Gangster in the WH

pawz

UW_Doog_Bot said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

UW_Doog_Bot said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

Both parties but especially the Rats starting with Clinton have been bending over for the Chi Coms. They've been stealing us blind for years now and we have done nothing. CD is just a fucking crank with no answers and a raft of strawman ass fucks. No one is claiming that tariffs equal free trade or any of the other laundry list of crap he cites. Ask him what should be done about China IP theft and you'll get another one of his sweet Kunt acts. The guy has nothing.

Can you read? I told you skilled and educated Americans in California eat the Chinese for lunch every day. Better product. Better service. Better skills. That’s why you don’t get it. That’s why you are a failure. So sorry for you.

No answer but lots of mouth. Huawei, the Chinese tech company is currently the world’s biggest supplier of telecom network equipment and the number two cellphone producer. They had $100 Billion in revenue last year and they've been stealing from us for over decade. Gosh and CD the ignorant Kunt claimed that California was eating China's lunch. I "get" that you have nothing but your ignorant mouth.

Again, I’m sorry you don’t have the skills or capabilities to compete. It’s not a problem in capital markets. We win. Sounds like you’ve made a lot of poor life decisions Bob.

Except that we historically have these notions that inventors and innovators should get paid for doing so. The Chinese don't. In fact, per Marxist doctrine IP is all property of the state anyways. This is why China can't innovate shit. So they steal it from everyone else. Pretending it's not a problem with some defense of free markets is kind of disingenuous. Doubly so when they have actual detention camps with slave labor all over XinJiang and Tibet.

Good points. David Ricardo had it right though. Highly skilled and competitive US labor will beat China every single time. A tariff regime defeats our advantage and reduces us to the level of mercantilists and protectionists. We are better off innovating, leading, producing and winning. The alternative is to reduce ourselves to the lowest common denominator of trumptardism.
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Except that in the age of the internet innovation travels across the globe in seconds. Never mind that additionally Chinese state and state sponsored actors are actively sabotaging and stealing anything we innovate.

In my industry we are literally attacked by Chinese malware/spyware every, single, fucking day.

Did you watch the video I posted the other day of a four star general with a phd in economics discussing this?

@UW_Doog_Bot

Link plz

creepycoug

salemcoog said:

creepycoug said:

salemcoog said:

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

YellowSnow said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

YellowSnow said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

UW_Doog_Bot said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

Doogles said:

Bleeding heart progressives should be demanding a quarantine of all Nations that utilize child slave labor in the global economy.

I spend 200 bucks on sneakers that cost 5 bucks to make. Surely there is some wiggle room here.

Jfc. @UW_Doog_Bot clean up on aisle 1.

I apologize since you’ve already addressed this once today. You are very good at explaining markets and micro economics.

In summation:

The Right: Free markets work best! Except internationally, we need to control international markets.

The Left: Free markets work best! Except domestically, we need to control domestic markets.

Doog_Bot: *sigh*

I'd Pinochet the lot of you if I didn't believe in the universality of human rights.

Also in summation, using government to control markets (through taxes, tariffs, and regulations) is futile and self-defeating in both international and domestic markets.

No matter how sanctimonious or self-righteous you are, you are not changing the laws of nature.

CD, I think we've got to quit over simplifying the free trade debate discussion. China is a much different animal when it comes our national interests, than, say opening up our markets to Japan or Germany which are both liberal democracies and close allies. Did you know that back in the 1980's when the domestic automakers were getting hammered by Japanese imports, we were able to reach an agreement with Japan where Toyota, HondoFS, etc started opening up plants in the US? They were a close ally and willing to work with us to save some jerbs in America. Hell, my wife's MDX is made by a bunch of cousin fuckers down in Bammer. China doesn't want to be cooperative because they are a mercantilist, dictatorship bent on displacing the US the the sole superpower.

So let’s pay more for consumer goods, destroy markets and undermine the 60 year old trade liberation infrastructure while trump sorts out a “deal” with “enforcement”?

