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We? would be a third world shit house if dopes like you were in charge. And while you and your people wouldn't mind that stadard of living, the rest us would. And there are more of us and than there are of you.oregonblitzkrieg said:You're not a libertarian, you're a corporatist stooge. Corporatist RINOs love open borders as much as radical regressives do. Two parties, same side, and you're on the same side they are.
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The Constitution recognizes that there are Human Rights (which are inalienable) and there are Civil Rights (which can be limited through due process). The former are recognized by the government and the latter are granted by the government. Sounds like you lump them all into one category.MikeDamone said:
Sounds like you think rights come from the government. Great statist position.Sledog said:
No. people that are not citizens do not have the same rights and privileges as citizens. Freedom is for citizens not criminals. Same with our government programs.MikeDamone said:
No. But unjust laws are just that. Are you for liberty, freedom, capitalism and markets or not? You said “endorse the laws”. Why? Blankety enforce laws. Because laws. That’s what you said. It sounds like If you were around at the time, you’d have been all in on the fugitive slave act.Sledog said:
It's not 1860 HTH. Immigration is and will continue to be controlled by laws. They just need to be enforced after years of neglect. We don't have slaves anymore in America haven't for 159 years. Something contemporary might be helpful.MikeDamone said:
But you would have enforces the fugitive slave act be us it was the law, right?Sledog said:
Slavery is what conservatives fought to end HTH.MikeDamone said:
Sound like you’d have been in favor or the fugitive slave act. It was the law! Enforce it!Sledog said:
I'm anti criminal. Pretty simple. And I don't care where you're from!MikeDamone said:
So you’re also anti liberty, freedom and free markets and pro welfare state and state violence. Got it.Sledog said:Close the border and deport atl illegals ASAP. That's what I want. Immigration is a controlled process not an invasion.
Why the hell are you screwing around with this shit anyway? Not like you. I'm done with the chatter. -
Ummmm...no. I’m talking about the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I didn’t mention civil rights at all.USMChawk said:
The Constitution recognizes that there are Human Rights (which are inalienable) and there are Civil Rights (which can be limited through due process). The former are recognized by the government and the latter are granted by the government. Sounds like you lump them all into one category.MikeDamone said:
Sounds like you think rights come from the government. Great statist position.Sledog said:
No. people that are not citizens do not have the same rights and privileges as citizens. Freedom is for citizens not criminals. Same with our government programs.MikeDamone said:
No. But unjust laws are just that. Are you for liberty, freedom, capitalism and markets or not? You said “endorse the laws”. Why? Blankety enforce laws. Because laws. That’s what you said. It sounds like If you were around at the time, you’d have been all in on the fugitive slave act.Sledog said:
It's not 1860 HTH. Immigration is and will continue to be controlled by laws. They just need to be enforced after years of neglect. We don't have slaves anymore in America haven't for 159 years. Something contemporary might be helpful.MikeDamone said:
But you would have enforces the fugitive slave act be us it was the law, right?Sledog said:
Slavery is what conservatives fought to end HTH.MikeDamone said:
Sound like you’d have been in favor or the fugitive slave act. It was the law! Enforce it!Sledog said:
I'm anti criminal. Pretty simple. And I don't care where you're from!MikeDamone said:
So you’re also anti liberty, freedom and free markets and pro welfare state and state violence. Got it.Sledog said:Close the border and deport atl illegals ASAP. That's what I want. Immigration is a controlled process not an invasion.
Why the hell are you screwing around with this shit anyway? Not like you. I'm done with the chatter. -
The conversation is about borders. Border control is a civil matter and is mandatory, per Article 4, section 4, of the Constitution.MikeDamone said:
Ummmm...no. I’m talking about the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I didn’t mention civil rights at all.USMChawk said:
The Constitution recognizes that there are Human Rights (which are inalienable) and there are Civil Rights (which can be limited through due process). The former are recognized by the government and the latter are granted by the government. Sounds like you lump them all into one category.MikeDamone said:
Sounds like you think rights come from the government. Great statist position.Sledog said:
No. people that are not citizens do not have the same rights and privileges as citizens. Freedom is for citizens not criminals. Same with our government programs.MikeDamone said:
No. But unjust laws are just that. Are you for liberty, freedom, capitalism and markets or not? You said “endorse the laws”. Why? Blankety enforce laws. Because laws. That’s what you said. It sounds like If you were around at the time, you’d have been all in on the fugitive slave act.Sledog said:
It's not 1860 HTH. Immigration is and will continue to be controlled by laws. They just need to be enforced after years of neglect. We don't have slaves anymore in America haven't for 159 years. Something contemporary might be helpful.MikeDamone said:
But you would have enforces the fugitive slave act be us it was the law, right?Sledog said:
Slavery is what conservatives fought to end HTH.MikeDamone said:
Sound like you’d have been in favor or the fugitive slave act. It was the law! Enforce it!Sledog said:
I'm anti criminal. Pretty simple. And I don't care where you're from!MikeDamone said:
So you’re also anti liberty, freedom and free markets and pro welfare state and state violence. Got it.Sledog said:Close the border and deport atl illegals ASAP. That's what I want. Immigration is a controlled process not an invasion.
