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Veterans walk out of meeting with AOC.
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*knewPitchfork51 said:
Are you new here?Swaye said:
Nobody can possibly be this stupid.HardlyClothed said:
Returning Vietnam vets getting spit on by lefties is an urban legend meant to shift the blame from the older veterans and vet organizations that let them down.Bendintheriver said:
Can you democrats get any more disrespectful? You punk assed bitch you wouldn't dare say that to the face of the veterans I know. They would kick you internet tough guy ass for saying disrespectful things like that about our veterans. My guess is it was your parents spitting on returning soldiers.HardlyClothed said:A Vietnam vet who probably still thinks the rice farmers he killed deserved it and a NYPD cop. Think I’ll take AOC on this one.
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WowSwaye said:
*knewPitchfork51 said:
Are you new here?Swaye said:
Nobody can possibly be this stupid.HardlyClothed said:
Returning Vietnam vets getting spit on by lefties is an urban legend meant to shift the blame from the older veterans and vet organizations that let them down.Bendintheriver said:
Can you democrats get any more disrespectful? You punk assed bitch you wouldn't dare say that to the face of the veterans I know. They would kick you internet tough guy ass for saying disrespectful things like that about our veterans. My guess is it was your parents spitting on returning soldiers.HardlyClothed said:A Vietnam vet who probably still thinks the rice farmers he killed deserved it and a NYPD cop. Think I’ll take AOC on this one.
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No. Clearly they can.Swaye said:
Nobody can possibly be this stupid.HardlyClothed said:
Returning Vietnam vets getting spit on by lefties is an urban legend meant to shift the blame from the older veterans and vet organizations that let them down.Bendintheriver said:
Can you democrats get any more disrespectful? You punk assed bitch you wouldn't dare say that to the face of the veterans I know. They would kick you internet tough guy ass for saying disrespectful things like that about our veterans. My guess is it was your parents spitting on returning soldiers.HardlyClothed said:A Vietnam vet who probably still thinks the rice farmers he killed deserved it and a NYPD cop. Think I’ll take AOC on this one.
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Bob again doesn't post a link.SFGbob said:In his purported study, Lembcke's sampling was not random, it was statistically insignificant, and he stated that stories of spitting first surfaced in the 1980s. And he espouses that post-traumatic stress disorder was an invention of the government to garner support for the war.
But Lembcke is refuted by many other sources, including Jim Lindgren, a Northwestern University law professor who cited news accounts that documented many spitting incidents. One example: A 1967 Bucks County Courier Times article reporting that two sailors were spat on outside a high school football game by a gang of about 10 young men. One of the sailors was stabbed.
Others:
• In October 1967, Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter James Reston's front page article in the New York Times described his eyewitness account of protest behavior so vulgar that spitting was the least of the transgressions.
• Even Medal of Honor recipients were abused and "spat upon as 'monsters'," according to the head of the Congressional Medal of Honor Society, WWII medalist Thomas J. Kelly. Kelly recounted how about 200 anti-war protesters showed up one year to harass the Medal of Honor recipients at their annual dinner. WWII Medalist James Conners was unable to avoid a particularly obnoxious man yelling, "Killer, killer, killer." Conners decked him.
• Other spitting incidents were reported by Pulitzer Prize winners Max Frankel in the New York Times (November 1969) and Carl Bernstein in the Washington Post (May 1970).
Hardly shocking that an anti_American piece of shit like Hardly Clothed swallows anti-American propaganda from an avowed socialist like Jerry Lembcke.
That being said. You'd think if many soldiers were spat on, there'd be a lot more evidence than what's posted there. -
Typical Mercer Island elitist white boy.allpurpleallgold said:Typical snowflake boomer.
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I served just post Vietnam. The disrespect and stigma was very real even towards me.HardlyClothed said:
Indoctrination is believing the spitting hippie urban legend without any contemporaneous supporting evidence. All you have is vets claiming mistreatment decades later and exposing the fabrications in the process. But it’s a convenient way to blame the left for “undermining” the war effort in Vietnam that was doomed from the start. Clearly you’re dumb enough to fall for it.salemcoog said:
This doesn’t read as you may think it does Mercer Island. All this says is that A: If a vet returned home and was a friend or family member of a dirty hippy, they didn’t spit on him/her. B: It says that spitting hippies favor vets that returned home over Congress.allpurpleallgold said:HardlyClothed said:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/13/opinion/myth-spitting-vietnam-protester.htmlSwaye said:
Nobody can possibly be this stupid.HardlyClothed said:
Returning Vietnam vets getting spit on by lefties is an urban legend meant to shift the blame from the older veterans and vet organizations that let them down.Bendintheriver said:
Can you democrats get any more disrespectful? You punk assed bitch you wouldn't dare say that to the face of the veterans I know. They would kick you internet tough guy ass for saying disrespectful things like that about our veterans. My guess is it was your parents spitting on returning soldiers.HardlyClothed said:A Vietnam vet who probably still thinks the rice farmers he killed deserved it and a NYPD cop. Think I’ll take AOC on this one.
I told her that, on the contrary, opponents of the war had actually tried to recruit returning veterans. I told her about a 1971 Harris Poll survey that found that 99 percent of veterans said their reception from friends and family had been friendly, and 94 percent said their reception from age-group peers, the population most likely to have included the spitters, was friendly.