Now hold on a second...

China entered the WTO in 2001. Average GDP growth per year in the US was way higher in the period 1945- 2001 than it's been sense. We had plenty of free trade with other global trading partners prior to 2001. It ain't FREE TRADE if the other side ain't FREE. I love buying shit from Japan, Mexico, Germany, Vietnam, etc. Fuck China.

So based on current and historical data, we don’t need a trade agreement with China, tariffs and trade wars are fucking stupid and free people in free markets will always win? That’s what I’ve been saying. Fuck China. The US with California has and will always win without this trumptardian protectionism, isolationism, and ridiculous “trade deal.”

I love how this dipshit thinks intellectual property theft is part of a "free market."

Just as He believes hiring no skilled fence jumpers for .30 on the dollar is free market as well.

That is free market. The opposite of that is China.

In the Wild West era, sure.gif.

No, not Wild West Cuog! The free migration of labor and capital is the baseline. I assume they teach economis at Cuog. Every single impediment is an inefficiency. Some of those are warranted, some are not. People and governments have different views of them for varying reasons. But labor and capital finding one another in the market with no impediments is the baseline.

As for our situation, I have yet to hear a cogent argument, in the Tug or elsewhere, about the evils of letting in cheap labor other than exaggerated / made-up stories of legions of Mexicans getting free bennies from the Fed that are denied to our veterans.

Bullshit or not, that's not an economic argument in any event. On that front, all I see are posts with conclusory statements about the depressing effects on wages for low-skilled domestic workers (no shit?) made by fellow Tugmen whose homes are full of cheap shit imported from Mexico and China. Apparently the domestic manufacturer isn't on their minds. So, I'm not persuaded.

YellowSnow

creepycoug said:

salemcoog said:

creepycoug said:

salemcoog said:

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

YellowSnow said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

YellowSnow said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

UW_Doog_Bot said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

Doogles said:

Bleeding heart progressives should be demanding a quarantine of all Nations that utilize child slave labor in the global economy.

I spend 200 bucks on sneakers that cost 5 bucks to make. Surely there is some wiggle room here.

Jfc. @UW_Doog_Bot clean up on aisle 1.

I apologize since you’ve already addressed this once today. You are very good at explaining markets and micro economics.

In summation:

The Right: Free markets work best! Except internationally, we need to control international markets.

The Left: Free markets work best! Except domestically, we need to control domestic markets.

Doog_Bot: *sigh*

I'd Pinochet the lot of you if I didn't believe in the universality of human rights.

Also in summation, using government to control markets (through taxes, tariffs, and regulations) is futile and self-defeating in both international and domestic markets.

No matter how sanctimonious or self-righteous you are, you are not changing the laws of nature.

CD, I think we've got to quit over simplifying the free trade debate discussion. China is a much different animal when it comes our national interests, than, say opening up our markets to Japan or Germany which are both liberal democracies and close allies. Did you know that back in the 1980's when the domestic automakers were getting hammered by Japanese imports, we were able to reach an agreement with Japan where Toyota, HondoFS, etc started opening up plants in the US? They were a close ally and willing to work with us to save some jerbs in America. Hell, my wife's MDX is made by a bunch of cousin fuckers down in Bammer. China doesn't want to be cooperative because they are a mercantilist, dictatorship bent on displacing the US the the sole superpower.

So let’s pay more for consumer goods, destroy markets and undermine the 60 year old trade liberation infrastructure while trump sorts out a “deal” with “enforcement”?

Now hold on a second...

China entered the WTO in 2001. Average GDP growth per year in the US was way higher in the period 1945- 2001 than it's been sense. We had plenty of free trade with other global trading partners prior to 2001. It ain't FREE TRADE if the other side ain't FREE. I love buying shit from Japan, Mexico, Germany, Vietnam, etc. Fuck China.

