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If we? Go to war with Iran

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  • dhdawgdhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    SFGbob said:

    dhdawg said:

    SFGbob said:

    salemcoog said:

    In this show @dhdawg calls his Country a liar and blames the USA for the downing of its drone and claims that "Noone was harder on the Moslems than Obama in the same spew.

    I heard leftists blaming Trump for the hostilities with Iran. They really do hate their country.
    LOL yes blaming the person who blew up the Iran deal, a move everyone else opposed, as being responsible for rising tensions = hating one's country.

    You guys are brainwashed.
    You mean the deal Obama couldn't even get ratified in the Senate? Who are the "everyone" that opposed blowing up that deal? You mean every leftist? It was a shit deal and that's why Obama didn't bother to try and get it ratified like any other treaty because he knew he'd never get through the Senate.
    everyone country and leader the world actually interested in peace.
    So not Saudi Arabia, Israel and the Republican Party. Even some republicans who opposed the deal opposed pulling out of it.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,211
    dhdawg said:

    SFGbob said:

    dhdawg said:

    SFGbob said:

    salemcoog said:

    In this show @dhdawg calls his Country a liar and blames the USA for the downing of its drone and claims that "Noone was harder on the Moslems than Obama in the same spew.

    I heard leftists blaming Trump for the hostilities with Iran. They really do hate their country.
    LOL yes blaming the person who blew up the Iran deal, a move everyone else opposed, as being responsible for rising tensions = hating one's country.

    You guys are brainwashed.
    You mean the deal Obama couldn't even get ratified in the Senate? Who are the "everyone" that opposed blowing up that deal? You mean every leftist? It was a shit deal and that's why Obama didn't bother to try and get it ratified like any other treaty because he knew he'd never get through the Senate.
    everyone country and leader the world actually interested in peace.
    So not Saudi Arabia, Israel and the Republican Party. Even some republicans who opposed the deal opposed pulling out of it.
    Oh yeah, Iran's interested in peace. Why didn't Obama submit his deal to the Senate for ratification?
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,812 Founders Club
    Still not seeing why if the deal is so TOUGH on Iran they want it back so bad.

    Logic - try it sometime
  • dhdawgdhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    SFGbob said:

    dhdawg said:

    SFGbob said:

    dhdawg said:

    SFGbob said:

    salemcoog said:

    In this show @dhdawg calls his Country a liar and blames the USA for the downing of its drone and claims that "Noone was harder on the Moslems than Obama in the same spew.

    I heard leftists blaming Trump for the hostilities with Iran. They really do hate their country.
    LOL yes blaming the person who blew up the Iran deal, a move everyone else opposed, as being responsible for rising tensions = hating one's country.

    You guys are brainwashed.
    You mean the deal Obama couldn't even get ratified in the Senate? Who are the "everyone" that opposed blowing up that deal? You mean every leftist? It was a shit deal and that's why Obama didn't bother to try and get it ratified like any other treaty because he knew he'd never get through the Senate.
    everyone country and leader the world actually interested in peace.
    So not Saudi Arabia, Israel and the Republican Party. Even some republicans who opposed the deal opposed pulling out of it.
    Oh yeah, Iran's interested in peace. Why didn't Obama submit his deal to the Senate for ratification?
    the Ayatollah and the far right, religious extremist clerics do not want peace. The president, Rouhani, with whom Obama brokered the deal against the wishes of that faction, wants peace.

    Tearing up that agreement and imposing sanctions undermined Rouhani and empowered the Ayatollah.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,812 Founders Club
    https://nypost.com/2016/05/05/playing-the-press-and-the-public-for-chumps-to-sell-the-iran-deal/


    Congratulations, liberals of the Washington press corps and elite organizations: You’re a bunch of suckers. We all know this because the Obama White House just told us so.

    In an astounding New York Times piece by David Samuels, senior White House officials gleefully confess they use friendly reporters and nonprofits as public relations tools in the selling of President Obama’s foreign policy — and can do it almost at will because these tools are ignorant, will believe what they’re told, will essentially take dictation and are happy to be used just to get the information necessary for a tweet or two.