A follow-up poll, conducted in 1979 for the Veterans Administration (now the Department of Veterans Affairs), reported that former antiwar activists had warmer feelings toward Vietnam veterans than toward congressional leaders or even their erstwhile fellow travelers in the movement.
So fake news go all the way back to the 70s.
This article does nothing to support your indoctrinated bullshit that protesters didn’t spit on returning vets and call them baby killers. -
I wouldn't waste your time. He is either a troll or so stupid it would make Forrest Gump sad. Either way, there is no helping he/she/ze/ve/they.Gilbystaint said:
I served just post Vietnam. The disrespect and stigma was very real even towards me.HardlyClothed said:
Indoctrination is believing the spitting hippie urban legend without any contemporaneous supporting evidence. All you have is vets claiming mistreatment decades later and exposing the fabrications in the process. But it’s a convenient way to blame the left for “undermining” the war effort in Vietnam that was doomed from the start. Clearly you’re dumb enough to fall for it.salemcoog said:
This doesn’t read as you may think it does Mercer Island. All this says is that A: If a vet returned home and was a friend or family member of a dirty hippy, they didn’t spit on him/her. B: It says that spitting hippies favor vets that returned home over Congress.allpurpleallgold said:HardlyClothed said:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/13/opinion/myth-spitting-vietnam-protester.htmlSwaye said:
Nobody can possibly be this stupid.HardlyClothed said:
Returning Vietnam vets getting spit on by lefties is an urban legend meant to shift the blame from the older veterans and vet organizations that let them down.Bendintheriver said:
Can you democrats get any more disrespectful? You punk assed bitch you wouldn't dare say that to the face of the veterans I know. They would kick you internet tough guy ass for saying disrespectful things like that about our veterans. My guess is it was your parents spitting on returning soldiers.HardlyClothed said:A Vietnam vet who probably still thinks the rice farmers he killed deserved it and a NYPD cop. Think I’ll take AOC on this one.
I told her that, on the contrary, opponents of the war had actually tried to recruit returning veterans. I told her about a 1971 Harris Poll survey that found that 99 percent of veterans said their reception from friends and family had been friendly, and 94 percent said their reception from age-group peers, the population most likely to have included the spitters, was friendly.
A follow-up poll, conducted in 1979 for the Veterans Administration (now the Department of Veterans Affairs), reported that former antiwar activists had warmer feelings toward Vietnam veterans than toward congressional leaders or even their erstwhile fellow travelers in the movement.
So fake news go all the way back to the 70s.
This article does nothing to support your indoctrinated bullshit that protesters didn’t spit on returning vets and call them baby killers. -
No one doubts that there wasn't distaste towards the war and for some people, there was distaste for those who served in the war. It was wrong, but it's a part of our history like the civil war is. The issue is about painting liberals as people who hated soldiers and spit on them every chance they could get.Gilbystaint said:
I served just post Vietnam. The disrespect and stigma was very real even towards me.HardlyClothed said:
Indoctrination is believing the spitting hippie urban legend without any contemporaneous supporting evidence. All you have is vets claiming mistreatment decades later and exposing the fabrications in the process. But it’s a convenient way to blame the left for “undermining” the war effort in Vietnam that was doomed from the start. Clearly you’re dumb enough to fall for it.salemcoog said:
This doesn’t read as you may think it does Mercer Island. All this says is that A: If a vet returned home and was a friend or family member of a dirty hippy, they didn’t spit on him/her. B: It says that spitting hippies favor vets that returned home over Congress.allpurpleallgold said:HardlyClothed said:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/13/opinion/myth-spitting-vietnam-protester.htmlSwaye said:
Nobody can possibly be this stupid.HardlyClothed said:
Returning Vietnam vets getting spit on by lefties is an urban legend meant to shift the blame from the older veterans and vet organizations that let them down.Bendintheriver said:
Can you democrats get any more disrespectful? You punk assed bitch you wouldn't dare say that to the face of the veterans I know. They would kick you internet tough guy ass for saying disrespectful things like that about our veterans. My guess is it was your parents spitting on returning soldiers.HardlyClothed said:A Vietnam vet who probably still thinks the rice farmers he killed deserved it and a NYPD cop. Think I’ll take AOC on this one.
I told her that, on the contrary, opponents of the war had actually tried to recruit returning veterans. I told her about a 1971 Harris Poll survey that found that 99 percent of veterans said their reception from friends and family had been friendly, and 94 percent said their reception from age-group peers, the population most likely to have included the spitters, was friendly.
A follow-up poll, conducted in 1979 for the Veterans Administration (now the Department of Veterans Affairs), reported that former antiwar activists had warmer feelings toward Vietnam veterans than toward congressional leaders or even their erstwhile fellow travelers in the movement.
So fake news go all the way back to the 70s.