So based on current and historical data, we don’t need a trade agreement with China, tariffs and trade wars are fucking stupid and free people in free markets will always win? That’s what I’ve been saying. Fuck China. The US with California has and will always win without this trumptardian protectionism, isolationism, and ridiculous “trade deal.”

I love how this dipshit thinks intellectual property theft is part of a "free market."

Just as He believes hiring no skilled fence jumpers for .30 on the dollar is free market as well.

That is free market. The opposite of that is China.

In the Wild West era, sure.gif.

No, not Wild West Cuog! The free migration of labor and capital is the baseline. I assume they teach economis at Cuog. Every single impediment is an inefficiency. Some of those are warranted, some are not. People and governments have different views of them for varying reasons. But labor and capital finding one another in the market with no impediments is the baseline.

As for our situation, I have yet to hear a cogent argument, in the Tug or elsewhere, about the evils of letting in cheap labor other than exaggerated / made-up stories of legions of Mexicans getting free bennies from the Fed that are denied to our veterans.

Bullshit or not, that's not an economic argument in any event. On that front, all I see are posts with conclusory statements about the depressing effects on wages for low-skilled domestic workers (no shit?) made by fellow Tugmen whose homes are full of cheap shit imported from Mexico and China. Apparently the domestic manufacturer isn't on their minds. So, I'm not persuaded.

It’s a complicated issue senor and both extremes of the debate over simplify things. One challenge with the current state of affairs is the bennefits flow mostly to the higher earners. Take the income inequality for instance in Casa de Orina Amarilla. Yo soy muy pobre...so I have to mow my own lawn, pero mi esposa gets to hire a house cleaner. Life’s not fair sometimes.

creepycoug

YellowSnow said:

creepycoug said:

salemcoog said:

creepycoug said:

salemcoog said:

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

YellowSnow said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

YellowSnow said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

UW_Doog_Bot said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

Doogles said:

Bleeding heart progressives should be demanding a quarantine of all Nations that utilize child slave labor in the global economy.

I spend 200 bucks on sneakers that cost 5 bucks to make. Surely there is some wiggle room here.

Jfc. @UW_Doog_Bot clean up on aisle 1.

I apologize since you’ve already addressed this once today. You are very good at explaining markets and micro economics.

In summation:

The Right: Free markets work best! Except internationally, we need to control international markets.

The Left: Free markets work best! Except domestically, we need to control domestic markets.

Doog_Bot: *sigh*

I'd Pinochet the lot of you if I didn't believe in the universality of human rights.

Also in summation, using government to control markets (through taxes, tariffs, and regulations) is futile and self-defeating in both international and domestic markets.

No matter how sanctimonious or self-righteous you are, you are not changing the laws of nature.

CD, I think we've got to quit over simplifying the free trade debate discussion. China is a much different animal when it comes our national interests, than, say opening up our markets to Japan or Germany which are both liberal democracies and close allies. Did you know that back in the 1980's when the domestic automakers were getting hammered by Japanese imports, we were able to reach an agreement with Japan where Toyota, HondoFS, etc started opening up plants in the US? They were a close ally and willing to work with us to save some jerbs in America. Hell, my wife's MDX is made by a bunch of cousin fuckers down in Bammer. China doesn't want to be cooperative because they are a mercantilist, dictatorship bent on displacing the US the the sole superpower.

So let’s pay more for consumer goods, destroy markets and undermine the 60 year old trade liberation infrastructure while trump sorts out a “deal” with “enforcement”?

Now hold on a second...

China entered the WTO in 2001. Average GDP growth per year in the US was way higher in the period 1945- 2001 than it's been sense. We had plenty of free trade with other global trading partners prior to 2001. It ain't FREE TRADE if the other side ain't FREE. I love buying shit from Japan, Mexico, Germany, Vietnam, etc. Fuck China.

So based on current and historical data, we don’t need a trade agreement with China, tariffs and trade wars are fucking stupid and free people in free markets will always win? That’s what I’ve been saying. Fuck China. The US with California has and will always win without this trumptardian protectionism, isolationism, and ridiculous “trade deal.”