Why the hell are you screwing around with this shit anyway? Not like you. I'm done with the chatter. -
Have you been following along or just came in here at the end? Good Christ.USMChawk said:
The conversation is about borders. Border control is a civil matter and is mandatory, per Article 4, section 4, of the Constitution.MikeDamone said:
Ummmm...no. I’m talking about the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I didn’t mention civil rights at all.USMChawk said:
The Constitution recognizes that there are Human Rights (which are inalienable) and there are Civil Rights (which can be limited through due process). The former are recognized by the government and the latter are granted by the government. Sounds like you lump them all into one category.MikeDamone said:
Sounds like you think rights come from the government. Great statist position.Sledog said:
No. people that are not citizens do not have the same rights and privileges as citizens. Freedom is for citizens not criminals. Same with our government programs.MikeDamone said:
No. But unjust laws are just that. Are you for liberty, freedom, capitalism and markets or not? You said “endorse the laws”. Why? Blankety enforce laws. Because laws. That’s what you said. It sounds like If you were around at the time, you’d have been all in on the fugitive slave act.Sledog said:
It's not 1860 HTH. Immigration is and will continue to be controlled by laws. They just need to be enforced after years of neglect. We don't have slaves anymore in America haven't for 159 years. Something contemporary might be helpful.MikeDamone said:
But you would have enforces the fugitive slave act be us it was the law, right?Sledog said:
Slavery is what conservatives fought to end HTH.MikeDamone said:
Sound like you’d have been in favor or the fugitive slave act. It was the law! Enforce it!Sledog said:
I'm anti criminal. Pretty simple. And I don't care where you're from!MikeDamone said:
So you’re also anti liberty, freedom and free markets and pro welfare state and state violence. Got it.Sledog said:Close the border and deport atl illegals ASAP. That's what I want. Immigration is a controlled process not an invasion.
Why the hell are you screwing around with this shit anyway? Not like you. I'm done with the chatter. -
What’s the title of the thread? I’m not Hondo, I understand context. You believe that life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness = open borders. I don’t.MikeDamone said:
Have you been following along or just came in here at the end? Good Christ.USMChawk said:
The conversation is about borders. Border control is a civil matter and is mandatory, per Article 4, section 4, of the Constitution.MikeDamone said:
Ummmm...no. I’m talking about the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I didn’t mention civil rights at all.USMChawk said:
The Constitution recognizes that there are Human Rights (which are inalienable) and there are Civil Rights (which can be limited through due process). The former are recognized by the government and the latter are granted by the government. Sounds like you lump them all into one category.MikeDamone said:
Sounds like you think rights come from the government. Great statist position.Sledog said:
No. people that are not citizens do not have the same rights and privileges as citizens. Freedom is for citizens not criminals. Same with our government programs.MikeDamone said:
No. But unjust laws are just that. Are you for liberty, freedom, capitalism and markets or not? You said “endorse the laws”. Why? Blankety enforce laws. Because laws. That’s what you said. It sounds like If you were around at the time, you’d have been all in on the fugitive slave act.Sledog said:
It's not 1860 HTH. Immigration is and will continue to be controlled by laws. They just need to be enforced after years of neglect. We don't have slaves anymore in America haven't for 159 years. Something contemporary might be helpful.MikeDamone said:
But you would have enforces the fugitive slave act be us it was the law, right?Sledog said:
Slavery is what conservatives fought to end HTH.MikeDamone said:
Sound like you’d have been in favor or the fugitive slave act. It was the law! Enforce it!Sledog said:
I'm anti criminal. Pretty simple. And I don't care where you're from!MikeDamone said:
So you’re also anti liberty, freedom and free markets and pro welfare state and state violence. Got it.Sledog said:Close the border and deport atl illegals ASAP. That's what I want. Immigration is a controlled process not an invasion.
Why the hell are you screwing around with this shit anyway? Not like you. I'm done with the chatter. -
What does open boarders mean to you?USMChawk said:
What’s the title of the thread? I’m not Hondo, I understand context. You believe that life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness = open borders. I don’t.MikeDamone said:
Have you been following along or just came in here at the end? Good Christ.USMChawk said:
The conversation is about borders. Border control is a civil matter and is mandatory, per Article 4, section 4, of the Constitution.MikeDamone said:
Ummmm...no. I’m talking about the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I didn’t mention civil rights at all.USMChawk said:
The Constitution recognizes that there are Human Rights (which are inalienable) and there are Civil Rights (which can be limited through due process). The former are recognized by the government and the latter are granted by the government. Sounds like you lump them all into one category.MikeDamone said:
Sounds like you think rights come from the government. Great statist position.Sledog said:
No. people that are not citizens do not have the same rights and privileges as citizens. Freedom is for citizens not criminals. Same with our government programs.MikeDamone said:
No. But unjust laws are just that. Are you for liberty, freedom, capitalism and markets or not? You said “endorse the laws”. Why? Blankety enforce laws. Because laws. That’s what you said. It sounds like If you were around at the time, you’d have been all in on the fugitive slave act.Sledog said:
It's not 1860 HTH. Immigration is and will continue to be controlled by laws. They just need to be enforced after years of neglect. We don't have slaves anymore in America haven't for 159 years. Something contemporary might be helpful.MikeDamone said:
But you would have enforces the fugitive slave act be us it was the law, right?Sledog said:
Slavery is what conservatives fought to end HTH.MikeDamone said:
Sound like you’d have been in favor or the fugitive slave act. It was the law! Enforce it!Sledog said:
I'm anti criminal. Pretty simple. And I don't care where you're from!MikeDamone said:
So you’re also anti liberty, freedom and free markets and pro welfare state and state violence. Got it.Sledog said:Close the border and deport atl illegals ASAP. That's what I want. Immigration is a controlled process not an invasion.
