Yang on Shapiro
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I'm not even remotely liberal, I just don't hate them all like some of the Tug denizens. I should amend that. I pretty much do hate them all now, but this is a very recent phenomena due to SJW and identity politics being the central pillar of current Democrat ideas.YellowSnow said:
I'm a liberal cool bro @Swaye compared to our ideologically pure right wingers at HH.Swaye said:I cannot understand what has happened to my lone liberal cool bro APAG. Ah well, things change and I can handle the ups and downs of AOC the bartenders cult of personality I suppose.
Point of order though - Ben Shapiro, whether he hates Jews or not, is not some small time guy. He is actually becoming a pretty big player in the ultra conservative uber intelligent great policy debater circles of the world. It is known Jon Snow.
Impressed Yang would do this - Shaprio routinely destroys everyone with his grasp of policy and keen intellect, so even going on there takes balls of steel and true belief. Of course I don't agree with most of his policies, but I automatically like him more than all the rest of the field because he is likeable, rational and has a strong command of the issues - unlike most of the retards the Dems have shit out to run this cycle. -
It’s not that he doesn’t like Ben Shapiro it’s that he’s exposing his fraudulent debating techniques.Swaye said:
Is this a joke?BearsWiin said:
https://static.currentaffairs.org/2017/12/the-cool-kids-philosopherSwaye said:
I'd pay anything to see AOC debate him on any topic of her choosing. The destruction would be legendary.BearsWiin said:
Imagine taking Benny Shapiro seriouslyHardlyClothed said:
Having surveyed Shapiro’s work, and pointed out the various ways in which he is not terribly logical, not terribly consistent, and not terribly well-informed (in addition to being not terribly humane), it is worth asking why so many people think of him as a “principled” and “brilliant” dismantler of arguments. The answer, it seems to me, is largely that Shapiro is a very confident person who speaks quickly. If he weren’t either of these things, he wouldn’t seem nearly as intelligent. Because he doesn’t care about whether he’s right, but about whether he destroys you, he uses a few effective lawyerly tricks: insist that there’s “no evidence whatsoever” something is true, demand the other side produce such evidence, and when they stammer “Buh-buh-buh” for two seconds, quickly interrupt with “See? What did I tell you? No evidence.” Or, just pluck some random numbers from a study, even if they’re totally false or misleading, e.g. “40% of transgender people commit suicide and the risk doesn’t go down if they are treated better,” which was nonsense but sounded good. Cross-examine people with aggressive questions that confuse them: Are you a moose? I said: are you a moose? No? I didn’t think so. I rest my case. Use shifting burdens of proof: demand a wealth of statistical evidence before you will admit that black people face any unique hardships, but respond to every criticism of the Israeli government by calling the speaker a “proven” and “undeniable” anti-Semite. Disregard all facts that contradict your case, but insist constantly that the other side despises facts and can’t handle the truth. Call your opponents “nasty,” “evil,” “brainless” “jackasses.” All of these techniques work very well, and with them, you, too, can soon be Owning and Destroying your political opponents on camera. (I would probably lose a debate with Ben Shapiro quite badly, as my instinct in public conversations is to try to listen to people.)
He's an aggressive fast-talking bullshit artist
Current Affairs is an American bimonthly magazine that discusses political and cultural topics from a left-wing political standpoint.[1] It is published in print and online, and supplemented by a podcast.[2][3] Nathan J. Robinson, a PhD student in sociology and social policy at Harvard University, founded the magazine in 2015 and is its editor-in-chief.[4][5]
Look I can link stuff as well. His most recent Youtube interview is Noam Chomsky. So you are telling me a fiercely liberal guy doesn't like Ben Shapiro?????? Holy fuck call the NYT! This has legs.
Liberals all hate Shapiro because he destroys them all in debates. The end.
But in any case nobody really cares about debates because no one goes in willing to change their initial views. -
Anyway, back to Yang...good on him for sharing his thoughts. I think UBI is a joke, but I appreciate his sincerity.
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I don't follow Shapiro, I don't look to him for a diet of information. He is has put himself in positions of debate and people have gravitated to his positions. Yes, a downside of a chronic debater is only looking for the win. Shapiro has certainly put his time into learning to come up with his positions. You certainly have the choice not to listen to him. Though, you can't argue that he hasn't been successful and that he has some valid debates.BearsWiin said:
There are many successful snake-oil salesmen out there. He is one of them. A former follower of his summed him up pretty well: he's more interested in winning an argument than he is in actually being rightjecornel said:
Whatever your thoughts are about Shapiro, he paying for his wife's medical school free and clear (12 years of school) clearly succeeded financially and a listening base larger than anyone here.BearsWiin said:
Imagine taking Benny Shapiro seriouslyHardlyClothed said:
So many people hate others success. Whether you take him seriously or not he has been able to navigate himself from a public perspective with influence.
