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Oh sure. I'm sure you really think Oregon losing their highest rated LB commit ever and one of their top-3 OL signees since Helfrich wouldn't be a big deal. Do you see Oregon lighting it up in recruiting right now? Do you really think they can just easily replace those guys with equal or better talent down the road if they don't pan out and end up elsewhere? They won't.lawsandl said:
All your assessments depend on fortune telling and predicated in the worst possible scenario. You don’t hedge against this or live in world of probability but in an all or nothing world. Who gives a shit if Mase comes in as a fat ass and then leaves? It’s actually a good scenario. If he’s a badass he stays if not he has to earn his his schollie again. Likewise, linebacker and DL depth are in good shape.StrongArmCobra said:
It doesn't matter. He's not playing as a true Freshman due to the knee injury and being an out of shape fat ass. He'll redshirt. If he goes on a mission, that'll give him two years to watch Oregon remain mediocre. After his mission he's free to go wherever he wants and play immediately. He'll either go to USC or he'll be so fat and out of shape that Oregon won't even want him to come back. Like I said, if he takes that mission, he ain't doing shit at Oregon ever.greenblood said:
He’s making the decision after his Freshman year. Try reading an article before you fart.StrongArmCobra said:
So they gave up the most sacks? Got it.lawsandl said:
Mirabal developed at Marshall and they were always a leader in sacks given up. Pass pro has improved under him. Between Cristobal and Mirabal, they work well together.StrongArmCobra said:
Recruiting and signing guys are two different things. None of those guys are going to Oregon. Oregon is recruiting all the obvious elite kids just like everybody else. But you can see them lining up their "hidden gem" guys for when they inevitably whiff on all their top O-line targets.lawsandl said:
Hidden gems??? Oregon shows some interest and all of sudden they are chasing underrated recruits? Let me know when Oregon gives this kid an official visit. Until then Oregon is recruiting Rosengarten, Fryar, Hatcher and Harper. Last I check all 4 took official visits to other good schools.StrongArmCobra said:Ducks going hard after those "hidden gems" lol. They lose six lineman after this season and have to try to load up on "hidden gem" recruits to replace them. Must suck knowing UW can get this kid anytime they want. Not a lot of O-line talent in the state of Oregon this cycle. They have to come up here and try to take whatever scraps UW leaves behind.
Oregon ain't Bama. They can't recruit elite lineman from around the nation like Bama can and out West, most of the elite O-line recruits care about academics which puts Oregon at a disadvantage. It really doesn't matter that Cristobal is a blow hard O-line coach as a head coach. He will struggle consistently recruiting quality O-lineman at Oregon. That's why having an O-line coach and developer of talent like Greatwood was so important for Oregon's success during your golden era. Mario got demoted at Bama so he's not the O-line coach he's hyped up to be. He's an idiot meat head who sacrifices athleticism for size. On top of that, your actual O-line coach is a total nobody and looks like an elf.
Also, getting Sewell, Tauanu’u, and Aumavue-Laulu along with Jaramillo and Jones is an excellent haul. We’ll see where Rosengarten winds up.
Lastly, Oregon looks good for Harper and Rosengarten as well as Jeffers. I am sure Cristobal will put together a good haul.
Seriously though, Mirabal is a nobody. I don't think he's the kinda guy who can instill toughness in an O-line long term and I don't think he can recruit. Cristobal did all the heavy lifting for him last class and still could only get one legit Freshman for O-line in Jonah T. That's not enough.
O-line require depth. 2-3 good recruits in his first two classes isn't gonna cut it.
Oregon needs to replenish their O-line depth in the worst way and they won't be doing it with a lot of elite recruits. Better find and develop those hidden gems!
Also, if Mase Funa takes that 2-year mission he'll never play a down for Oregon. He'll go play somewhere else after his mission. Probably USC if they want him. Decommit U.
Also, rumors swirling Jonah T is next to transfer portal to SC. Probably after the season when SC has a scholarship available for him. The transfer portal is gonna fuck Oregon. So many soft commits conned into signing with Oregon and then having buyer's remorse soon after. Now they can just put themselves back on the market and be recruited all over again.
As for OL, if Jonah is on campus for a year and wants to be at USC, so be it. The nice thing about the portal is it goes both ways. Cristobal will fill spots and get good players. -
There's nothing but optimism within Oregon's program right now. They are projected by the media to compete for the Pac-12 title. They have a top draft pick at QB who's a 4-year starter. But when they fail to meet those expectations this season and kids who thought they'd be playing aren't playing, that's when guys will start jumping in the portal. It's all rainbows and sunshine until the losses start piling up.lawsandl said:
Lol. A lot of the kids seem to be enjoying their time there.StrongArmCobra said:
For Oregon, it's about getting kids to commit based on the emotional high of a visit. Especially with the way Oregon's entire football staff suck these kids off during their visits. I can imagine it's quite intoxicating during their visits and makes them feel special. However, the reality is, once they sign with Oregon and get on campus, all that love and emotional high isn't there anymore. Oregon presents this mirage during their visits for kids and it's not at all the reality of day to day life in Eugene. So kids get on campus and are like "this shit isn't nearly as fun as I thought it would be. Eugene fucking sucks. I want to go home."creepycoug said:
That sounded racist man.greenblood said:
He’s making the decision after his Freshman year. Try reading an article before you fart.StrongArmCobra said:
So they gave up the most sacks? Got it.lawsandl said:
Mirabal developed at Marshall and they were always a leader in sacks given up. Pass pro has improved under him. Between Cristobal and Mirabal, they work well together.StrongArmCobra said:
Recruiting and signing guys are two different things. None of those guys are going to Oregon. Oregon is recruiting all the obvious elite kids just like everybody else. But you can see them lining up their "hidden gem" guys for when they inevitably whiff on all their top O-line targets.lawsandl said:
Hidden gems??? Oregon shows some interest and all of sudden they are chasing underrated recruits? Let me know when Oregon gives this kid an official visit. Until then Oregon is recruiting Rosengarten, Fryar, Hatcher and Harper. Last I check all 4 took official visits to other good schools.StrongArmCobra said:Ducks going hard after those "hidden gems" lol. They lose six lineman after this season and have to try to load up on "hidden gem" recruits to replace them. Must suck knowing UW can get this kid anytime they want. Not a lot of O-line talent in the state of Oregon this cycle. They have to come up here and try to take whatever scraps UW leaves behind.
Oregon ain't Bama. They can't recruit elite lineman from around the nation like Bama can and out West, most of the elite O-line recruits care about academics which puts Oregon at a disadvantage. It really doesn't matter that Cristobal is a blow hard O-line coach as a head coach. He will struggle consistently recruiting quality O-lineman at Oregon. That's why having an O-line coach and developer of talent like Greatwood was so important for Oregon's success during your golden era. Mario got demoted at Bama so he's not the O-line coach he's hyped up to be. He's an idiot meat head who sacrifices athleticism for size. On top of that, your actual O-line coach is a total nobody and looks like an elf.
Also, getting Sewell, Tauanu’u, and Aumavue-Laulu along with Jaramillo and Jones is an excellent haul. We’ll see where Rosengarten winds up.
Lastly, Oregon looks good for Harper and Rosengarten as well as Jeffers. I am sure Cristobal will put together a good haul.
Seriously though, Mirabal is a nobody. I don't think he's the kinda guy who can instill toughness in an O-line long term and I don't think he can recruit. Cristobal did all the heavy lifting for him last class and still could only get one legit Freshman for O-line in Jonah T. That's not enough.
O-line require depth. 2-3 good recruits in his first two classes isn't gonna cut it.
Oregon needs to replenish their O-line depth in the worst way and they won't be doing it with a lot of elite recruits. Better find and develop those hidden gems!
Also, if Mase Funa takes that 2-year mission he'll never play a down for Oregon. He'll go play somewhere else after his mission. Probably USC if they want him. Decommit U.
Also, rumors swirling Jonah T is next to transfer portal to SC. Probably after the season when SC has a scholarship available for him. The transfer portal is gonna fuck Oregon. So many soft commits conned into signing with Oregon and then having buyer's remorse soon after. Now they can just put themselves back on the market and be recruited all over again. -
Mase isn’t a linebacker. I also think Oregon gets Noah Sewell and has a bright future at LB.StrongArmCobra said:
Oh sure. I'm sure you really think Oregon losing their highest rated LB commit ever and one of their top-3 OL signees since Helfrich wouldn't be a big deal. Do you see Oregon lighting it up in recruiting right now? Do you really think they can just easily replace those guys with equal or better talent down the road if they don't pan out and end up elsewhere? They won't.lawsandl said:
All your assessments depend on fortune telling and predicated in the worst possible scenario. You don’t hedge against this or live in world of probability but in an all or nothing world. Who gives a shit if Mase comes in as a fat ass and then leaves? It’s actually a good scenario. If he’s a badass he stays if not he has to earn his his schollie again. Likewise, linebacker and DL depth are in good shape.StrongArmCobra said:
It doesn't matter. He's not playing as a true Freshman due to the knee injury and being an out of shape fat ass. He'll redshirt. If he goes on a mission, that'll give him two years to watch Oregon remain mediocre. After his mission he's free to go wherever he wants and play immediately. He'll either go to USC or he'll be so fat and out of shape that Oregon won't even want him to come back. Like I said, if he takes that mission, he ain't doing shit at Oregon ever.greenblood said:
He’s making the decision after his Freshman year. Try reading an article before you fart.StrongArmCobra said:
So they gave up the most sacks? Got it.lawsandl said:
Mirabal developed at Marshall and they were always a leader in sacks given up. Pass pro has improved under him. Between Cristobal and Mirabal, they work well together.StrongArmCobra said:
Recruiting and signing guys are two different things. None of those guys are going to Oregon. Oregon is recruiting all the obvious elite kids just like everybody else. But you can see them lining up their "hidden gem" guys for when they inevitably whiff on all their top O-line targets.lawsandl said:
Hidden gems??? Oregon shows some interest and all of sudden they are chasing underrated recruits? Let me know when Oregon gives this kid an official visit. Until then Oregon is recruiting Rosengarten, Fryar, Hatcher and Harper. Last I check all 4 took official visits to other good schools.StrongArmCobra said:Ducks going hard after those "hidden gems" lol. They lose six lineman after this season and have to try to load up on "hidden gem" recruits to replace them. Must suck knowing UW can get this kid anytime they want. Not a lot of O-line talent in the state of Oregon this cycle. They have to come up here and try to take whatever scraps UW leaves behind.
Oregon ain't Bama. They can't recruit elite lineman from around the nation like Bama can and out West, most of the elite O-line recruits care about academics which puts Oregon at a disadvantage. It really doesn't matter that Cristobal is a blow hard O-line coach as a head coach. He will struggle consistently recruiting quality O-lineman at Oregon. That's why having an O-line coach and developer of talent like Greatwood was so important for Oregon's success during your golden era. Mario got demoted at Bama so he's not the O-line coach he's hyped up to be. He's an idiot meat head who sacrifices athleticism for size. On top of that, your actual O-line coach is a total nobody and looks like an elf.