    Their greatest triumph, according to Samuels, was selling a misleading narrative about the nuclear deal with Iran — the parameters of which were set a year before the administration claimed and which had nothing to do with the fact that a supposedly more accommodating government had risen to power.

    The mastermind of the Obama machine is Ben Rhodes, a New Yorker who joined the Obama campaign as a speechwriter in 2007 and has risen to become the most influential foreign-policy hand in the White House.

    Rhodes drips with contempt for almost everyone but his boss. He consigns all those who do not share every particular of the Obama-Rhodes foreign-policy perspective to a gelatinous mass called “The Blob” — including, Samuels writes, Hillary Clinton.

    He thinks as little of them as he does of the journalists he and his team must spoon-feed. “The average reporter we talk to is 27 years old, and their only reporting experience consists of being around political campaigns,” Rhodes says. “They literally know nothing.”

    Neither do @dhdawg and @HardlyClothed
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,211
    dhdawg said:

    SFGbob said:

    dhdawg said:

    SFGbob said:

    dhdawg said:

    SFGbob said:

    salemcoog said:

    In this show @dhdawg calls his Country a liar and blames the USA for the downing of its drone and claims that "Noone was harder on the Moslems than Obama in the same spew.

    I heard leftists blaming Trump for the hostilities with Iran. They really do hate their country.
    LOL yes blaming the person who blew up the Iran deal, a move everyone else opposed, as being responsible for rising tensions = hating one's country.

    You guys are brainwashed.
    You mean the deal Obama couldn't even get ratified in the Senate? Who are the "everyone" that opposed blowing up that deal? You mean every leftist? It was a shit deal and that's why Obama didn't bother to try and get it ratified like any other treaty because he knew he'd never get through the Senate.
    everyone country and leader the world actually interested in peace.
    So not Saudi Arabia, Israel and the Republican Party. Even some republicans who opposed the deal opposed pulling out of it.
    Oh yeah, Iran's interested in peace. Why didn't Obama submit his deal to the Senate for ratification?
    the Ayatollah and the far right, religious extremist clerics do not want peace. The president, Rouhani, with whom Obama brokered the deal against the wishes of that faction, wants peace.

    Tearing up that agreement and imposing sanctions undermined Rouhani and empowered the Ayatollah.
    The Mullahs hand pick who will be the President and this idiot thinks they have some autonomy and authority outside of what the Mullahs allow them to have.
  • dhdawgdhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    Every government in Europe knows nothing.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/17/world/europe/war-iran-europe-iraq.html

    “Every single European government believes that the increased threat we’re seeing from Iran now is a reaction to the United States leaving the Iran nuclear agreement and trying to force Iranian capitulation on other issues,” said Kori Schake, a former Pentagon official who is now deputy director of the International Institute for Strategic Studies.

    “They believe that the U.S. is the provocateur and they worry that the U.S. is reacting so stridently to predictable Iranian actions in order to provide a pretext for a U.S. attack on Iran,” Ms. Schake said.
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    Still not seeing why if the deal is so TOUGH on Iran they want it back so bad.

    Logic - try it sometime

    Cocked and loaded potd.

    Iran’s provocations have isolated the US from any ally other than Israel and trump’s friends in the house of saud. They’ve also exposed trump threats as meaningless bluster and cowardice.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,211
    Gosh, we should just farm our foreign policy out to the Europeans.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,812 Founders Club

    Still not seeing why if the deal is so TOUGH on Iran they want it back so bad.

    Logic - try it sometime

    Cocked and loaded potd.

    Iran’s provocations have isolated the US from any ally other than Israel and trump’s friends in the house of saud. They’ve also exposed trump threats as meaningless bluster and cowardice.
    Why don't you go over and surrender pussy

    Or draw a line in the sand
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,812 Founders Club
    dhdawg said:

    Every government in Europe knows nothing.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/17/world/europe/war-iran-europe-iraq.html

    “Every single European government believes that the increased threat we’re seeing from Iran now is a reaction to the United States leaving the Iran nuclear agreement and trying to force Iranian capitulation on other issues,” said Kori Schake, a former Pentagon official who is now deputy director of the International Institute for Strategic Studies.

