Veterans walk out of meeting with AOC.
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It.Swaye said:
I wouldn't waste your time. He is either a troll or so stupid it would make Forrest Gump sad. Either way, there is no helping he/she/ze/ve/they.Gilbystaint said:
I served just post Vietnam. The disrespect and stigma was very real even towards me.HardlyClothed said:
Indoctrination is believing the spitting hippie urban legend without any contemporaneous supporting evidence. All you have is vets claiming mistreatment decades later and exposing the fabrications in the process. But it’s a convenient way to blame the left for “undermining” the war effort in Vietnam that was doomed from the start. Clearly you’re dumb enough to fall for it.salemcoog said:
This doesn’t read as you may think it does Mercer Island. All this says is that A: If a vet returned home and was a friend or family member of a dirty hippy, they didn’t spit on him/her. B: It says that spitting hippies favor vets that returned home over Congress.allpurpleallgold said:HardlyClothed said:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/13/opinion/myth-spitting-vietnam-protester.htmlSwaye said:
Nobody can possibly be this stupid.HardlyClothed said:
Returning Vietnam vets getting spit on by lefties is an urban legend meant to shift the blame from the older veterans and vet organizations that let them down.Bendintheriver said:
Can you democrats get any more disrespectful? You punk assed bitch you wouldn't dare say that to the face of the veterans I know. They would kick you internet tough guy ass for saying disrespectful things like that about our veterans. My guess is it was your parents spitting on returning soldiers.HardlyClothed said:A Vietnam vet who probably still thinks the rice farmers he killed deserved it and a NYPD cop. Think I’ll take AOC on this one.
I told her that, on the contrary, opponents of the war had actually tried to recruit returning veterans. I told her about a 1971 Harris Poll survey that found that 99 percent of veterans said their reception from friends and family had been friendly, and 94 percent said their reception from age-group peers, the population most likely to have included the spitters, was friendly.
A follow-up poll, conducted in 1979 for the Veterans Administration (now the Department of Veterans Affairs), reported that former antiwar activists had warmer feelings toward Vietnam veterans than toward congressional leaders or even their erstwhile fellow travelers in the movement.
So fake news go all the way back to the 70s.
This article does nothing to support your indoctrinated bullshit that protesters didn’t spit on returning vets and call them baby killers. -
As per usual you have no idea what this thread is about. Try a new strategy of sitting some threads out. You may even garner some respect around here.2001400ex said:
No one doubts that there wasn't distaste towards the war and for some people, there was distaste for those who served in the war. It was wrong, but it's a part of our history like the civil war is. The issue is about painting liberals as people who hated soldiers and spit on them every chance they could get.Gilbystaint said:
I served just post Vietnam. The disrespect and stigma was very real even towards me.HardlyClothed said:
Indoctrination is believing the spitting hippie urban legend without any contemporaneous supporting evidence. All you have is vets claiming mistreatment decades later and exposing the fabrications in the process. But it’s a convenient way to blame the left for “undermining” the war effort in Vietnam that was doomed from the start. Clearly you’re dumb enough to fall for it.salemcoog said:
This doesn’t read as you may think it does Mercer Island. All this says is that A: If a vet returned home and was a friend or family member of a dirty hippy, they didn’t spit on him/her. B: It says that spitting hippies favor vets that returned home over Congress.allpurpleallgold said:HardlyClothed said:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/13/opinion/myth-spitting-vietnam-protester.htmlSwaye said:
Nobody can possibly be this stupid.HardlyClothed said:
Returning Vietnam vets getting spit on by lefties is an urban legend meant to shift the blame from the older veterans and vet organizations that let them down.Bendintheriver said:
Can you democrats get any more disrespectful? You punk assed bitch you wouldn't dare say that to the face of the veterans I know. They would kick you internet tough guy ass for saying disrespectful things like that about our veterans. My guess is it was your parents spitting on returning soldiers.HardlyClothed said:A Vietnam vet who probably still thinks the rice farmers he killed deserved it and a NYPD cop. Think I’ll take AOC on this one.
I told her that, on the contrary, opponents of the war had actually tried to recruit returning veterans. I told her about a 1971 Harris Poll survey that found that 99 percent of veterans said their reception from friends and family had been friendly, and 94 percent said their reception from age-group peers, the population most likely to have included the spitters, was friendly.
