Veterans walk out of meeting with AOC.
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In his purported study, Lembcke's sampling was not random, it was statistically insignificant, and he stated that stories of spitting first surfaced in the 1980s. And he espouses that post-traumatic stress disorder was an invention of the government to garner support for the war.
But Lembcke is refuted by many other sources, including Jim Lindgren, a Northwestern University law professor who cited news accounts that documented many spitting incidents. One example: A 1967 Bucks County Courier Times article reporting that two sailors were spat on outside a high school football game by a gang of about 10 young men. One of the sailors was stabbed.
Others:
• In October 1967, Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter James Reston's front page article in the New York Times described his eyewitness account of protest behavior so vulgar that spitting was the least of the transgressions.
• Even Medal of Honor recipients were abused and "spat upon as 'monsters'," according to the head of the Congressional Medal of Honor Society, WWII medalist Thomas J. Kelly. Kelly recounted how about 200 anti-war protesters showed up one year to harass the Medal of Honor recipients at their annual dinner. WWII Medalist James Conners was unable to avoid a particularly obnoxious man yelling, "Killer, killer, killer." Conners decked him.
• Other spitting incidents were reported by Pulitzer Prize winners Max Frankel in the New York Times (November 1969) and Carl Bernstein in the Washington Post (May 1970).
Hardly shocking that an anti_American piece of shit like Hardly Clothed swallows anti-American propaganda from an avowed socialist like Jerry Lembcke. -
All you have is vets claiming mistreatment decades later
Other spitting incidents were reported by Pulitzer Prize winners Max Frankel in the New York Times (November 1969) and Carl Bernstein in the Washington Post (May 1970).
All you have is a lying, anti_American pro-Communist, pro-Jihadi piece of shit.
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Your strongest supporting evidence is a fight that happened between teenagers outside of a high school football game.SFGbob said:In his purported study, Lembcke's sampling was not random, it was statistically insignificant, and he stated that stories of spitting first surfaced in the 1980s. And he espouses that post-traumatic stress disorder was an invention of the government to garner support for the war.
But Lembcke is refuted by many other sources, including Jim Lindgren, a Northwestern University law professor who cited news accounts that documented many spitting incidents. One example: A 1967 Bucks County Courier Times article reporting that two sailors were spat on outside a high school football game by a gang of about 10 young men. One of the sailors was stabbed.
Others:
• In October 1967, Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter James Reston's front page article in the New York Times described his eyewitness account of protest behavior so vulgar that spitting was the least of the transgressions.
• Even Medal of Honor recipients were abused and "spat upon as 'monsters'," according to the head of the Congressional Medal of Honor Society, WWII medalist Thomas J. Kelly. Kelly recounted how about 200 anti-war protesters showed up one year to harass the Medal of Honor recipients at their annual dinner. WWII Medalist James Conners was unable to avoid a particularly obnoxious man yelling, "Killer, killer, killer." Conners decked him.
• Other spitting incidents were reported by Pulitzer Prize winners Max Frankel in the New York Times (November 1969) and Carl Bernstein in the Washington Post (May 1970).
Hardly shocking that an anti_American piece of shit like Hardly Clothed swallows anti-American propaganda from an avowed socialist like Jerry Lembcke.
Wow who knew vulgar activity occurred at protests. Yet no documentation that a vet was actually spit on, just that spitting in general was the “least of the transgressions”.
“Anti-American piece of shit”. Settle down chickenhawk who wanted to invade NK, Iran, and Iraq to avenge 9/11. -
SFGbob said:
All you have is vets claiming mistreatment decades later
Other spitting incidents were reported by Pulitzer Prize winners Max Frankel in the New York Times (November 1969) and Carl Bernstein in the Washington Post (May 1970).
All you have is a lying, anti_American pro-Communist, pro-Jihadi piece of shit.
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You’re absolutely right. Disgusting that baby boomers would spit on veterans.salemcoog said:
This doesn’t read as you may think it does Mercer Island. All this says is that A: If a vet returned home and was a friend or family member of a dirty hippy, they didn’t spit on him/her. B: It says that spitting hippies favor vets that returned home over Congress.allpurpleallgold said:HardlyClothed said:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/13/opinion/myth-spitting-vietnam-protester.htmlSwaye said:
Nobody can possibly be this stupid.HardlyClothed said:
Returning Vietnam vets getting spit on by lefties is an urban legend meant to shift the blame from the older veterans and vet organizations that let them down.Bendintheriver said:
Can you democrats get any more disrespectful? You punk assed bitch you wouldn't dare say that to the face of the veterans I know. They would kick you internet tough guy ass for saying disrespectful things like that about our veterans. My guess is it was your parents spitting on returning soldiers.HardlyClothed said:A Vietnam vet who probably still thinks the rice farmers he killed deserved it and a NYPD cop. Think I’ll take AOC on this one.
