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White Privilege

HFNY
HFNY Member Posts: 5,393
Anything I ever do, accomplish, or achieve is because I am white and / or privileged...or at least so I've been told.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    HFNY said:

    Anything I ever do, accomplish, or achieve is because I am white and / or privileged...and I feign feeling guilty about it but secretly love it.

    #whiteguilt

  • unfrozencaveman
    unfrozencaveman Member Posts: 2,303
    Ben Haggerty. Mixing rhymes of white guilt along w/ faggotry. This is popular in USA, no?
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,513
    This is only true if you are Macklemore
  • puppylove_sugarsteel
    puppylove_sugarsteel Member Posts: 9,133
    White poverty < all other poverty
  • Tailgater
    Tailgater Member Posts: 1,389
    HFNY said:

    Anything I ever do, accomplish, or achieve is because I am white and / or privileged...or at least so I've been told.

    What we are told these days by the clueless denizens of American myth is nothing more than antebellum. It's way past time for most of us to move on while we hurry and wait for the stupid and unwise to catch up riding the thread worn whitewalls they road in on.

  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,213
    edited February 2014

    Ben Haggerty. Mixing rhymes of white guilt along w/ faggotry. This is popular in USA, no?

    You're really fucking stupid if you think Macklemore's music is a product of white guilt.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,630 Standard Supporter
    There's probably something to it in rare cases, but 99% of the time the people whining about it ignore things like hard work, creativity, iniative etc. and focus on making everyone who fails a victim.

    I'm way more worried about income inequality and a lack of upward mobility.
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,393
    edited February 2014
    BINGO and with our Big Government Spending, ZIRP, and QE I-IV, it has juiced stocks, commercial real estate, residential real estate, and other real assets while working stiffs with few real assets see their purchasing power erode:

    confoundedinterest.wordpress.com/2014/02/06/backward-the-dying-american-middle-class-homeownership-and-housing-housing-affordability-keeps-dropping/

    As for White Privilege, I say it's loser talk and becomes a self-defeating prophecy for those who throw it around because it diminishes what a person who happens to be white achieves while it excuses away failure (or middling results) of those who happen to have more pigment in their skin.

    And is there anything such as "Asian-American Privilege" since they are wealthier, more educated, and less likely to be incarcerated than whites, blacks, or latinos? If not, how come? Is it because that doesn't fit the narrative of those who engage in loser talk and are sub-consciously racing to the bottom?

    There's probably something to it in rare cases, but 99% of the time the people whining about it ignore things like hard work, creativity, iniative etc. and focus on making everyone who fails a victim.

    I'm way more worried about income inequality and a lack of upward mobility.

  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    edited February 2014

    There's probably something to it in rare cases, but 99% of the time the people whining about it ignore things like hard work, creativity, iniative etc. and focus on making everyone who fails a victim.

    I'm way more worried about income inequality and a lack of upward mobility.

    Income inequality and upward mobility? You obviously majored in liberal arts. Holy fuckall
    I don't know what any of that means, so I'm with PL_SS on this one.

    And upvoted for Holy Fuckall...that shit is going in high rotation in my lexicon (unsure what that means also)
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,101
    I'm convinced that outside of small pockets of this country (and most of those pockets are generally insignificant in the grand scheme of things), race isn't an issue except to those that want to make it an (alleged) issue.

    It doesn't matter what your skin color is, what your religious beliefs are, or what your sexual orientation is. If you are willing to put in the work, make sacrifices along the way, and make your chosen path a significant enough priority in your life, you can achieve tremendous success.

    I see/hear a lot of comments about the unemployment rate. Has anybody ever stopped to think about why there is such unemployment?

    Many people coming out of undergraduate programs struggle to find jobs upon graduating. Has anybody ever stopped to think about what the underlying issues are with the job skills that are required by our professional environment versus the skills that most undergraduates have upon graduating?

    I read something the other day that the unemployment rate for those with Masters Degrees is in the neighborhood of 3% (even for those with TCU MBAs). Has anybody ever stopped to think why this class of worker is more desired upon our business community than other workers?

    We like to make a lot of excuses as a society. It's what drives a lot of these discussions. We like to make simplistic answers that point the finger. We hate as a society asking tough questions that demand tough answers. We don't necessarily like hearing the truth because it can be hurtful to many.