I think Yang did a great job defusing much of his talking points. Yang was totally unphased in the conversation. -
On this you and I agree. So much so I threw you an upvote. That is the biggest issue out there now - total intellectual inflexibility (on both sides) and stupid bullshit litmus test politics. The Dem debates will be a complete echo chamber of FREE SHIT, and the next round of GOP debates will be a complete echo chamber of TAX CUTS...and everyone basically says the same thing, whatever party orthodoxy is, and all dissenters are roasted at the stake, and nobody can ever agree with anything the other side says. That's modern politics in the 24X7 news cycle land of Murica!HardlyClothed said:
It’s not that he doesn’t like Ben Shapiro it’s that he’s exposing his fraudulent debating techniques.Swaye said:
Is this a joke?BearsWiin said:
https://static.currentaffairs.org/2017/12/the-cool-kids-philosopherSwaye said:
I'd pay anything to see AOC debate him on any topic of her choosing. The destruction would be legendary.BearsWiin said:
Imagine taking Benny Shapiro seriouslyHardlyClothed said:
Having surveyed Shapiro’s work, and pointed out the various ways in which he is not terribly logical, not terribly consistent, and not terribly well-informed (in addition to being not terribly humane), it is worth asking why so many people think of him as a “principled” and “brilliant” dismantler of arguments. The answer, it seems to me, is largely that Shapiro is a very confident person who speaks quickly. If he weren’t either of these things, he wouldn’t seem nearly as intelligent. Because he doesn’t care about whether he’s right, but about whether he destroys you, he uses a few effective lawyerly tricks: insist that there’s “no evidence whatsoever” something is true, demand the other side produce such evidence, and when they stammer “Buh-buh-buh” for two seconds, quickly interrupt with “See? What did I tell you? No evidence.” Or, just pluck some random numbers from a study, even if they’re totally false or misleading, e.g. “40% of transgender people commit suicide and the risk doesn’t go down if they are treated better,” which was nonsense but sounded good. Cross-examine people with aggressive questions that confuse them: Are you a moose? I said: are you a moose? No? I didn’t think so. I rest my case. Use shifting burdens of proof: demand a wealth of statistical evidence before you will admit that black people face any unique hardships, but respond to every criticism of the Israeli government by calling the speaker a “proven” and “undeniable” anti-Semite. Disregard all facts that contradict your case, but insist constantly that the other side despises facts and can’t handle the truth. Call your opponents “nasty,” “evil,” “brainless” “jackasses.” All of these techniques work very well, and with them, you, too, can soon be Owning and Destroying your political opponents on camera. (I would probably lose a debate with Ben Shapiro quite badly, as my instinct in public conversations is to try to listen to people.)
He's an aggressive fast-talking bullshit artist
Current Affairs is an American bimonthly magazine that discusses political and cultural topics from a left-wing political standpoint.[1] It is published in print and online, and supplemented by a podcast.[2][3] Nathan J. Robinson, a PhD student in sociology and social policy at Harvard University, founded the magazine in 2015 and is its editor-in-chief.[4][5]
Look I can link stuff as well. His most recent Youtube interview is Noam Chomsky. So you are telling me a fiercely liberal guy doesn't like Ben Shapiro?????? Holy fuck call the NYT! This has legs.
Liberals all hate Shapiro because he destroys them all in debates. The end.
But in any case nobody really cares about debates because no one goes in willing to change their initial views.
Burn it all down. Start over. -
The left hates debates because current doctrine is a collapsing house of cards
HTH -
You said that better than I would have. Shapiro usually has them looking in over their head within 5 minutes. Yang is a cool cucumber who has obviously THOUGHT THROUGH his positions and applied some intellectual rigor to them. I can appreciate that. It's the opposite of AOC.jecornel said:
I don't follow Shapiro, I don't look to him for a diet of information. He is has put himself in positions of debate and people have gravitated to his positions. Yes, a downside of a chronic debater is only looking for the win. Shapiro has certainly put his time into learning to come up with his positions. You certainly have the choice not to listen to him. Though, you can't argue that he hasn't been successful and that he has some valid debates.BearsWiin said:
There are many successful snake-oil salesmen out there. He is one of them. A former follower of his summed him up pretty well: he's more interested in winning an argument than he is in actually being rightjecornel said:
Whatever your thoughts are about Shapiro, he paying for his wife's medical school free and clear (12 years of school) clearly succeeded financially and a listening base larger than anyone here.BearsWiin said:
Imagine taking Benny Shapiro seriouslyHardlyClothed said:
So many people hate others success. Whether you take him seriously or not he has been able to navigate himself from a public perspective with influence.