Why the hell are you screwing around with this shit anyway? Not like you. I'm done with the chatter. -
It’s your thread, what does it mean to you?MikeDamone said:
What does open boarders mean to you?USMChawk said:
What’s the title of the thread? I’m not Hondo, I understand context. You believe that life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness = open borders. I don’t.MikeDamone said:
Have you been following along or just came in here at the end? Good Christ.USMChawk said:
The conversation is about borders. Border control is a civil matter and is mandatory, per Article 4, section 4, of the Constitution.MikeDamone said:
Ummmm...no. I’m talking about the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I didn’t mention civil rights at all.USMChawk said:
The Constitution recognizes that there are Human Rights (which are inalienable) and there are Civil Rights (which can be limited through due process). The former are recognized by the government and the latter are granted by the government. Sounds like you lump them all into one category.MikeDamone said:
Sounds like you think rights come from the government. Great statist position.Sledog said:
No. people that are not citizens do not have the same rights and privileges as citizens. Freedom is for citizens not criminals. Same with our government programs.MikeDamone said:
No. But unjust laws are just that. Are you for liberty, freedom, capitalism and markets or not? You said “endorse the laws”. Why? Blankety enforce laws. Because laws. That’s what you said. It sounds like If you were around at the time, you’d have been all in on the fugitive slave act.Sledog said:
It's not 1860 HTH. Immigration is and will continue to be controlled by laws. They just need to be enforced after years of neglect. We don't have slaves anymore in America haven't for 159 years. Something contemporary might be helpful.MikeDamone said:
But you would have enforces the fugitive slave act be us it was the law, right?Sledog said:
Slavery is what conservatives fought to end HTH.MikeDamone said:
Sound like you’d have been in favor or the fugitive slave act. It was the law! Enforce it!Sledog said:
I'm anti criminal. Pretty simple. And I don't care where you're from!MikeDamone said:
So you’re also anti liberty, freedom and free markets and pro welfare state and state violence. Got it.Sledog said:Close the border and deport atl illegals ASAP. That's what I want. Immigration is a controlled process not an invasion.
Why the hell are you screwing around with this shit anyway? Not like you. I'm done with the chatter. -
I’ve already answered that. Like I said, you must have just jumped in here at the end.USMChawk said:
It’s your thread, what does it mean to you?MikeDamone said:
What does open boarders mean to you?USMChawk said:
What’s the title of the thread? I’m not Hondo, I understand context. You believe that life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness = open borders. I don’t.MikeDamone said:
Have you been following along or just came in here at the end? Good Christ.USMChawk said:
The conversation is about borders. Border control is a civil matter and is mandatory, per Article 4, section 4, of the Constitution.MikeDamone said:
Ummmm...no. I’m talking about the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I didn’t mention civil rights at all.USMChawk said:
The Constitution recognizes that there are Human Rights (which are inalienable) and there are Civil Rights (which can be limited through due process). The former are recognized by the government and the latter are granted by the government. Sounds like you lump them all into one category.MikeDamone said:
Sounds like you think rights come from the government. Great statist position.Sledog said:
No. people that are not citizens do not have the same rights and privileges as citizens. Freedom is for citizens not criminals. Same with our government programs.MikeDamone said:
No. But unjust laws are just that. Are you for liberty, freedom, capitalism and markets or not? You said “endorse the laws”. Why? Blankety enforce laws. Because laws. That’s what you said. It sounds like If you were around at the time, you’d have been all in on the fugitive slave act.Sledog said:
It's not 1860 HTH. Immigration is and will continue to be controlled by laws. They just need to be enforced after years of neglect. We don't have slaves anymore in America haven't for 159 years. Something contemporary might be helpful.MikeDamone said:
But you would have enforces the fugitive slave act be us it was the law, right?Sledog said:
Slavery is what conservatives fought to end HTH.MikeDamone said:
Sound like you’d have been in favor or the fugitive slave act. It was the law! Enforce it!Sledog said:
I'm anti criminal. Pretty simple. And I don't care where you're from!MikeDamone said:
So you’re also anti liberty, freedom and free markets and pro welfare state and state violence. Got it.Sledog said:Close the border and deport atl illegals ASAP. That's what I want. Immigration is a controlled process not an invasion.
Why the hell are you screwing around with this shit anyway? Not like you. I'm done with the chatter. -
I’m only for open borders if I can have my imperialism back.
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I’m defining ‘open borders’ as anyone who wants to come here, can. No exceptions for criminal records, lack of vaccinations/carrying an infectious disease, lack of education, poor/no job skills, no job prospects, no limitations on welfare, no limits on the amount of people admitted, etc..MikeDamone said:
What does open boarders mean to you?USMChawk said:
What’s the title of the thread? I’m not Hondo, I understand context. You believe that life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness = open borders. I don’t.MikeDamone said:
Have you been following along or just came in here at the end? Good Christ.USMChawk said:
The conversation is about borders. Border control is a civil matter and is mandatory, per Article 4, section 4, of the Constitution.MikeDamone said:
Ummmm...no. I’m talking about the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I didn’t mention civil rights at all.USMChawk said:
The Constitution recognizes that there are Human Rights (which are inalienable) and there are Civil Rights (which can be limited through due process). The former are recognized by the government and the latter are granted by the government. Sounds like you lump them all into one category.MikeDamone said:
Sounds like you think rights come from the government. Great statist position.Sledog said:
No. people that are not citizens do not have the same rights and privileges as citizens. Freedom is for citizens not criminals. Same with our government programs.MikeDamone said:
No. But unjust laws are just that. Are you for liberty, freedom, capitalism and markets or not? You said “endorse the laws”. Why? Blankety enforce laws. Because laws. That’s what you said. It sounds like If you were around at the time, you’d have been all in on the fugitive slave act.Sledog said:
It's not 1860 HTH. Immigration is and will continue to be controlled by laws. They just need to be enforced after years of neglect. We don't have slaves anymore in America haven't for 159 years. Something contemporary might be helpful.MikeDamone said:
But you would have enforces the fugitive slave act be us it was the law, right?Sledog said:
Slavery is what conservatives fought to end HTH.MikeDamone said:
Sound like you’d have been in favor or the fugitive slave act. It was the law! Enforce it!Sledog said:
I'm anti criminal. Pretty simple. And I don't care where you're from!MikeDamone said:
So you’re also anti liberty, freedom and free markets and pro welfare state and state violence. Got it.Sledog said:Close the border and deport atl illegals ASAP. That's what I want. Immigration is a controlled process not an invasion.