    “They believe that the U.S. is the provocateur and they worry that the U.S. is reacting so stridently to predictable Iranian actions in order to provide a pretext for a U.S. attack on Iran,” Ms. Schake said.

    Sure. Kori sounds like Ben Rhodes

    They have been lying from day 1

    Sucker
  • dhdawgdhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    SFGbob said:

    Gosh, we should just farm our foreign policy out to the Europeans.

    isolationism is great. Pretty soon the only allies we'll have left are Israel and Saudi Arabia. that'll be awesome
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,812 Founders Club
    Team hondo is coordinated with the euro talking points
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    Still not seeing why if the deal is so TOUGH on Iran they want it back so bad.

    Logic - try it sometime

    Cocked and loaded potd.

    Iran’s provocations have isolated the US from any ally other than Israel and trump’s friends in the house of saud. They’ve also exposed trump threats as meaningless bluster and cowardice.
    Why don't you go over and surrender pussy

    Or draw a line in the sand
    Trump is playing chess while Iran is playing checkers.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,812 Founders Club

    Still not seeing why if the deal is so TOUGH on Iran they want it back so bad.

    Logic - try it sometime

    Cocked and loaded potd.

    Iran’s provocations have isolated the US from any ally other than Israel and trump’s friends in the house of saud. They’ve also exposed trump threats as meaningless bluster and cowardice.
    Why don't you go over and surrender pussy

    Or draw a line in the sand
    Trump is playing chess while Iran is playing checkers.
    Your playing with your feces
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885

    So we’re clear on Bob’s foreign policy chops his preferred post-9/11 course of action was to start wars with Iraq, Iran, and North Korea. Countries that had nothing to do with 9/11 and didn’t threaten the US. Chickenhawk moron.

    You and hondo should get a room.


    Just be sure it's not in Alabama or Missouri. Because should one of you actually figure out how to get it in, we want to extinguish any chance of that deformed demon seed seeing the light of day
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,211

    dhdawg said:

    Every government in Europe knows nothing.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/17/world/europe/war-iran-europe-iraq.html

    “Every single European government believes that the increased threat we’re seeing from Iran now is a reaction to the United States leaving the Iran nuclear agreement and trying to force Iranian capitulation on other issues,” said Kori Schake, a former Pentagon official who is now deputy director of the International Institute for Strategic Studies.

    “They believe that the U.S. is the provocateur and they worry that the U.S. is reacting so stridently to predictable Iranian actions in order to provide a pretext for a U.S. attack on Iran,” Ms. Schake said.

    Sure. Kori sounds like Ben Rhodes

    They have been lying from day 1

    Sucker
    If you want to work for the International Institute for Strategic Studies you have to be a globalist and tilt left. Hardly shocking that you'd find someone who works for them who is willing to blame the US. It's the default position for most all leftists.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885
    dhdawg said:

    SFGbob said:

    dhdawg said:

    SFGbob said:

    salemcoog said:

    In this show @dhdawg calls his Country a liar and blames the USA for the downing of its drone and claims that "Noone was harder on the Moslems than Obama in the same spew.

    I heard leftists blaming Trump for the hostilities with Iran. They really do hate their country.
    LOL yes blaming the person who blew up the Iran deal, a move everyone else opposed, as being responsible for rising tensions = hating one's country.

    You guys are brainwashed.
    You mean the deal Obama couldn't even get ratified in the Senate? Who are the "everyone" that opposed blowing up that deal? You mean every leftist? It was a shit deal and that's why Obama didn't bother to try and get it ratified like any other treaty because he knew he'd never get through the Senate.
    everyone country and leader the world actually interested in peace.
    So not Saudi Arabia, Israel and the Republican Party. Even some republicans who opposed the deal opposed pulling out of it.
    No one here would have opposed one of your Dads pulling out of the other one.

    Take that to the bank.
  • dhdawgdhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    edited June 2019

    Team hondo is coordinated with the euro talking points

    Imagine taking the opinion of the international community writ large into account when making military decisions with global implications.
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