This article does nothing to support your indoctrinated bullshit that protesters didn’t spit on returning vets and call them baby killers. -
NO. The issue is painting liberals as people who are currently hating on soldiers every chance they get.2001400ex said:
No one doubts that there wasn't distaste towards the war and for some people, there was distaste for those who served in the war. It was wrong, but it's a part of our history like the civil war is. The issue is about painting liberals as people who hated soldiers and spit on them every chance they could get.Gilbystaint said:
I served just post Vietnam. The disrespect and stigma was very real even towards me.HardlyClothed said:
Indoctrination is believing the spitting hippie urban legend without any contemporaneous supporting evidence. All you have is vets claiming mistreatment decades later and exposing the fabrications in the process. But it’s a convenient way to blame the left for “undermining” the war effort in Vietnam that was doomed from the start. Clearly you’re dumb enough to fall for it.salemcoog said:
This doesn’t read as you may think it does Mercer Island. All this says is that A: If a vet returned home and was a friend or family member of a dirty hippy, they didn’t spit on him/her. B: It says that spitting hippies favor vets that returned home over Congress.allpurpleallgold said:HardlyClothed said:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/13/opinion/myth-spitting-vietnam-protester.htmlSwaye said:
Nobody can possibly be this stupid.HardlyClothed said:
Returning Vietnam vets getting spit on by lefties is an urban legend meant to shift the blame from the older veterans and vet organizations that let them down.Bendintheriver said:
Can you democrats get any more disrespectful? You punk assed bitch you wouldn't dare say that to the face of the veterans I know. They would kick you internet tough guy ass for saying disrespectful things like that about our veterans. My guess is it was your parents spitting on returning soldiers.HardlyClothed said:A Vietnam vet who probably still thinks the rice farmers he killed deserved it and a NYPD cop. Think I’ll take AOC on this one.
I told her that, on the contrary, opponents of the war had actually tried to recruit returning veterans. I told her about a 1971 Harris Poll survey that found that 99 percent of veterans said their reception from friends and family had been friendly, and 94 percent said their reception from age-group peers, the population most likely to have included the spitters, was friendly.
A follow-up poll, conducted in 1979 for the Veterans Administration (now the Department of Veterans Affairs), reported that former antiwar activists had warmer feelings toward Vietnam veterans than toward congressional leaders or even their erstwhile fellow travelers in the movement.
So fake news go all the way back to the 70s.
This article does nothing to support your indoctrinated bullshit that protesters didn’t spit on returning vets and call them baby killers.
Which is wrong because @RaceBannon is an avowed liberal who doesn't spit on soldiers or hate America. That is neo-progressive territory.
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The issue is about painting liberals as people who hated soldiers and spit on them every chance they could get.2001400ex said:
No one doubts that there wasn't distaste towards the war and for some people, there was distaste for those who served in the war. It was wrong, but it's a part of our history like the civil war is. The issue is about painting liberals as people who hated soldiers and spit on them every chance they could get.Gilbystaint said:
I served just post Vietnam. The disrespect and stigma was very real even towards me.HardlyClothed said:
Indoctrination is believing the spitting hippie urban legend without any contemporaneous supporting evidence. All you have is vets claiming mistreatment decades later and exposing the fabrications in the process. But it’s a convenient way to blame the left for “undermining” the war effort in Vietnam that was doomed from the start. Clearly you’re dumb enough to fall for it.salemcoog said:
This doesn’t read as you may think it does Mercer Island. All this says is that A: If a vet returned home and was a friend or family member of a dirty hippy, they didn’t spit on him/her. B: It says that spitting hippies favor vets that returned home over Congress.allpurpleallgold said:HardlyClothed said:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/13/opinion/myth-spitting-vietnam-protester.htmlSwaye said:
Nobody can possibly be this stupid.HardlyClothed said:
Returning Vietnam vets getting spit on by lefties is an urban legend meant to shift the blame from the older veterans and vet organizations that let them down.Bendintheriver said:
Can you democrats get any more disrespectful? You punk assed bitch you wouldn't dare say that to the face of the veterans I know. They would kick you internet tough guy ass for saying disrespectful things like that about our veterans. My guess is it was your parents spitting on returning soldiers.HardlyClothed said:A Vietnam vet who probably still thinks the rice farmers he killed deserved it and a NYPD cop. Think I’ll take AOC on this one.
I told her that, on the contrary, opponents of the war had actually tried to recruit returning veterans. I told her about a 1971 Harris Poll survey that found that 99 percent of veterans said their reception from friends and family had been friendly, and 94 percent said their reception from age-group peers, the population most likely to have included the spitters, was friendly.
A follow-up poll, conducted in 1979 for the Veterans Administration (now the Department of Veterans Affairs), reported that former antiwar activists had warmer feelings toward Vietnam veterans than toward congressional leaders or even their erstwhile fellow travelers in the movement.
So fake news go all the way back to the 70s.
This article does nothing to support your indoctrinated bullshit that protesters didn’t spit on returning vets and call them baby killers.
Strawman ass fucking, dick sucking and lying. It's what Hondo does. -
It.Swaye said:
I wouldn't waste your time. He is either a troll or so stupid it would make Forrest Gump sad. Either way, there is no helping he/she/ze/ve/they.Gilbystaint said:
I served just post Vietnam. The disrespect and stigma was very real even towards me.HardlyClothed said:
Indoctrination is believing the spitting hippie urban legend without any contemporaneous supporting evidence. All you have is vets claiming mistreatment decades later and exposing the fabrications in the process. But it’s a convenient way to blame the left for “undermining” the war effort in Vietnam that was doomed from the start. Clearly you’re dumb enough to fall for it.salemcoog said:
This doesn’t read as you may think it does Mercer Island. All this says is that A: If a vet returned home and was a friend or family member of a dirty hippy, they didn’t spit on him/her. B: It says that spitting hippies favor vets that returned home over Congress.allpurpleallgold said:HardlyClothed said:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/13/opinion/myth-spitting-vietnam-protester.htmlSwaye said:
Nobody can possibly be this stupid.HardlyClothed said:
Returning Vietnam vets getting spit on by lefties is an urban legend meant to shift the blame from the older veterans and vet organizations that let them down.Bendintheriver said:
Can you democrats get any more disrespectful? You punk assed bitch you wouldn't dare say that to the face of the veterans I know. They would kick you internet tough guy ass for saying disrespectful things like that about our veterans. My guess is it was your parents spitting on returning soldiers.HardlyClothed said:A Vietnam vet who probably still thinks the rice farmers he killed deserved it and a NYPD cop. Think I’ll take AOC on this one.