I think Yang did a great job defusing much of his talking points. Yang was totally unphased in the conversation. -
This is a correct statement. There will also be the talking point from the left that they will be able to unite the nation. Though, if they lead with Bernie and AOC ideas there is zero chance of unification. Congress will also have to be willing to work with whoever is President. Congress is a total shit show.Swaye said:
On this you and I agree. So much so I threw you an upvote. That is the biggest issue out there now - total intellectual inflexibility (on both sides) and stupid bullshit litmus test politics. The Dem debates will be a complete echo chamber of FREE SHIT, and the next round of GOP debates will be a complete echo chamber of TAX CUTS...and everyone basically says the same thing, whatever party orthodoxy is, and all dissenters are roasted at the stake, and nobody can ever agree with anything the other side says. That's modern politics in the 24X7 news cycle land of Murica!HardlyClothed said:
It’s not that he doesn’t like Ben Shapiro it’s that he’s exposing his fraudulent debating techniques.Swaye said:
Is this a joke?BearsWiin said:
https://static.currentaffairs.org/2017/12/the-cool-kids-philosopherSwaye said:
I'd pay anything to see AOC debate him on any topic of her choosing. The destruction would be legendary.BearsWiin said:
Imagine taking Benny Shapiro seriouslyHardlyClothed said:
Having surveyed Shapiro’s work, and pointed out the various ways in which he is not terribly logical, not terribly consistent, and not terribly well-informed (in addition to being not terribly humane), it is worth asking why so many people think of him as a “principled” and “brilliant” dismantler of arguments. The answer, it seems to me, is largely that Shapiro is a very confident person who speaks quickly. If he weren’t either of these things, he wouldn’t seem nearly as intelligent. Because he doesn’t care about whether he’s right, but about whether he destroys you, he uses a few effective lawyerly tricks: insist that there’s “no evidence whatsoever” something is true, demand the other side produce such evidence, and when they stammer “Buh-buh-buh” for two seconds, quickly interrupt with “See? What did I tell you? No evidence.” Or, just pluck some random numbers from a study, even if they’re totally false or misleading, e.g. “40% of transgender people commit suicide and the risk doesn’t go down if they are treated better,” which was nonsense but sounded good. Cross-examine people with aggressive questions that confuse them: Are you a moose? I said: are you a moose? No? I didn’t think so. I rest my case. Use shifting burdens of proof: demand a wealth of statistical evidence before you will admit that black people face any unique hardships, but respond to every criticism of the Israeli government by calling the speaker a “proven” and “undeniable” anti-Semite. Disregard all facts that contradict your case, but insist constantly that the other side despises facts and can’t handle the truth. Call your opponents “nasty,” “evil,” “brainless” “jackasses.” All of these techniques work very well, and with them, you, too, can soon be Owning and Destroying your political opponents on camera. (I would probably lose a debate with Ben Shapiro quite badly, as my instinct in public conversations is to try to listen to people.)
He's an aggressive fast-talking bullshit artist
Current Affairs is an American bimonthly magazine that discusses political and cultural topics from a left-wing political standpoint.[1] It is published in print and online, and supplemented by a podcast.[2][3] Nathan J. Robinson, a PhD student in sociology and social policy at Harvard University, founded the magazine in 2015 and is its editor-in-chief.[4][5]
Look I can link stuff as well. His most recent Youtube interview is Noam Chomsky. So you are telling me a fiercely liberal guy doesn't like Ben Shapiro?????? Holy fuck call the NYT! This has legs.
Liberals all hate Shapiro because he destroys them all in debates. The end.
But in any case nobody really cares about debates because no one goes in willing to change their initial views.