I love how this dipshit thinks intellectual property theft is part of a "free market."

Just as He believes hiring no skilled fence jumpers for .30 on the dollar is free market as well.

That is free market. The opposite of that is China.

In the Wild West era, sure.gif.

No, not Wild West Cuog! The free migration of labor and capital is the baseline. I assume they teach economis at Cuog. Every single impediment is an inefficiency. Some of those are warranted, some are not. People and governments have different views of them for varying reasons. But labor and capital finding one another in the market with no impediments is the baseline.

As for our situation, I have yet to hear a cogent argument, in the Tug or elsewhere, about the evils of letting in cheap labor other than exaggerated / made-up stories of legions of Mexicans getting free bennies from the Fed that are denied to our veterans.

Bullshit or not, that's not an economic argument in any event. On that front, all I see are posts with conclusory statements about the depressing effects on wages for low-skilled domestic workers (no shit?) made by fellow Tugmen whose homes are full of cheap shit imported from Mexico and China. Apparently the domestic manufacturer isn't on their minds. So, I'm not persuaded.

It’s a complicated issue senor and both extremes of the debate over simplify things. One challenge with the current state of affairs is the bennefits flow mostly to the higher earners. Take the income inequality for instance in Casa de Orina Amarilla. Yo soy muy pobre...so I have to mow my own lawn, pero mi esposa gets to hire a house cleaner. Life’s not fair sometimes.

Do you like apples?

Double the current price?

Triple?

Moar?

How 'bout them apples?

YellowSnow

creepycoug said:

YellowSnow said:

creepycoug said:

salemcoog said:

creepycoug said:

salemcoog said:

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

YellowSnow said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

YellowSnow said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

UW_Doog_Bot said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

Doogles said:

Bleeding heart progressives should be demanding a quarantine of all Nations that utilize child slave labor in the global economy.

I spend 200 bucks on sneakers that cost 5 bucks to make. Surely there is some wiggle room here.

Jfc. @UW_Doog_Bot clean up on aisle 1.

I apologize since you’ve already addressed this once today. You are very good at explaining markets and micro economics.

In summation:

The Right: Free markets work best! Except internationally, we need to control international markets.

The Left: Free markets work best! Except domestically, we need to control domestic markets.

Doog_Bot: *sigh*

I'd Pinochet the lot of you if I didn't believe in the universality of human rights.

Also in summation, using government to control markets (through taxes, tariffs, and regulations) is futile and self-defeating in both international and domestic markets.

No matter how sanctimonious or self-righteous you are, you are not changing the laws of nature.

CD, I think we've got to quit over simplifying the free trade debate discussion. China is a much different animal when it comes our national interests, than, say opening up our markets to Japan or Germany which are both liberal democracies and close allies. Did you know that back in the 1980's when the domestic automakers were getting hammered by Japanese imports, we were able to reach an agreement with Japan where Toyota, HondoFS, etc started opening up plants in the US? They were a close ally and willing to work with us to save some jerbs in America. Hell, my wife's MDX is made by a bunch of cousin fuckers down in Bammer. China doesn't want to be cooperative because they are a mercantilist, dictatorship bent on displacing the US the the sole superpower.

So let’s pay more for consumer goods, destroy markets and undermine the 60 year old trade liberation infrastructure while trump sorts out a “deal” with “enforcement”?

Now hold on a second...

China entered the WTO in 2001. Average GDP growth per year in the US was way higher in the period 1945- 2001 than it's been sense. We had plenty of free trade with other global trading partners prior to 2001. It ain't FREE TRADE if the other side ain't FREE. I love buying shit from Japan, Mexico, Germany, Vietnam, etc. Fuck China.

So based on current and historical data, we don’t need a trade agreement with China, tariffs and trade wars are fucking stupid and free people in free markets will always win? That’s what I’ve been saying. Fuck China. The US with California has and will always win without this trumptardian protectionism, isolationism, and ridiculous “trade deal.”