A follow-up poll, conducted in 1979 for the Veterans Administration (now the Department of Veterans Affairs), reported that former antiwar activists had warmer feelings toward Vietnam veterans than toward congressional leaders or even their erstwhile fellow travelers in the movement.
So fake news go all the way back to the 70s.
This article does nothing to support your indoctrinated bullshit that protesters didn’t spit on returning vets and call them baby killers. -
The disrespect and stigma came largely from WWII vets who looked down on Vietnam vets for their failures in the war. Not the anti-war left. And there were plenty of right-wing efforts to divide returning vets from the anti-war left by blaming them for “losing the war at home”. The tale of the hippie spitting on returning vets in airports rendering it necessary to change in to civilian clothing is an urban myth that began in the ‘80s.Gilbystaint said:
I served just post Vietnam. The disrespect and stigma was very real even towards me.HardlyClothed said:
Indoctrination is believing the spitting hippie urban legend without any contemporaneous supporting evidence. All you have is vets claiming mistreatment decades later and exposing the fabrications in the process. But it’s a convenient way to blame the left for “undermining” the war effort in Vietnam that was doomed from the start. Clearly you’re dumb enough to fall for it.salemcoog said:
This doesn’t read as you may think it does Mercer Island. All this says is that A: If a vet returned home and was a friend or family member of a dirty hippy, they didn’t spit on him/her. B: It says that spitting hippies favor vets that returned home over Congress.allpurpleallgold said:HardlyClothed said:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/13/opinion/myth-spitting-vietnam-protester.htmlSwaye said:
Nobody can possibly be this stupid.HardlyClothed said:
Returning Vietnam vets getting spit on by lefties is an urban legend meant to shift the blame from the older veterans and vet organizations that let them down.Bendintheriver said:
Can you democrats get any more disrespectful? You punk assed bitch you wouldn't dare say that to the face of the veterans I know. They would kick you internet tough guy ass for saying disrespectful things like that about our veterans. My guess is it was your parents spitting on returning soldiers.HardlyClothed said:A Vietnam vet who probably still thinks the rice farmers he killed deserved it and a NYPD cop. Think I’ll take AOC on this one.
I told her that, on the contrary, opponents of the war had actually tried to recruit returning veterans. I told her about a 1971 Harris Poll survey that found that 99 percent of veterans said their reception from friends and family had been friendly, and 94 percent said their reception from age-group peers, the population most likely to have included the spitters, was friendly.
A follow-up poll, conducted in 1979 for the Veterans Administration (now the Department of Veterans Affairs), reported that former antiwar activists had warmer feelings toward Vietnam veterans than toward congressional leaders or even their erstwhile fellow travelers in the movement.
So fake news go all the way back to the 70s.
This article does nothing to support your indoctrinated bullshit that protesters didn’t spit on returning vets and call them baby killers. -
The tale of the hippie spitting on returning vets in airports rendering it necessary to change in to civilian clothing is an urban myth that began in the ‘80s.HardlyClothed said:
The disrespect and stigma came largely from WWII vets who looked down on Vietnam vets for their failures in the war. Not the anti-war left. And there were plenty of right-wing efforts to divide returning vets from the anti-war left by blaming them for “losing the war at home”. The tale of the hippie spitting on returning vets in airports rendering it necessary to change in to civilian clothing is an urban myth that began in the ‘80s.Gilbystaint said:
I served just post Vietnam. The disrespect and stigma was very real even towards me.HardlyClothed said:
Indoctrination is believing the spitting hippie urban legend without any contemporaneous supporting evidence. All you have is vets claiming mistreatment decades later and exposing the fabrications in the process. But it’s a convenient way to blame the left for “undermining” the war effort in Vietnam that was doomed from the start. Clearly you’re dumb enough to fall for it.salemcoog said:
This doesn’t read as you may think it does Mercer Island. All this says is that A: If a vet returned home and was a friend or family member of a dirty hippy, they didn’t spit on him/her. B: It says that spitting hippies favor vets that returned home over Congress.allpurpleallgold said:HardlyClothed said:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/13/opinion/myth-spitting-vietnam-protester.htmlSwaye said:
Nobody can possibly be this stupid.HardlyClothed said:
Returning Vietnam vets getting spit on by lefties is an urban legend meant to shift the blame from the older veterans and vet organizations that let them down.Bendintheriver said:
Can you democrats get any more disrespectful? You punk assed bitch you wouldn't dare say that to the face of the veterans I know. They would kick you internet tough guy ass for saying disrespectful things like that about our veterans. My guess is it was your parents spitting on returning soldiers.HardlyClothed said:A Vietnam vet who probably still thinks the rice farmers he killed deserved it and a NYPD cop. Think I’ll take AOC on this one.