Also, getting Sewell, Tauanu’u, and Aumavue-Laulu along with Jaramillo and Jones is an excellent haul. We’ll see where Rosengarten winds up.
Lastly, Oregon looks good for Harper and Rosengarten as well as Jeffers. I am sure Cristobal will put together a good haul.
Seriously though, Mirabal is a nobody. I don't think he's the kinda guy who can instill toughness in an O-line long term and I don't think he can recruit. Cristobal did all the heavy lifting for him last class and still could only get one legit Freshman for O-line in Jonah T. That's not enough.
O-line require depth. 2-3 good recruits in his first two classes isn't gonna cut it.
Oregon needs to replenish their O-line depth in the worst way and they won't be doing it with a lot of elite recruits. Better find and develop those hidden gems!
Also, if Mase Funa takes that 2-year mission he'll never play a down for Oregon. He'll go play somewhere else after his mission. Probably USC if they want him. Decommit U.
Also, rumors swirling Jonah T is next to transfer portal to SC. Probably after the season when SC has a scholarship available for him. The transfer portal is gonna fuck Oregon. So many soft commits conned into signing with Oregon and then having buyer's remorse soon after. Now they can just put themselves back on the market and be recruited all over again.
As for OL, if Jonah is on campus for a year and wants to be at USC, so be it. The nice thing about the portal is it goes both ways. Cristobal will fill spots and get good players.
Mase ends up at DL. I am not sure what will go into his decision to take a mission but like many before him, future NFL potential will be a big factor. If he has that, I am sure that will be manifest itself.
As for Jonah, I obviously prefer he stick. That being said, I see boom or bust. I think the kid has some growing up to do. If he does that, he’s got all the talent in the world. I can’t imagine an elite talent wanting to wait a year to play. -
Haie, almost everything you wrote could be said of any Division 1 program in the country.StrongArmCobra said:
There's nothing but optimism within Oregon's program right now. They are projected by the media to compete for the Pac-12 title. They have a top draft pick at QB who's a 4-year starter. But when they fail to meet those expectations this season and kids who thought they'd be playing aren't playing, that's when guys will start jumping in the portal. It's all rainbows and sunshine until the losses start piling up.lawsandl said:
Lol. A lot of the kids seem to be enjoying their time there.StrongArmCobra said:
For Oregon, it's about getting kids to commit based on the emotional high of a visit. Especially with the way Oregon's entire football staff suck these kids off during their visits. I can imagine it's quite intoxicating during their visits and makes them feel special. However, the reality is, once they sign with Oregon and get on campus, all that love and emotional high isn't there anymore. Oregon presents this mirage during their visits for kids and it's not at all the reality of day to day life in Eugene. So kids get on campus and are like "this shit isn't nearly as fun as I thought it would be. Eugene fucking sucks. I want to go home."creepycoug said:
That sounded racist man.greenblood said:
He’s making the decision after his Freshman year. Try reading an article before you fart.StrongArmCobra said:
So they gave up the most sacks? Got it.lawsandl said:
Mirabal developed at Marshall and they were always a leader in sacks given up. Pass pro has improved under him. Between Cristobal and Mirabal, they work well together.StrongArmCobra said:
Recruiting and signing guys are two different things. None of those guys are going to Oregon. Oregon is recruiting all the obvious elite kids just like everybody else. But you can see them lining up their "hidden gem" guys for when they inevitably whiff on all their top O-line targets.lawsandl said:
Hidden gems??? Oregon shows some interest and all of sudden they are chasing underrated recruits? Let me know when Oregon gives this kid an official visit. Until then Oregon is recruiting Rosengarten, Fryar, Hatcher and Harper. Last I check all 4 took official visits to other good schools.StrongArmCobra said:Ducks going hard after those "hidden gems" lol. They lose six lineman after this season and have to try to load up on "hidden gem" recruits to replace them. Must suck knowing UW can get this kid anytime they want. Not a lot of O-line talent in the state of Oregon this cycle. They have to come up here and try to take whatever scraps UW leaves behind.
Oregon ain't Bama. They can't recruit elite lineman from around the nation like Bama can and out West, most of the elite O-line recruits care about academics which puts Oregon at a disadvantage. It really doesn't matter that Cristobal is a blow hard O-line coach as a head coach. He will struggle consistently recruiting quality O-lineman at Oregon. That's why having an O-line coach and developer of talent like Greatwood was so important for Oregon's success during your golden era. Mario got demoted at Bama so he's not the O-line coach he's hyped up to be. He's an idiot meat head who sacrifices athleticism for size. On top of that, your actual O-line coach is a total nobody and looks like an elf.
Also, getting Sewell, Tauanu’u, and Aumavue-Laulu along with Jaramillo and Jones is an excellent haul. We’ll see where Rosengarten winds up.
Lastly, Oregon looks good for Harper and Rosengarten as well as Jeffers. I am sure Cristobal will put together a good haul.
Seriously though, Mirabal is a nobody. I don't think he's the kinda guy who can instill toughness in an O-line long term and I don't think he can recruit. Cristobal did all the heavy lifting for him last class and still could only get one legit Freshman for O-line in Jonah T. That's not enough.
O-line require depth. 2-3 good recruits in his first two classes isn't gonna cut it.
Oregon needs to replenish their O-line depth in the worst way and they won't be doing it with a lot of elite recruits. Better find and develop those hidden gems!
Also, if Mase Funa takes that 2-year mission he'll never play a down for Oregon. He'll go play somewhere else after his mission. Probably USC if they want him. Decommit U.
Also, rumors swirling Jonah T is next to transfer portal to SC. Probably after the season when SC has a scholarship available for him. The transfer portal is gonna fuck Oregon. So many soft commits conned into signing with Oregon and then having buyer's remorse soon after. Now they can just put themselves back on the market and be recruited all over again.
The PAC 12 title talk is stupid but that's sports media and dumb fans.
But remind me what Petersen's record was his third year at Washington? I forget. -
Sewell 260+ and he gunna get bigger. If he’s a LBer he gunna have an awfully tough time trying to cover and play in space.lawsandl said:
Mase isn’t a linebacker. I also think Oregon gets Noah Sewell and has a bright future at LB.StrongArmCobra said:
Oh sure. I'm sure you really think Oregon losing their highest rated LB commit ever and one of their top-3 OL signees since Helfrich wouldn't be a big deal. Do you see Oregon lighting it up in recruiting right now? Do you really think they can just easily replace those guys with equal or better talent down the road if they don't pan out and end up elsewhere? They won't.lawsandl said:
All your assessments depend on fortune telling and predicated in the worst possible scenario. You don’t hedge against this or live in world of probability but in an all or nothing world. Who gives a shit if Mase comes in as a fat ass and then leaves? It’s actually a good scenario. If he’s a badass he stays if not he has to earn his his schollie again. Likewise, linebacker and DL depth are in good shape.StrongArmCobra said:
It doesn't matter. He's not playing as a true Freshman due to the knee injury and being an out of shape fat ass. He'll redshirt. If he goes on a mission, that'll give him two years to watch Oregon remain mediocre. After his mission he's free to go wherever he wants and play immediately. He'll either go to USC or he'll be so fat and out of shape that Oregon won't even want him to come back. Like I said, if he takes that mission, he ain't doing shit at Oregon ever.greenblood said:
He’s making the decision after his Freshman year. Try reading an article before you fart.StrongArmCobra said:
So they gave up the most sacks? Got it.lawsandl said:
Mirabal developed at Marshall and they were always a leader in sacks given up. Pass pro has improved under him. Between Cristobal and Mirabal, they work well together.StrongArmCobra said:
Recruiting and signing guys are two different things. None of those guys are going to Oregon. Oregon is recruiting all the obvious elite kids just like everybody else. But you can see them lining up their "hidden gem" guys for when they inevitably whiff on all their top O-line targets.lawsandl said:
Hidden gems??? Oregon shows some interest and all of sudden they are chasing underrated recruits? Let me know when Oregon gives this kid an official visit. Until then Oregon is recruiting Rosengarten, Fryar, Hatcher and Harper. Last I check all 4 took official visits to other good schools.StrongArmCobra said:Ducks going hard after those "hidden gems" lol. They lose six lineman after this season and have to try to load up on "hidden gem" recruits to replace them. Must suck knowing UW can get this kid anytime they want. Not a lot of O-line talent in the state of Oregon this cycle. They have to come up here and try to take whatever scraps UW leaves behind.
Oregon ain't Bama. They can't recruit elite lineman from around the nation like Bama can and out West, most of the elite O-line recruits care about academics which puts Oregon at a disadvantage. It really doesn't matter that Cristobal is a blow hard O-line coach as a head coach. He will struggle consistently recruiting quality O-lineman at Oregon. That's why having an O-line coach and developer of talent like Greatwood was so important for Oregon's success during your golden era. Mario got demoted at Bama so he's not the O-line coach he's hyped up to be. He's an idiot meat head who sacrifices athleticism for size. On top of that, your actual O-line coach is a total nobody and looks like an elf.
Also, getting Sewell, Tauanu’u, and Aumavue-Laulu along with Jaramillo and Jones is an excellent haul. We’ll see where Rosengarten winds up.
Lastly, Oregon looks good for Harper and Rosengarten as well as Jeffers. I am sure Cristobal will put together a good haul.
Seriously though, Mirabal is a nobody. I don't think he's the kinda guy who can instill toughness in an O-line long term and I don't think he can recruit. Cristobal did all the heavy lifting for him last class and still could only get one legit Freshman for O-line in Jonah T. That's not enough.
O-line require depth. 2-3 good recruits in his first two classes isn't gonna cut it.
Oregon needs to replenish their O-line depth in the worst way and they won't be doing it with a lot of elite recruits. Better find and develop those hidden gems!
Also, if Mase Funa takes that 2-year mission he'll never play a down for Oregon. He'll go play somewhere else after his mission. Probably USC if they want him. Decommit U.
Also, rumors swirling Jonah T is next to transfer portal to SC. Probably after the season when SC has a scholarship available for him. The transfer portal is gonna fuck Oregon. So many soft commits conned into signing with Oregon and then having buyer's remorse soon after. Now they can just put themselves back on the market and be recruited all over again.
As for OL, if Jonah is on campus for a year and wants to be at USC, so be it. The nice thing about the portal is it goes both ways. Cristobal will fill spots and get good players.
Mase ends up at DL. I am not sure what will go into his decision to take a mission but like many before him, future NFL potential will be a big factor. If he has that, I am sure that will be manifest itself.