I love how this dipshit thinks intellectual property theft is part of a "free market."

Just as He believes hiring no skilled fence jumpers for .30 on the dollar is free market as well.

That is free market. The opposite of that is China.

In the Wild West era, sure.gif.

No, not Wild West Cuog! The free migration of labor and capital is the baseline. I assume they teach economis at Cuog. Every single impediment is an inefficiency. Some of those are warranted, some are not. People and governments have different views of them for varying reasons. But labor and capital finding one another in the market with no impediments is the baseline.

As for our situation, I have yet to hear a cogent argument, in the Tug or elsewhere, about the evils of letting in cheap labor other than exaggerated / made-up stories of legions of Mexicans getting free bennies from the Fed that are denied to our veterans.

Bullshit or not, that's not an economic argument in any event. On that front, all I see are posts with conclusory statements about the depressing effects on wages for low-skilled domestic workers (no shit?) made by fellow Tugmen whose homes are full of cheap shit imported from Mexico and China. Apparently the domestic manufacturer isn't on their minds. So, I'm not persuaded.

It’s a complicated issue senor and both extremes of the debate over simplify things. One challenge with the current state of affairs is the bennefits flow mostly to the higher earners. Take the income inequality for instance in Casa de Orina Amarilla. Yo soy muy pobre...so I have to mow my own lawn, pero mi esposa gets to hire a house cleaner. Life’s not fair sometimes.

Do you like apples?

Double the current price?

Triple?

Moar?

How 'bout them apples?

Galas are my favorite. I’m not talking about kicking out all the Apple pickers.

Sledog

2001400ex said:

Sledog said:

MikeDamone said:

Hey, did you guys know a tariff is a tax that will be passed on to the consumer?” - Benny.

Higher taxes are passed on to the consumer? Who'd of thought!

Just like prices dropped when the corporate tax rate was dropped. As predicted. MAGA.

More people they got a tax break for expansion/new equipment and more people are working. More people have money to buy shit. More taxes get collected. HTH

creepycoug

YellowSnow said:

creepycoug said:

YellowSnow said:

creepycoug said:

salemcoog said:

creepycoug said:

salemcoog said:

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

YellowSnow said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

YellowSnow said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

UW_Doog_Bot said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

Doogles said:

Bleeding heart progressives should be demanding a quarantine of all Nations that utilize child slave labor in the global economy.

I spend 200 bucks on sneakers that cost 5 bucks to make. Surely there is some wiggle room here.

Jfc. @UW_Doog_Bot clean up on aisle 1.

I apologize since you’ve already addressed this once today. You are very good at explaining markets and micro economics.

In summation:

The Right: Free markets work best! Except internationally, we need to control international markets.

The Left: Free markets work best! Except domestically, we need to control domestic markets.

Doog_Bot: *sigh*

I'd Pinochet the lot of you if I didn't believe in the universality of human rights.

Also in summation, using government to control markets (through taxes, tariffs, and regulations) is futile and self-defeating in both international and domestic markets.

No matter how sanctimonious or self-righteous you are, you are not changing the laws of nature.

CD, I think we've got to quit over simplifying the free trade debate discussion. China is a much different animal when it comes our national interests, than, say opening up our markets to Japan or Germany which are both liberal democracies and close allies. Did you know that back in the 1980's when the domestic automakers were getting hammered by Japanese imports, we were able to reach an agreement with Japan where Toyota, HondoFS, etc started opening up plants in the US? They were a close ally and willing to work with us to save some jerbs in America. Hell, my wife's MDX is made by a bunch of cousin fuckers down in Bammer. China doesn't want to be cooperative because they are a mercantilist, dictatorship bent on displacing the US the the sole superpower.

So let’s pay more for consumer goods, destroy markets and undermine the 60 year old trade liberation infrastructure while trump sorts out a “deal” with “enforcement”?

Now hold on a second...