Burn it all down. Start over. -
I wish I could say things like this instead of having to use 4 sentences to make the point in a more tortured way.RaceBannon said:The left hates debates because current doctrine is a collapsing house of cards
HTH -
Liberals hate debates because their policy is dumbfuckery.HardlyClothed said:
It’s funny to see the right just admit that debates aren’t for arguing policy and changing peoples opinions but for some kind of theatrical domination of the side they don’t like. It’s also why debates are dumb in the first place.Swaye said:
I'd pay anything to see AOC debate him on any topic of her choosing. The destruction would be legendary.BearsWiin said:
Imagine taking Benny Shapiro seriouslyHardlyClothed said: -
Lets see AOC go on the Shapiro show. Nah she likes her safe space on MSNBC.
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Yep. When Bernie and AOC are the figure heads of your party you have no shot.RaceBannon said:The left hates debates because current doctrine is a collapsing house of cards
HTH
It's okay to say capitalism is better than socialism. It's okay to reward small to medium business size as opposed to penalizing them. It's okay to say while our history is filled with horrid actions but reparations aren't the way to heal those wounds. It's okay to tell people welfare is not a way of life but temporary assistance. It's okay to say border security is a serious issue and needs to be addressed.
Instead, AOC uses hot button issues to rile the base which she condemns Donald of doing to his base. She is no different. She is a total clown.
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I'm not a fan of Current Affairs as a publication, and I recently elsewhere derided an article of theirs written by an unabashed Bernie bro who wanted to do a hit piece on Mayor Pete. But that article pegged Shapiro. If you read it, he doesn't hate him, but he was wondering why so many on the right take him seriously as an intellectual when nothing about him is actually intellectual. He's just an aggressive fast-talking provocateur with good debate skills. There's obviously a market for that in this environment, and it's cool that his followers can listen to his twaddle and buy energy drinks and prepper food all from the same websiteSwaye said:
Is this a joke?BearsWiin said:
https://static.currentaffairs.org/2017/12/the-cool-kids-philosopherSwaye said:
I'd pay anything to see AOC debate him on any topic of her choosing. The destruction would be legendary.BearsWiin said:
Imagine taking Benny Shapiro seriouslyHardlyClothed said:
Having surveyed Shapiro’s work, and pointed out the various ways in which he is not terribly logical, not terribly consistent, and not terribly well-informed (in addition to being not terribly humane), it is worth asking why so many people think of him as a “principled” and “brilliant” dismantler of arguments. The answer, it seems to me, is largely that Shapiro is a very confident person who speaks quickly. If he weren’t either of these things, he wouldn’t seem nearly as intelligent. Because he doesn’t care about whether he’s right, but about whether he destroys you, he uses a few effective lawyerly tricks: insist that there’s “no evidence whatsoever” something is true, demand the other side produce such evidence, and when they stammer “Buh-buh-buh” for two seconds, quickly interrupt with “See? What did I tell you? No evidence.” Or, just pluck some random numbers from a study, even if they’re totally false or misleading, e.g. “40% of transgender people commit suicide and the risk doesn’t go down if they are treated better,” which was nonsense but sounded good. Cross-examine people with aggressive questions that confuse them: Are you a moose? I said: are you a moose? No? I didn’t think so. I rest my case. Use shifting burdens of proof: demand a wealth of statistical evidence before you will admit that black people face any unique hardships, but respond to every criticism of the Israeli government by calling the speaker a “proven” and “undeniable” anti-Semite. Disregard all facts that contradict your case, but insist constantly that the other side despises facts and can’t handle the truth. Call your opponents “nasty,” “evil,” “brainless” “jackasses.” All of these techniques work very well, and with them, you, too, can soon be Owning and Destroying your political opponents on camera. (I would probably lose a debate with Ben Shapiro quite badly, as my instinct in public conversations is to try to listen to people.)
He's an aggressive fast-talking bullshit artist
Current Affairs is an American bimonthly magazine that discusses political and cultural topics from a left-wing political standpoint.[1] It is published in print and online, and supplemented by a podcast.[2][3] Nathan J. Robinson, a PhD student in sociology and social policy at Harvard University, founded the magazine in 2015 and is its editor-in-chief.[4][5]
Look I can link stuff as well. His most recent Youtube interview is Noam Chomsky. So you are telling me a fiercely liberal guy doesn't like Ben Shapiro?????? Holy fuck call the NYT! This has legs.