Why the hell are you screwing around with this shit anyway? Not like you. I'm done with the chatter. -
True first 10 are God given. Can't ever be taken away. But the left is trying hard. So your for a billion third workers pouring in? Hope your house has lots of rooms.MikeDamone said:
No, they don’t come from the constitution. Are yuh saying if the government hadn’t ratified the constitution you’d have no rights. I’m disappointed in your answer.Sledog said:
No they come from the constitution and the cartridge box.MikeDamone said:
Sounds like you think rights come from the government. Great statist position.Sledog said:
No. people that are not citizens do not have the same rights and privileges as citizens. Freedom is for citizens not criminals. Same with our government programs.MikeDamone said:
No. But unjust laws are just that. Are you for liberty, freedom, capitalism and markets or not? You said “endorse the laws”. Why? Blankety enforce laws. Because laws. That’s what you said. It sounds like If you were around at the time, you’d have been all in on the fugitive slave act.Sledog said:
It's not 1860 HTH. Immigration is and will continue to be controlled by laws. They just need to be enforced after years of neglect. We don't have slaves anymore in America haven't for 159 years. Something contemporary might be helpful.MikeDamone said:
But you would have enforces the fugitive slave act be us it was the law, right?Sledog said:
Slavery is what conservatives fought to end HTH.MikeDamone said:
Sound like you’d have been in favor or the fugitive slave act. It was the law! Enforce it!Sledog said:
I'm anti criminal. Pretty simple. And I don't care where you're from!MikeDamone said:
So you’re also anti liberty, freedom and free markets and pro welfare state and state violence. Got it.Sledog said:Close the border and deport atl illegals ASAP. That's what I want. Immigration is a controlled process not an invasion.
Why the hell are you screwing around with this shit anyway? Not like you. I'm done with the chatter. -
No need for them to be at my house. They will be working and can have their own place.Sledog said:
True first 10 are God given. Can't ever be taken away. But the left is trying hard. So your for a billion third workers pouring in? Hope your house has lots of rooms.MikeDamone said:
No, they don’t come from the constitution. Are yuh saying if the government hadn’t ratified the constitution you’d have no rights. I’m disappointed in your answer.Sledog said:
No they come from the constitution and the cartridge box.MikeDamone said:
Sounds like you think rights come from the government. Great statist position.Sledog said:
No. people that are not citizens do not have the same rights and privileges as citizens. Freedom is for citizens not criminals. Same with our government programs.MikeDamone said:
No. But unjust laws are just that. Are you for liberty, freedom, capitalism and markets or not? You said “endorse the laws”. Why? Blankety enforce laws. Because laws. That’s what you said. It sounds like If you were around at the time, you’d have been all in on the fugitive slave act.Sledog said:
It's not 1860 HTH. Immigration is and will continue to be controlled by laws. They just need to be enforced after years of neglect. We don't have slaves anymore in America haven't for 159 years. Something contemporary might be helpful.MikeDamone said:
But you would have enforces the fugitive slave act be us it was the law, right?Sledog said:
Slavery is what conservatives fought to end HTH.MikeDamone said:
Sound like you’d have been in favor or the fugitive slave act. It was the law! Enforce it!Sledog said:
I'm anti criminal. Pretty simple. And I don't care where you're from!MikeDamone said:
So you’re also anti liberty, freedom and free markets and pro welfare state and state violence. Got it.Sledog said:Close the border and deport atl illegals ASAP. That's what I want. Immigration is a controlled process not an invasion.
Why the hell are you screwing around with this shit anyway? Not like you. I'm done with the chatter. -
In this thread? No, you didn’t.MikeDamone said:
I’ve already answered that. Like I said, you must have just jumped in here at the end.USMChawk said:
It’s your thread, what does it mean to you?MikeDamone said:
What does open boarders mean to you?USMChawk said:
What’s the title of the thread? I’m not Hondo, I understand context. You believe that life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness = open borders. I don’t.MikeDamone said:
Have you been following along or just came in here at the end? Good Christ.USMChawk said:
The conversation is about borders. Border control is a civil matter and is mandatory, per Article 4, section 4, of the Constitution.MikeDamone said:
Ummmm...no. I’m talking about the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I didn’t mention civil rights at all.USMChawk said:
The Constitution recognizes that there are Human Rights (which are inalienable) and there are Civil Rights (which can be limited through due process). The former are recognized by the government and the latter are granted by the government. Sounds like you lump them all into one category.MikeDamone said:
Sounds like you think rights come from the government. Great statist position.Sledog said:
No. people that are not citizens do not have the same rights and privileges as citizens. Freedom is for citizens not criminals. Same with our government programs.MikeDamone said:
No. But unjust laws are just that. Are you for liberty, freedom, capitalism and markets or not? You said “endorse the laws”. Why? Blankety enforce laws. Because laws. That’s what you said. It sounds like If you were around at the time, you’d have been all in on the fugitive slave act.Sledog said:
It's not 1860 HTH. Immigration is and will continue to be controlled by laws. They just need to be enforced after years of neglect. We don't have slaves anymore in America haven't for 159 years. Something contemporary might be helpful.MikeDamone said:
But you would have enforces the fugitive slave act be us it was the law, right?Sledog said:
Slavery is what conservatives fought to end HTH.MikeDamone said:
Sound like you’d have been in favor or the fugitive slave act. It was the law! Enforce it!Sledog said:
I'm anti criminal. Pretty simple. And I don't care where you're from!MikeDamone said:
So you’re also anti liberty, freedom and free markets and pro welfare state and state violence. Got it.Sledog said:Close the border and deport atl illegals ASAP. That's what I want. Immigration is a controlled process not an invasion.