As for Jonah, I obviously prefer he stick. That being said, I see boom or bust. I think the kid has some growing up to do. If he does that, he’s got all the talent in the world. I can’t imagine an elite talent wanting to wait a year to play. -
Of course, it’s inevitable those losses pile up. Sure, if losses pile up, kids will leave.StrongArmCobra said:
There's nothing but optimism within Oregon's program right now. They are projected by the media to compete for the Pac-12 title. They have a top draft pick at QB who's a 4-year starter. But when they fail to meet those expectations this season and kids who thought they'd be playing aren't playing, that's when guys will start jumping in the portal. It's all rainbows and sunshine until the losses start piling up.lawsandl said:
Lol. A lot of the kids seem to be enjoying their time there.StrongArmCobra said:
For Oregon, it's about getting kids to commit based on the emotional high of a visit. Especially with the way Oregon's entire football staff suck these kids off during their visits. I can imagine it's quite intoxicating during their visits and makes them feel special. However, the reality is, once they sign with Oregon and get on campus, all that love and emotional high isn't there anymore. Oregon presents this mirage during their visits for kids and it's not at all the reality of day to day life in Eugene. So kids get on campus and are like "this shit isn't nearly as fun as I thought it would be. Eugene fucking sucks. I want to go home."creepycoug said:
That sounded racist man.greenblood said:
He’s making the decision after his Freshman year. Try reading an article before you fart.StrongArmCobra said:
So they gave up the most sacks? Got it.lawsandl said:
Mirabal developed at Marshall and they were always a leader in sacks given up. Pass pro has improved under him. Between Cristobal and Mirabal, they work well together.StrongArmCobra said:
Recruiting and signing guys are two different things. None of those guys are going to Oregon. Oregon is recruiting all the obvious elite kids just like everybody else. But you can see them lining up their "hidden gem" guys for when they inevitably whiff on all their top O-line targets.lawsandl said:
Hidden gems??? Oregon shows some interest and all of sudden they are chasing underrated recruits? Let me know when Oregon gives this kid an official visit. Until then Oregon is recruiting Rosengarten, Fryar, Hatcher and Harper. Last I check all 4 took official visits to other good schools.StrongArmCobra said:Ducks going hard after those "hidden gems" lol. They lose six lineman after this season and have to try to load up on "hidden gem" recruits to replace them. Must suck knowing UW can get this kid anytime they want. Not a lot of O-line talent in the state of Oregon this cycle. They have to come up here and try to take whatever scraps UW leaves behind.
Oregon ain't Bama. They can't recruit elite lineman from around the nation like Bama can and out West, most of the elite O-line recruits care about academics which puts Oregon at a disadvantage. It really doesn't matter that Cristobal is a blow hard O-line coach as a head coach. He will struggle consistently recruiting quality O-lineman at Oregon. That's why having an O-line coach and developer of talent like Greatwood was so important for Oregon's success during your golden era. Mario got demoted at Bama so he's not the O-line coach he's hyped up to be. He's an idiot meat head who sacrifices athleticism for size. On top of that, your actual O-line coach is a total nobody and looks like an elf.
Also, getting Sewell, Tauanu’u, and Aumavue-Laulu along with Jaramillo and Jones is an excellent haul. We’ll see where Rosengarten winds up.
Lastly, Oregon looks good for Harper and Rosengarten as well as Jeffers. I am sure Cristobal will put together a good haul.
Seriously though, Mirabal is a nobody. I don't think he's the kinda guy who can instill toughness in an O-line long term and I don't think he can recruit. Cristobal did all the heavy lifting for him last class and still could only get one legit Freshman for O-line in Jonah T. That's not enough.
O-line require depth. 2-3 good recruits in his first two classes isn't gonna cut it.
Oregon needs to replenish their O-line depth in the worst way and they won't be doing it with a lot of elite recruits. Better find and develop those hidden gems!
Also, if Mase Funa takes that 2-year mission he'll never play a down for Oregon. He'll go play somewhere else after his mission. Probably USC if they want him. Decommit U.
Also, rumors swirling Jonah T is next to transfer portal to SC. Probably after the season when SC has a scholarship available for him. The transfer portal is gonna fuck Oregon. So many soft commits conned into signing with Oregon and then having buyer's remorse soon after. Now they can just put themselves back on the market and be recruited all over again.
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He is full grown.backthepack said:
Sewell 260+ and he gunna get bigger. If he’s a LBer he gunna have an awfully tough time trying to cover and play in space.lawsandl said:
Mase isn’t a linebacker. I also think Oregon gets Noah Sewell and has a bright future at LB.StrongArmCobra said:
Oh sure. I'm sure you really think Oregon losing their highest rated LB commit ever and one of their top-3 OL signees since Helfrich wouldn't be a big deal. Do you see Oregon lighting it up in recruiting right now? Do you really think they can just easily replace those guys with equal or better talent down the road if they don't pan out and end up elsewhere? They won't.lawsandl said:
All your assessments depend on fortune telling and predicated in the worst possible scenario. You don’t hedge against this or live in world of probability but in an all or nothing world. Who gives a shit if Mase comes in as a fat ass and then leaves? It’s actually a good scenario. If he’s a badass he stays if not he has to earn his his schollie again. Likewise, linebacker and DL depth are in good shape.StrongArmCobra said:
It doesn't matter. He's not playing as a true Freshman due to the knee injury and being an out of shape fat ass. He'll redshirt. If he goes on a mission, that'll give him two years to watch Oregon remain mediocre. After his mission he's free to go wherever he wants and play immediately. He'll either go to USC or he'll be so fat and out of shape that Oregon won't even want him to come back. Like I said, if he takes that mission, he ain't doing shit at Oregon ever.greenblood said:
He’s making the decision after his Freshman year. Try reading an article before you fart.StrongArmCobra said:
So they gave up the most sacks? Got it.lawsandl said:
Mirabal developed at Marshall and they were always a leader in sacks given up. Pass pro has improved under him. Between Cristobal and Mirabal, they work well together.StrongArmCobra said:
Recruiting and signing guys are two different things. None of those guys are going to Oregon. Oregon is recruiting all the obvious elite kids just like everybody else. But you can see them lining up their "hidden gem" guys for when they inevitably whiff on all their top O-line targets.lawsandl said:
Hidden gems??? Oregon shows some interest and all of sudden they are chasing underrated recruits? Let me know when Oregon gives this kid an official visit. Until then Oregon is recruiting Rosengarten, Fryar, Hatcher and Harper. Last I check all 4 took official visits to other good schools.StrongArmCobra said:Ducks going hard after those "hidden gems" lol. They lose six lineman after this season and have to try to load up on "hidden gem" recruits to replace them. Must suck knowing UW can get this kid anytime they want. Not a lot of O-line talent in the state of Oregon this cycle. They have to come up here and try to take whatever scraps UW leaves behind.
Oregon ain't Bama. They can't recruit elite lineman from around the nation like Bama can and out West, most of the elite O-line recruits care about academics which puts Oregon at a disadvantage. It really doesn't matter that Cristobal is a blow hard O-line coach as a head coach. He will struggle consistently recruiting quality O-lineman at Oregon. That's why having an O-line coach and developer of talent like Greatwood was so important for Oregon's success during your golden era. Mario got demoted at Bama so he's not the O-line coach he's hyped up to be. He's an idiot meat head who sacrifices athleticism for size. On top of that, your actual O-line coach is a total nobody and looks like an elf.
Also, getting Sewell, Tauanu’u, and Aumavue-Laulu along with Jaramillo and Jones is an excellent haul. We’ll see where Rosengarten winds up.
Lastly, Oregon looks good for Harper and Rosengarten as well as Jeffers. I am sure Cristobal will put together a good haul.
Seriously though, Mirabal is a nobody. I don't think he's the kinda guy who can instill toughness in an O-line long term and I don't think he can recruit. Cristobal did all the heavy lifting for him last class and still could only get one legit Freshman for O-line in Jonah T. That's not enough.
O-line require depth. 2-3 good recruits in his first two classes isn't gonna cut it.
Oregon needs to replenish their O-line depth in the worst way and they won't be doing it with a lot of elite recruits. Better find and develop those hidden gems!
Also, if Mase Funa takes that 2-year mission he'll never play a down for Oregon. He'll go play somewhere else after his mission. Probably USC if they want him. Decommit U.
Also, rumors swirling Jonah T is next to transfer portal to SC. Probably after the season when SC has a scholarship available for him. The transfer portal is gonna fuck Oregon. So many soft commits conned into signing with Oregon and then having buyer's remorse soon after. Now they can just put themselves back on the market and be recruited all over again.
As for OL, if Jonah is on campus for a year and wants to be at USC, so be it. The nice thing about the portal is it goes both ways. Cristobal will fill spots and get good players.
Mase ends up at DL. I am not sure what will go into his decision to take a mission but like many before him, future NFL potential will be a big factor. If he has that, I am sure that will be manifest itself.
As for Jonah, I obviously prefer he stick. That being said, I see boom or bust. I think the kid has some growing up to do. If he does that, he’s got all the talent in the world. I can’t imagine an elite talent wanting to wait a year to play.
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Petersen has 2/3 conference championships and a fiesta 10 win season the year in between. He also has a proven record on the road including closing out division champ games.creepycoug said:
Haie, almost everything you wrote could be said of any Division 1 program in the country.StrongArmCobra said:
There's nothing but optimism within Oregon's program right now. They are projected by the media to compete for the Pac-12 title. They have a top draft pick at QB who's a 4-year starter. But when they fail to meet those expectations this season and kids who thought they'd be playing aren't playing, that's when guys will start jumping in the portal. It's all rainbows and sunshine until the losses start piling up.lawsandl said:
Lol. A lot of the kids seem to be enjoying their time there.StrongArmCobra said:
For Oregon, it's about getting kids to commit based on the emotional high of a visit. Especially with the way Oregon's entire football staff suck these kids off during their visits. I can imagine it's quite intoxicating during their visits and makes them feel special. However, the reality is, once they sign with Oregon and get on campus, all that love and emotional high isn't there anymore. Oregon presents this mirage during their visits for kids and it's not at all the reality of day to day life in Eugene. So kids get on campus and are like "this shit isn't nearly as fun as I thought it would be. Eugene fucking sucks. I want to go home."creepycoug said:
That sounded racist man.greenblood said:
He’s making the decision after his Freshman year. Try reading an article before you fart.StrongArmCobra said:
So they gave up the most sacks? Got it.lawsandl said:
Mirabal developed at Marshall and they were always a leader in sacks given up. Pass pro has improved under him. Between Cristobal and Mirabal, they work well together.StrongArmCobra said:
Recruiting and signing guys are two different things. None of those guys are going to Oregon. Oregon is recruiting all the obvious elite kids just like everybody else. But you can see them lining up their "hidden gem" guys for when they inevitably whiff on all their top O-line targets.lawsandl said:
Hidden gems??? Oregon shows some interest and all of sudden they are chasing underrated recruits? Let me know when Oregon gives this kid an official visit. Until then Oregon is recruiting Rosengarten, Fryar, Hatcher and Harper. Last I check all 4 took official visits to other good schools.StrongArmCobra said:Ducks going hard after those "hidden gems" lol. They lose six lineman after this season and have to try to load up on "hidden gem" recruits to replace them. Must suck knowing UW can get this kid anytime they want. Not a lot of O-line talent in the state of Oregon this cycle. They have to come up here and try to take whatever scraps UW leaves behind.
