I miss the Nebraska classy gentlemen’s club

YellowSnow said:

MikeDamone said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

I love this thread. The futility and desperation of the replies illustrates completely that the federal government is an abject joke and failure. If only pelosi and Schumer would play nice with trump then WE could accomplish stuff1!?!1 Good luck trumptards.

Reducing DC to common defense and common currency is the only rational solution. There’s not a single branch of the federal government that has any credibility or deserves any respect.

I agree with your assessment of the Federal Governments abilities but aren't you a BIG supporter of the California state government?

California has created the greatest wealth producing society and culture the world has ever seen. Despite government, including the state government. The heavy hand and cost of an oppressive and ignorant federal government is far more burdensome.

“California” didn’t create shit. People there did. Individuals. It could be even greater if the fuck heads in Sacramento would stand down.

This is a peculiar take. So where did the R&D funding come from that made Silicon Valley possible?

Not to mention the highly educated and innovative workforce that came out of the UCs and CSUs

MikeDamone said:

BearsWiin said:

YellowSnow said:

MikeDamone said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

I love this thread. The futility and desperation of the replies illustrates completely that the federal government is an abject joke and failure. If only pelosi and Schumer would play nice with trump then WE could accomplish stuff1!?!1 Good luck trumptards.

Reducing DC to common defense and common currency is the only rational solution. There’s not a single branch of the federal government that has any credibility or deserves any respect.

I agree with your assessment of the Federal Governments abilities but aren't you a BIG supporter of the California state government?

California has created the greatest wealth producing society and culture the world has ever seen. Despite government, including the state government. The heavy hand and cost of an oppressive and ignorant federal government is far more burdensome.

“California” didn’t create shit. People there did. Individuals. It could be even greater if the fuck heads in Sacramento would stand down.

This is a peculiar take. So where did the R&D funding come from that made Silicon Valley possible?

Not to mention the highly educated and innovative workforce that came out of the UCs and CSUs

Because if the state didn’t have universities there would be no universities.

Sorry you don't understand the massive investment that the state of California made in its university system, and thus its young people, the last several decades

YellowSnow said:

BearsWiin said:

YellowSnow said:

BearsWiin said:

YellowSnow said:

MikeDamone said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

I love this thread. The futility and desperation of the replies illustrates completely that the federal government is an abject joke and failure. If only pelosi and Schumer would play nice with trump then WE could accomplish stuff1!?!1 Good luck trumptards.

Reducing DC to common defense and common currency is the only rational solution. There’s not a single branch of the federal government that has any credibility or deserves any respect.

I agree with your assessment of the Federal Governments abilities but aren't you a BIG supporter of the California state government?

California has created the greatest wealth producing society and culture the world has ever seen. Despite government, including the state government. The heavy hand and cost of an oppressive and ignorant federal government is far more burdensome.

“California” didn’t create shit. People there did. Individuals. It could be even greater if the fuck heads in Sacramento would stand down.

This is a peculiar take. So where did the R&D funding come from that made Silicon Valley possible?

Not to mention the highly educated and innovative workforce that came out of the UCs and CSUs

California has benefited more from federal guvmint spending as the source of its current prosperity than any other state in the Union and it’s not even close.

Cite?

- Messican American War
- Transcontinental Choo Choo
- Central Valley Project
- Colorado River Project
- Hugely disproportionate share of Cold War DoD sepending

Etc etc

And WHAT has California ever done for us?






That's a list of benefits. Cool. I'm asking you to cite how those benefits add up to more benefits than any other state has received, as you stated.

BearsWiin said:

MikeDamone said:

BearsWiin said:

YellowSnow said:

MikeDamone said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

I love this thread. The futility and desperation of the replies illustrates completely that the federal government is an abject joke and failure. If only pelosi and Schumer would play nice with trump then WE could accomplish stuff1!?!1 Good luck trumptards.

Reducing DC to common defense and common currency is the only rational solution. There’s not a single branch of the federal government that has any credibility or deserves any respect.

I agree with your assessment of the Federal Governments abilities but aren't you a BIG supporter of the California state government?

California has created the greatest wealth producing society and culture the world has ever seen. Despite government, including the state government. The heavy hand and cost of an oppressive and ignorant federal government is far more burdensome.

“California” didn’t create shit. People there did. Individuals. It could be even greater if the fuck heads in Sacramento would stand down.

This is a peculiar take. So where did the R&D funding come from that made Silicon Valley possible?

Not to mention the highly educated and innovative workforce that came out of the UCs and CSUs

Because if the state didn’t have universities there would be no universities.

Sorry you don't understand the massive investment that the state of California made in its university system, and thus its young people, the last several decades

And yet the best school in the State in a private University.

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

I love this thread. The futility and desperation of the replies illustrates completely that the federal government is an abject joke and failure. If only pelosi and Schumer would play nice with trump then WE could accomplish stuff1!?!1 Good luck trumptards.

Reducing DC to common defense and common currency is the only rational solution. There’s not a single branch of the federal government that has any credibility or deserves any respect.

I agree with your assessment of the Federal Governments abilities but aren't you a BIG supporter of the California state government?

California has created the greatest wealth producing society and culture the world has ever seen. Despite government, including the state government. The heavy hand and cost of an oppressive and ignorant federal government is far more burdensome.

California is blessed with great weather, geography and natural resources. The state government is far more oppressive and burdensome to businesses here than is the Federal government. Texas, which lacks California's weather and geographical advantages actually has far out performed California in the last 10 years. While the coastal areas have done well in California the eastern parts of the state has not. One of the things that would help California is if they opened up drilling for oil and gas but the state government doesn't allow it.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckdevore/2018/08/27/of-the-5-big-states-texas-1-for-growth-california-1-for-poverty/#401d278a70ef

GayBob is a California resident who got a federal tax cut in 2018.

