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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 0
    edited January 2014

    Holy fuck...China and India are building something like 4 new coal power plants a week and CollegeDoog is singing their praises on "climate change"? WTF? Can you be any more of a lapdog for Liberal BS?

    Yes I'm "singing their praises". No it was more of an indictment on the US, fuckstick. Great defeatist attitude as always

    BTW...I love how his first post is that 1) everything is changing rapidly and is super fragile, yet 3) don't anyone else use ancillary data to make any broad statements.

    I've gone into detail scores of times on here already and any climate change argument gets lost on those here who regurgitate the same misleading climate denial points over and over

    And no, this decade it has not gotten hotter. And yes, for the last 100+ years there has been a trend of it getting steadily hotter (really since the little ice age several hundred years ago)...but if you look at relating that to CO2 levels it falls apart since they those haven't been movings significnatly higher until recently. But we already know math/statistics is one of the many things not in his"wheelhouse"...

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    2012 was the hottest year on record for the continental US.

    2013 was the hottest year on record for Australia

    Sea ice extent hit an all time low in 2012

    We went over 400 carbon parts per million in 2013.

    The last 15 years have the 10 warmest yearly average temps ever recorded.

    Last November was the warmest November on record.

    It got hotter this decade and will only continue to get hotter. FO, HH

  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,000
    edited January 2014
    Like I said...US CO2 emissions are decreasing because cheap natural gas is resulting in a switch from coal to NG while China is building 3 coal plants a week and CommieDoog is singing China's praises and criticizing the US? Dumbfuck...he can credit Obama though for a chunk of it in keeping the economy shitty for 5 years and counting.

    Gee...the earth is coming out a little ice age (ie temps increasing steadily over last 200 years with only the last ~60 years giving reliable data) and you are amazed the highest values are at the end of the line? Are all college students really this dumb? And I like how you again pick and chose data to try and prove your point while telling everyone else they shouldn't. Last Nov was the hottest on record? This Jan set some of the coldest temps on record...we must be going into an ice age now. Global sea ice has been increasing the last 3 years...must be a crisis. Temps have been going down the last 10-15 years (a simple fact you keep ignoring)...must be a coming ice age using your analytical skills.

    BTW...no, it did not get hotter this decade. It hasn't gotten hotter since about 1997...actually been trending slightly downward. That's why all the climate models have shown to be so shitty. I guess they are still good enough to convince the ignorant though...
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 0
    edited January 2014

    Like I said...US CO2 emissions are decreasing because cheap natural gas is resulting in a switch from coal to NG while China is building 3 coal plants a week and CommieDoog is singing China's praises and criticizing the US? Dumbfuck...he can credit Obama though for a chunk of it in keeping the economy shitty for 5 years and counting.

    Gee...the earth is coming out a little ice age (ie temps increasing steadily over last 200 years with only the last ~60 years giving reliable data) and you are amazed the highest values are at the end of the line? Are all college students really this dumb? And I like how you again pick and chose data to try and prove your point while telling everyone else they shouldn't. Last Nov was the hottest on record? This Jan set some of the coldest temps on record...we must be going into an ice age now. Global sea ice has been increasing the last 3 years...must be a crisis. Temps have been going down the last 10-15 years (a simple fact you keep ignoring)...must be a coming ice age using your analytical skills.

    BTW...no, it did not get hotter this decade. It hasn't gotten hotter since about 1997...actually been trending slightly downward. That's why all the climate models have shown to be so shitty. I guess they are still good enough to convince the ignorant though...

    Every time you post you step in shit. It's getting embarrassing.

    You are so factually wrong it's amazing that you continue to spew bullshit like temps have been going down the last 10-15 years.

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    So it spiked in 1998 due to natural variability. So what? The 2000's were still much hotter than 90's. It's possible for temps to "level" for a short time because of El Niño but they certainly aren't going down like you claim. The explanation is fairly simple: the deep oceans have absorbed a high amount of heat that somewhat slowed the acceleration of global warming. We got lucky but it's only temporary and scientists expect 1 or 2 of these per century.

    You're the one with the piss poor analytical skills. It's clear you have a conservative bias or a reason to hate climate science. From Houston? Guessing you work for an oil company. Pull your head out of your ass.

    Using the "little ice age" temps increasing steadily argument is so fucking unsound I'm laughing that you trotted it out to get shit on. Temps were pretty fucking steady or increasing very slowly until we started putting fossil fuels into the air.

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    The spike isn't anything natural and doesn't follow the trend of the last 100, 200, 500, 1,000, or as far as you want to go back in the holocene.