Why the hell are you screwing around with this shit anyway? Not like you. I'm done with the chatter. -
I guess we have a lot of empty housing and a billion unfilled jobs. Open your doors before you open our borders. Must be some Cubans you could smuggle.MikeDamone said:
No need for them to be at my house. They will be working and can have their own place.Sledog said:
True first 10 are God given. Can't ever be taken away. But the left is trying hard. So your for a billion third workers pouring in? Hope your house has lots of rooms.MikeDamone said:
No, they don’t come from the constitution. Are yuh saying if the government hadn’t ratified the constitution you’d have no rights. I’m disappointed in your answer.Sledog said:
No they come from the constitution and the cartridge box.MikeDamone said:
Sounds like you think rights come from the government. Great statist position.Sledog said:
No. people that are not citizens do not have the same rights and privileges as citizens. Freedom is for citizens not criminals. Same with our government programs.MikeDamone said:
No. But unjust laws are just that. Are you for liberty, freedom, capitalism and markets or not? You said “endorse the laws”. Why? Blankety enforce laws. Because laws. That’s what you said. It sounds like If you were around at the time, you’d have been all in on the fugitive slave act.Sledog said:
It's not 1860 HTH. Immigration is and will continue to be controlled by laws. They just need to be enforced after years of neglect. We don't have slaves anymore in America haven't for 159 years. Something contemporary might be helpful.MikeDamone said:
But you would have enforces the fugitive slave act be us it was the law, right?Sledog said:
Slavery is what conservatives fought to end HTH.MikeDamone said:
Sound like you’d have been in favor or the fugitive slave act. It was the law! Enforce it!Sledog said:
I'm anti criminal. Pretty simple. And I don't care where you're from!MikeDamone said:
So you’re also anti liberty, freedom and free markets and pro welfare state and state violence. Got it.Sledog said:Close the border and deport atl illegals ASAP. That's what I want. Immigration is a controlled process not an invasion.
Why the hell are you screwing around with this shit anyway? Not like you. I'm done with the chatter. -
Please pay attention.Sledog said:
I guess we have a lot of empty housing and a billion unfilled jobs. Open your doors before you open our borders. Must be some Cubans you could smuggle.MikeDamone said:
No need for them to be at my house. They will be working and can have their own place.Sledog said:
True first 10 are God given. Can't ever be taken away. But the left is trying hard. So your for a billion third workers pouring in? Hope your house has lots of rooms.MikeDamone said:
No, they don’t come from the constitution. Are yuh saying if the government hadn’t ratified the constitution you’d have no rights. I’m disappointed in your answer.Sledog said:
No they come from the constitution and the cartridge box.MikeDamone said:
Sounds like you think rights come from the government. Great statist position.Sledog said:
No. people that are not citizens do not have the same rights and privileges as citizens. Freedom is for citizens not criminals. Same with our government programs.MikeDamone said:
No. But unjust laws are just that. Are you for liberty, freedom, capitalism and markets or not? You said “endorse the laws”. Why? Blankety enforce laws. Because laws. That’s what you said. It sounds like If you were around at the time, you’d have been all in on the fugitive slave act.Sledog said:
It's not 1860 HTH. Immigration is and will continue to be controlled by laws. They just need to be enforced after years of neglect. We don't have slaves anymore in America haven't for 159 years. Something contemporary might be helpful.MikeDamone said:
But you would have enforces the fugitive slave act be us it was the law, right?Sledog said:
Slavery is what conservatives fought to end HTH.MikeDamone said:
Sound like you’d have been in favor or the fugitive slave act. It was the law! Enforce it!Sledog said:
I'm anti criminal. Pretty simple. And I don't care where you're from!MikeDamone said:
So you’re also anti liberty, freedom and free markets and pro welfare state and state violence. Got it.Sledog said:Close the border and deport atl illegals ASAP. That's what I want. Immigration is a controlled process not an invasion.
Why the hell are you screwing around with this shit anyway? Not like you. I'm done with the chatter. -
Yes, First post. Then clarified multiple times.USMChawk said:
In this thread? No, you didn’t.MikeDamone said:
I’ve already answered that. Like I said, you must have just jumped in here at the end.USMChawk said:
It’s your thread, what does it mean to you?MikeDamone said:
What does open boarders mean to you?USMChawk said:
What’s the title of the thread? I’m not Hondo, I understand context. You believe that life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness = open borders. I don’t.MikeDamone said:
Have you been following along or just came in here at the end? Good Christ.USMChawk said:
The conversation is about borders. Border control is a civil matter and is mandatory, per Article 4, section 4, of the Constitution.MikeDamone said:
Ummmm...no. I’m talking about the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I didn’t mention civil rights at all.USMChawk said:
The Constitution recognizes that there are Human Rights (which are inalienable) and there are Civil Rights (which can be limited through due process). The former are recognized by the government and the latter are granted by the government. Sounds like you lump them all into one category.MikeDamone said:
Sounds like you think rights come from the government. Great statist position.Sledog said:
No. people that are not citizens do not have the same rights and privileges as citizens. Freedom is for citizens not criminals. Same with our government programs.MikeDamone said:
No. But unjust laws are just that. Are you for liberty, freedom, capitalism and markets or not? You said “endorse the laws”. Why? Blankety enforce laws. Because laws. That’s what you said. It sounds like If you were around at the time, you’d have been all in on the fugitive slave act.Sledog said:
It's not 1860 HTH. Immigration is and will continue to be controlled by laws. They just need to be enforced after years of neglect. We don't have slaves anymore in America haven't for 159 years. Something contemporary might be helpful.MikeDamone said:
But you would have enforces the fugitive slave act be us it was the law, right?Sledog said:
Slavery is what conservatives fought to end HTH.MikeDamone said:
Sound like you’d have been in favor or the fugitive slave act. It was the law! Enforce it!Sledog said:
I'm anti criminal. Pretty simple. And I don't care where you're from!MikeDamone said:
So you’re also anti liberty, freedom and free markets and pro welfare state and state violence. Got it.Sledog said:Close the border and deport atl illegals ASAP. That's what I want. Immigration is a controlled process not an invasion.