Oregon ain't Bama. They can't recruit elite lineman from around the nation like Bama can and out West, most of the elite O-line recruits care about academics which puts Oregon at a disadvantage. It really doesn't matter that Cristobal is a blow hard O-line coach as a head coach. He will struggle consistently recruiting quality O-lineman at Oregon. That's why having an O-line coach and developer of talent like Greatwood was so important for Oregon's success during your golden era. Mario got demoted at Bama so he's not the O-line coach he's hyped up to be. He's an idiot meat head who sacrifices athleticism for size. On top of that, your actual O-line coach is a total nobody and looks like an elf.
Also, getting Sewell, Tauanu’u, and Aumavue-Laulu along with Jaramillo and Jones is an excellent haul. We’ll see where Rosengarten winds up.
Lastly, Oregon looks good for Harper and Rosengarten as well as Jeffers. I am sure Cristobal will put together a good haul.
Seriously though, Mirabal is a nobody. I don't think he's the kinda guy who can instill toughness in an O-line long term and I don't think he can recruit. Cristobal did all the heavy lifting for him last class and still could only get one legit Freshman for O-line in Jonah T. That's not enough.
O-line require depth. 2-3 good recruits in his first two classes isn't gonna cut it.
Oregon needs to replenish their O-line depth in the worst way and they won't be doing it with a lot of elite recruits. Better find and develop those hidden gems!
Also, if Mase Funa takes that 2-year mission he'll never play a down for Oregon. He'll go play somewhere else after his mission. Probably USC if they want him. Decommit U.
Also, rumors swirling Jonah T is next to transfer portal to SC. Probably after the season when SC has a scholarship available for him. The transfer portal is gonna fuck Oregon. So many soft commits conned into signing with Oregon and then having buyer's remorse soon after. Now they can just put themselves back on the market and be recruited all over again.
The PAC 12 title talk is stupid but that's sports media and dumb fans.
But remind me what Petersen's record was his third year at Washington? I forget.
Remind me what the two coaches have in common. -
Mase isn't a linebacker but Sewell is? What? Sewell is 270 pounds as a Junior in high school. He's not playing linebacker in college. He looks like a little fat Elijah Qualls, except Qualls played RB in high school instead of ILB. Oregon's D-line recruiting and LB recruiting is very mediocre right now compared to UW right now and the Chip Kelly era at Oregon.lawsandl said:
Mase isn’t a linebacker. I also think Oregon gets Noah Sewell and has a bright future at LB.StrongArmCobra said:
Oh sure. I'm sure you really think Oregon losing their highest rated LB commit ever and one of their top-3 OL signees since Helfrich wouldn't be a big deal. Do you see Oregon lighting it up in recruiting right now? Do you really think they can just easily replace those guys with equal or better talent down the road if they don't pan out and end up elsewhere? They won't.lawsandl said:
All your assessments depend on fortune telling and predicated in the worst possible scenario. You don’t hedge against this or live in world of probability but in an all or nothing world. Who gives a shit if Mase comes in as a fat ass and then leaves? It’s actually a good scenario. If he’s a badass he stays if not he has to earn his his schollie again. Likewise, linebacker and DL depth are in good shape.StrongArmCobra said:
It doesn't matter. He's not playing as a true Freshman due to the knee injury and being an out of shape fat ass. He'll redshirt. If he goes on a mission, that'll give him two years to watch Oregon remain mediocre. After his mission he's free to go wherever he wants and play immediately. He'll either go to USC or he'll be so fat and out of shape that Oregon won't even want him to come back. Like I said, if he takes that mission, he ain't doing shit at Oregon ever.greenblood said:
He’s making the decision after his Freshman year. Try reading an article before you fart.StrongArmCobra said:
So they gave up the most sacks? Got it.lawsandl said:
Mirabal developed at Marshall and they were always a leader in sacks given up. Pass pro has improved under him. Between Cristobal and Mirabal, they work well together.StrongArmCobra said:
Recruiting and signing guys are two different things. None of those guys are going to Oregon. Oregon is recruiting all the obvious elite kids just like everybody else. But you can see them lining up their "hidden gem" guys for when they inevitably whiff on all their top O-line targets.lawsandl said:
Hidden gems??? Oregon shows some interest and all of sudden they are chasing underrated recruits? Let me know when Oregon gives this kid an official visit. Until then Oregon is recruiting Rosengarten, Fryar, Hatcher and Harper. Last I check all 4 took official visits to other good schools.StrongArmCobra said:Ducks going hard after those "hidden gems" lol. They lose six lineman after this season and have to try to load up on "hidden gem" recruits to replace them. Must suck knowing UW can get this kid anytime they want. Not a lot of O-line talent in the state of Oregon this cycle. They have to come up here and try to take whatever scraps UW leaves behind.
Oregon ain't Bama. They can't recruit elite lineman from around the nation like Bama can and out West, most of the elite O-line recruits care about academics which puts Oregon at a disadvantage. It really doesn't matter that Cristobal is a blow hard O-line coach as a head coach. He will struggle consistently recruiting quality O-lineman at Oregon. That's why having an O-line coach and developer of talent like Greatwood was so important for Oregon's success during your golden era. Mario got demoted at Bama so he's not the O-line coach he's hyped up to be. He's an idiot meat head who sacrifices athleticism for size. On top of that, your actual O-line coach is a total nobody and looks like an elf.
Also, getting Sewell, Tauanu’u, and Aumavue-Laulu along with Jaramillo and Jones is an excellent haul. We’ll see where Rosengarten winds up.
Lastly, Oregon looks good for Harper and Rosengarten as well as Jeffers. I am sure Cristobal will put together a good haul.
Seriously though, Mirabal is a nobody. I don't think he's the kinda guy who can instill toughness in an O-line long term and I don't think he can recruit. Cristobal did all the heavy lifting for him last class and still could only get one legit Freshman for O-line in Jonah T. That's not enough.
O-line require depth. 2-3 good recruits in his first two classes isn't gonna cut it.
Oregon needs to replenish their O-line depth in the worst way and they won't be doing it with a lot of elite recruits. Better find and develop those hidden gems!
Also, if Mase Funa takes that 2-year mission he'll never play a down for Oregon. He'll go play somewhere else after his mission. Probably USC if they want him. Decommit U.
Also, rumors swirling Jonah T is next to transfer portal to SC. Probably after the season when SC has a scholarship available for him. The transfer portal is gonna fuck Oregon. So many soft commits conned into signing with Oregon and then having buyer's remorse soon after. Now they can just put themselves back on the market and be recruited all over again.
As for OL, if Jonah is on campus for a year and wants to be at USC, so be it. The nice thing about the portal is it goes both ways. Cristobal will fill spots and get good players.
Mase ends up at DL. I am not sure what will go into his decision to take a mission but like many before him, future NFL potential will be a big factor. If he has that, I am sure that will be manifest itself.
As for Jonah, I obviously prefer he stick. That being said, I see boom or bust. I think the kid has some growing up to do. If he does that, he’s got all the talent in the world. I can’t imagine an elite talent wanting to wait a year to play. -
So is he just gonna stop eating and never lift weights the rest of his career or what? He's too big to be an ILB in college. Oregon won't be getting any good LB's this class.lawsandl said:
He is full grown.backthepack said:
Sewell 260+ and he gunna get bigger. If he’s a LBer he gunna have an awfully tough time trying to cover and play in space.lawsandl said:
Mase isn’t a linebacker. I also think Oregon gets Noah Sewell and has a bright future at LB.StrongArmCobra said:
Oh sure. I'm sure you really think Oregon losing their highest rated LB commit ever and one of their top-3 OL signees since Helfrich wouldn't be a big deal. Do you see Oregon lighting it up in recruiting right now? Do you really think they can just easily replace those guys with equal or better talent down the road if they don't pan out and end up elsewhere? They won't.lawsandl said:
All your assessments depend on fortune telling and predicated in the worst possible scenario. You don’t hedge against this or live in world of probability but in an all or nothing world. Who gives a shit if Mase comes in as a fat ass and then leaves? It’s actually a good scenario. If he’s a badass he stays if not he has to earn his his schollie again. Likewise, linebacker and DL depth are in good shape.StrongArmCobra said:
It doesn't matter. He's not playing as a true Freshman due to the knee injury and being an out of shape fat ass. He'll redshirt. If he goes on a mission, that'll give him two years to watch Oregon remain mediocre. After his mission he's free to go wherever he wants and play immediately. He'll either go to USC or he'll be so fat and out of shape that Oregon won't even want him to come back. Like I said, if he takes that mission, he ain't doing shit at Oregon ever.greenblood said:
He’s making the decision after his Freshman year. Try reading an article before you fart.StrongArmCobra said:
So they gave up the most sacks? Got it.lawsandl said:
Mirabal developed at Marshall and they were always a leader in sacks given up. Pass pro has improved under him. Between Cristobal and Mirabal, they work well together.StrongArmCobra said:
Recruiting and signing guys are two different things. None of those guys are going to Oregon. Oregon is recruiting all the obvious elite kids just like everybody else. But you can see them lining up their "hidden gem" guys for when they inevitably whiff on all their top O-line targets.lawsandl said:
Hidden gems??? Oregon shows some interest and all of sudden they are chasing underrated recruits? Let me know when Oregon gives this kid an official visit. Until then Oregon is recruiting Rosengarten, Fryar, Hatcher and Harper. Last I check all 4 took official visits to other good schools.StrongArmCobra said:Ducks going hard after those "hidden gems" lol. They lose six lineman after this season and have to try to load up on "hidden gem" recruits to replace them. Must suck knowing UW can get this kid anytime they want. Not a lot of O-line talent in the state of Oregon this cycle. They have to come up here and try to take whatever scraps UW leaves behind.
Oregon ain't Bama. They can't recruit elite lineman from around the nation like Bama can and out West, most of the elite O-line recruits care about academics which puts Oregon at a disadvantage. It really doesn't matter that Cristobal is a blow hard O-line coach as a head coach. He will struggle consistently recruiting quality O-lineman at Oregon. That's why having an O-line coach and developer of talent like Greatwood was so important for Oregon's success during your golden era. Mario got demoted at Bama so he's not the O-line coach he's hyped up to be. He's an idiot meat head who sacrifices athleticism for size. On top of that, your actual O-line coach is a total nobody and looks like an elf.
Also, getting Sewell, Tauanu’u, and Aumavue-Laulu along with Jaramillo and Jones is an excellent haul. We’ll see where Rosengarten winds up.
Lastly, Oregon looks good for Harper and Rosengarten as well as Jeffers. I am sure Cristobal will put together a good haul.
Seriously though, Mirabal is a nobody. I don't think he's the kinda guy who can instill toughness in an O-line long term and I don't think he can recruit. Cristobal did all the heavy lifting for him last class and still could only get one legit Freshman for O-line in Jonah T. That's not enough.
O-line require depth. 2-3 good recruits in his first two classes isn't gonna cut it.
Oregon needs to replenish their O-line depth in the worst way and they won't be doing it with a lot of elite recruits. Better find and develop those hidden gems!
Also, if Mase Funa takes that 2-year mission he'll never play a down for Oregon. He'll go play somewhere else after his mission. Probably USC if they want him. Decommit U.
