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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,853 Founders Club
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Sledog said:

    The deal gave Iran nukes within 10 years. That's why we pulled out. Obama wanted them to have nukes. He is at a minimum a Muslim sympathizer.

    Is he Shia or Sunni? I always get it mixed up.
    He was a professed christian as I recall. A lot of people forget that.
    He also said he was opposed to gay marriage. Did you believe him? Obama was most likely an atheist who knew he couldn't say that just as he believed he couldn't publicly support gay marriage in 2008 even though most of his supporters knew he did.
    No. And yes, I doubt the sincerity of his belief, but that doesn't make him a closet muslim as so many nut jobs try to claim.

    I also don't believe Trump is that much of a God fearing man. But a stated agnostic or atheist can't win the POTUS and that is what it is.
    Obama's not a Muslim. He is sympathetic to Muslims they way most leftists are sympathetic to Islam but he isn't a Muslim. His god is the state not Allah.
    If you look at Obama's upbringing it's easy to see that he has nostalgia and extreme empathy for the the plight of muslims and the 3rd world in general. I think what he and many progressives continually get wrong, is that there are some regions and cultures that just can be saved right now. We had to go through the process of modernization in the West and it was bloody and nasty (e.g., Thirty Years War). Now it's their turn in the Islamic World.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,215

    To be fair most of the narcissistic sociopaths who become president are faking religion and that includes our present President

    Its why I don't make a decision based on anything to do with religion. That's a personal thing. The President is hired to run the country

    Agreed.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,215

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Sledog said:

    The deal gave Iran nukes within 10 years. That's why we pulled out. Obama wanted them to have nukes. He is at a minimum a Muslim sympathizer.

    Is he Shia or Sunni? I always get it mixed up.
    He was a professed christian as I recall. A lot of people forget that.
    He also said he was opposed to gay marriage. Did you believe him? Obama was most likely an atheist who knew he couldn't say that just as he believed he couldn't publicly support gay marriage in 2008 even though most of his supporters knew he did.
    No. And yes, I doubt the sincerity of his belief, but that doesn't make him a closet muslim as so many nut jobs try to claim.

    I also don't believe Trump is that much of a God fearing man. But a stated agnostic or atheist can't win the POTUS and that is what it is.
    Obama's not a Muslim. He is sympathetic to Muslims they way most leftists are sympathetic to Islam but he isn't a Muslim. His god is the state not Allah.
    If you look at Obama's upbringing it's easy to see that he has nostalgia and extreme empathy for the the plight of muslims and the 3rd world in general. I think what he and many progressives continually get wrong, is that there are some regions and cultures that just can be saved right now. We had to go through the process of modernization in the West and it was bloody and nasty (e.g., Thirty Years War). Now it's their turn in the Islamic World.
    You must be privy to some aspect of his upbringing that I'm unaware of.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,853 Founders Club
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Sledog said:

    The deal gave Iran nukes within 10 years. That's why we pulled out. Obama wanted them to have nukes. He is at a minimum a Muslim sympathizer.

    Is he Shia or Sunni? I always get it mixed up.
    He was a professed christian as I recall. A lot of people forget that.
    He also said he was opposed to gay marriage. Did you believe him? Obama was most likely an atheist who knew he couldn't say that just as he believed he couldn't publicly support gay marriage in 2008 even though most of his supporters knew he did.
    No. And yes, I doubt the sincerity of his belief, but that doesn't make him a closet muslim as so many nut jobs try to claim.

    I also don't believe Trump is that much of a God fearing man. But a stated agnostic or atheist can't win the POTUS and that is what it is.
    Obama's not a Muslim. He is sympathetic to Muslims they way most leftists are sympathetic to Islam but he isn't a Muslim. His god is the state not Allah.
    If you look at Obama's upbringing it's easy to see that he has nostalgia and extreme empathy for the the plight of muslims and the 3rd world in general. I think what he and many progressives continually get wrong, is that there are some regions and cultures that just can be saved right now. We had to go through the process of modernization in the West and it was bloody and nasty (e.g., Thirty Years War). Now it's their turn in the Islamic World.
    You must be privy to some aspect of his upbringing that I'm unaware of.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Dunham
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,215

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Sledog said:

    The deal gave Iran nukes within 10 years. That's why we pulled out. Obama wanted them to have nukes. He is at a minimum a Muslim sympathizer.

    Is he Shia or Sunni? I always get it mixed up.
    He was a professed christian as I recall. A lot of people forget that.
    He also said he was opposed to gay marriage. Did you believe him? Obama was most likely an atheist who knew he couldn't say that just as he believed he couldn't publicly support gay marriage in 2008 even though most of his supporters knew he did.
    No. And yes, I doubt the sincerity of his belief, but that doesn't make him a closet muslim as so many nut jobs try to claim.

    I also don't believe Trump is that much of a God fearing man. But a stated agnostic or atheist can't win the POTUS and that is what it is.
    Obama's not a Muslim. He is sympathetic to Muslims they way most leftists are sympathetic to Islam but he isn't a Muslim. His god is the state not Allah.
    If you look at Obama's upbringing it's easy to see that he has nostalgia and extreme empathy for the the plight of muslims and the 3rd world in general. I think what he and many progressives continually get wrong, is that there are some regions and cultures that just can be saved right now. We had to go through the process of modernization in the West and it was bloody and nasty (e.g., Thirty Years War). Now it's their turn in the Islamic World.
    You must be privy to some aspect of his upbringing that I'm unaware of.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Dunham
    Commie, raised by commies who hated her country and had a soft-spot for swarthy 3rd Worlder's I'm well aware of his mother's background. Just don't know how that translates to Obama having special empathy for Muslims that's any greater than any other leftist's empathy for Muslims.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,853 Founders Club
    edited June 2019

    Iran is blowing up our shit

    HTH

    I meant if we blow up a little bit of their shit in response does that count as “war”?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 116,035 Founders Club


    Iran is blowing up our shit

    HTH

    I meant if we blow up a little bit of their shit in response does that count as “war”?

    We may find out if Iran presses the issue

    Its generally ineffective. I don't think it was worth the lives of 150 ordinary Iranians
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919
    In this show @dhdawg calls his Country a liar and blames the USA for the downing of its drone and claims that "Noone was harder on the Moslems than Obama in the same spew.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,215
    salemcoog said:

    In this show @dhdawg calls his Country a liar and blames the USA for the downing of its drone and claims that "Noone was harder on the Moslems than Obama in the same spew.

    I heard leftists blaming Trump for the hostilities with Iran. They really do hate their country.