I told her that, on the contrary, opponents of the war had actually tried to recruit returning veterans. I told her about a 1971 Harris Poll survey that found that 99 percent of veterans said their reception from friends and family had been friendly, and 94 percent said their reception from age-group peers, the population most likely to have included the spitters, was friendly.
A follow-up poll, conducted in 1979 for the Veterans Administration (now the Department of Veterans Affairs), reported that former antiwar activists had warmer feelings toward Vietnam veterans than toward congressional leaders or even their erstwhile fellow travelers in the movement.
So fake news go all the way back to the 70s.
This article does nothing to support your indoctrinated bullshit that protesters didn’t spit on returning vets and call them baby killers.
That's a good Kunt, just maintain the lie. So despite the fact that there are news articles from the 1970s detailing spitting incidents, according to HC the dumbfuck it's all a myth that started in the 80s. -
Share those news articles. It shouldn’t be too hard to find the archives right? You’re the biggest “prove it with a link” guy around here.SFGbob said:
The tale of the hippie spitting on returning vets in airports rendering it necessary to change in to civilian clothing is an urban myth that began in the ‘80s.HardlyClothed said:
The disrespect and stigma came largely from WWII vets who looked down on Vietnam vets for their failures in the war. Not the anti-war left. And there were plenty of right-wing efforts to divide returning vets from the anti-war left by blaming them for “losing the war at home”. The tale of the hippie spitting on returning vets in airports rendering it necessary to change in to civilian clothing is an urban myth that began in the ‘80s.Gilbystaint said:
I served just post Vietnam. The disrespect and stigma was very real even towards me.HardlyClothed said:
Indoctrination is believing the spitting hippie urban legend without any contemporaneous supporting evidence. All you have is vets claiming mistreatment decades later and exposing the fabrications in the process. But it’s a convenient way to blame the left for “undermining” the war effort in Vietnam that was doomed from the start. Clearly you’re dumb enough to fall for it.salemcoog said:
This doesn’t read as you may think it does Mercer Island. All this says is that A: If a vet returned home and was a friend or family member of a dirty hippy, they didn’t spit on him/her. B: It says that spitting hippies favor vets that returned home over Congress.allpurpleallgold said:HardlyClothed said:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/13/opinion/myth-spitting-vietnam-protester.htmlSwaye said:
Nobody can possibly be this stupid.HardlyClothed said:
Returning Vietnam vets getting spit on by lefties is an urban legend meant to shift the blame from the older veterans and vet organizations that let them down.Bendintheriver said:
Can you democrats get any more disrespectful? You punk assed bitch you wouldn't dare say that to the face of the veterans I know. They would kick you internet tough guy ass for saying disrespectful things like that about our veterans. My guess is it was your parents spitting on returning soldiers.HardlyClothed said:A Vietnam vet who probably still thinks the rice farmers he killed deserved it and a NYPD cop. Think I’ll take AOC on this one.
I told her that, on the contrary, opponents of the war had actually tried to recruit returning veterans. I told her about a 1971 Harris Poll survey that found that 99 percent of veterans said their reception from friends and family had been friendly, and 94 percent said their reception from age-group peers, the population most likely to have included the spitters, was friendly.
A follow-up poll, conducted in 1979 for the Veterans Administration (now the Department of Veterans Affairs), reported that former antiwar activists had warmer feelings toward Vietnam veterans than toward congressional leaders or even their erstwhile fellow travelers in the movement.
So fake news go all the way back to the 70s.
This article does nothing to support your indoctrinated bullshit that protesters didn’t spit on returning vets and call them baby killers.
