard Supporter
    We had an ice age 12,000 years ago. Then the earth heated up. All without any man made CO2 emissions. There are 4 molecules of CO2 in every 1000 atoms and molecules in the atmosphere. CO2 is a low level green house gas compared to say water vapor or methane. CO2 is also a saturated green house gas. Double the CO2 and you don't get double the infrared absorption. The green gaia religionists can't tell us how much to spend and what it will accomplish. They don't care. They just want the money and the power. The two best current solutions are nukes and natural gas. They oppose both solutions. That's called fanaticism, not science.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,021
    Add to that the 1930s were WAY warmer than it is now...that's why they have to keep changing the historical data to hide it.

    Its all "facts" and "truth" until it falls apart, just like all the studies showing global cooling in the 1970s...i.e. the upcoming Ice Age, just like Hansen's models in the 1980s that have failed spectacularly in linking "global temperature" to CO2, just like Mann's fraudulent hockey stick in the 1990s that got debunked for using shitty statistics and selective data, just like all the studies Gores cited saying the ice caps were going to melt in 10 years in the 2000s. But I'm sure this batch of mentally ill (according to David Corn) scientists will be different.

    As a point of reference...in 1936 this week it was over a 100 F across most of the country and got over 110 F across most of the Midwest even up into Canada. You can say it is out of context, but you can use simple measures such as the numbers of days a year cities like Chicago have gotten over 90 F to see that the 1930s were WAY, WAY hotter than it is today in the United States.

  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,021
    2001400ex said:

    Every time one of these threads shows up. It amazes me how many people trust journalists and politicians over scientists who study the climate for a living.

    I find it amazing that somehow, someway someone out there is stupid enough to think those two concepts are linked.
  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470

    Add to that the 1930s were WAY warmer than it is now...that's why they have to keep changing the historical data to hide it.

    Its all "facts" and "truth" until it falls apart, just like all the studies showing global cooling in the 1970s...i.e. the upcoming Ice Age, just like Hansen's models in the 1980s that have failed spectacularly in linking "global temperature" to CO2, just like Mann's fraudulent hockey stick in the 1990s that got debunked for using shitty statistics and selective data, just like all the studies Gores cited saying the ice caps were going to melt in 10 years in the 2000s. But I'm sure this batch of mentally ill (according to David Corn) scientists will be different.

    As a point of reference...in 1936 this week it was over a 100 F across most of the country and got over 110 F across most of the Midwest even up into Canada. You can say it is out of context, but you can use simple measures such as the numbers of days a year cities like Chicago have gotten over 90 F to see that the 1930s were WAY, WAY hotter than it is today in the United States.


    The year 1934 was a very hot year in the United States, ranking sixth behind 2012, 2016, 2015, 2006, and 1998. However, global warming takes into account temperatures over the entire planet, including the oceans. The land area of the U.S. accounts for only 2% of Earth's total surface area. Despite the U.S. sweltering in 1934, that year was not especially hot over the rest of the planet, as you can see on the 1934 map below. Globally, 1934 temperatures were actually cooler than average for the 20th century.

    But hey....it was really hot on July 9th 1936 in shitdickville so no way climate change is real...jfc
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,021
    GDS said:

    Add to that the 1930s were WAY warmer than it is now...that's why they have to keep changing the historical data to hide it.

    Its all "facts" and "truth" until it falls apart, just like all the studies showing global cooling in the 1970s...i.e. the upcoming Ice Age, just like Hansen's models in the 1980s that have failed spectacularly in linking "global temperature" to CO2, just like Mann's fraudulent hockey stick in the 1990s that got debunked for using shitty statistics and selective data, just like all the studies Gores cited saying the ice caps were going to melt in 10 years in the 2000s. But I'm sure this batch of mentally ill (according to David Corn) scientists will be different.

    As a point of reference...in 1936 this week it was over a 100 F across most of the country and got over 110 F across most of the Midwest even up into Canada. You can say it is out of context, but you can use simple measures such as the numbers of days a year cities like Chicago have gotten over 90 F to see that the 1930s were WAY, WAY hotter than it is today in the United States.


    The year 1934 was a very hot year in the United States, ranking sixth behind 2012, 2016, 2015, 2006, and 1998. However, global warming takes into account temperatures over the entire planet, including the oceans. The land area of the U.S. accounts for only 2% of Earth's total surface area. Despite the U.S. sweltering in 1934, that year was not especially hot over the rest of the planet, as you can see on the 1934 map below. Globally, 1934 temperatures were actually cooler than average for the 20th century.

    But hey....it was really hot on July 9th 1936 in shitdickville so no way climate change is real...jfc
    Its amazing how much cooler the 1930s got between 1980 and the data today. One could say it was almost magic...