Liberals all hate Shapiro because he destroys them all in debates. The end. -
Good for him.BearsWiin said:
I'm not a fan of Current Affairs as a publication, and I recently elsewhere derided an article of theirs written by an unabashed Bernie bro who wanted to do a hit piece on Mayor Pete. But that article pegged Shapiro. If you read it, he doesn't hate him, but he was wondering why so many on the right take him seriously as an intellectual when nothing about him is actually intellectual. He's just an aggressive fast-talking provocateur with good debate skills. There's obviously a market for that in this environment, and it's cool that his followers can listen to his twaddle and buy energy drinks and prepper food all from the same websiteSwaye said:
Is this a joke?BearsWiin said:
https://static.currentaffairs.org/2017/12/the-cool-kids-philosopherSwaye said:
I'd pay anything to see AOC debate him on any topic of her choosing. The destruction would be legendary.BearsWiin said:
Imagine taking Benny Shapiro seriouslyHardlyClothed said:
Having surveyed Shapiro’s work, and pointed out the various ways in which he is not terribly logical, not terribly consistent, and not terribly well-informed (in addition to being not terribly humane), it is worth asking why so many people think of him as a “principled” and “brilliant” dismantler of arguments. The answer, it seems to me, is largely that Shapiro is a very confident person who speaks quickly. If he weren’t either of these things, he wouldn’t seem nearly as intelligent. Because he doesn’t care about whether he’s right, but about whether he destroys you, he uses a few effective lawyerly tricks: insist that there’s “no evidence whatsoever” something is true, demand the other side produce such evidence, and when they stammer “Buh-buh-buh” for two seconds, quickly interrupt with “See? What did I tell you? No evidence.” Or, just pluck some random numbers from a study, even if they’re totally false or misleading, e.g. “40% of transgender people commit suicide and the risk doesn’t go down if they are treated better,” which was nonsense but sounded good. Cross-examine people with aggressive questions that confuse them: Are you a moose? I said: are you a moose? No? I didn’t think so. I rest my case. Use shifting burdens of proof: demand a wealth of statistical evidence before you will admit that black people face any unique hardships, but respond to every criticism of the Israeli government by calling the speaker a “proven” and “undeniable” anti-Semite. Disregard all facts that contradict your case, but insist constantly that the other side despises facts and can’t handle the truth. Call your opponents “nasty,” “evil,” “brainless” “jackasses.” All of these techniques work very well, and with them, you, too, can soon be Owning and Destroying your political opponents on camera. (I would probably lose a debate with Ben Shapiro quite badly, as my instinct in public conversations is to try to listen to people.)
He's an aggressive fast-talking bullshit artist
Current Affairs is an American bimonthly magazine that discusses political and cultural topics from a left-wing political standpoint.[1] It is published in print and online, and supplemented by a podcast.[2][3] Nathan J. Robinson, a PhD student in sociology and social policy at Harvard University, founded the magazine in 2015 and is its editor-in-chief.[4][5]
Look I can link stuff as well. His most recent Youtube interview is Noam Chomsky. So you are telling me a fiercely liberal guy doesn't like Ben Shapiro?????? Holy fuck call the NYT! This has legs.
Liberals all hate Shapiro because he destroys them all in debates. The end. -
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You don’t hate liberals, you hate progressives; it’s the difference between conservatives and alt-right.Swaye said:
I'm not even remotely liberal, I just don't hate them all like some of the Tug denizens. I should amend that. I pretty much do hate them all now, but this is a very recent phenomena due to SJW and identity politics being the central pillar of current Democrat ideas.YellowSnow said:
I'm a liberal cool bro @Swaye compared to our ideologically pure right wingers at HH.Swaye said:I cannot understand what has happened to my lone liberal cool bro APAG. Ah well, things change and I can handle the ups and downs of AOC the bartenders cult of personality I suppose.
Point of order though - Ben Shapiro, whether he hates Jews or not, is not some small time guy. He is actually becoming a pretty big player in the ultra conservative uber intelligent great policy debater circles of the world. It is known Jon Snow.
Impressed Yang would do this - Shaprio routinely destroys everyone with his grasp of policy and keen intellect, so even going on there takes balls of steel and true belief. Of course I don't agree with most of his policies, but I automatically like him more than all the rest of the field because he is likeable, rational and has a strong command of the issues - unlike most of the retards the Dems have shit out to run this cycle. -
There's just so much to loathe from the left right now. The SJW / Identity Politics is going to continue to lose them elections.Swaye said:
I'm not even remotely liberal, I just don't hate them all like some of the Tug denizens. I should amend that. I pretty much do hate them all now, but this is a very recent phenomena due to SJW and identity politics being the central pillar of current Democrat ideas.YellowSnow said:
I'm a liberal cool bro @Swaye compared to our ideologically pure right wingers at HH.Swaye said:I cannot understand what has happened to my lone liberal cool bro APAG. Ah well, things change and I can handle the ups and downs of AOC the bartenders cult of personality I suppose.