    The world is changing. The skill sets required to operate in this world are changing. If you don't have the skills to compete in that world, it's not like people are going to just give you a hand out because you are entitled to it. Not even Pat Haden is that fucking stupid.
  • Tailgater
    Tailgater Member Posts: 1,389
    Big government has to be the villain in every form of inequality and the gullibility of poverty escapism, since big money is never accountable for anything but slave waged jobs and disappearing benefits in exchange for honest labor. If you think white power is a problem in America, blame it on Obama.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited February 2014

    Ben Haggerty. Mixing rhymes of white guilt along w/ faggotry. This is popular in USA, no?

    You're really fucking stupid if you think Macklemore's music is a product of white guilt.
    It's noted you didn't comment in the faggotry.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    I'm holding out for Jew Privilege. Those fuckers having it going on. Even after being held in slavery and being the target of genocide..more than once.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,213
    edited February 2014

    Ben Haggerty. Mixing rhymes of white guilt along w/ faggotry. This is popular in USA, no?

    You're really fucking stupid if you think Macklemore's music is a product of white guilt.
    It's noted you didn't comment in the faggotry.
    Macklemore is a savvy businessman and realized the potential for a song about his uncle being gay during this whole fag rights era. The song blew up and he got himself some grammys and millions more dollars than you or I will see in our lifetimes. Good for him. Haters gonna hate.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:

    I'm convinced that outside of small pockets of this country (and most of those pockets are generally insignificant in the grand scheme of things), race isn't an issue except to those that want to make it an (alleged) issue.

    It doesn't matter what your skin color is, what your religious beliefs are, or what your sexual orientation is. If you are willing to put in the work, make sacrifices along the way, and make your chosen path a significant enough priority in your life, you can achieve tremendous success.

    I see/hear a lot of comments about the unemployment rate. Has anybody ever stopped to think about why there is such unemployment?

    Many people coming out of undergraduate programs struggle to find jobs upon graduating. Has anybody ever stopped to think about what the underlying issues are with the job skills that are required by our professional environment versus the skills that most undergraduates have upon graduating?

    I read something the other day that the unemployment rate for those with Masters Degrees is in the neighborhood of 3% (even for those with TCU MBAs). Has anybody ever stopped to think why this class of worker is more desired upon our business community than other workers?

    We like to make a lot of excuses as a society. It's what drives a lot of these discussions. We like to make simplistic answers that point the finger. We hate as a society asking tough questions that demand tough answers. We don't necessarily like hearing the truth because it can be hurtful to many.

    The world is changing. The skill sets required to operate in this world are changing. If you don't have the skills to compete in that world, it's not like people are going to just give you a hand out because you are entitled to it. Not even Pat Haden is that fucking stupid.

    Best Tequilla Long: Didn't Read post in quite some time.
  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member Posts: 15,279
    Hoss94 is that you?
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,630 Standard Supporter

    There's probably something to it in rare cases, but 99% of the time the people whining about it ignore things like hard work, creativity, iniative etc. and focus on making everyone who fails a victim.

    I'm way more worried about income inequality and a lack of upward mobility.

    Income inequality and upward mobility? You obviously majored in liberal arts. Holy fuckall
    Bingo, and both are continually getting worse.
  • 3db_thegreatest
    3db_thegreatest Member Posts: 14
    Hot news, Tequilla = SMU MBA which equals LO fucking L, how hard has your life been trying to pretend you are prestigious for all these years?
  • Tailgater
    Tailgater Member Posts: 1,389

    There's probably something to it in rare cases, but 99% of the time the people whining about it ignore things like hard work, creativity, iniative etc. and focus on making everyone who fails a victim.

    I'm way more worried about income inequality and a lack of upward mobility.

    Income inequality and upward mobility? You obviously majored in liberal arts. Holy fuckall
    Bingo, and both are continually getting worse.
    Speaking of majors, an article in the UWAA magazine last year (also in The Seattle Times) reported that companies and corporations in western Washington state were failing to fill approximately 37,000 openings for tech degreed engineering, math, and science majors. The state's colleges and universities have never been able to graduate enough BS degrees to even come close to filling the tech jobs available probably going all the way back to the startup of Boeing..... and have traditionally made up the slack by recruiting techs from all over the USA, Europe, Asia, and even the Third World, except for a few places such as Kansas where science in public schools is banned or shunned.