Wealth builders, producers, leaders and capitalists in California paid more in 2018.

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

I love this thread. The futility and desperation of the replies illustrates completely that the federal government is an abject joke and failure. If only pelosi and Schumer would play nice with trump then WE could accomplish stuff1!?!1 Good luck trumptards.

Reducing DC to common defense and common currency is the only rational solution. There’s not a single branch of the federal government that has any credibility or deserves any respect.

I agree with your assessment of the Federal Governments abilities but aren't you a BIG supporter of the California state government?

California has created the greatest wealth producing society and culture the world has ever seen. Despite government, including the state government. The heavy hand and cost of an oppressive and ignorant federal government is far more burdensome.

California is blessed with great weather, geography and natural resources. The state government is far more oppressive and burdensome to businesses here than is the Federal government. Texas, which lacks California's weather and geographical advantages actually has far out performed California in the last 10 years. While the coastal areas have done well in California the eastern parts of the state has not. One of the things that would help California is if they opened up drilling for oil and gas but the state government doesn't allow it.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckdevore/2018/08/27/of-the-5-big-states-texas-1-for-growth-california-1-for-poverty/#401d278a70ef

GayBob is a California resident who got a federal tax cut in 2018.

Wealth builders, producers, leaders and capitalists in California paid more in 2018.

I have three kids with additional deductions for them my net Federal taxes was a slight decline. As my kids get older I'll be paying more.

MikeDamone said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

I love this thread. The futility and desperation of the replies illustrates completely that the federal government is an abject joke and failure. If only pelosi and Schumer would play nice with trump then WE could accomplish stuff1!?!1 Good luck trumptards.

Reducing DC to common defense and common currency is the only rational solution. There’s not a single branch of the federal government that has any credibility or deserves any respect.

The federal government is an abject failure. Any spending not authorized in the constitution is bullshit. Every department not found in the constitution needs to be eliminated. They states can deal with it if they choose.

So long Air Force!

SFGbob said:

BearsWiin said:

MikeDamone said:

BearsWiin said:

YellowSnow said:

MikeDamone said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

I love this thread. The futility and desperation of the replies illustrates completely that the federal government is an abject joke and failure. If only pelosi and Schumer would play nice with trump then WE could accomplish stuff1!?!1 Good luck trumptards.

Reducing DC to common defense and common currency is the only rational solution. There’s not a single branch of the federal government that has any credibility or deserves any respect.

I agree with your assessment of the Federal Governments abilities but aren't you a BIG supporter of the California state government?

California has created the greatest wealth producing society and culture the world has ever seen. Despite government, including the state government. The heavy hand and cost of an oppressive and ignorant federal government is far more burdensome.

“California” didn’t create shit. People there did. Individuals. It could be even greater if the fuck heads in Sacramento would stand down.

This is a peculiar take. So where did the R&D funding come from that made Silicon Valley possible?

Not to mention the highly educated and innovative workforce that came out of the UCs and CSUs

Because if the state didn’t have universities there would be no universities.

Sorry you don't understand the massive investment that the state of California made in its university system, and thus its young people, the last several decades

And yet the best school in the State in a private University.

Based on what?

SFGbob said:

HHusky said:

SFGbob said:

BearsWiin said:

Strasser, lol

Brutal rebuttal, completely destroyed the point.


Was Strasser a Nazi? Yes or no?

He was until the Nazis murdered him.

I guess Trotsky really wasn't a commie since Stalin murdered him. Great Kunt logic O'Keefed.

You always back the losers in ideological squabbles?

SFGbob said:

BearsWiin said:

SFGbob said:

BearsWiin said:

MikeDamone said:

BearsWiin said:

YellowSnow said:

MikeDamone said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

I love this thread. The futility and desperation of the replies illustrates completely that the federal government is an abject joke and failure. If only pelosi and Schumer would play nice with trump then WE could accomplish stuff1!?!1 Good luck trumptards.

Reducing DC to common defense and common currency is the only rational solution. There’s not a single branch of the federal government that has any credibility or deserves any respect.

I agree with your assessment of the Federal Governments abilities but aren't you a BIG supporter of the California state government?

California has created the greatest wealth producing society and culture the world has ever seen. Despite government, including the state government. The heavy hand and cost of an oppressive and ignorant federal government is far more burdensome.

“California” didn’t create shit. People there did. Individuals. It could be even greater if the fuck heads in Sacramento would stand down.

This is a peculiar take. So where did the R&D funding come from that made Silicon Valley possible?

Not to mention the highly educated and innovative workforce that came out of the UCs and CSUs

Because if the state didn’t have universities there would be no universities.

Sorry you don't understand the massive investment that the state of California made in its university system, and thus its young people, the last several decades

And yet the best school in the State in a private University.

Cal is public. But if you're mistakenly referring to stanfurd, their total enrollment in 2017 was 16k. Total enrollment for UC was 280k, and for CSU was 460k.

Cal is a good school but Stanford is better. I didn't say anything about their enrollment.

Stanford is more popular. I'm not sure I'd say it's better, and I'm generally now a supporter of private college.

Stanford is prettier and has more money (now) and is harder to get into (now) ... a big mix of merit, achievement, marketing and momentum. But over the course of time, I would take the hallmark achievements that have come out of UC Berkeley over those that have come out of Stanford. Different schools and different emphases, and both are top notch without question. That said, some historically significant shit has come out of Cal, and their departments are all top ranked.

It all depends what you value at the end of the day. But when most of the elements on the periodic table were discovered and named after professors at your school, you're doing something.

And, Cal Tech and Pomona might have something to say about this debate, although both are private, so never mind.

But public and private alike, they've all benefited from the largesse that has been the California economy.