China entered the WTO in 2001. Average GDP growth per year in the US was way higher in the period 1945- 2001 than it's been sense. We had plenty of free trade with other global trading partners prior to 2001. It ain't FREE TRADE if the other side ain't FREE. I love buying shit from Japan, Mexico, Germany, Vietnam, etc. Fuck China.

So based on current and historical data, we don’t need a trade agreement with China, tariffs and trade wars are fucking stupid and free people in free markets will always win? That’s what I’ve been saying. Fuck China. The US with California has and will always win without this trumptardian protectionism, isolationism, and ridiculous “trade deal.”

I love how this dipshit thinks intellectual property theft is part of a "free market."

Just as He believes hiring no skilled fence jumpers for .30 on the dollar is free market as well.

That is free market. The opposite of that is China.

In the Wild West era, sure.gif.

No, not Wild West Cuog! The free migration of labor and capital is the baseline. I assume they teach economis at Cuog. Every single impediment is an inefficiency. Some of those are warranted, some are not. People and governments have different views of them for varying reasons. But labor and capital finding one another in the market with no impediments is the baseline.

As for our situation, I have yet to hear a cogent argument, in the Tug or elsewhere, about the evils of letting in cheap labor other than exaggerated / made-up stories of legions of Mexicans getting free bennies from the Fed that are denied to our veterans.

Bullshit or not, that's not an economic argument in any event. On that front, all I see are posts with conclusory statements about the depressing effects on wages for low-skilled domestic workers (no shit?) made by fellow Tugmen whose homes are full of cheap shit imported from Mexico and China. Apparently the domestic manufacturer isn't on their minds. So, I'm not persuaded.

It’s a complicated issue senor and both extremes of the debate over simplify things. One challenge with the current state of affairs is the bennefits flow mostly to the higher earners. Take the income inequality for instance in Casa de Orina Amarilla. Yo soy muy pobre...so I have to mow my own lawn, pero mi esposa gets to hire a house cleaner. Life’s not fair sometimes.

Do you like apples?

Double the current price?

Triple?

Moar?

How 'bout them apples?

Galas are my favorite. I’m not talking about kicking out all the Apple pickers.

Aka, the Fruit Picker Visa.

pawz

YellowSnow said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

UW_Doog_Bot said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

Doogles said:

Bleeding heart progressives should be demanding a quarantine of all Nations that utilize child slave labor in the global economy.

I spend 200 bucks on sneakers that cost 5 bucks to make. Surely there is some wiggle room here.

Jfc. @UW_Doog_Bot clean up on aisle 1.

I apologize since you’ve already addressed this once today. You are very good at explaining markets and micro economics.

In summation:

The Right: Free markets work best! Except internationally, we need to control international markets.

The Left: Free markets work best! Except domestically, we need to control domestic markets.

Doog_Bot: *sigh*

I'd Pinochet the lot of you if I didn't believe in the universality of human rights.

Also in summation, using government to control markets (through taxes, tariffs, and regulations) is futile and self-defeating in both international and domestic markets.

No matter how sanctimonious or self-righteous you are, you are not changing the laws of nature.

CD, I think we've got to quit over simplifying the free trade debate discussion. China is a much different animal when it comes our national interests, than, say opening up our markets to Japan or Germany which are both liberal democracies and close allies. Did you know that back in the 1980's when the domestic automakers were getting hammered by Japanese imports, we were able to reach an agreement with Japan where Toyota, HondoFS, etc started opening up plants in the US? They were a close ally and willing to work with us to save some jerbs in America. Hell, my wife's MDX is made by a bunch of cousin fuckers down in Bammer. China doesn't want to be cooperative because they are a mercantilist, dictatorship bent on displacing the US the the sole superpower.

Two thoughts respectively:

a) the product of #winning

b) I don't recall my source, but I've never forgot ... in the course of human history, every time a super power has attempted to overtake another super power, it's talked in a bit fucking war

the liberal methodology of shaming people into a particular behavior pattern isn't going to work here

YellowSnow

pawz said:

YellowSnow said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

UW_Doog_Bot said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

Doogles said:

Bleeding heart progressives should be demanding a quarantine of all Nations that utilize child slave labor in the global economy.