    Again, piss poor analytical skills. Or just biased. Maybe it's abundance. Either way it's embarrassing.

  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,000
    edited January 2014
    So in high school for you it was your dog ate your homework...now its your el Nino ate your global warming (for the last 17 years...)

    Even the idiot in charge of the IPCC panel said temperatures haven't warmed in 17 years (link)...so I guess that makes anyone claiming they have a bigger idiot than him. That's pretty hard to do...congrats...

    Fun with pictures...
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    Thing is, none of the climate models as built said global temps should have paused or gone down with the amount of CO2 increase during that time...instead temps should have shot up. They were wrong...you are just keeping the wrongness going.

    Here...I'll try and type it simply for you. CO2 Levels from 1965 to 1997 went from ~315 ppm to ~360ppm...an increase in ~45 ppm. According to your graph up there temps increased something like 0.6 C. Must be due to CO2 levels, right? From 1997 to present CO2 levels have gone from 360 to 400ppm...and increase of ~40 ppm. Temperatures at best gone flat if not decreased 0.1 C or so. So much for the CO2 correlation, the scientific method, or pretty much any amount of logic or basic science when we are dealing with a religion. When the climate model guys built their models they said this was behavior for even 10 years was impossible...reality 17 years later would point to them (and you) being wrong. But who needs reality with you, right?

    And no, I don't work for an oil firm, and yes, keep attacking me since you can't seem to touch any of the information I keep bringing up. And keep pimping China's climate actions as they keep building ~3 coal power plants a week while the US keeps dropping its CO2 output (like it matters...)...you know...your original idiocy that started this thread.

  • Fucking stupid, again. Using the 1998 abnormal high as a basis for the succeeding temperatures, even though those were roughly .2 C higher on average through 2013.

    It's getting embarrassing for you. Might want to stop.

  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,000
    edited January 2014
    I'm using 1997...you know...a year before...1998. You can use any of those years though if it makes you feel better. It doesn't change the trend.

    And keep ignoring any and all discussions on the CO2 levels, climate models, and such that contradict everything you say.

    You really aren't good at this...
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    CollegeDoog has reached monumental levels of pressing on the General bored. Fuck even IMALOSER made better arguments and didn't move the goal posts nearly as much.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,030 Founders Club
    CollegDoog is true to his faith. Science has nothing to do with it. It's just the latest Blame America crowd fooling the foolish youth. When he defended China he should have lit himself on fire. It was the proof of what he was mocking me for on one of these threads - that global cooling warming changing is simply anti capitalism in another package for the useful idiots to cling to. Bitter clingers if you will

    He's moved so many goalposts that he's now completely lost. He veers between imminent danger of planet death to hey we don't have a solution but someday we might so buy some fucked up lightbulbs and hybrid cars that have hazardous waste batteries that cost more in carbon to make than they save in use.

    But you'll feel better. Hallelujah. Everyone is stupid who doesn't agree with his fucked up "arguments" that change every time he gets his ass kicked
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    Fuck. Even Damone and I called it quits on the single parent posts at some point.
  • unfrozencaveman
    unfrozencaveman Member Posts: 2,303
    Here's a nice looking chart - for example, apples are 100% (2:1 ratio) to oranges.

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    If anyone needs any Excel tips, feel free to PM
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 0
    edited January 2014

    I'm using 1997...you know...a year before...1998. You can use any of those years though if it makes you feel better. It doesn't change the trend.

    And keep ignoring any and all discussions on the CO2 levels, climate models, and such that contradict everything you say.

    You really aren't good at this...

    Such scientific dishonesty is rare. "It doesn't change the trend"? Really fuck man do you know how to read a graph?

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    So 1997/98 was a spike which can be explained due to an El Nino occurrence that year. Your graph sets a flat trendline which is both wrong and dishonest because the values before were much lower. You can't start at '97/'98 because it was a fucking anomaly dingus. Also, that graph was wrong.

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    8 of the 10 warmest years on record came after 2000. It's possible they "leveled" for the time being. But that has been explained thru natural variability based on La Nina/El Nino. The temperature sure as hell hasn't been declining. I can't believe you even suggested that. Fuck man.

    What climate models are you talking about? The trendline has generally followed the models. There's obviously a variability year to year that affects what happens. Here's James Hansen's climate model prediction which seems to follow very closely to the actual observed temperatures.