Also, rumors swirling Jonah T is next to transfer portal to SC. Probably after the season when SC has a scholarship available for him. The transfer portal is gonna fuck Oregon. So many soft commits conned into signing with Oregon and then having buyer's remorse soon after. Now they can just put themselves back on the market and be recruited all over again.
As for OL, if Jonah is on campus for a year and wants to be at USC, so be it. The nice thing about the portal is it goes both ways. Cristobal will fill spots and get good players.
Mase ends up at DL. I am not sure what will go into his decision to take a mission but like many before him, future NFL potential will be a big factor. If he has that, I am sure that will be manifest itself.
As for Jonah, I obviously prefer he stick. That being said, I see boom or bust. I think the kid has some growing up to do. If he does that, he’s got all the talent in the world. I can’t imagine an elite talent wanting to wait a year to play. -
And Seattle is better? It’s the 2nd biggest shit hole city on the west coast behind San Francisco. Seattle and Portland both have that sweet smell of shit and urine when you stroll downtown. The only difference is that Seattle is bigger and has a little more smog to hold that smell in.StrongArmCobra said:
For Oregon, it's about getting kids to commit based on the emotional high of a visit. Especially with the way Oregon's entire football staff suck these kids off during their visits. I can imagine it's quite intoxicating during their visits and makes them feel special. However, the reality is, once they sign with Oregon and get on campus, all that love and emotional high isn't there anymore. Oregon presents this mirage during their visits for kids and it's not at all the reality of day to day life in Eugene. So kids get on campus and are like "this shit isn't nearly as fun as I thought it would be. Eugene fucking sucks. I want to go home."creepycoug said:
That sounded racist man.greenblood said:
He’s making the decision after his Freshman year. Try reading an article before you fart.StrongArmCobra said:
So they gave up the most sacks? Got it.lawsandl said:
Mirabal developed at Marshall and they were always a leader in sacks given up. Pass pro has improved under him. Between Cristobal and Mirabal, they work well together.StrongArmCobra said:
Recruiting and signing guys are two different things. None of those guys are going to Oregon. Oregon is recruiting all the obvious elite kids just like everybody else. But you can see them lining up their "hidden gem" guys for when they inevitably whiff on all their top O-line targets.lawsandl said:
Hidden gems??? Oregon shows some interest and all of sudden they are chasing underrated recruits? Let me know when Oregon gives this kid an official visit. Until then Oregon is recruiting Rosengarten, Fryar, Hatcher and Harper. Last I check all 4 took official visits to other good schools.StrongArmCobra said:Ducks going hard after those "hidden gems" lol. They lose six lineman after this season and have to try to load up on "hidden gem" recruits to replace them. Must suck knowing UW can get this kid anytime they want. Not a lot of O-line talent in the state of Oregon this cycle. They have to come up here and try to take whatever scraps UW leaves behind.
Oregon ain't Bama. They can't recruit elite lineman from around the nation like Bama can and out West, most of the elite O-line recruits care about academics which puts Oregon at a disadvantage. It really doesn't matter that Cristobal is a blow hard O-line coach as a head coach. He will struggle consistently recruiting quality O-lineman at Oregon. That's why having an O-line coach and developer of talent like Greatwood was so important for Oregon's success during your golden era. Mario got demoted at Bama so he's not the O-line coach he's hyped up to be. He's an idiot meat head who sacrifices athleticism for size. On top of that, your actual O-line coach is a total nobody and looks like an elf.
Also, getting Sewell, Tauanu’u, and Aumavue-Laulu along with Jaramillo and Jones is an excellent haul. We’ll see where Rosengarten winds up.
Lastly, Oregon looks good for Harper and Rosengarten as well as Jeffers. I am sure Cristobal will put together a good haul.
Seriously though, Mirabal is a nobody. I don't think he's the kinda guy who can instill toughness in an O-line long term and I don't think he can recruit. Cristobal did all the heavy lifting for him last class and still could only get one legit Freshman for O-line in Jonah T. That's not enough.
O-line require depth. 2-3 good recruits in his first two classes isn't gonna cut it.
Oregon needs to replenish their O-line depth in the worst way and they won't be doing it with a lot of elite recruits. Better find and develop those hidden gems!
Also, if Mase Funa takes that 2-year mission he'll never play a down for Oregon. He'll go play somewhere else after his mission. Probably USC if they want him. Decommit U.
Also, rumors swirling Jonah T is next to transfer portal to SC. Probably after the season when SC has a scholarship available for him. The transfer portal is gonna fuck Oregon. So many soft commits conned into signing with Oregon and then having buyer's remorse soon after. Now they can just put themselves back on the market and be recruited all over again. -
Oh Haie! What are you doing here?haie said:
Petersen has 2/3 conference championships and a fiesta 10 win season the year in between. He also has a proven record on the road including closing out division champ games.creepycoug said:
Haie, almost everything you wrote could be said of any Division 1 program in the country.StrongArmCobra said:
There's nothing but optimism within Oregon's program right now. They are projected by the media to compete for the Pac-12 title. They have a top draft pick at QB who's a 4-year starter. But when they fail to meet those expectations this season and kids who thought they'd be playing aren't playing, that's when guys will start jumping in the portal. It's all rainbows and sunshine until the losses start piling up.lawsandl said:
Lol. A lot of the kids seem to be enjoying their time there.StrongArmCobra said:
For Oregon, it's about getting kids to commit based on the emotional high of a visit. Especially with the way Oregon's entire football staff suck these kids off during their visits. I can imagine it's quite intoxicating during their visits and makes them feel special. However, the reality is, once they sign with Oregon and get on campus, all that love and emotional high isn't there anymore. Oregon presents this mirage during their visits for kids and it's not at all the reality of day to day life in Eugene. So kids get on campus and are like "this shit isn't nearly as fun as I thought it would be. Eugene fucking sucks. I want to go home."creepycoug said:
That sounded racist man.greenblood said:
He’s making the decision after his Freshman year. Try reading an article before you fart.StrongArmCobra said:
So they gave up the most sacks? Got it.lawsandl said:
Mirabal developed at Marshall and they were always a leader in sacks given up. Pass pro has improved under him. Between Cristobal and Mirabal, they work well together.StrongArmCobra said:
Recruiting and signing guys are two different things. None of those guys are going to Oregon. Oregon is recruiting all the obvious elite kids just like everybody else. But you can see them lining up their "hidden gem" guys for when they inevitably whiff on all their top O-line targets.lawsandl said:
Hidden gems??? Oregon shows some interest and all of sudden they are chasing underrated recruits? Let me know when Oregon gives this kid an official visit. Until then Oregon is recruiting Rosengarten, Fryar, Hatcher and Harper. Last I check all 4 took official visits to other good schools.StrongArmCobra said:Ducks going hard after those "hidden gems" lol. They lose six lineman after this season and have to try to load up on "hidden gem" recruits to replace them. Must suck knowing UW can get this kid anytime they want. Not a lot of O-line talent in the state of Oregon this cycle. They have to come up here and try to take whatever scraps UW leaves behind.
Oregon ain't Bama. They can't recruit elite lineman from around the nation like Bama can and out West, most of the elite O-line recruits care about academics which puts Oregon at a disadvantage. It really doesn't matter that Cristobal is a blow hard O-line coach as a head coach. He will struggle consistently recruiting quality O-lineman at Oregon. That's why having an O-line coach and developer of talent like Greatwood was so important for Oregon's success during your golden era. Mario got demoted at Bama so he's not the O-line coach he's hyped up to be. He's an idiot meat head who sacrifices athleticism for size. On top of that, your actual O-line coach is a total nobody and looks like an elf.
Also, getting Sewell, Tauanu’u, and Aumavue-Laulu along with Jaramillo and Jones is an excellent haul. We’ll see where Rosengarten winds up.
Lastly, Oregon looks good for Harper and Rosengarten as well as Jeffers. I am sure Cristobal will put together a good haul.
Seriously though, Mirabal is a nobody. I don't think he's the kinda guy who can instill toughness in an O-line long term and I don't think he can recruit. Cristobal did all the heavy lifting for him last class and still could only get one legit Freshman for O-line in Jonah T. That's not enough.
O-line require depth. 2-3 good recruits in his first two classes isn't gonna cut it.
Oregon needs to replenish their O-line depth in the worst way and they won't be doing it with a lot of elite recruits. Better find and develop those hidden gems!
Also, if Mase Funa takes that 2-year mission he'll never play a down for Oregon. He'll go play somewhere else after his mission. Probably USC if they want him. Decommit U.
Also, rumors swirling Jonah T is next to transfer portal to SC. Probably after the season when SC has a scholarship available for him. The transfer portal is gonna fuck Oregon. So many soft commits conned into signing with Oregon and then having buyer's remorse soon after. Now they can just put themselves back on the market and be recruited all over again.
The PAC 12 title talk is stupid but that's sports media and dumb fans.
But remind me what Petersen's record was his third year at Washington? I forget.
Remind me what the two coaches have in common. -
It’s curtains for the Duck program!!!
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If you define “lighting it up” being the #1 recruiting class in the PAC 12 “ right now”, I would say yes the Ducks are.StrongArmCobra said:
Oh sure. I'm sure you really think Oregon losing their highest rated LB commit ever and one of their top-3 OL signees since Helfrich wouldn't be a big deal. Do you see Oregon lighting it up in recruiting right now? Do you really think they can just easily replace those guys with equal or better talent down the road if they don't pan out and end up elsewhere? They won't.lawsandl said:
All your assessments depend on fortune telling and predicated in the worst possible scenario. You don’t hedge against this or live in world of probability but in an all or nothing world. Who gives a shit if Mase comes in as a fat ass and then leaves? It’s actually a good scenario. If he’s a badass he stays if not he has to earn his his schollie again. Likewise, linebacker and DL depth are in good shape.StrongArmCobra said:
It doesn't matter. He's not playing as a true Freshman due to the knee injury and being an out of shape fat ass. He'll redshirt. If he goes on a mission, that'll give him two years to watch Oregon remain mediocre. After his mission he's free to go wherever he wants and play immediately. He'll either go to USC or he'll be so fat and out of shape that Oregon won't even want him to come back. Like I said, if he takes that mission, he ain't doing shit at Oregon ever.greenblood said:
He’s making the decision after his Freshman year. Try reading an article before you fart.StrongArmCobra said:
So they gave up the most sacks? Got it.lawsandl said:
Mirabal developed at Marshall and they were always a leader in sacks given up. Pass pro has improved under him. Between Cristobal and Mirabal, they work well together.StrongArmCobra said:
Recruiting and signing guys are two different things. None of those guys are going to Oregon. Oregon is recruiting all the obvious elite kids just like everybody else. But you can see them lining up their "hidden gem" guys for when they inevitably whiff on all their top O-line targets.lawsandl said:
Hidden gems??? Oregon shows some interest and all of sudden they are chasing underrated recruits? Let me know when Oregon gives this kid an official visit. Until then Oregon is recruiting Rosengarten, Fryar, Hatcher and Harper. Last I check all 4 took official visits to other good schools.StrongArmCobra said:Ducks going hard after those "hidden gems" lol. They lose six lineman after this season and have to try to load up on "hidden gem" recruits to replace them. Must suck knowing UW can get this kid anytime they want. Not a lot of O-line talent in the state of Oregon this cycle. They have to come up here and try to take whatever scraps UW leaves behind.