I spend 200 bucks on sneakers that cost 5 bucks to make. Surely there is some wiggle room here.

Jfc. @UW_Doog_Bot clean up on aisle 1.

I apologize since you’ve already addressed this once today. You are very good at explaining markets and micro economics.

In summation:

The Right: Free markets work best! Except internationally, we need to control international markets.

The Left: Free markets work best! Except domestically, we need to control domestic markets.

Doog_Bot: *sigh*

I'd Pinochet the lot of you if I didn't believe in the universality of human rights.

Also in summation, using government to control markets (through taxes, tariffs, and regulations) is futile and self-defeating in both international and domestic markets.

No matter how sanctimonious or self-righteous you are, you are not changing the laws of nature.

CD, I think we've got to quit over simplifying the free trade debate discussion. China is a much different animal when it comes our national interests, than, say opening up our markets to Japan or Germany which are both liberal democracies and close allies. Did you know that back in the 1980's when the domestic automakers were getting hammered by Japanese imports, we were able to reach an agreement with Japan where Toyota, HondoFS, etc started opening up plants in the US? They were a close ally and willing to work with us to save some jerbs in America. Hell, my wife's MDX is made by a bunch of cousin fuckers down in Bammer. China doesn't want to be cooperative because they are a mercantilist, dictatorship bent on displacing the US the the sole superpower.

Two thoughts respectively:

a) the product of #winning

b) I don't recall my source, but I've never forgot ... in the course of human history, every time a super power has attempted to overtake another super power, it's talked in a bit fucking war

the liberal methodology of shaming people into a particular behavior pattern isn't going to work here

But in the nuclear age can 2 super powers ever get into a full blown war? We got close once but for the most part the bomb is a pretty strong deterrent.

MikeDamone

YellowSnow said:

pawz said:

YellowSnow said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

UW_Doog_Bot said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

Doogles said:

Bleeding heart progressives should be demanding a quarantine of all Nations that utilize child slave labor in the global economy.

I spend 200 bucks on sneakers that cost 5 bucks to make. Surely there is some wiggle room here.

Jfc. @UW_Doog_Bot clean up on aisle 1.

I apologize since you’ve already addressed this once today. You are very good at explaining markets and micro economics.

In summation:

The Right: Free markets work best! Except internationally, we need to control international markets.

The Left: Free markets work best! Except domestically, we need to control domestic markets.

Doog_Bot: *sigh*

I'd Pinochet the lot of you if I didn't believe in the universality of human rights.

Also in summation, using government to control markets (through taxes, tariffs, and regulations) is futile and self-defeating in both international and domestic markets.

No matter how sanctimonious or self-righteous you are, you are not changing the laws of nature.

CD, I think we've got to quit over simplifying the free trade debate discussion. China is a much different animal when it comes our national interests, than, say opening up our markets to Japan or Germany which are both liberal democracies and close allies. Did you know that back in the 1980's when the domestic automakers were getting hammered by Japanese imports, we were able to reach an agreement with Japan where Toyota, HondoFS, etc started opening up plants in the US? They were a close ally and willing to work with us to save some jerbs in America. Hell, my wife's MDX is made by a bunch of cousin fuckers down in Bammer. China doesn't want to be cooperative because they are a mercantilist, dictatorship bent on displacing the US the the sole superpower.

Two thoughts respectively:

a) the product of #winning

b) I don't recall my source, but I've never forgot ... in the course of human history, every time a super power has attempted to overtake another super power, it's talked in a bit fucking war

the liberal methodology of shaming people into a particular behavior pattern isn't going to work here

But in the nuclear age can 2 super powers ever get into a full blown war? We got close once but for the most part the bomb is a pretty strong deterrent.

When two tribes go to war one is all that you can score.