I told her that, on the contrary, opponents of the war had actually tried to recruit returning veterans. I told her about a 1971 Harris Poll survey that found that 99 percent of veterans said their reception from friends and family had been friendly, and 94 percent said their reception from age-group peers, the population most likely to have included the spitters, was friendly.
A follow-up poll, conducted in 1979 for the Veterans Administration (now the Department of Veterans Affairs), reported that former antiwar activists had warmer feelings toward Vietnam veterans than toward congressional leaders or even their erstwhile fellow travelers in the movement.
So fake news go all the way back to the 70s.
This article does nothing to support your indoctrinated bullshit that protesters didn’t spit on returning vets and call them baby killers. -
As per usual you have no idea what this thread is about. Try a new strategy of sitting some threads out. You may even garner some respect around here.2001400ex said:
No one doubts that there wasn't distaste towards the war and for some people, there was distaste for those who served in the war. It was wrong, but it's a part of our history like the civil war is. The issue is about painting liberals as people who hated soldiers and spit on them every chance they could get.Gilbystaint said:
I served just post Vietnam. The disrespect and stigma was very real even towards me.HardlyClothed said:
Indoctrination is believing the spitting hippie urban legend without any contemporaneous supporting evidence. All you have is vets claiming mistreatment decades later and exposing the fabrications in the process. But it’s a convenient way to blame the left for “undermining” the war effort in Vietnam that was doomed from the start. Clearly you’re dumb enough to fall for it.salemcoog said:
This doesn’t read as you may think it does Mercer Island. All this says is that A: If a vet returned home and was a friend or family member of a dirty hippy, they didn’t spit on him/her. B: It says that spitting hippies favor vets that returned home over Congress.allpurpleallgold said:HardlyClothed said:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/13/opinion/myth-spitting-vietnam-protester.htmlSwaye said:
Nobody can possibly be this stupid.HardlyClothed said:
Returning Vietnam vets getting spit on by lefties is an urban legend meant to shift the blame from the older veterans and vet organizations that let them down.Bendintheriver said:
Can you democrats get any more disrespectful? You punk assed bitch you wouldn't dare say that to the face of the veterans I know. They would kick you internet tough guy ass for saying disrespectful things like that about our veterans. My guess is it was your parents spitting on returning soldiers.HardlyClothed said:A Vietnam vet who probably still thinks the rice farmers he killed deserved it and a NYPD cop. Think I’ll take AOC on this one.
I told her that, on the contrary, opponents of the war had actually tried to recruit returning veterans. I told her about a 1971 Harris Poll survey that found that 99 percent of veterans said their reception from friends and family had been friendly, and 94 percent said their reception from age-group peers, the population most likely to have included the spitters, was friendly.
A follow-up poll, conducted in 1979 for the Veterans Administration (now the Department of Veterans Affairs), reported that former antiwar activists had warmer feelings toward Vietnam veterans than toward congressional leaders or even their erstwhile fellow travelers in the movement.
So fake news go all the way back to the 70s.
This article does nothing to support your indoctrinated bullshit that protesters didn’t spit on returning vets and call them baby killers. -
The disrespect and stigma came largely from WWII vets who looked down on Vietnam vets for their failures in the war. Not the anti-war left. And there were plenty of right-wing efforts to divide returning vets from the anti-war left by blaming them for “losing the war at home”. The tale of the hippie spitting on returning vets in airports rendering it necessary to change in to civilian clothing is an urban myth that began in the ‘80s.Gilbystaint said:
I served just post Vietnam. The disrespect and stigma was very real even towards me.HardlyClothed said:
Indoctrination is believing the spitting hippie urban legend without any contemporaneous supporting evidence. All you have is vets claiming mistreatment decades later and exposing the fabrications in the process. But it’s a convenient way to blame the left for “undermining” the war effort in Vietnam that was doomed from the start. Clearly you’re dumb enough to fall for it.salemcoog said:
This doesn’t read as you may think it does Mercer Island. All this says is that A: If a vet returned home and was a friend or family member of a dirty hippy, they didn’t spit on him/her. B: It says that spitting hippies favor vets that returned home over Congress.allpurpleallgold said:HardlyClothed said:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/13/opinion/myth-spitting-vietnam-protester.htmlSwaye said:
Nobody can possibly be this stupid.HardlyClothed said:
Returning Vietnam vets getting spit on by lefties is an urban legend meant to shift the blame from the older veterans and vet organizations that let them down.Bendintheriver said:
Can you democrats get any more disrespectful? You punk assed bitch you wouldn't dare say that to the face of the veterans I know. They would kick you internet tough guy ass for saying disrespectful things like that about our veterans. My guess is it was your parents spitting on returning soldiers.HardlyClothed said:A Vietnam vet who probably still thinks the rice farmers he killed deserved it and a NYPD cop. Think I’ll take AOC on this one.