Why the hell are you screwing around with this shit anyway? Not like you. I'm done with the chatter. -
mein*PurpleJ said:I’m only for open borders if I can have my imperialism back.
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The harder you try, the more cringe-worthy your posts tend to be.Sledog said:
I guess we have a lot of empty housing and a billion unfilled jobs. Open your doors before you open our borders. Must be some Cubans you could smuggle.MikeDamone said:
No need for them to be at my house. They will be working and can have their own place.Sledog said:
True first 10 are God given. Can't ever be taken away. But the left is trying hard. So your for a billion third workers pouring in? Hope your house has lots of rooms.MikeDamone said:
No, they don’t come from the constitution. Are yuh saying if the government hadn’t ratified the constitution you’d have no rights. I’m disappointed in your answer.Sledog said:
No they come from the constitution and the cartridge box.MikeDamone said:
Sounds like you think rights come from the government. Great statist position.Sledog said:
No. people that are not citizens do not have the same rights and privileges as citizens. Freedom is for citizens not criminals. Same with our government programs.MikeDamone said:
No. But unjust laws are just that. Are you for liberty, freedom, capitalism and markets or not? You said “endorse the laws”. Why? Blankety enforce laws. Because laws. That’s what you said. It sounds like If you were around at the time, you’d have been all in on the fugitive slave act.Sledog said:
It's not 1860 HTH. Immigration is and will continue to be controlled by laws. They just need to be enforced after years of neglect. We don't have slaves anymore in America haven't for 159 years. Something contemporary might be helpful.MikeDamone said:
But you would have enforces the fugitive slave act be us it was the law, right?Sledog said:
Slavery is what conservatives fought to end HTH.MikeDamone said:
Sound like you’d have been in favor or the fugitive slave act. It was the law! Enforce it!Sledog said:
I'm anti criminal. Pretty simple. And I don't care where you're from!MikeDamone said:
So you’re also anti liberty, freedom and free markets and pro welfare state and state violence. Got it.Sledog said:Close the border and deport atl illegals ASAP. That's what I want. Immigration is a controlled process not an invasion.
Why the hell are you screwing around with this shit anyway? Not like you. I'm done with the chatter.
This neo-populism is perfect for you. It's old school right wing minus free markets and capitalism, which we know isn't your thing Mr. Public Employee pensioner. Reagan wouldn't recognize this place and would think you're a fag. -
creepycoug said:
The harder you try, the more cringe-worthy your posts tend to be.Sledog said:
I guess we have a lot of empty housing and a billion unfilled jobs. Open your doors before you open our borders. Must be some Cubans you could smuggle.MikeDamone said:
No need for them to be at my house. They will be working and can have their own place.Sledog said:
True first 10 are God given. Can't ever be taken away. But the left is trying hard. So your for a billion third workers pouring in? Hope your house has lots of rooms.MikeDamone said:
No, they don’t come from the constitution. Are yuh saying if the government hadn’t ratified the constitution you’d have no rights. I’m disappointed in your answer.Sledog said:
No they come from the constitution and the cartridge box.MikeDamone said:
Sounds like you think rights come from the government. Great statist position.Sledog said:
No. people that are not citizens do not have the same rights and privileges as citizens. Freedom is for citizens not criminals. Same with our government programs.MikeDamone said:
No. But unjust laws are just that. Are you for liberty, freedom, capitalism and markets or not? You said “endorse the laws”. Why? Blankety enforce laws. Because laws. That’s what you said. It sounds like If you were around at the time, you’d have been all in on the fugitive slave act.Sledog said:
It's not 1860 HTH. Immigration is and will continue to be controlled by laws. They just need to be enforced after years of neglect. We don't have slaves anymore in America haven't for 159 years. Something contemporary might be helpful.MikeDamone said:
But you would have enforces the fugitive slave act be us it was the law, right?Sledog said:
Slavery is what conservatives fought to end HTH.MikeDamone said:
Sound like you’d have been in favor or the fugitive slave act. It was the law! Enforce it!Sledog said:
I'm anti criminal. Pretty simple. And I don't care where you're from!MikeDamone said:
So you’re also anti liberty, freedom and free markets and pro welfare state and state violence. Got it.Sledog said:Close the border and deport atl illegals ASAP. That's what I want. Immigration is a controlled process not an invasion.
Why the hell are you screwing around with this shit anyway? Not like you. I'm done with the chatter.
