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doogsinparadise

Tequilla said:

Tailgater hits it spot on ...

Most people I know when I was going to school are more interested in getting drunk, doing drugs, and having sex than they are about building a foundation for their professional life. I'm not saying that any of those things are bad, but they are generally in contrast to putting hard work in academically that will lead to building the needed professional foundation.

Somewhere we've decided that college should be some 4-6 year frat party and that "real life" starts afterwards.

Problem with that is that if you don't lay the right foundation, then you have no choice but to go back and do a "do over" once you wise up a bit.

As someone that has gone through a mathematics program at the UW, it's hard fucking work. Compared to many of the people that I had classes with, I definitely felt TequillaFS in those classes. Enough so that I realized that that wasn't going to be my future and decided to leverage the math background in business school and later getting a TCU MBA (TCU >>> SMU ... so fuck off if you think otherwise).

That being said, I can guarantee you that I'm far better off for going through the UW Mathematics program and that many of the lessons that I learned going through it (and often not realizing until later) have served me well.

There's plenty of opportunity for college students that are prepared to put in the hard work to be able to put themselves in a position to have a very successful professional career. Our ability as a country to fill these positions with our own people is as much of the solution as anything. Right now, we have too many people educated with a certain skill set and knowledge base that is borderline worthless to the business community.

You should post more often, blue balls is no joke.

haie

I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure Oregon doesn't have CS/Engineering in the first place. It's the only rebuttal that beaver fans have at this point.

TierbsHsotBoobs

https://www.cs.uoregon.edu/Classes/

RoadDawg55

Tequilla said:

Tailgater hits it spot on ...

Most people I know when I was going to school are more interested in getting drunk, doing drugs, and having sex than they are about building a foundation for their professional life. I'm not saying that any of those things are bad, but they are generally in contrast to putting hard work in academically that will lead to building the needed professional foundation.

Drinking, doing drugs, and having a great fucking time is possibly the best way to network. Doing that stuff in college didn't really get me anywhere, but it has gotten me some very good jobs since college. It's similar to men who do business on the golf course or at the bar after playing 18. It's important, and in many jobs with social aspects, if you don't do it, you fall behind.

You made a great point earlier. People with great educations often think they are entitled to jobs and success because they did well in school. It doesn't always work that way. You still have to do the same shit as everyone else. You are right about the world changing, but really successful people have been using the same formula as always. Hard work, who you know, self promotion, and a little luck.

TierbsHsotBoobs

RoadDawg55 said:

Tequilla said:

Tailgater hits it spot on ...

Most people I know when I was going to school are more interested in getting drunk, doing drugs, and having sex than they are about building a foundation for their professional life. I'm not saying that any of those things are bad, but they are generally in contrast to putting hard work in academically that will lead to building the needed professional foundation.

Drinking, doing drugs, and having a great fucking time is possibly the best way to network. Doing that stuff in college didn't really get me anywhere, but it has gotten me some very good jobs since college. It's similar to men who do business on the golf course or at the bar after playing 18. It's important, and in many jobs with social aspects, if you don't do it, you fall behind.

You made a great point earlier. People with great educations often think they are entitled to jobs and success because they did well in school. It doesn't always work that way. You still have to do the same shit as everyone else. You are right about the world changing, but really successful people have been using the same formula as always. Hard work, who you blow, self promotion, and a little luck.

Tequilla

The importance of networking can't be understated. Often times, drinking and having a great fucking time is a huge part of doing that. My point was simply that if you spend your time in college prioritizing how many keg stands you can do, how many sorority sluts you can fuck, and well you can hot box your apartment all at the expense of your education, then you're going to fucking struggle getting a job after school.

The sense of entitlement amongst the young people today is just downright fucktarded. You are right ... the secret to success really hasn't changed over the years: hard work, networking, protecting your interests, putting yourself in a position to be in the right place at the right time, and being smart enough to take advantage of those situations when they present themselves.

oregonblitzkrieg

Tequilla said:

The importance of networking can't be understated. Often times, drinking and having a great fucking time is a huge part of doing that. My point was simply that if you spend your time in college prioritizing how many keg stands you can do, how many sorority sluts you can fuck, and well you can hot box your apartment all at the expense of your education, then you're going to fucking struggle getting a job after school.

The sense of entitlement amongst the young people today is just downright fucktarded. You are right ... the secret to success really hasn't changed over the years: hard work, networking, protecting your interests, putting yourself in a position to be in the right place at the right time, and being smart enough to take advantage of those situations when they present themselves.

Who you know and who you blow, like Tierbs said. That's what makes the world go round.

haie

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

https://www.cs.uoregon.edu/Classes/

nice. anyways I only commented to acknowledge that, this thread is not delivering in a big way.

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Networking in Seattle is where a Lakeside degree comes in handy

pawz

haie said:

I might be able to add something to this discussion: graduated from UW in 2010 with honors (3.81) in liberal arts (no need to specify which one since they're all the same to non-liberal arts majors); did a few independent research projects for professors (completely irrelevant to anything but what they were researching). Haven't ever made more than 15ish$/hour if I'm remembering correctly, mainly just made 10-11 at jobs requiring no degree (but my UW degree got me them rather easily). Chose going for *another* bachelor's, this time in Computer Science over law school at some middling/shitty school somewhere. Hmm, yeah that about sums it up, I will be graduated next year and can say with certainty that Computer Science, despite its employment prospects, is fucking awful for anyone except WoW losers and Mac geeks. The school I go to now is a legitimate Pac-12 school (not fucking Oregon obviously) and my classmates rib me quite a bit about my other degree; I basically laugh at them because they didn't get to go/graduate from UW and I did. This was not a pity post or some political commentary, just adding one instance to the discussion.

WSU-Vancouver in the house.