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    You really aren't good at this. Every point you bring up is a cliched climate denial theory that comes from cherry picking facts, and can be debunked by looking at the bigger picture. You must be a small thinker.
  • CollegDoog is true to his faith. Science has nothing to do with it. It's just the latest Blame America crowd fooling the foolish youth. When he defended China he should have lit himself on fire. It was the proof of what he was mocking me for on one of these threads - that global cooling warming changing is simply anti capitalism in another package for the useful idiots to cling to. Bitter clingers if you will

    He's moved so many goalposts that he's now completely lost. He veers between imminent danger of planet death to hey we don't have a solution but someday we might so buy some fucked up lightbulbs and hybrid cars that have hazardous waste batteries that cost more in carbon to make than they save in use.

    But you'll feel better. Hallelujah. Everyone is stupid who doesn't agree with his fucked up "arguments" that change every time he gets his ass kicked

    LOL you've had your ass kicked so many times (Richard Lindzen) you fall back on the "scare the youth", "anti-capitalism", "it's a religion" ridiculousness.

    What goal posts have I moved? I have to argue with 5 people at a time in most threads and have to debunk a lot of stupidity.

    I've been consistent on a plan to ease off fossil fuels but you must keep glossing over that.

    I'll backtrack a little on China. Obviously they're not going to be the leader in curbing climate change, but they're also not a monstrosity that can't be reasoned with. They're slowing economic growth to cut emissions. They're pouring money into solar technology. They burn the shit out of coal and will continue to do so in the short term but they're not committed to it in the long term. And for fucks sake I haven't been praising them. That's an example of how you oversimplify my argument to fit your narrative, which has been both amusing and frustrating.
  • Fuck. Even Damone and I called it quits on the single parent posts at some point.

    I ain't the one starting the threads.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

    CollegDoog is true to his faith. Science has nothing to do with it. It's just the latest Blame America crowd fooling the foolish youth. When he defended China he should have lit himself on fire. It was the proof of what he was mocking me for on one of these threads - that global cooling warming changing is simply anti capitalism in another package for the useful idiots to cling to. Bitter clingers if you will

    He's moved so many goalposts that he's now completely lost. He veers between imminent danger of planet death to hey we don't have a solution but someday we might so buy some fucked up lightbulbs and hybrid cars that have hazardous waste batteries that cost more in carbon to make than they save in use.

    But you'll feel better. Hallelujah. Everyone is stupid who doesn't agree with his fucked up "arguments" that change every time he gets his ass kicked

    LOL you've had your ass kicked so many times (Richard Lindzen) you fall back on the "scare the youth", "anti-capitalism", "it's a religion" ridiculousness.

    What goal posts have I moved? I have to argue with 5 people at a time in most threads and have to debunk a lot of stupidity.

    I've been consistent on a plan to ease off fossil fuels but you must keep glossing over that.

    I'll backtrack a little on China. Obviously they're not going to be the leader in curbing climate change, but they're also not a monstrosity that can't be reasoned with. They're slowing economic growth to cut emissions. They're pouring money into solar technology. They burn the shit out of coal and will continue to do so in the short term but they're not committed to it in the long term. And for fucks sake I haven't been praising them. That's an example of how you oversimplify my argument to fit your narrative, which has been both amusing and frustrating.
    Sorry dude, but China is exactly that. Not a monstrosity, but as long as there is profit to be made by exploiting their people, they won't change for anyone, and no one will be able to force them to. Their advances in technology might eventually help your cause in the form of solar panels, but they're doing it strictly for the cash. And they're too fucking slow. It's been years since I read about them developing a technology where an individual can print solar cells on a computer. As of yet, I haven't seen any in the local Office Depot.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,030 Founders Club
    CollegDoog is true to his faith. Science has nothing to do with it. It's just the latest Blame America crowd fooling the follish yout

    CollegDoog is true to his faith. Science has nothing to do with it. It's just the latest Blame America crowd fooling the foolish youth. When he defended China he should have lit himself on fire. It was the proof of what he was mocking me for on one of these threads - that global cooling warming changing is simply anti capitalism in another package for the useful idiots to cling to. Bitter clingers if you will

    He's moved so many goalposts that he's now completely lost. He veers between imminent danger of planet death to hey we don't have a solution but someday we might so buy some fucked up lightbulbs and hybrid cars that have hazardous waste batteries that cost more in carbon to make than they save in use.

    But you'll feel better. Hallelujah. Everyone is stupid who doesn't agree with his fucked up "arguments" that change every time he gets his ass kicked

    LOL you've had your ass kicked so many times (Richard Lindzen) you fall back on the "scare the youth", "anti-capitalism", "it's a religion" ridiculousness.

    What goal posts have I moved? I have to argue with 5 people at a time in most threads and have to debunk a lot of stupidity.

    I've been consistent on a plan to ease off fossil fuels but you must keep glossing over that.