    But now it seems there are few techs available from traditional out-of-state sources. In response to the dire need, a group of local companies have combined with the UW to raise financing for expansion of engineering and science colleges and degree programs and to organize a lobbying effort led by Bill Gates Sr. to pry public money out of state politicians and taxpayers who have their heads stuck where the sun of knowledge never shines. No offense to liberal arts majors, but too many of you are avoiding BS programs required to fill high paying tech jobs, most of which by the way are one hell of a lot of fun. I can only presume this is because of the difficulty and hard work associated in classroom mythology with that evil Godless word...... science.

    Blame it on Obama.

  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

    This thread really sucks ass

    You have bad manners. Did your mother not wash your mouth out with feces when you were growing up?
  • 3db_thegreatest
    3db_thegreatest Member Posts: 14
    Tailgater crushed it during MS DOS 1.0.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,759 Founders Club
    I might be able to add something to this discussion: graduated from UW in 2010 with honors (3.81) in liberal arts (no need to specify which one since they're all the same to non-liberal arts majors); did a few independent research projects for professors (completely irrelevant to anything but what they were researching). Haven't ever made more than 15ish$/hour if I'm remembering correctly, mainly just made 10-11 at jobs requiring no degree (but my UW degree got me them rather easily). Chose going for *another* bachelor's, this time in Computer Science over law school at some middling/shitty school somewhere. Hmm, yeah that about sums it up, I will be graduated next year and can say with certainty that Computer Science, despite its employment prospects, is fucking awful for anyone except WoW losers and Mac geeks. The school I go to now is a legitimate Pac-12 school (not fucking Oregon obviously) and my classmates rib me quite a bit about my other degree; I basically laugh at them because they didn't get to go/graduate from UW and I did. This was not a pity post or some political commentary, just adding one instance to the discussion.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    haie said:

    I might be able to add something to this discussion: graduated from UW in 2010 with honors (3.81) in liberal arts (no need to specify which one since they're all the same to non-liberal arts majors); did a few independent research projects for professors (completely irrelevant to anything but what they were researching). Haven't ever made more than 15ish$/hour if I'm remembering correctly, mainly just made 10-11 at jobs requiring no degree (but my UW degree got me them rather easily). Chose going for *another* bachelor's, this time in Computer Science over law school at some middling/shitty school somewhere. Hmm, yeah that about sums it up, I will be graduated next year and can say with certainty that Computer Science, despite its employment prospects, is fucking awful for anyone except WoW losers and Mac geeks. The school I go to now is a legitimate Pac-12 school (not fucking Oregon obviously) and my classmates rib me quite a bit about my other degree; I basically laugh at them because they didn't get to go/graduate from UW and I did. This was not a pity post or some political commentary, just adding one instance to the discussion.

    Going to Oregon to do Computer Science >>>>> Going to Washington to do liberal arts. Especially if you like money.
  • longduckdong
    longduckdong Member Posts: 1,056
    HFNY said:

    Anything I ever do, accomplish, or achieve is because I am white and / or privileged...or at least so I've been told.

    Wasnt this the last title of Derricks book?

  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,101
    Tailgater hits it spot on ...

    Most people I know when I was going to school are more interested in getting drunk, doing drugs, and having sex than they are about building a foundation for their professional life. I'm not saying that any of those things are bad, but they are generally in contrast to putting hard work in academically that will lead to building the needed professional foundation.

    Somewhere we've decided that college should be some 4-6 year frat party and that "real life" starts afterwards.

    Problem with that is that if you don't lay the right foundation, then you have no choice but to go back and do a "do over" once you wise up a bit.

    As someone that has gone through a mathematics program at the UW, it's hard fucking work. Compared to many of the people that I had classes with, I definitely felt TequillaFS in those classes. Enough so that I realized that that wasn't going to be my future and decided to leverage the math background in business school and later getting a TCU MBA (TCU >>> SMU ... so fuck off if you think otherwise).

    That being said, I can guarantee you that I'm far better off for going through the UW Mathematics program and that many of the lessons that I learned going through it (and often not realizing until later) have served me well.

    There's plenty of opportunity for college students that are prepared to put in the hard work to be able to put themselves in a position to have a very successful professional career. Our ability as a country to fill these positions with our own people is as much of the solution as anything. Right now, we have too many people educated with a certain skill set and knowledge base that is borderline worthless to the business community.