Oregon ain't Bama. They can't recruit elite lineman from around the nation like Bama can and out West, most of the elite O-line recruits care about academics which puts Oregon at a disadvantage. It really doesn't matter that Cristobal is a blow hard O-line coach as a head coach. He will struggle consistently recruiting quality O-lineman at Oregon. That's why having an O-line coach and developer of talent like Greatwood was so important for Oregon's success during your golden era. Mario got demoted at Bama so he's not the O-line coach he's hyped up to be. He's an idiot meat head who sacrifices athleticism for size. On top of that, your actual O-line coach is a total nobody and looks like an elf.
Also, getting Sewell, Tauanu’u, and Aumavue-Laulu along with Jaramillo and Jones is an excellent haul. We’ll see where Rosengarten winds up.
Lastly, Oregon looks good for Harper and Rosengarten as well as Jeffers. I am sure Cristobal will put together a good haul.
Seriously though, Mirabal is a nobody. I don't think he's the kinda guy who can instill toughness in an O-line long term and I don't think he can recruit. Cristobal did all the heavy lifting for him last class and still could only get one legit Freshman for O-line in Jonah T. That's not enough.
O-line require depth. 2-3 good recruits in his first two classes isn't gonna cut it.
Oregon needs to replenish their O-line depth in the worst way and they won't be doing it with a lot of elite recruits. Better find and develop those hidden gems!
Also, if Mase Funa takes that 2-year mission he'll never play a down for Oregon. He'll go play somewhere else after his mission. Probably USC if they want him. Decommit U.
Also, rumors swirling Jonah T is next to transfer portal to SC. Probably after the season when SC has a scholarship available for him. The transfer portal is gonna fuck Oregon. So many soft commits conned into signing with Oregon and then having buyer's remorse soon after. Now they can just put themselves back on the market and be recruited all over again.
As for OL, if Jonah is on campus for a year and wants to be at USC, so be it. The nice thing about the portal is it goes both ways. Cristobal will fill spots and get good players.
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Smoke and mirrors. We all know a bunch of them have not shut down their recruiting process, are not actually COMMITTED, and will not be signing with Oregon when it's all said and done.DJDuck said:
If you define “lighting it up” being the #1 recruiting class in the PAC 12 “ right now”, I would say yes the Ducks are.StrongArmCobra said:
Oh sure. I'm sure you really think Oregon losing their highest rated LB commit ever and one of their top-3 OL signees since Helfrich wouldn't be a big deal. Do you see Oregon lighting it up in recruiting right now? Do you really think they can just easily replace those guys with equal or better talent down the road if they don't pan out and end up elsewhere? They won't.lawsandl said:
All your assessments depend on fortune telling and predicated in the worst possible scenario. You don’t hedge against this or live in world of probability but in an all or nothing world. Who gives a shit if Mase comes in as a fat ass and then leaves? It’s actually a good scenario. If he’s a badass he stays if not he has to earn his his schollie again. Likewise, linebacker and DL depth are in good shape.StrongArmCobra said:
It doesn't matter. He's not playing as a true Freshman due to the knee injury and being an out of shape fat ass. He'll redshirt. If he goes on a mission, that'll give him two years to watch Oregon remain mediocre. After his mission he's free to go wherever he wants and play immediately. He'll either go to USC or he'll be so fat and out of shape that Oregon won't even want him to come back. Like I said, if he takes that mission, he ain't doing shit at Oregon ever.greenblood said:
He’s making the decision after his Freshman year. Try reading an article before you fart.StrongArmCobra said:
So they gave up the most sacks? Got it.lawsandl said:
Mirabal developed at Marshall and they were always a leader in sacks given up. Pass pro has improved under him. Between Cristobal and Mirabal, they work well together.StrongArmCobra said:
Recruiting and signing guys are two different things. None of those guys are going to Oregon. Oregon is recruiting all the obvious elite kids just like everybody else. But you can see them lining up their "hidden gem" guys for when they inevitably whiff on all their top O-line targets.lawsandl said:
Hidden gems??? Oregon shows some interest and all of sudden they are chasing underrated recruits? Let me know when Oregon gives this kid an official visit. Until then Oregon is recruiting Rosengarten, Fryar, Hatcher and Harper. Last I check all 4 took official visits to other good schools.StrongArmCobra said:Ducks going hard after those "hidden gems" lol. They lose six lineman after this season and have to try to load up on "hidden gem" recruits to replace them. Must suck knowing UW can get this kid anytime they want. Not a lot of O-line talent in the state of Oregon this cycle. They have to come up here and try to take whatever scraps UW leaves behind.
Oregon ain't Bama. They can't recruit elite lineman from around the nation like Bama can and out West, most of the elite O-line recruits care about academics which puts Oregon at a disadvantage. It really doesn't matter that Cristobal is a blow hard O-line coach as a head coach. He will struggle consistently recruiting quality O-lineman at Oregon. That's why having an O-line coach and developer of talent like Greatwood was so important for Oregon's success during your golden era. Mario got demoted at Bama so he's not the O-line coach he's hyped up to be. He's an idiot meat head who sacrifices athleticism for size. On top of that, your actual O-line coach is a total nobody and looks like an elf.
Also, getting Sewell, Tauanu’u, and Aumavue-Laulu along with Jaramillo and Jones is an excellent haul. We’ll see where Rosengarten winds up.
Lastly, Oregon looks good for Harper and Rosengarten as well as Jeffers. I am sure Cristobal will put together a good haul.
Seriously though, Mirabal is a nobody. I don't think he's the kinda guy who can instill toughness in an O-line long term and I don't think he can recruit. Cristobal did all the heavy lifting for him last class and still could only get one legit Freshman for O-line in Jonah T. That's not enough.
O-line require depth. 2-3 good recruits in his first two classes isn't gonna cut it.
Oregon needs to replenish their O-line depth in the worst way and they won't be doing it with a lot of elite recruits. Better find and develop those hidden gems!
Also, if Mase Funa takes that 2-year mission he'll never play a down for Oregon. He'll go play somewhere else after his mission. Probably USC if they want him. Decommit U.
Also, rumors swirling Jonah T is next to transfer portal to SC. Probably after the season when SC has a scholarship available for him. The transfer portal is gonna fuck Oregon. So many soft commits conned into signing with Oregon and then having buyer's remorse soon after. Now they can just put themselves back on the market and be recruited all over again.
As for OL, if Jonah is on campus for a year and wants to be at USC, so be it. The nice thing about the portal is it goes both ways. Cristobal will fill spots and get good players.
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I think Sewell will be fine. The kid has talent and he is athletic.backthepack said:
Sewell 260+ and he gunna get bigger. If he’s a LBer he gunna have an awfully tough time trying to cover and play in space.lawsandl said:
Mase isn’t a linebacker. I also think Oregon gets Noah Sewell and has a bright future at LB.StrongArmCobra said:
Oh sure. I'm sure you really think Oregon losing their highest rated LB commit ever and one of their top-3 OL signees since Helfrich wouldn't be a big deal. Do you see Oregon lighting it up in recruiting right now? Do you really think they can just easily replace those guys with equal or better talent down the road if they don't pan out and end up elsewhere? They won't.lawsandl said:
All your assessments depend on fortune telling and predicated in the worst possible scenario. You don’t hedge against this or live in world of probability but in an all or nothing world. Who gives a shit if Mase comes in as a fat ass and then leaves? It’s actually a good scenario. If he’s a badass he stays if not he has to earn his his schollie again. Likewise, linebacker and DL depth are in good shape.StrongArmCobra said:
It doesn't matter. He's not playing as a true Freshman due to the knee injury and being an out of shape fat ass. He'll redshirt. If he goes on a mission, that'll give him two years to watch Oregon remain mediocre. After his mission he's free to go wherever he wants and play immediately. He'll either go to USC or he'll be so fat and out of shape that Oregon won't even want him to come back. Like I said, if he takes that mission, he ain't doing shit at Oregon ever.greenblood said:
He’s making the decision after his Freshman year. Try reading an article before you fart.StrongArmCobra said:
So they gave up the most sacks? Got it.lawsandl said:
Mirabal developed at Marshall and they were always a leader in sacks given up. Pass pro has improved under him. Between Cristobal and Mirabal, they work well together.StrongArmCobra said:
Recruiting and signing guys are two different things. None of those guys are going to Oregon. Oregon is recruiting all the obvious elite kids just like everybody else. But you can see them lining up their "hidden gem" guys for when they inevitably whiff on all their top O-line targets.lawsandl said:
Hidden gems??? Oregon shows some interest and all of sudden they are chasing underrated recruits? Let me know when Oregon gives this kid an official visit. Until then Oregon is recruiting Rosengarten, Fryar, Hatcher and Harper. Last I check all 4 took official visits to other good schools.StrongArmCobra said:Ducks going hard after those "hidden gems" lol. They lose six lineman after this season and have to try to load up on "hidden gem" recruits to replace them. Must suck knowing UW can get this kid anytime they want. Not a lot of O-line talent in the state of Oregon this cycle. They have to come up here and try to take whatever scraps UW leaves behind.
Oregon ain't Bama. They can't recruit elite lineman from around the nation like Bama can and out West, most of the elite O-line recruits care about academics which puts Oregon at a disadvantage. It really doesn't matter that Cristobal is a blow hard O-line coach as a head coach. He will struggle consistently recruiting quality O-lineman at Oregon. That's why having an O-line coach and developer of talent like Greatwood was so important for Oregon's success during your golden era. Mario got demoted at Bama so he's not the O-line coach he's hyped up to be. He's an idiot meat head who sacrifices athleticism for size. On top of that, your actual O-line coach is a total nobody and looks like an elf.
Also, getting Sewell, Tauanu’u, and Aumavue-Laulu along with Jaramillo and Jones is an excellent haul. We’ll see where Rosengarten winds up.
Lastly, Oregon looks good for Harper and Rosengarten as well as Jeffers. I am sure Cristobal will put together a good haul.
Seriously though, Mirabal is a nobody. I don't think he's the kinda guy who can instill toughness in an O-line long term and I don't think he can recruit. Cristobal did all the heavy lifting for him last class and still could only get one legit Freshman for O-line in Jonah T. That's not enough.
O-line require depth. 2-3 good recruits in his first two classes isn't gonna cut it.
Oregon needs to replenish their O-line depth in the worst way and they won't be doing it with a lot of elite recruits. Better find and develop those hidden gems!
Also, if Mase Funa takes that 2-year mission he'll never play a down for Oregon. He'll go play somewhere else after his mission. Probably USC if they want him. Decommit U.
Also, rumors swirling Jonah T is next to transfer portal to SC. Probably after the season when SC has a scholarship available for him. The transfer portal is gonna fuck Oregon. So many soft commits conned into signing with Oregon and then having buyer's remorse soon after. Now they can just put themselves back on the market and be recruited all over again.