This neo-populism is perfect for you. It's old school right wing minus free markets and capitalism, which we know isn't your thing Mr. Public Employee pensioner. Reagan wouldn't recognize this place and would think you're a fag. -
I agree with the Reagan quote but, in this political climate, that’s not considered open borders. There are still controls in place (worker visas, etc).MikeDamone said:creepycoug said:
The harder you try, the more cringe-worthy your posts tend to be.Sledog said:
I guess we have a lot of empty housing and a billion unfilled jobs. Open your doors before you open our borders. Must be some Cubans you could smuggle.MikeDamone said:
No need for them to be at my house. They will be working and can have their own place.Sledog said:
True first 10 are God given. Can't ever be taken away. But the left is trying hard. So your for a billion third workers pouring in? Hope your house has lots of rooms.MikeDamone said:
No, they don’t come from the constitution. Are yuh saying if the government hadn’t ratified the constitution you’d have no rights. I’m disappointed in your answer.Sledog said:
No they come from the constitution and the cartridge box.MikeDamone said:
Sounds like you think rights come from the government. Great statist position.Sledog said:
No. people that are not citizens do not have the same rights and privileges as citizens. Freedom is for citizens not criminals. Same with our government programs.MikeDamone said:
No. But unjust laws are just that. Are you for liberty, freedom, capitalism and markets or not? You said “endorse the laws”. Why? Blankety enforce laws. Because laws. That’s what you said. It sounds like If you were around at the time, you’d have been all in on the fugitive slave act.Sledog said:
It's not 1860 HTH. Immigration is and will continue to be controlled by laws. They just need to be enforced after years of neglect. We don't have slaves anymore in America haven't for 159 years. Something contemporary might be helpful.MikeDamone said:
But you would have enforces the fugitive slave act be us it was the law, right?Sledog said:
Slavery is what conservatives fought to end HTH.MikeDamone said:
Sound like you’d have been in favor or the fugitive slave act. It was the law! Enforce it!Sledog said:
I'm anti criminal. Pretty simple. And I don't care where you're from!MikeDamone said:
So you’re also anti liberty, freedom and free markets and pro welfare state and state violence. Got it.Sledog said:Close the border and deport atl illegals ASAP. That's what I want. Immigration is a controlled process not an invasion.
Why the hell are you screwing around with this shit anyway? Not like you. I'm done with the chatter.
This neo-populism is perfect for you. It's old school right wing minus free markets and capitalism, which we know isn't your thing Mr. Public Employee pensioner. Reagan wouldn't recognize this place and would think you're a fag. -
So you didn’t read the original post?USMChawk said:
I agree with the Reagan quote but, in this political climate, that’s not considered open borders. There are still controls in place (worker visas, etc).MikeDamone said:creepycoug said:
The harder you try, the more cringe-worthy your posts tend to be.Sledog said:
I guess we have a lot of empty housing and a billion unfilled jobs. Open your doors before you open our borders. Must be some Cubans you could smuggle.MikeDamone said:
No need for them to be at my house. They will be working and can have their own place.Sledog said:
True first 10 are God given. Can't ever be taken away. But the left is trying hard. So your for a billion third workers pouring in? Hope your house has lots of rooms.MikeDamone said:
No, they don’t come from the constitution. Are yuh saying if the government hadn’t ratified the constitution you’d have no rights. I’m disappointed in your answer.Sledog said:
No they come from the constitution and the cartridge box.MikeDamone said:
Sounds like you think rights come from the government. Great statist position.Sledog said:
No. people that are not citizens do not have the same rights and privileges as citizens. Freedom is for citizens not criminals. Same with our government programs.MikeDamone said:
No. But unjust laws are just that. Are you for liberty, freedom, capitalism and markets or not? You said “endorse the laws”. Why? Blankety enforce laws. Because laws. That’s what you said. It sounds like If you were around at the time, you’d have been all in on the fugitive slave act.Sledog said:
It's not 1860 HTH. Immigration is and will continue to be controlled by laws. They just need to be enforced after years of neglect. We don't have slaves anymore in America haven't for 159 years. Something contemporary might be helpful.MikeDamone said:
But you would have enforces the fugitive slave act be us it was the law, right?Sledog said:
Slavery is what conservatives fought to end HTH.MikeDamone said:
Sound like you’d have been in favor or the fugitive slave act. It was the law! Enforce it!Sledog said:
I'm anti criminal. Pretty simple. And I don't care where you're from!MikeDamone said:
So you’re also anti liberty, freedom and free markets and pro welfare state and state violence. Got it.Sledog said:Close the border and deport atl illegals ASAP. That's what I want. Immigration is a controlled process not an invasion.
Why the hell are you screwing around with this shit anyway? Not like you. I'm done with the chatter.
This neo-populism is perfect for you. It's old school right wing minus free markets and capitalism, which we know isn't your thing Mr. Public Employee pensioner. Reagan wouldn't recognize this place and would think you're a fag. -
Ok, fair point if what you mean that the current polarization makes it seem as though there are people who want zero regulation of who does and doesn't enter. But make no mistake, there is a lot of protectionism and good old fashioned xenophobia (just read Sledog's posts) packed into the "crisis at the border" crowd.
Like I say when this comes up, of course I'm for legal and regulated immigration. Who could be against it?
But this focus on legality and paper work and vetting it's a ruse for many. And I tend to agree with Damone - manage the welfare state better (he'd just get rid of it) and the only people who would come here would come to work, and if there was no work they wouldn't come.