    I'll backtrack a little on China. Obviously they're not going to be the leader in curbing climate change, but they're also not a monstrosity that can't be reasoned with. They're slowing economic growth to cut emissions. They're pouring money into solar technology. They burn the shit out of coal and will continue to do so in the short term but they're not committed to it in the long term. And for fucks sake I haven't been praising them. That's an example of how you oversimplify my argument to fit your narrative, which has been both amusing and frustrating.
    #Fail
  • CollegDoog is true to his faith. Science has nothing to do with it. It's just the latest Blame America crowd fooling the follish yout

    CollegDoog is true to his faith. Science has nothing to do with it. It's just the latest Blame America crowd fooling the foolish youth. When he defended China he should have lit himself on fire. It was the proof of what he was mocking me for on one of these threads - that global cooling warming changing is simply anti capitalism in another package for the useful idiots to cling to. Bitter clingers if you will

    He's moved so many goalposts that he's now completely lost. He veers between imminent danger of planet death to hey we don't have a solution but someday we might so buy some fucked up lightbulbs and hybrid cars that have hazardous waste batteries that cost more in carbon to make than they save in use.

    But you'll feel better. Hallelujah. Everyone is stupid who doesn't agree with his fucked up "arguments" that change every time he gets his ass kicked

    LOL you've had your ass kicked so many times (Richard Lindzen) you fall back on the "scare the youth", "anti-capitalism", "it's a religion" ridiculousness.

    What goal posts have I moved? I have to argue with 5 people at a time in most threads and have to debunk a lot of stupidity.

    I've been consistent on a plan to ease off fossil fuels but you must keep glossing over that.

    I'll backtrack a little on China. Obviously they're not going to be the leader in curbing climate change, but they're also not a monstrosity that can't be reasoned with. They're slowing economic growth to cut emissions. They're pouring money into solar technology. They burn the shit out of coal and will continue to do so in the short term but they're not committed to it in the long term. And for fucks sake I haven't been praising them. That's an example of how you oversimplify my argument to fit your narrative, which has been both amusing and frustrating.
    #Fail
    "lol"

    That's all you got left.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,030 Founders Club

    CollegDoog is true to his faith. Science has nothing to do with it. It's just the latest Blame America crowd fooling the follish yout

    CollegDoog is true to his faith. Science has nothing to do with it. It's just the latest Blame America crowd fooling the foolish youth. When he defended China he should have lit himself on fire. It was the proof of what he was mocking me for on one of these threads - that global cooling warming changing is simply anti capitalism in another package for the useful idiots to cling to. Bitter clingers if you will

    He's moved so many goalposts that he's now completely lost. He veers between imminent danger of planet death to hey we don't have a solution but someday we might so buy some fucked up lightbulbs and hybrid cars that have hazardous waste batteries that cost more in carbon to make than they save in use.

    But you'll feel better. Hallelujah. Everyone is stupid who doesn't agree with his fucked up "arguments" that change every time he gets his ass kicked

    LOL you've had your ass kicked so many times (Richard Lindzen) you fall back on the "scare the youth", "anti-capitalism", "it's a religion" ridiculousness.

    What goal posts have I moved? I have to argue with 5 people at a time in most threads and have to debunk a lot of stupidity.

    I've been consistent on a plan to ease off fossil fuels but you must keep glossing over that.

    I'll backtrack a little on China. Obviously they're not going to be the leader in curbing climate change, but they're also not a monstrosity that can't be reasoned with. They're slowing economic growth to cut emissions. They're pouring money into solar technology. They burn the shit out of coal and will continue to do so in the short term but they're not committed to it in the long term. And for fucks sake I haven't been praising them. That's an example of how you oversimplify my argument to fit your narrative, which has been both amusing and frustrating.
    #Fail
    "lol"

    That's all you got left.
    And its more than you ever had
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    I find it funny how CollegeDoog claims everyone else has gotten their ass kicked in this thread yet he is the only fucktard preaching his liberal bullshit. This is just getting desperate, sad, and pathetic, he will do anything to push the agenda of the extreme left. Even Rachel Maddow at this point might start laughing at how far left he is going with his anti capitalism remarks.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    I find it funny how CollegeDoog claims everyone else has gotten their ass kicked in this thread yet he is the only fucktard preaching his liberal bullshit. This is just getting desperate, sad, and pathetic, he will do anything to push the agenda of the extreme left. Even Rachel Maddow at this point might start laughing at how far left he is going with his anti capitalism remarks.

    Not true. He voted for Mitt!
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 0
    edited January 2014

    I find it funny how CollegeDoog claims everyone else has gotten their ass kicked in this thread yet he is the only fucktard preaching his liberal bullshit. This is just getting desperate, sad, and pathetic, he will do anything to push the agenda of the extreme left. Even Rachel Maddow at this point might start laughing at how far left he is going with his anti capitalism remarks.