As for OL, if Jonah is on campus for a year and wants to be at USC, so be it. The nice thing about the portal is it goes both ways. Cristobal will fill spots and get good players.
Mase ends up at DL. I am not sure what will go into his decision to take a mission but like many before him, future NFL potential will be a big factor. If he has that, I am sure that will be manifest itself.
As for Jonah, I obviously prefer he stick. That being said, I see boom or bust. I think the kid has some growing up to do. If he does that, he’s got all the talent in the world. I can’t imagine an elite talent wanting to wait a year to play.
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I live in Seattle. There's no smog and no smell. It's one of the best big cities in the country. Very clean environment. Good people. Beautiful scenery. DIVERSE community. A lot of job opportunities. Good food too and a shit load of restaurants to choose from.greenblood said:
And Seattle is better? It’s the 2nd biggest shit hole city on the west coast behind San Francisco. Seattle and Portland both have that sweet smell of shit and urine when you stroll downtown. The only difference is that Seattle is bigger and has a little more smog to hold that smell in.StrongArmCobra said:
For Oregon, it's about getting kids to commit based on the emotional high of a visit. Especially with the way Oregon's entire football staff suck these kids off during their visits. I can imagine it's quite intoxicating during their visits and makes them feel special. However, the reality is, once they sign with Oregon and get on campus, all that love and emotional high isn't there anymore. Oregon presents this mirage during their visits for kids and it's not at all the reality of day to day life in Eugene. So kids get on campus and are like "this shit isn't nearly as fun as I thought it would be. Eugene fucking sucks. I want to go home."creepycoug said:
That sounded racist man.greenblood said:
He’s making the decision after his Freshman year. Try reading an article before you fart.StrongArmCobra said:
So they gave up the most sacks? Got it.lawsandl said:
Mirabal developed at Marshall and they were always a leader in sacks given up. Pass pro has improved under him. Between Cristobal and Mirabal, they work well together.StrongArmCobra said:
Recruiting and signing guys are two different things. None of those guys are going to Oregon. Oregon is recruiting all the obvious elite kids just like everybody else. But you can see them lining up their "hidden gem" guys for when they inevitably whiff on all their top O-line targets.lawsandl said:
Hidden gems??? Oregon shows some interest and all of sudden they are chasing underrated recruits? Let me know when Oregon gives this kid an official visit. Until then Oregon is recruiting Rosengarten, Fryar, Hatcher and Harper. Last I check all 4 took official visits to other good schools.StrongArmCobra said:Ducks going hard after those "hidden gems" lol. They lose six lineman after this season and have to try to load up on "hidden gem" recruits to replace them. Must suck knowing UW can get this kid anytime they want. Not a lot of O-line talent in the state of Oregon this cycle. They have to come up here and try to take whatever scraps UW leaves behind.
Oregon ain't Bama. They can't recruit elite lineman from around the nation like Bama can and out West, most of the elite O-line recruits care about academics which puts Oregon at a disadvantage. It really doesn't matter that Cristobal is a blow hard O-line coach as a head coach. He will struggle consistently recruiting quality O-lineman at Oregon. That's why having an O-line coach and developer of talent like Greatwood was so important for Oregon's success during your golden era. Mario got demoted at Bama so he's not the O-line coach he's hyped up to be. He's an idiot meat head who sacrifices athleticism for size. On top of that, your actual O-line coach is a total nobody and looks like an elf.
Also, getting Sewell, Tauanu’u, and Aumavue-Laulu along with Jaramillo and Jones is an excellent haul. We’ll see where Rosengarten winds up.
Lastly, Oregon looks good for Harper and Rosengarten as well as Jeffers. I am sure Cristobal will put together a good haul.
Seriously though, Mirabal is a nobody. I don't think he's the kinda guy who can instill toughness in an O-line long term and I don't think he can recruit. Cristobal did all the heavy lifting for him last class and still could only get one legit Freshman for O-line in Jonah T. That's not enough.
O-line require depth. 2-3 good recruits in his first two classes isn't gonna cut it.
Oregon needs to replenish their O-line depth in the worst way and they won't be doing it with a lot of elite recruits. Better find and develop those hidden gems!
Also, if Mase Funa takes that 2-year mission he'll never play a down for Oregon. He'll go play somewhere else after his mission. Probably USC if they want him. Decommit U.
Also, rumors swirling Jonah T is next to transfer portal to SC. Probably after the season when SC has a scholarship available for him. The transfer portal is gonna fuck Oregon. So many soft commits conned into signing with Oregon and then having buyer's remorse soon after. Now they can just put themselves back on the market and be recruited all over again.
I've been to Eugene. Now that's a little shit hole crawling with meth and heroin heads. Corvallis is way better as far as small college towns go. -
Eugene has problems but..............greenblood said:
And Seattle is better? It’s the 2nd biggest shit hole city on the west coast behind San Francisco. Seattle and Portland both have that sweet smell of shit and urine when you stroll downtown. The only difference is that Seattle is bigger and has a little more smog to hold that smell in.StrongArmCobra said:
For Oregon, it's about getting kids to commit based on the emotional high of a visit. Especially with the way Oregon's entire football staff suck these kids off during their visits. I can imagine it's quite intoxicating during their visits and makes them feel special. However, the reality is, once they sign with Oregon and get on campus, all that love and emotional high isn't there anymore. Oregon presents this mirage during their visits for kids and it's not at all the reality of day to day life in Eugene. So kids get on campus and are like "this shit isn't nearly as fun as I thought it would be. Eugene fucking sucks. I want to go home."creepycoug said:
That sounded racist man.greenblood said:
He’s making the decision after his Freshman year. Try reading an article before you fart.StrongArmCobra said:
So they gave up the most sacks? Got it.lawsandl said:
Mirabal developed at Marshall and they were always a leader in sacks given up. Pass pro has improved under him. Between Cristobal and Mirabal, they work well together.StrongArmCobra said:
Recruiting and signing guys are two different things. None of those guys are going to Oregon. Oregon is recruiting all the obvious elite kids just like everybody else. But you can see them lining up their "hidden gem" guys for when they inevitably whiff on all their top O-line targets.lawsandl said:
Hidden gems??? Oregon shows some interest and all of sudden they are chasing underrated recruits? Let me know when Oregon gives this kid an official visit. Until then Oregon is recruiting Rosengarten, Fryar, Hatcher and Harper. Last I check all 4 took official visits to other good schools.StrongArmCobra said:Ducks going hard after those "hidden gems" lol. They lose six lineman after this season and have to try to load up on "hidden gem" recruits to replace them. Must suck knowing UW can get this kid anytime they want. Not a lot of O-line talent in the state of Oregon this cycle. They have to come up here and try to take whatever scraps UW leaves behind.
Oregon ain't Bama. They can't recruit elite lineman from around the nation like Bama can and out West, most of the elite O-line recruits care about academics which puts Oregon at a disadvantage. It really doesn't matter that Cristobal is a blow hard O-line coach as a head coach. He will struggle consistently recruiting quality O-lineman at Oregon. That's why having an O-line coach and developer of talent like Greatwood was so important for Oregon's success during your golden era. Mario got demoted at Bama so he's not the O-line coach he's hyped up to be. He's an idiot meat head who sacrifices athleticism for size. On top of that, your actual O-line coach is a total nobody and looks like an elf.
Also, getting Sewell, Tauanu’u, and Aumavue-Laulu along with Jaramillo and Jones is an excellent haul. We’ll see where Rosengarten winds up.
Lastly, Oregon looks good for Harper and Rosengarten as well as Jeffers. I am sure Cristobal will put together a good haul.
Seriously though, Mirabal is a nobody. I don't think he's the kinda guy who can instill toughness in an O-line long term and I don't think he can recruit. Cristobal did all the heavy lifting for him last class and still could only get one legit Freshman for O-line in Jonah T. That's not enough.
O-line require depth. 2-3 good recruits in his first two classes isn't gonna cut it.
Oregon needs to replenish their O-line depth in the worst way and they won't be doing it with a lot of elite recruits. Better find and develop those hidden gems!
Also, if Mase Funa takes that 2-year mission he'll never play a down for Oregon. He'll go play somewhere else after his mission. Probably USC if they want him. Decommit U.
Also, rumors swirling Jonah T is next to transfer portal to SC. Probably after the season when SC has a scholarship available for him. The transfer portal is gonna fuck Oregon. So many soft commits conned into signing with Oregon and then having buyer's remorse soon after. Now they can just put themselves back on the market and be recruited all over again.
“Seattle is Dying”
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Funny how you set up the variable of “RIGHT NOW” but now want to talk about an unknowable future. You are completely illogical.
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Maybe in the future you should edify yourself before making statements that are completely false and then try to equivocate and move the goal posts like a middle schoolers to try and cover for your ignorance.
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What's happening in the present directly effects what happens in the future. If it looks like Oregon won't get a 4-star signee at a bunch of positions in this class right now, that's not gonna change in the future. The 2020 class is not deep out West. It's slim pickings. UW's class won't blow anybody anyway nationally but it will be better than Oregon's.DJDuck said:Funny how you set up the variable of “RIGHT NOW” but now want to talk about an unknowable future. You are completely illogical.
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Typical bleeding heart liberal Seattle local news. Everything is a blown out of proportion. Everything is a disaster. Seattle only continues to grow and yet they want to focus on the homeless junkies and say the city is dying because of the homeless people? Melodramatic bullshit. Most of those people are homeless because they're drug addicts and their addiction has consumed their lives. Not because there's no job opportunities. Eugene has all the drug addicts minus all the things that make Seattle great.DJDuck said:
Eugene has problems but..............greenblood said:
And Seattle is better? It’s the 2nd biggest shit hole city on the west coast behind San Francisco. Seattle and Portland both have that sweet smell of shit and urine when you stroll downtown. The only difference is that Seattle is bigger and has a little more smog to hold that smell in.StrongArmCobra said:
For Oregon, it's about getting kids to commit based on the emotional high of a visit. Especially with the way Oregon's entire football staff suck these kids off during their visits. I can imagine it's quite intoxicating during their visits and makes them feel special. However, the reality is, once they sign with Oregon and get on campus, all that love and emotional high isn't there anymore. Oregon presents this mirage during their visits for kids and it's not at all the reality of day to day life in Eugene. So kids get on campus and are like "this shit isn't nearly as fun as I thought it would be. Eugene fucking sucks. I want to go home."creepycoug said:
That sounded racist man.greenblood said:
He’s making the decision after his Freshman year. Try reading an article before you fart.StrongArmCobra said:
So they gave up the most sacks? Got it.lawsandl said:
Mirabal developed at Marshall and they were always a leader in sacks given up. Pass pro has improved under him. Between Cristobal and Mirabal, they work well together.StrongArmCobra said:
Recruiting and signing guys are two different things. None of those guys are going to Oregon. Oregon is recruiting all the obvious elite kids just like everybody else. But you can see them lining up their "hidden gem" guys for when they inevitably whiff on all their top O-line targets.lawsandl said:
Hidden gems??? Oregon shows some interest and all of sudden they are chasing underrated recruits? Let me know when Oregon gives this kid an official visit. Until then Oregon is recruiting Rosengarten, Fryar, Hatcher and Harper. Last I check all 4 took official visits to other good schools.StrongArmCobra said:Ducks going hard after those "hidden gems" lol. They lose six lineman after this season and have to try to load up on "hidden gem" recruits to replace them. Must suck knowing UW can get this kid anytime they want. Not a lot of O-line talent in the state of Oregon this cycle. They have to come up here and try to take whatever scraps UW leaves behind.