I told her that, on the contrary, opponents of the war had actually tried to recruit returning veterans. I told her about a 1971 Harris Poll survey that found that 99 percent of veterans said their reception from friends and family had been friendly, and 94 percent said their reception from age-group peers, the population most likely to have included the spitters, was friendly.
A follow-up poll, conducted in 1979 for the Veterans Administration (now the Department of Veterans Affairs), reported that former antiwar activists had warmer feelings toward Vietnam veterans than toward congressional leaders or even their erstwhile fellow travelers in the movement.
So fake news go all the way back to the 70s.
This article does nothing to support your indoctrinated bullshit that protesters didn’t spit on returning vets and call them baby killers. -
The tale of the hippie spitting on returning vets in airports rendering it necessary to change in to civilian clothing is an urban myth that began in the ‘80s.HardlyClothed said:
The disrespect and stigma came largely from WWII vets who looked down on Vietnam vets for their failures in the war. Not the anti-war left. And there were plenty of right-wing efforts to divide returning vets from the anti-war left by blaming them for “losing the war at home”. The tale of the hippie spitting on returning vets in airports rendering it necessary to change in to civilian clothing is an urban myth that began in the ‘80s.Gilbystaint said:
I served just post Vietnam. The disrespect and stigma was very real even towards me.HardlyClothed said:
Indoctrination is believing the spitting hippie urban legend without any contemporaneous supporting evidence. All you have is vets claiming mistreatment decades later and exposing the fabrications in the process. But it’s a convenient way to blame the left for “undermining” the war effort in Vietnam that was doomed from the start. Clearly you’re dumb enough to fall for it.salemcoog said:
This doesn’t read as you may think it does Mercer Island. All this says is that A: If a vet returned home and was a friend or family member of a dirty hippy, they didn’t spit on him/her. B: It says that spitting hippies favor vets that returned home over Congress.allpurpleallgold said:HardlyClothed said:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/13/opinion/myth-spitting-vietnam-protester.htmlSwaye said:
Nobody can possibly be this stupid.HardlyClothed said:
Returning Vietnam vets getting spit on by lefties is an urban legend meant to shift the blame from the older veterans and vet organizations that let them down.Bendintheriver said:
Can you democrats get any more disrespectful? You punk assed bitch you wouldn't dare say that to the face of the veterans I know. They would kick you internet tough guy ass for saying disrespectful things like that about our veterans. My guess is it was your parents spitting on returning soldiers.HardlyClothed said:A Vietnam vet who probably still thinks the rice farmers he killed deserved it and a NYPD cop. Think I’ll take AOC on this one.
I told her that, on the contrary, opponents of the war had actually tried to recruit returning veterans. I told her about a 1971 Harris Poll survey that found that 99 percent of veterans said their reception from friends and family had been friendly, and 94 percent said their reception from age-group peers, the population most likely to have included the spitters, was friendly.
A follow-up poll, conducted in 1979 for the Veterans Administration (now the Department of Veterans Affairs), reported that former antiwar activists had warmer feelings toward Vietnam veterans than toward congressional leaders or even their erstwhile fellow travelers in the movement.
So fake news go all the way back to the 70s.
This article does nothing to support your indoctrinated bullshit that protesters didn’t spit on returning vets and call them baby killers.
That's a good Kunt, just maintain the lie. So despite the fact that there are news articles from the 1970s detailing spitting incidents, according to HC the dumbfuck it's all a myth that started in the 80s. -
Share those news articles. It shouldn’t be too hard to find the archives right? You’re the biggest “prove it with a link” guy around here.SFGbob said:
The tale of the hippie spitting on returning vets in airports rendering it necessary to change in to civilian clothing is an urban myth that began in the ‘80s.HardlyClothed said:
The disrespect and stigma came largely from WWII vets who looked down on Vietnam vets for their failures in the war. Not the anti-war left. And there were plenty of right-wing efforts to divide returning vets from the anti-war left by blaming them for “losing the war at home”. The tale of the hippie spitting on returning vets in airports rendering it necessary to change in to civilian clothing is an urban myth that began in the ‘80s.Gilbystaint said:
I served just post Vietnam. The disrespect and stigma was very real even towards me.HardlyClothed said:
Indoctrination is believing the spitting hippie urban legend without any contemporaneous supporting evidence. All you have is vets claiming mistreatment decades later and exposing the fabrications in the process. But it’s a convenient way to blame the left for “undermining” the war effort in Vietnam that was doomed from the start. Clearly you’re dumb enough to fall for it.salemcoog said:
This doesn’t read as you may think it does Mercer Island. All this says is that A: If a vet returned home and was a friend or family member of a dirty hippy, they didn’t spit on him/her. B: It says that spitting hippies favor vets that returned home over Congress.allpurpleallgold said:HardlyClothed said:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/13/opinion/myth-spitting-vietnam-protester.htmlSwaye said:
Nobody can possibly be this stupid.HardlyClothed said:
Returning Vietnam vets getting spit on by lefties is an urban legend meant to shift the blame from the older veterans and vet organizations that let them down.Bendintheriver said:
Can you democrats get any more disrespectful? You punk assed bitch you wouldn't dare say that to the face of the veterans I know. They would kick you internet tough guy ass for saying disrespectful things like that about our veterans. My guess is it was your parents spitting on returning soldiers.HardlyClothed said:A Vietnam vet who probably still thinks the rice farmers he killed deserved it and a NYPD cop. Think I’ll take AOC on this one.