    Actually you only know my views on race and global warming.

    You don't know what I think about other issues related to the economy and why I would have voted for Mitt.

    You, Race, others just use the Rachel Maddow line/liberal bullshit to hide behind an ignorance and discredit my posts. Scare lines like an "anti capitalist agenda"? C'mon man.

    It must suck to see the world in left/right agendas.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    I find it funny how CollegeDoog claims everyone else has gotten their ass kicked in this thread yet he is the only fucktard preaching his liberal bullshit. This is just getting desperate, sad, and pathetic, he will do anything to push the agenda of the extreme left. Even Rachel Maddow at this point might start laughing at how far left he is going with his anti capitalism remarks.

    Actually you only know my views on race and global warming.

    You don't know what I think about other issues related to the economy and why I would have voted for Mitt.

    You, Race, others just use the Rachel Maddow line/liberal bullshit to hide behind an ignorance and discredit my posts. Scare lines like an "anti capitalist agenda"? C'mon man.

    It must suck to see the world in left/right agendas.
    Keep yapping. We've seen enough. You suck at economics more than anything else. That has been established by your posts. You see the world in left right agendas more than anyone here. The fact you don't think you do is sad.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,030 Founders Club
    We just ignorant people compared to that mental giant collegedoog. He smart
  • I find it funny how CollegeDoog claims everyone else has gotten their ass kicked in this thread yet he is the only fucktard preaching his liberal bullshit. This is just getting desperate, sad, and pathetic, he will do anything to push the agenda of the extreme left. Even Rachel Maddow at this point might start laughing at how far left he is going with his anti capitalism remarks.

    Actually you only know my views on race and global warming.

    You don't know what I think about other issues related to the economy and why I would have voted for Mitt.

    You, Race, others just use the Rachel Maddow line/liberal bullshit to hide behind an ignorance and discredit my posts. Scare lines like an "anti capitalist agenda"? C'mon man.

    It must suck to see the world in left/right agendas.
    Keep yapping. We've seen enough. You suck at economics more than anything else. That has been established by your posts. You see the world in left right agendas more than anyone here. The fact you don't think you do is sad.
    "lol"
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    We just ignorant people compared to that mental giant collegedoog. He smart

    You're just a 50 year old white guy.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    I find it funny how CollegeDoog claims everyone else has gotten their ass kicked in this thread yet he is the only fucktard preaching his liberal bullshit. This is just getting desperate, sad, and pathetic, he will do anything to push the agenda of the extreme left. Even Rachel Maddow at this point might start laughing at how far left he is going with his anti capitalism remarks.

    Actually you only know my views on race and global warming.

    You don't know what I think about other issues related to the economy and why I would have voted for Mitt.

    You, Race, others just use the Rachel Maddow line/liberal bullshit to hide behind an ignorance and discredit my posts. Scare lines like an "anti capitalist agenda"? C'mon man.

    It must suck to see the world in left/right agendas.
    Keep yapping. We've seen enough. You suck at economics more than anything else. That has been established by your posts. You see the world in left right agendas more than anyone here. The fact you don't think you do is sad.
    "lol"
    Christ. Epic pressing.
  • We just ignorant people compared to that mental giant collegedoog. He smart

    Because dismissing decades of scientific study due to an anti capitalist America blaming youth scare is smart, critical, thinking.

    Checkmate bitch.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,143
    edited January 2014
    The global warming, excuse me, climate change argument is getting painful. CollegeDoog, please tell me that you and your college buddies don't sit around talking about this shit. I think it's time to transfer from Middlebury. Do you game on chicks by going, "how bout them wood chips?"
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited January 2014

    The global warming, excuse me, climate change argument is getting painful. CollegeDoog, please tell me that you and your college buddies don't sit around talking about this shit. I think it's time to transfer from Middlebury.

    They talk about it over glasses of 2014 Boone's strawberry wine while planning which investment banks with polar opposite values to those they've temporarily adopted, they'll be working for after they get their liberal arts degrees.
  • The global warming, excuse me, climate change argument is getting painful. CollegeDoog, please tell me that you and your college buddies don't sit around talking about this shit. I think it's time to transfer from Middlebury.

    No we sit around and talk about feminist issues.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 0
    edited January 2014

    The global warming, excuse me, climate change argument is getting painful. CollegeDoog, please tell me that you and your college buddies don't sit around talking about this shit. I think it's time to transfer from Middlebury.

    Dumb phone...