That's a good Kunt, just maintain the lie. So despite the fact that there are news articles from the 1970s detailing spitting incidents, according to HC the dumbfuck it's all a myth that started in the 80s. -
Not sure where you read this narrative, I have taken care of Vets for quite sometime and have never witnessed one Vet disrespecting another based on what war they served in.HardlyClothed said:
The disrespect and stigma came largely from WWII vets who looked down on Vietnam vets for their failures in the war. Not the anti-war left. And there were plenty of right-wing efforts to divide returning vets from the anti-war left by blaming them for “losing the war at home”. The tale of the hippie spitting on returning vets in airports rendering it necessary to change in to civilian clothing is an urban myth that began in the ‘80s.Gilbystaint said:
I served just post Vietnam. The disrespect and stigma was very real even towards me.HardlyClothed said:
Indoctrination is believing the spitting hippie urban legend without any contemporaneous supporting evidence. All you have is vets claiming mistreatment decades later and exposing the fabrications in the process. But it’s a convenient way to blame the left for “undermining” the war effort in Vietnam that was doomed from the start. Clearly you’re dumb enough to fall for it.salemcoog said:
This doesn’t read as you may think it does Mercer Island. All this says is that A: If a vet returned home and was a friend or family member of a dirty hippy, they didn’t spit on him/her. B: It says that spitting hippies favor vets that returned home over Congress.allpurpleallgold said:HardlyClothed said:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/13/opinion/myth-spitting-vietnam-protester.htmlSwaye said:
Nobody can possibly be this stupid.HardlyClothed said:
Returning Vietnam vets getting spit on by lefties is an urban legend meant to shift the blame from the older veterans and vet organizations that let them down.Bendintheriver said:
Can you democrats get any more disrespectful? You punk assed bitch you wouldn't dare say that to the face of the veterans I know. They would kick you internet tough guy ass for saying disrespectful things like that about our veterans. My guess is it was your parents spitting on returning soldiers.HardlyClothed said:A Vietnam vet who probably still thinks the rice farmers he killed deserved it and a NYPD cop. Think I’ll take AOC on this one.
I told her that, on the contrary, opponents of the war had actually tried to recruit returning veterans. I told her about a 1971 Harris Poll survey that found that 99 percent of veterans said their reception from friends and family had been friendly, and 94 percent said their reception from age-group peers, the population most likely to have included the spitters, was friendly.
A follow-up poll, conducted in 1979 for the Veterans Administration (now the Department of Veterans Affairs), reported that former antiwar activists had warmer feelings toward Vietnam veterans than toward congressional leaders or even their erstwhile fellow travelers in the movement.
So fake news go all the way back to the 70s.
This article does nothing to support your indoctrinated bullshit that protesters didn’t spit on returning vets and call them baby killers. -
I’m talking about in the moment, between ‘67 and the late ‘70’s. Those attitudes toward vietnam vets changed as the broader population began to sympathize more with their horrifying experiences and widespread PTSD. But it wasn’t the case at the time, except ironically with the anti-war left who welcomed disillusioned vets into their movement.Gilbystaint said:
Not sure where you read this narrative, I have taken care of Vets for quite sometime and have never witnessed one Vet disrespecting another based on what war they served in.HardlyClothed said:
The disrespect and stigma came largely from WWII vets who looked down on Vietnam vets for their failures in the war. Not the anti-war left. And there were plenty of right-wing efforts to divide returning vets from the anti-war left by blaming them for “losing the war at home”. The tale of the hippie spitting on returning vets in airports rendering it necessary to change in to civilian clothing is an urban myth that began in the ‘80s.Gilbystaint said:
I served just post Vietnam. The disrespect and stigma was very real even towards me.HardlyClothed said:
Indoctrination is believing the spitting hippie urban legend without any contemporaneous supporting evidence. All you have is vets claiming mistreatment decades later and exposing the fabrications in the process. But it’s a convenient way to blame the left for “undermining” the war effort in Vietnam that was doomed from the start. Clearly you’re dumb enough to fall for it.salemcoog said:
This doesn’t read as you may think it does Mercer Island. All this says is that A: If a vet returned home and was a friend or family member of a dirty hippy, they didn’t spit on him/her. B: It says that spitting hippies favor vets that returned home over Congress.allpurpleallgold said:HardlyClothed said:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/13/opinion/myth-spitting-vietnam-protester.htmlSwaye said:
Nobody can possibly be this stupid.HardlyClothed said:
Returning Vietnam vets getting spit on by lefties is an urban legend meant to shift the blame from the older veterans and vet organizations that let them down.Bendintheriver said:
Can you democrats get any more disrespectful? You punk assed bitch you wouldn't dare say that to the face of the veterans I know. They would kick you internet tough guy ass for saying disrespectful things like that about our veterans. My guess is it was your parents spitting on returning soldiers.HardlyClothed said:A Vietnam vet who probably still thinks the rice farmers he killed deserved it and a NYPD cop. Think I’ll take AOC on this one.