I told her that, on the contrary, opponents of the war had actually tried to recruit returning veterans. I told her about a 1971 Harris Poll survey that found that 99 percent of veterans said their reception from friends and family had been friendly, and 94 percent said their reception from age-group peers, the population most likely to have included the spitters, was friendly.
A follow-up poll, conducted in 1979 for the Veterans Administration (now the Department of Veterans Affairs), reported that former antiwar activists had warmer feelings toward Vietnam veterans than toward congressional leaders or even their erstwhile fellow travelers in the movement.
So fake news go all the way back to the 70s.
This article does nothing to support your indoctrinated bullshit that protesters didn’t spit on returning vets and call them baby killers. -
Yeah, I like to claim the person who just exposed me a lying piece of shit is having a "meltdown." That's just what I do.HardlyClothed said:SFGbob said:All you have is vets claiming mistreatment decades later
Other spitting incidents were reported by Pulitzer Prize winners Max Frankel in the New York Times (November 1969) and Carl Bernstein in the Washington Post (May 1970).
All you have is a lying, anti_American pro-Communist, pro-Jihadi piece of shit.
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Where are all the people that screamed at @MariotaTheGawd for not fitting in?Bendintheriver said:
Name the place and time. I will be in the NW all week. I would love to kick an America and veteran hating democrats ass. When you start with the veteran hating bullshit you lose all respect and need to have your ass kicked. They have made sacrifices so wimp snowflakes can come on here and spew their hatred and then get treated like that.allpurpleallgold said:
Say it to his face!Bendintheriver said:
Can you democrats get any more disrespectful? You punk assed bitch you wouldn't dare say that to the face of the veterans I know. They would kick you internet tough guy ass for saying disrespectful things like that about our veterans. My guess is it was your parents spitting on returning soldiers.HardlyClothed said:A Vietnam vet who probably still thinks the rice farmers he killed deserved it and a NYPD cop. Think I’ll take AOC on this one.
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Damn hippies.SFGbob said:
Yeah, I like to claim the person who just exposed me a lying piece of shit is having a "meltdown." That's just what I do.HardlyClothed said:SFGbob said:All you have is vets claiming mistreatment decades later
Other spitting incidents were reported by Pulitzer Prize winners Max Frankel in the New York Times (November 1969) and Carl Bernstein in the Washington Post (May 1970).
All you have is a lying, anti_American pro-Communist, pro-Jihadi piece of shit.
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I guess you really are that stupid. Great reading comprehension as always.HardlyClothed said:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/13/opinion/myth-spitting-vietnam-protester.htmlSwaye said:
Nobody can possibly be this stupid.HardlyClothed said:
Returning Vietnam vets getting spit on by lefties is an urban legend meant to shift the blame from the older veterans and vet organizations that let them down.Bendintheriver said:
Can you democrats get any more disrespectful? You punk assed bitch you wouldn't dare say that to the face of the veterans I know. They would kick you internet tough guy ass for saying disrespectful things like that about our veterans. My guess is it was your parents spitting on returning soldiers.HardlyClothed said:A Vietnam vet who probably still thinks the rice farmers he killed deserved it and a NYPD cop. Think I’ll take AOC on this one.
I told her that, on the contrary, opponents of the war had actually tried to recruit returning veterans. I told her about a 1971 Harris Poll survey that found that 99 percent of veterans said their reception from friends and family had been friendly, and 94 percent said their reception from age-group peers, the population most likely to have included the spitters, was friendly.
A follow-up poll, conducted in 1979 for the Veterans Administration (now the Department of Veterans Affairs), reported that former antiwar activists had warmer feelings toward Vietnam veterans than toward congressional leaders or even their erstwhile fellow travelers in the movement. -
Are you new here?Swaye said:
Nobody can possibly be this stupid.HardlyClothed said:
Returning Vietnam vets getting spit on by lefties is an urban legend meant to shift the blame from the older veterans and vet organizations that let them down.Bendintheriver said:
Can you democrats get any more disrespectful? You punk assed bitch you wouldn't dare say that to the face of the veterans I know. They would kick you internet tough guy ass for saying disrespectful things like that about our veterans. My guess is it was your parents spitting on returning soldiers.HardlyClothed said:A Vietnam vet who probably still thinks the rice farmers he killed deserved it and a NYPD cop. Think I’ll take AOC on this one.