Oregon ain't Bama. They can't recruit elite lineman from around the nation like Bama can and out West, most of the elite O-line recruits care about academics which puts Oregon at a disadvantage. It really doesn't matter that Cristobal is a blow hard O-line coach as a head coach. He will struggle consistently recruiting quality O-lineman at Oregon. That's why having an O-line coach and developer of talent like Greatwood was so important for Oregon's success during your golden era. Mario got demoted at Bama so he's not the O-line coach he's hyped up to be. He's an idiot meat head who sacrifices athleticism for size. On top of that, your actual O-line coach is a total nobody and looks like an elf.
Also, getting Sewell, Tauanu’u, and Aumavue-Laulu along with Jaramillo and Jones is an excellent haul. We’ll see where Rosengarten winds up.
Lastly, Oregon looks good for Harper and Rosengarten as well as Jeffers. I am sure Cristobal will put together a good haul.
Seriously though, Mirabal is a nobody. I don't think he's the kinda guy who can instill toughness in an O-line long term and I don't think he can recruit. Cristobal did all the heavy lifting for him last class and still could only get one legit Freshman for O-line in Jonah T. That's not enough.
O-line require depth. 2-3 good recruits in his first two classes isn't gonna cut it.
Oregon needs to replenish their O-line depth in the worst way and they won't be doing it with a lot of elite recruits. Better find and develop those hidden gems!
Also, if Mase Funa takes that 2-year mission he'll never play a down for Oregon. He'll go play somewhere else after his mission. Probably USC if they want him. Decommit U.
Also, rumors swirling Jonah T is next to transfer portal to SC. Probably after the season when SC has a scholarship available for him. The transfer portal is gonna fuck Oregon. So many soft commits conned into signing with Oregon and then having buyer's remorse soon after. Now they can just put themselves back on the market and be recruited all over again.
“Seattle is Dying”https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bpAi70WWBlw
Some people don't realize how good we got it here compared to L.A., Miami, New York, Chicago, etc. Like I said, Seattle is one of the best big cities in the world. What the fuck does Eugene have to offer? Nothing.
The state of Washington was just ranked the best state in the country based on a multitude of categories.
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I'm sure he'll be a fine undersized defensive lineman.DJDuck said:
I think Sewell will be fine. The kid has talent and he is athletic.backthepack said:
Sewell 260+ and he gunna get bigger. If he’s a LBer he gunna have an awfully tough time trying to cover and play in space.lawsandl said:
Mase isn’t a linebacker. I also think Oregon gets Noah Sewell and has a bright future at LB.StrongArmCobra said:
Oh sure. I'm sure you really think Oregon losing their highest rated LB commit ever and one of their top-3 OL signees since Helfrich wouldn't be a big deal. Do you see Oregon lighting it up in recruiting right now? Do you really think they can just easily replace those guys with equal or better talent down the road if they don't pan out and end up elsewhere? They won't.lawsandl said:
All your assessments depend on fortune telling and predicated in the worst possible scenario. You don’t hedge against this or live in world of probability but in an all or nothing world. Who gives a shit if Mase comes in as a fat ass and then leaves? It’s actually a good scenario. If he’s a badass he stays if not he has to earn his his schollie again. Likewise, linebacker and DL depth are in good shape.StrongArmCobra said:
It doesn't matter. He's not playing as a true Freshman due to the knee injury and being an out of shape fat ass. He'll redshirt. If he goes on a mission, that'll give him two years to watch Oregon remain mediocre. After his mission he's free to go wherever he wants and play immediately. He'll either go to USC or he'll be so fat and out of shape that Oregon won't even want him to come back. Like I said, if he takes that mission, he ain't doing shit at Oregon ever.greenblood said:
He’s making the decision after his Freshman year. Try reading an article before you fart.StrongArmCobra said:
So they gave up the most sacks? Got it.lawsandl said:
Mirabal developed at Marshall and they were always a leader in sacks given up. Pass pro has improved under him. Between Cristobal and Mirabal, they work well together.StrongArmCobra said:
Recruiting and signing guys are two different things. None of those guys are going to Oregon. Oregon is recruiting all the obvious elite kids just like everybody else. But you can see them lining up their "hidden gem" guys for when they inevitably whiff on all their top O-line targets.lawsandl said:
Hidden gems??? Oregon shows some interest and all of sudden they are chasing underrated recruits? Let me know when Oregon gives this kid an official visit. Until then Oregon is recruiting Rosengarten, Fryar, Hatcher and Harper. Last I check all 4 took official visits to other good schools.StrongArmCobra said:Ducks going hard after those "hidden gems" lol. They lose six lineman after this season and have to try to load up on "hidden gem" recruits to replace them. Must suck knowing UW can get this kid anytime they want. Not a lot of O-line talent in the state of Oregon this cycle. They have to come up here and try to take whatever scraps UW leaves behind.
Oregon ain't Bama. They can't recruit elite lineman from around the nation like Bama can and out West, most of the elite O-line recruits care about academics which puts Oregon at a disadvantage. It really doesn't matter that Cristobal is a blow hard O-line coach as a head coach. He will struggle consistently recruiting quality O-lineman at Oregon. That's why having an O-line coach and developer of talent like Greatwood was so important for Oregon's success during your golden era. Mario got demoted at Bama so he's not the O-line coach he's hyped up to be. He's an idiot meat head who sacrifices athleticism for size. On top of that, your actual O-line coach is a total nobody and looks like an elf.
Also, getting Sewell, Tauanu’u, and Aumavue-Laulu along with Jaramillo and Jones is an excellent haul. We’ll see where Rosengarten winds up.
Lastly, Oregon looks good for Harper and Rosengarten as well as Jeffers. I am sure Cristobal will put together a good haul.
Seriously though, Mirabal is a nobody. I don't think he's the kinda guy who can instill toughness in an O-line long term and I don't think he can recruit. Cristobal did all the heavy lifting for him last class and still could only get one legit Freshman for O-line in Jonah T. That's not enough.
O-line require depth. 2-3 good recruits in his first two classes isn't gonna cut it.
Oregon needs to replenish their O-line depth in the worst way and they won't be doing it with a lot of elite recruits. Better find and develop those hidden gems!
Also, if Mase Funa takes that 2-year mission he'll never play a down for Oregon. He'll go play somewhere else after his mission. Probably USC if they want him. Decommit U.
Also, rumors swirling Jonah T is next to transfer portal to SC. Probably after the season when SC has a scholarship available for him. The transfer portal is gonna fuck Oregon. So many soft commits conned into signing with Oregon and then having buyer's remorse soon after. Now they can just put themselves back on the market and be recruited all over again.
As for OL, if Jonah is on campus for a year and wants to be at USC, so be it. The nice thing about the portal is it goes both ways. Cristobal will fill spots and get good players.
Mase ends up at DL. I am not sure what will go into his decision to take a mission but like many before him, future NFL potential will be a big factor. If he has that, I am sure that will be manifest itself.
As for Jonah, I obviously prefer he stick. That being said, I see boom or bust. I think the kid has some growing up to do. If he does that, he’s got all the talent in the world. I can’t imagine an elite talent wanting to wait a year to play.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fDhLtTWRGtc -
He will not be a defensive lineman.
He is the nations #2 ILB according to rivals. I don’t know to what extent but he WILL carry the ball for Oregon on occasion also. -
Oregon will get plenty of 4 stars.StrongArmCobra said:
What's happening in the present directly effects what happens in the future. If it looks like Oregon won't get a 4-star signee at a bunch of positions in this class right now, that's not gonna change in the future. The 2020 class is not deep out West. It's slim pickings. UW's class won't blow anybody anyway nationally but it will be better than Oregon's.DJDuck said:Funny how you set up the variable of “RIGHT NOW” but now want to talk about an unknowable future. You are completely illogical.
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Lol. Sure buddy. 270 pound high school recruits make great college inside linebackers. Oregon is really trying to copy Sark era UW in every possible way? Sewell is a future DT just like Qualls. UW is recruiting guys like Sama Paama and Faatui Tuitele and Jacob Bandes and Tuli Letuligasenoa and Taki Taimani. Oregon is recruiting the next Elijah Qualls. Good for you. Qualls was a good player for us. Sewell will be one of your better D-lineman.DJDuck said:He will not be a defensive lineman.
He is the nations #2 ILB according to rivals. I don’t know to what extent but he WILL carry the ball for Oregon on occasion also.
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Not enough to beat UW any time soon.lawsandl said:
Oregon will get plenty of 4 stars.StrongArmCobra said:
What's happening in the present directly effects what happens in the future. If it looks like Oregon won't get a 4-star signee at a bunch of positions in this class right now, that's not gonna change in the future. The 2020 class is not deep out West. It's slim pickings. UW's class won't blow anybody anyway nationally but it will be better than Oregon's.DJDuck said:Funny how you set up the variable of “RIGHT NOW” but now want to talk about an unknowable future. You are completely illogical.
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He ran a sub 4.8 40 time with a sub 4.3 shuttle at 266. I am sure he can play linebacker.StrongArmCobra said:
Lol. Sure buddy. 270 pound high school recruits make great college inside linebackers.DJDuck said:He will not be a defensive lineman.
He is the nations #2 ILB according to rivals. I don’t know to what extent but he WILL carry the ball for Oregon on occasion also.
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He's too big dumb ass. Nobody has ever played inside linebacker at 270 pounds and gaining and been a good player. You wanna make an argument that Noah Sewell is some completely unique player the likes of which the sport of football has never seen before? Good luck. Chunky boy will show up to college weighing 290.lawsandl said:
He ran a sub 4.8 40 time with a sub 4.3 shuttle at 266. I am sure he can play linebacker.StrongArmCobra said:
Lol. Sure buddy. 270 pound high school recruits make great college inside linebackers.DJDuck said:He will not be a defensive lineman.
He is the nations #2 ILB according to rivals. I don’t know to what extent but he WILL carry the ball for Oregon on occasion also. -
Lol, there is nothing chunky about him.StrongArmCobra said:
He's too big dumb ass. Nobody has ever played inside linebacker at 270 pounds and gaining and been a good player. You wanna make an argument that Noah Sewell is some completely unique player the likes of which the sport of football has never seen before? Good luck. Chunky boy will show up to college weighing 290.lawsandl said:
He ran a sub 4.8 40 time with a sub 4.3 shuttle at 266. I am sure he can play linebacker.StrongArmCobra said:
Lol. Sure buddy. 270 pound high school recruits make great college inside linebackers.DJDuck said:He will not be a defensive lineman.
He is the nations #2 ILB according to rivals. I don’t know to what extent but he WILL carry the ball for Oregon on occasion also.