    Or one could look at the actual raw data and see how the average US temperature was much hotter in the 1930s than it was today. Simple fact. It is why it needs to get "corrected" by scientists. And who wouldn't trust scientists like the mentally ill ones at the beginning of this thread that can't sleep at night or get out of bed because of people like Trump and their religious belief of the world collapsing in 10 years along with their economic livelihood (i.e. grant money) to accurately and unbiasedly modify the data in a scientific manner.

    Like I said, I'm sure this round of climate scientists will be so much more accurate than the last 50 years have been in getting things right...
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    Every time one of these threads shows up. It amazes me how many people trust journalists and politicians over scientists who study the climate for a living.

    I find it amazing that somehow, someway someone out there is stupid enough to think those two concepts are linked.
    From the dude who just confused weather with climate.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    GDS said:

    Add to that the 1930s were WAY warmer than it is now...that's why they have to keep changing the historical data to hide it.

    Its all "facts" and "truth" until it falls apart, just like all the studies showing global cooling in the 1970s...i.e. the upcoming Ice Age, just like Hansen's models in the 1980s that have failed spectacularly in linking "global temperature" to CO2, just like Mann's fraudulent hockey stick in the 1990s that got debunked for using shitty statistics and selective data, just like all the studies Gores cited saying the ice caps were going to melt in 10 years in the 2000s. But I'm sure this batch of mentally ill (according to David Corn) scientists will be different.

    As a point of reference...in 1936 this week it was over a 100 F across most of the country and got over 110 F across most of the Midwest even up into Canada. You can say it is out of context, but you can use simple measures such as the numbers of days a year cities like Chicago have gotten over 90 F to see that the 1930s were WAY, WAY hotter than it is today in the United States.


    The year 1934 was a very hot year in the United States, ranking sixth behind 2012, 2016, 2015, 2006, and 1998. However, global warming takes into account temperatures over the entire planet, including the oceans. The land area of the U.S. accounts for only 2% of Earth's total surface area. Despite the U.S. sweltering in 1934, that year was not especially hot over the rest of the planet, as you can see on the 1934 map below. Globally, 1934 temperatures were actually cooler than average for the 20th century.

    But hey....it was really hot on July 9th 1936 in shitdickville so no way climate change is real...jfc
    Its amazing how much cooler the 1930s got between 1980 and the data today. One could say it was almost magic...

    Or one could look at the actual raw data and see how the average US temperature was much hotter in the 1930s than it was today. Simple fact. It is why it needs to get "corrected" by scientists. And who wouldn't trust scientists like the mentally ill ones at the beginning of this thread that can't sleep at night or get out of bed because of people like Trump and their religious belief of the world collapsing in 10 years along with their economic livelihood (i.e. grant money) to accurately and unbiasedly modify the data in a scientific manner.

    Like I said, I'm sure this round of climate scientists will be so much more accurate than the last 50 years have been in getting things right...
    It's those journalists and politicians telling you that data is fixed to make the 30s look cooler. HTH
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    What you are doing hondo is avoiding the inconvenient facts. I get it, everyone gets it. We all understand what you are doing. You are pivoting because you don't like the results of the previous discussion.

    I chuckle when you say I'm avoiding facts. When you avoid these two important facts:

    1) the last 15 years are the warmest in recorded history with record warming growth.

    2) 90+ percent of the world's scientists, you know, people who study this for a living, agree that there has been global warming the last 40 years.

    HTH but I know it won't. You trust journalists and politicians to deliver science to you.
    OK I will play along because I like to make liberals look like idiots.

    First of all there is no 90%+ consensus of the worlds "scientists". That has been debunked a 1000 times but for non-thinking followers like you, it is too convenient to lie about that number than research the truth.

    Secondly, the last 15 years did not see "record warming growth". For the most of the last 15 years it either paused or cooled. It has gone up again but this is what weather has done since the earth was created. It changes.

    45 years ago we were all going to freeze to death.
    20 years ago we were all going to be underwater right now. Arizona was going to finally have that beach front property and FL was going to be half its current size.
    Tornadoes and hurricanes were going to be happening non-stop, mass destruction, all over the planet.
    Starvation was going to be the norm by 2020.
    According to that brilliant "scientist" AOC we are supposed to all be dead in 11.4 years.
    Your "scientists" ignored the fact that the temperature was actually cooling for the better part of a decade.
    Temperature reading data stations were located on concrete blocks on hot asphalt for crying out loud.
    The hockey stick lie was debunked.

    I mean how many examples you want me to give you regarding your "scientific" prognostications that are laughable 50, 40, 20, 10 and 5 years later? The shit just isn't true. You have been lied to but you just keep on believing the prognosticators with stories that never come true.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surveys_of_scientists'_views_on_climate_change
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,021
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Every time one of these threads shows up. It amazes me how many people trust journalists and politicians over scientists who study the climate for a living.

    I find it amazing that somehow, someway someone out there is stupid enough to think those two concepts are linked.
    From the dude who just confused weather with climate.
    Yeah...raw data of daily and monthly average US temperatures is confusing for a burger flipper...

    HondoFS...