I told her that, on the contrary, opponents of the war had actually tried to recruit returning veterans. I told her about a 1971 Harris Poll survey that found that 99 percent of veterans said their reception from friends and family had been friendly, and 94 percent said their reception from age-group peers, the population most likely to have included the spitters, was friendly.
A follow-up poll, conducted in 1979 for the Veterans Administration (now the Department of Veterans Affairs), reported that former antiwar activists had warmer feelings toward Vietnam veterans than toward congressional leaders or even their erstwhile fellow travelers in the movement.
So fake news go all the way back to the 70s.
This article does nothing to support your indoctrinated bullshit that protesters didn’t spit on returning vets and call them baby killers.
That's a good Kunt, just maintain the lie. So despite the fact that there are news articles from the 1970s detailing spitting incidents, according to HC the dumbfuck it's all a myth that started in the 80s. -
Not sure where you read this narrative, I have taken care of Vets for quite sometime and have never witnessed one Vet disrespecting another based on what war they served in.HardlyClothed said:
The disrespect and stigma came largely from WWII vets who looked down on Vietnam vets for their failures in the war. Not the anti-war left. And there were plenty of right-wing efforts to divide returning vets from the anti-war left by blaming them for “losing the war at home”. The tale of the hippie spitting on returning vets in airports rendering it necessary to change in to civilian clothing is an urban myth that began in the ‘80s.Gilbystaint said:
I served just post Vietnam. The disrespect and stigma was very real even towards me.HardlyClothed said:
Indoctrination is believing the spitting hippie urban legend without any contemporaneous supporting evidence. All you have is vets claiming mistreatment decades later and exposing the fabrications in the process. But it’s a convenient way to blame the left for “undermining” the war effort in Vietnam that was doomed from the start. Clearly you’re dumb enough to fall for it.salemcoog said:
This doesn’t read as you may think it does Mercer Island. All this says is that A: If a vet returned home and was a friend or family member of a dirty hippy, they didn’t spit on him/her. B: It says that spitting hippies favor vets that returned home over Congress.allpurpleallgold said:HardlyClothed said:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/13/opinion/myth-spitting-vietnam-protester.htmlSwaye said:
Nobody can possibly be this stupid.HardlyClothed said:
Returning Vietnam vets getting spit on by lefties is an urban legend meant to shift the blame from the older veterans and vet organizations that let them down.Bendintheriver said:
Can you democrats get any more disrespectful? You punk assed bitch you wouldn't dare say that to the face of the veterans I know. They would kick you internet tough guy ass for saying disrespectful things like that about our veterans. My guess is it was your parents spitting on returning soldiers.HardlyClothed said:A Vietnam vet who probably still thinks the rice farmers he killed deserved it and a NYPD cop. Think I’ll take AOC on this one.
I told her that, on the contrary, opponents of the war had actually tried to recruit returning veterans. I told her about a 1971 Harris Poll survey that found that 99 percent of veterans said their reception from friends and family had been friendly, and 94 percent said their reception from age-group peers, the population most likely to have included the spitters, was friendly.
A follow-up poll, conducted in 1979 for the Veterans Administration (now the Department of Veterans Affairs), reported that former antiwar activists had warmer feelings toward Vietnam veterans than toward congressional leaders or even their erstwhile fellow travelers in the movement.
So fake news go all the way back to the 70s.
This article does nothing to support your indoctrinated bullshit that protesters didn’t spit on returning vets and call them baby killers. -
I’m talking about in the moment, between ‘67 and the late ‘70’s. Those attitudes toward vietnam vets changed as the broader population began to sympathize more with their horrifying experiences and widespread PTSD. But it wasn’t the case at the time, except ironically with the anti-war left who welcomed disillusioned vets into their movement.Gilbystaint said:
Not sure where you read this narrative, I have taken care of Vets for quite sometime and have never witnessed one Vet disrespecting another based on what war they served in.HardlyClothed said:
The disrespect and stigma came largely from WWII vets who looked down on Vietnam vets for their failures in the war. Not the anti-war left. And there were plenty of right-wing efforts to divide returning vets from the anti-war left by blaming them for “losing the war at home”. The tale of the hippie spitting on returning vets in airports rendering it necessary to change in to civilian clothing is an urban myth that began in the ‘80s.Gilbystaint said:
I served just post Vietnam. The disrespect and stigma was very real even towards me.HardlyClothed said:
Indoctrination is believing the spitting hippie urban legend without any contemporaneous supporting evidence. All you have is vets claiming mistreatment decades later and exposing the fabrications in the process. But it’s a convenient way to blame the left for “undermining” the war effort in Vietnam that was doomed from the start. Clearly you’re dumb enough to fall for it.salemcoog said:
This doesn’t read as you may think it does Mercer Island. All this says is that A: If a vet returned home and was a friend or family member of a dirty hippy, they didn’t spit on him/her. B: It says that spitting hippies favor vets that returned home over Congress.allpurpleallgold said:HardlyClothed said:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/13/opinion/myth-spitting-vietnam-protester.htmlSwaye said:
Nobody can possibly be this stupid.HardlyClothed said:
Returning Vietnam vets getting spit on by lefties is an urban legend meant to shift the blame from the older veterans and vet organizations that let them down.Bendintheriver said:
Can you democrats get any more disrespectful? You punk assed bitch you wouldn't dare say that to the face of the veterans I know. They would kick you internet tough guy ass for saying disrespectful things like that about our veterans. My guess is it was your parents spitting on returning soldiers.HardlyClothed said:A Vietnam vet who probably still thinks the rice farmers he killed deserved it and a NYPD cop. Think I’ll take AOC on this one.
