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  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    CD, I think we've got to quit over simplifying the free trade debate discussion. China is a much different animal when it comes our national interests, than, say opening up our markets to Japan or Germany which are both liberal democracies and close allies. Did you know that back in the 1980's when the domestic automakers were getting hammered by Japanese imports, we were able to reach an agreement with Japan where Toyota, HondoFS, etc started opening up plants in the US? They were a close ally and willing to work with us to save some jerbs in America. Hell, my wife's MDX is made by a bunch of cousin fuckers down in Bammer. China doesn't want to be cooperative because they are a mercantilist, dictatorship bent on displacing the US the the sole superpower.
    So let’s pay more for consumer goods, destroy markets and undermine the 60 year old trade liberation infrastructure while trump sorts out a “deal” with “enforcement”?

  • BennyBeaverBennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    salemcoog said:

    So which is it Benny? Is your company gonna have to move production to Mexico or are they simply going to use another supplier outside of China? And since you sell what sounds like the equivalent of a home based cold fusion reactor, why would you care either way.
    In the short-mid term, we'll pass the tariff onto the customer, as stated over and over again in this thread. Who knows? Maybe they go away in 2020 or even sooner.

    In the long term, the correct answer is: abundance. Expansion of production in Mexico is going to happen regardless of the 232 and 301 tariff increases. The customer base is expanding in Mexico and competition is driving market prices lower.

    The longer term play is to exit current "low tech" products in the 2025-2030 time frame, and replace with new technologies.

    Sincerely,

    Captain of Industry Guy
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    Now hold on a second...

    China entered the WTO in 2001. Average GDP growth per year in the US was way higher in the period 1945- 2001 than it's been sense. We had plenty of free trade with other global trading partners prior to 2001. It ain't FREE TRADE if the other side ain't FREE. I love buying shit from Japan, Mexico, Germany, Vietnam, etc. Fuck China.
    So based on current and historical data, we don’t need a trade agreement with China, tariffs and trade wars are fucking stupid and free people in free markets will always win? That’s what I’ve been saying. Fuck China. The US with California has and will always win without this trumptardian protectionism, isolationism, and ridiculous “trade deal.”
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 110,106 Founders Club

    So based on current and historical data, we don’t need a trade agreement with China, tariffs and trade wars are fucking stupid and free people in free markets will always win? That’s what I’ve been saying. Fuck China. The US with California has and will always win without this trumptardian protectionism, isolationism, and ridiculous “trade deal.”
    No
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,181

    So based on current and historical data, we don’t need a trade agreement with China, tariffs and trade wars are fucking stupid and free people in free markets will always win? That’s what I’ve been saying. Fuck China. The US with California has and will always win without this trumptardian protectionism, isolationism, and ridiculous “trade deal.”
    I love how this dipshit thinks intellectual property theft is part of a "free market."
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,896
    SFGbob said:

    I love how this dipshit thinks intellectual property theft is part of a "free market."
    Just as He believes hiring no skilled fence jumpers for .30 on the dollar is free market as well.
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,794 Founders Club

    "Burden the eager donkey" Been there, done that in the consulting world. I'd rather get paid for being smart than for working hard.

  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,807

    Now hold on a second...

    China entered the WTO in 2001. Average GDP growth per year in the US was way higher in the period 1945- 2001 than it's been sense. We had plenty of free trade with other global trading partners prior to 2001. It ain't FREE TRADE if the other side ain't FREE. I love buying shit from Japan, Mexico, Germany, Vietnam, etc. Fuck China.
    Our access to their markets is full of barriers. Period. It's not free trade.

    And it's true: they are an abortion on the environment.

    Bringing China to heel is important.
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    SFGbob said:

    I love how this dipshit thinks intellectual property theft is part of a "free market."
    salemcoog said:

    Just as He believes hiring no skilled fence jumpers for .30 on the dollar is free market as well.
    Just as we see who is unable to compete in a free market without tariffs and protectionism.
  • BennyBeaverBennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NZN_a9N2q4
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,807
    salemcoog said:

    Just as He believes hiring no skilled fence jumpers for .30 on the dollar is free market as well.
    That is free market. The opposite of that is China.

  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,181

    Just as we see who is unable to compete in a free market without tariffs and protectionism.
    Just as we see a fucking moron with his canned response that doesn't address anything I said.

    Let see how well you compete Kunt when all your proprietary secrets and capital are stolen.

    You're such a fucking fraud.
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    SFGbob said:

    Just as we see a fucking moron with his canned response that doesn't address anything I said.

    Let see how well you compete Kunt when all your proprietary secrets and capital are stolen.

    You're such a fucking fraud.
    You’re such a fucking victim.
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,794 Founders Club

    That is free market. The opposite of that is China.

    Still I don't like you driving up #myauroa with your oily hair and fancy suits trying to pass yourself off as a decent American @creepycoug
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,181

    You’re such a fucking victim.
    What do you mean Kunt? I'm just advocating that you compete under the same standards you're proposing for everyone else. What the matter Kunt ? Can't you compete? All of your pricing and investment strategies and vehicles should be made public knowledge and every few months there should be a raid on your financial accounts where a 1/3 or half of your capital is stolen.

    What's the matter Kunt? Can't you compete or are you just a fucking victim?


    You're a fucking ignorant fraud with a fucking big mouth.
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    SFGbob said:

    What do you mean Kunt? I'm just advocating that you compete under the same standards you're proposing for everyone else. What the matter Kunt ? Can't you compete? All of your pricing and investment strategies and vehicles should be made public knowledge and every few months there should be a raid on your financial accounts where a 1/3 or half of your capital is stolen.

    What's the matter Kunt? Can't you compete or are you just a fucking victim?


    You're a fucking ignorant fraud with a fucking big mouth.
    I already compete under see the same standards as everyone else.

    I’m sorry you can’t compete and need trump’s administration to protect you from further failure and demise.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,807

    Still I don't like you driving up #myauroa with your oily hair and fancy suits trying to pass yourself off as a decent American @creepycoug
    ... in this clean country
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,807

    Guys, it's Friday, go have a drink already. Or if you are Damone, have another drink at the bar.

    Indeed.

    Cheers!
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