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A certain number he never talked hoard admission.MikeDamone said:creepycoug said:
The harder you try, the more cringe-worthy your posts tend to be.Sledog said:
I guess we have a lot of empty housing and a billion unfilled jobs. Open your doors before you open our borders. Must be some Cubans you could smuggle.MikeDamone said:
No need for them to be at my house. They will be working and can have their own place.Sledog said:
True first 10 are God given. Can't ever be taken away. But the left is trying hard. So your for a billion third workers pouring in? Hope your house has lots of rooms.MikeDamone said:
No, they don’t come from the constitution. Are yuh saying if the government hadn’t ratified the constitution you’d have no rights. I’m disappointed in your answer.Sledog said:
No they come from the constitution and the cartridge box.MikeDamone said:
Sounds like you think rights come from the government. Great statist position.Sledog said:
No. people that are not citizens do not have the same rights and privileges as citizens. Freedom is for citizens not criminals. Same with our government programs.MikeDamone said:
No. But unjust laws are just that. Are you for liberty, freedom, capitalism and markets or not? You said “endorse the laws”. Why? Blankety enforce laws. Because laws. That’s what you said. It sounds like If you were around at the time, you’d have been all in on the fugitive slave act.Sledog said:
It's not 1860 HTH. Immigration is and will continue to be controlled by laws. They just need to be enforced after years of neglect. We don't have slaves anymore in America haven't for 159 years. Something contemporary might be helpful.MikeDamone said:
But you would have enforces the fugitive slave act be us it was the law, right?Sledog said:
Slavery is what conservatives fought to end HTH.MikeDamone said:
Sound like you’d have been in favor or the fugitive slave act. It was the law! Enforce it!Sledog said:
I'm anti criminal. Pretty simple. And I don't care where you're from!MikeDamone said:
So you’re also anti liberty, freedom and free markets and pro welfare state and state violence. Got it.Sledog said:Close the border and deport atl illegals ASAP. That's what I want. Immigration is a controlled process not an invasion.
Why the hell are you screwing around with this shit anyway? Not like you. I'm done with the chatter.
This neo-populism is perfect for you. It's old school right wing minus free markets and capitalism, which we know isn't your thing Mr. Public Employee pensioner. Reagan wouldn't recognize this place and would think you're a fag. -
Reagan didn’t mention a number. But read the original post.Sledog said:
A certain number he never talked hoard admission.MikeDamone said:creepycoug said:
The harder you try, the more cringe-worthy your posts tend to be.Sledog said:
I guess we have a lot of empty housing and a billion unfilled jobs. Open your doors before you open our borders. Must be some Cubans you could smuggle.MikeDamone said:
No need for them to be at my house. They will be working and can have their own place.Sledog said:
True first 10 are God given. Can't ever be taken away. But the left is trying hard. So your for a billion third workers pouring in? Hope your house has lots of rooms.MikeDamone said:
No, they don’t come from the constitution. Are yuh saying if the government hadn’t ratified the constitution you’d have no rights. I’m disappointed in your answer.Sledog said:
No they come from the constitution and the cartridge box.MikeDamone said:
Sounds like you think rights come from the government. Great statist position.Sledog said:
No. people that are not citizens do not have the same rights and privileges as citizens. Freedom is for citizens not criminals. Same with our government programs.MikeDamone said:
No. But unjust laws are just that. Are you for liberty, freedom, capitalism and markets or not? You said “endorse the laws”. Why? Blankety enforce laws. Because laws. That’s what you said. It sounds like If you were around at the time, you’d have been all in on the fugitive slave act.Sledog said:
It's not 1860 HTH. Immigration is and will continue to be controlled by laws. They just need to be enforced after years of neglect. We don't have slaves anymore in America haven't for 159 years. Something contemporary might be helpful.MikeDamone said:
But you would have enforces the fugitive slave act be us it was the law, right?Sledog said:
Slavery is what conservatives fought to end HTH.MikeDamone said:
Sound like you’d have been in favor or the fugitive slave act. It was the law! Enforce it!Sledog said:
I'm anti criminal. Pretty simple. And I don't care where you're from!MikeDamone said:
So you’re also anti liberty, freedom and free markets and pro welfare state and state violence. Got it.Sledog said:Close the border and deport atl illegals ASAP. That's what I want. Immigration is a controlled process not an invasion.
Why the hell are you screwing around with this shit anyway? Not like you. I'm done with the chatter.
This neo-populism is perfect for you. It's old school right wing minus free markets and capitalism, which we know isn't your thing Mr. Public Employee pensioner. Reagan wouldn't recognize this place and would think you're a fag. -
This may discourage those coming here for work but it doesn’t discourage those seeking asylum or those coming with criminal intent (either normal crime or terrorism).MikeDamone said:And dismantling the welfare state.
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And if there is no services for them, asylum claims are denied, and there is no job waiting, what’s the issue? And the welfare state is dismantled. Why do you ignore that part?USMChawk said:
This may discourage those coming here for work but it doesn’t discourage those seeking asylum or those coming with criminal intent (either normal crime or terrorism).MikeDamone said:And dismantling the welfare state.
How do you like them apples?
Come here and work or fuck off. There is always room for actual refugees...Actual refugees. Not made up redefinition of the word. -
...‘asylum claims are denied’... If you have those controls in place it’s not 2019 open borders.MikeDamone said:
And if there is no services for them, asylum claims are denied, and there is no job waiting, what’s the issue?USMChawk said:
This may discourage those coming here for work but it doesn’t discourage those seeking asylum or those coming with criminal intent (either normal crime or terrorism).MikeDamone said:And dismantling the welfare state.
How do you like them apples? -
You're against open borders? They all closed own!MikeDamone said:
And if there is no services for them, asylum claims are denied, and there is no job waiting, what’s the issue? And the welfare state is dismantled. Why do you ignore that part?USMChawk said:
This may discourage those coming here for work but it doesn’t discourage those seeking asylum or those coming with criminal intent (either normal crime or terrorism).MikeDamone said:And dismantling the welfare state.
How do you like them apples?
Come here and work or fuck off. There is always room for actual refugees...Actual refugees. Not made up redefinition of the word.
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You're a greasy beaner. There's nothing special about you. You should feel fortunate you're allowed to stay in this country at all. The indigenous folk tolerate you because you (allegedly) came here legally. That's the only thing you've got going for you.creepycoug said:
We? would be a third world shit house if dopes like you were in charge. And while you and your people wouldn't mind that stadard of living, the rest us would. And there are more of us and than there are of you.oregonblitzkrieg said:You're not a libertarian, you're a corporatist stooge. Corporatist RINOs love open borders as much as radical regressives do. Two parties, same side, and you're on the same side they are.