I told her that, on the contrary, opponents of the war had actually tried to recruit returning veterans. I told her about a 1971 Harris Poll survey that found that 99 percent of veterans said their reception from friends and family had been friendly, and 94 percent said their reception from age-group peers, the population most likely to have included the spitters, was friendly.
A follow-up poll, conducted in 1979 for the Veterans Administration (now the Department of Veterans Affairs), reported that former antiwar activists had warmer feelings toward Vietnam veterans than toward congressional leaders or even their erstwhile fellow travelers in the movement.
So fake news go all the way back to the 70s.
This article does nothing to support your indoctrinated bullshit that protesters didn’t spit on returning vets and call them baby killers. -
It's bullshit. All the Korea and WWII guys hated the draft dodgers and Jane Fonda, not the vets. Except the faggots like John Kerry.Gilbystaint said:
Not sure where you read this narrative, I have taken care of Vets for quite sometime and have never witnessed one Vet disrespecting another based on what war they served in.HardlyClothed said:
The disrespect and stigma came largely from WWII vets who looked down on Vietnam vets for their failures in the war. Not the anti-war left. And there were plenty of right-wing efforts to divide returning vets from the anti-war left by blaming them for “losing the war at home”. The tale of the hippie spitting on returning vets in airports rendering it necessary to change in to civilian clothing is an urban myth that began in the ‘80s.Gilbystaint said:
I served just post Vietnam. The disrespect and stigma was very real even towards me.HardlyClothed said:
Indoctrination is believing the spitting hippie urban legend without any contemporaneous supporting evidence. All you have is vets claiming mistreatment decades later and exposing the fabrications in the process. But it’s a convenient way to blame the left for “undermining” the war effort in Vietnam that was doomed from the start. Clearly you’re dumb enough to fall for it.salemcoog said:
This doesn’t read as you may think it does Mercer Island. All this says is that A: If a vet returned home and was a friend or family member of a dirty hippy, they didn’t spit on him/her. B: It says that spitting hippies favor vets that returned home over Congress.allpurpleallgold said:HardlyClothed said:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/13/opinion/myth-spitting-vietnam-protester.htmlSwaye said:
Nobody can possibly be this stupid.HardlyClothed said:
Returning Vietnam vets getting spit on by lefties is an urban legend meant to shift the blame from the older veterans and vet organizations that let them down.Bendintheriver said:
Can you democrats get any more disrespectful? You punk assed bitch you wouldn't dare say that to the face of the veterans I know. They would kick you internet tough guy ass for saying disrespectful things like that about our veterans. My guess is it was your parents spitting on returning soldiers.HardlyClothed said:A Vietnam vet who probably still thinks the rice farmers he killed deserved it and a NYPD cop. Think I’ll take AOC on this one.
I told her that, on the contrary, opponents of the war had actually tried to recruit returning veterans. I told her about a 1971 Harris Poll survey that found that 99 percent of veterans said their reception from friends and family had been friendly, and 94 percent said their reception from age-group peers, the population most likely to have included the spitters, was friendly.
A follow-up poll, conducted in 1979 for the Veterans Administration (now the Department of Veterans Affairs), reported that former antiwar activists had warmer feelings toward Vietnam veterans than toward congressional leaders or even their erstwhile fellow travelers in the movement.
So fake news go all the way back to the 70s.
This article does nothing to support your indoctrinated bullshit that protesters didn’t spit on returning vets and call them baby killers. -
Two incidents reported on in the early 1970s.
In the Dec. 27, 1971, CBS News segment, Pickett tells reporter Dean, “Man, I got into the airport and these two dudes walked up—one of them spit at me.”
In a June 2, 1971, Washington Post article, Minarik says that hours after his Dec. 10, 1968, discharge from the Army, two people spat on him as he walked an Oakland, Calif., street.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2007/03/vietnam-vet-delmar-pickett-jr-stands-by-his-spit-story-from-35-years-ago.html -
You dumb fucks are arguing over who spit on who 50 years ago. Fuck off.
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Here’s a compilation of Vietnam veterans first hand accounts.
http://www.military-money-matters.com/vietnam-veterans-spit-on-part-2.html#
Here’s a video showing this still goes on today.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_-TBirrPiQ -
No, the argument is over whether it happened and if it was only reported on starting in the 1980s. The dumbfuck appears to be you.Gwad said:You dumb fucks are arguing over who spit on who 50 years ago. Fuck off.
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And the articles relates how there are discrepancies now than with Pickett’s original telling, and that it shares the same outline as the urban myth: returning from the airport, hippie spit in them, wanted to change into civilian clothing ASAP. You walked right into it Bob you dumbass.SFGbob said:Two incidents reported on in the early 1970s.