I told her that, on the contrary, opponents of the war had actually tried to recruit returning veterans. I told her about a 1971 Harris Poll survey that found that 99 percent of veterans said their reception from friends and family had been friendly, and 94 percent said their reception from age-group peers, the population most likely to have included the spitters, was friendly.
A follow-up poll, conducted in 1979 for the Veterans Administration (now the Department of Veterans Affairs), reported that former antiwar activists had warmer feelings toward Vietnam veterans than toward congressional leaders or even their erstwhile fellow travelers in the movement.
So fake news go all the way back to the 70s.
This article does nothing to support your indoctrinated bullshit that protesters didn’t spit on returning vets and call them baby killers. -
It's bullshit. All the Korea and WWII guys hated the draft dodgers and Jane Fonda, not the vets. Except the faggots like John Kerry.Gilbystaint said:
Not sure where you read this narrative, I have taken care of Vets for quite sometime and have never witnessed one Vet disrespecting another based on what war they served in.HardlyClothed said:
The disrespect and stigma came largely from WWII vets who looked down on Vietnam vets for their failures in the war. Not the anti-war left. And there were plenty of right-wing efforts to divide returning vets from the anti-war left by blaming them for “losing the war at home”. The tale of the hippie spitting on returning vets in airports rendering it necessary to change in to civilian clothing is an urban myth that began in the ‘80s.Gilbystaint said:
I served just post Vietnam. The disrespect and stigma was very real even towards me.HardlyClothed said:
Indoctrination is believing the spitting hippie urban legend without any contemporaneous supporting evidence. All you have is vets claiming mistreatment decades later and exposing the fabrications in the process. But it’s a convenient way to blame the left for “undermining” the war effort in Vietnam that was doomed from the start. Clearly you’re dumb enough to fall for it.salemcoog said:
This doesn’t read as you may think it does Mercer Island. All this says is that A: If a vet returned home and was a friend or family member of a dirty hippy, they didn’t spit on him/her. B: It says that spitting hippies favor vets that returned home over Congress.allpurpleallgold said:HardlyClothed said:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/13/opinion/myth-spitting-vietnam-protester.htmlSwaye said:
Nobody can possibly be this stupid.HardlyClothed said:
Returning Vietnam vets getting spit on by lefties is an urban legend meant to shift the blame from the older veterans and vet organizations that let them down.Bendintheriver said:
Can you democrats get any more disrespectful? You punk assed bitch you wouldn't dare say that to the face of the veterans I know. They would kick you internet tough guy ass for saying disrespectful things like that about our veterans. My guess is it was your parents spitting on returning soldiers.HardlyClothed said:A Vietnam vet who probably still thinks the rice farmers he killed deserved it and a NYPD cop. Think I’ll take AOC on this one.
I told her that, on the contrary, opponents of the war had actually tried to recruit returning veterans. I told her about a 1971 Harris Poll survey that found that 99 percent of veterans said their reception from friends and family had been friendly, and 94 percent said their reception from age-group peers, the population most likely to have included the spitters, was friendly.
A follow-up poll, conducted in 1979 for the Veterans Administration (now the Department of Veterans Affairs), reported that former antiwar activists had warmer feelings toward Vietnam veterans than toward congressional leaders or even their erstwhile fellow travelers in the movement.
So fake news go all the way back to the 70s.
This article does nothing to support your indoctrinated bullshit that protesters didn’t spit on returning vets and call them baby killers. -
Two incidents reported on in the early 1970s.
In the Dec. 27, 1971, CBS News segment, Pickett tells reporter Dean, “Man, I got into the airport and these two dudes walked up—one of them spit at me.”
In a June 2, 1971, Washington Post article, Minarik says that hours after his Dec. 10, 1968, discharge from the Army, two people spat on him as he walked an Oakland, Calif., street.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2007/03/vietnam-vet-delmar-pickett-jr-stands-by-his-spit-story-from-35-years-ago.html -
You dumb fucks are arguing over who spit on who 50 years ago. Fuck off.