In the Dec. 27, 1971, CBS News segment, Pickett tells reporter Dean, “Man, I got into the airport and these two dudes walked up—one of them spit at me.”
In a June 2, 1971, Washington Post article, Minarik says that hours after his Dec. 10, 1968, discharge from the Army, two people spat on him as he walked an Oakland, Calif., street.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2007/03/vietnam-vet-delmar-pickett-jr-stands-by-his-spit-story-from-35-years-ago.html -
Dumbfuck, you claimed that these spitting stories only started to crop up in the 1980s. I just provided you with evidence of two these spitting stories from 1971. You lied Kunt.HardlyClothed said:
And the articles relates how there are discrepancies now than with Pickett’s original telling, and that it shares the same outline as the urban myth: returning from the airport, hippie spit in them, wanted to change into civilian clothing ASAP. You walked right into it Bob you dumbass.SFGbob said:Two incidents reported on in the early 1970s.
In the Dec. 27, 1971, CBS News segment, Pickett tells reporter Dean, “Man, I got into the airport and these two dudes walked up—one of them spit at me.”
In a June 2, 1971, Washington Post article, Minarik says that hours after his Dec. 10, 1968, discharge from the Army, two people spat on him as he walked an Oakland, Calif., street.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2007/03/vietnam-vet-delmar-pickett-jr-stands-by-his-spit-story-from-35-years-ago.html -
It’s not an argument whether there are first hand accounts by vietnam vets. It’s an argument that they are almost certainly lying about it because every incident follows basically the same pattern and there are almost zero contemporaneous accounts of the spitting. It’s a myth.USMChawk said:Here’s a compilation of Vietnam veterans first hand accounts.
http://www.military-money-matters.com/vietnam-veterans-spit-on-part-2.html#
Here’s a video showing this still goes on today.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_-TBirrPiQ -
Hi there dumbfucks,
My dad was drafted into Vietnam, served in the special forces in some of the worst shit you can imagine, and then went to UW and was a lot more than spit on by anti-war protesters. To this fucking day, he is reluctant to tell people he doesn't know of his veteran status because of the stigma that surrounded being a Vietnam veteran in that era.
I have no doubt you'll dismiss or rationalize this to fit your worldview. Sincerely, go fuck yourselves. -
The myth that started in the 80s is that treatment of returning vietnam vets was terrible on the whole. That it was widespread. That’s untrue. You found two accounts from the 70s where the vets give sketchy accounts of being spit on that follow the outline of the myth. And the other was a fight at a high school football game. Wow kids never fight at high school football games. You’re so full of shit all the time.SFGbob said:
Dumbfuck, you claimed that these spitting stories only started to crop up in the 1980s. I just provided you with evidence of two these spitting stories from 1971. You lied Kunt.HardlyClothed said:
And the articles relates how there are discrepancies now than with Pickett’s original telling, and that it shares the same outline as the urban myth: returning from the airport, hippie spit in them, wanted to change into civilian clothing ASAP. You walked right into it Bob you dumbass.SFGbob said:Two incidents reported on in the early 1970s.
In the Dec. 27, 1971, CBS News segment, Pickett tells reporter Dean, “Man, I got into the airport and these two dudes walked up—one of them spit at me.”
In a June 2, 1971, Washington Post article, Minarik says that hours after his Dec. 10, 1968, discharge from the Army, two people spat on him as he walked an Oakland, Calif., street.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2007/03/vietnam-vet-delmar-pickett-jr-stands-by-his-spit-story-from-35-years-ago.html -
Double down Kunt, double down.HardlyClothed said:
The myth that started in the 80s is that treatment of returning vietnam vets was terrible on the whole. That it was widespread. That’s untrue. You found two accounts from the 70s where the vets give sketchy accounts of being spit on that follow the outline of the myth. And the other was a fight at a high school football game. Wow kids never fight at high school football games. You’re so full of shit all the time.SFGbob said:
Dumbfuck, you claimed that these spitting stories only started to crop up in the 1980s. I just provided you with evidence of two these spitting stories from 1971. You lied Kunt.HardlyClothed said:
And the articles relates how there are discrepancies now than with Pickett’s original telling, and that it shares the same outline as the urban myth: returning from the airport, hippie spit in them, wanted to change into civilian clothing ASAP. You walked right into it Bob you dumbass.SFGbob said:Two incidents reported on in the early 1970s.
In the Dec. 27, 1971, CBS News segment, Pickett tells reporter Dean, “Man, I got into the airport and these two dudes walked up—one of them spit at me.”
In a June 2, 1971, Washington Post article, Minarik says that hours after his Dec. 10, 1968, discharge from the Army, two people spat on him as he walked an Oakland, Calif., street.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2007/03/vietnam-vet-delmar-pickett-jr-stands-by-his-spit-story-from-35-years-ago.html -
He’s almost certainly lying about his treatment by anti-war protestors at UW and is probably just another right-wing dipshit, like his kid, who fabricated those details for the sake of hippie-punching.UW_Doog_Bot said:Hi there dumbfucks,
My dad was drafted into Vietnam, served in the special forces in some of the worst shit you can imagine, and then went to UW and was a lot more than spit on by anti-war protesters. To this fucking day, he is reluctant to tell people he doesn't know of his veteran status because of the stigma that surrounded being a Vietnam veteran in that era.
I have no doubt you'll dismiss or rationalize this to fit your worldview. Sincerely, go fuck yourselves.