Point of order though - Ben Shapiro, whether he hates Jews or not, is not some small time guy. He is actually becoming a pretty big player in the ultra conservative uber intelligent great policy debater circles of the world. It is known Jon Snow.
Impressed Yang would do this - Shaprio routinely destroys everyone with his grasp of policy and keen intellect, so even going on there takes balls of steel and true belief. Of course I don't agree with most of his policies, but I automatically like him more than all the rest of the field because he is likeable, rational and has a strong command of the issues - unlike most of the retards the Dems have shit out to run this cycle. -
Exactly. There's still a lot of Homophobic people out there who hate people who are different. And hate assholes. And being an asshole is currently in vogue.YellowSnow said:
There's just so much to loathe from the left right now. The SJW / Identity Politics is going to continue to lose them elections.Swaye said:
I'm not even remotely liberal, I just don't hate them all like some of the Tug denizens. I should amend that. I pretty much do hate them all now, but this is a very recent phenomena due to SJW and identity politics being the central pillar of current Democrat ideas.YellowSnow said:
I'm a liberal cool bro @Swaye compared to our ideologically pure right wingers at HH.Swaye said:I cannot understand what has happened to my lone liberal cool bro APAG. Ah well, things change and I can handle the ups and downs of AOC the bartenders cult of personality I suppose.
Point of order though - Ben Shapiro, whether he hates Jews or not, is not some small time guy. He is actually becoming a pretty big player in the ultra conservative uber intelligent great policy debater circles of the world. It is known Jon Snow.
Impressed Yang would do this - Shaprio routinely destroys everyone with his grasp of policy and keen intellect, so even going on there takes balls of steel and true belief. Of course I don't agree with most of his policies, but I automatically like him more than all the rest of the field because he is likeable, rational and has a strong command of the issues - unlike most of the retards the Dems have shit out to run this cycle. -
Lol looks like we found the anti-vaxxer's intellectual hero.DerekJohnson said:
I like to call an orthodox Jew who wears a yamaka and has a combined 3.5 million subscribers a small time alt right Youtuber. It's what I like to do.allpurpleallgold said:Being interviewed by a small time alt right youtuber reeks of desperation.
Don’t worry, you can catch Bernie on Fox News in about a week. Big time high octane socialist town hall on America’s number one news network. -
MariotaTheGawd said:
Lol looks like we found the anti-vaxxer's intellectual hero.DerekJohnson said:
I like to call an orthodox Jew who wears a yamaka and has a combined 3.5 million subscribers a small time alt right Youtuber. It's what I like to do.allpurpleallgold said:Being interviewed by a small time alt right youtuber reeks of desperation.
Don’t worry, you can catch Bernie on Fox News in about a week. Big time high octane socialist town hall on America’s number one news network.
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Yang's an idiot!
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Hadn't seen that. Yep, idiot.Sledog said:Yang's an idiot!
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“My ideal candidate is someone who tells their voters that the things they want that are popular are actually dumb and unrealistic! I’m the smart politics person and you should listen to me.”jecornel said:
Yep. When Bernie and AOC are the figure heads of your party you have no shot.RaceBannon said:The left hates debates because current doctrine is a collapsing house of cards
HTH
It's okay to say capitalism is better than socialism. It's okay to reward small to medium business size as opposed to penalizing them. It's okay to say while our history is filled with horrid actions but reparations aren't the way to heal those wounds. It's okay to tell people welfare is not a way of life but temporary assistance. It's okay to say border security is a serious issue and needs to be addressed.
Instead, AOC uses hot button issues to rile the base which she condemns Donald of doing to his base. She is no different. She is a total clown. -
I’m the most liberal person here. Fact.YellowSnow said:
I'm a liberal cool bro @Swaye compared to our ideologically pure right wingers at HH.Swaye said:I cannot understand what has happened to my lone liberal cool bro APAG. Ah well, things change and I can handle the ups and downs of AOC the bartenders cult of personality I suppose.
Point of order though - Ben Shapiro, whether he hates Jews or not, is not some small time guy. He is actually becoming a pretty big player in the ultra conservative uber intelligent great policy debater circles of the world. It is known Jon Snow.
Impressed Yang would do this - Shaprio routinely destroys everyone with his grasp of policy and keen intellect, so even going on there takes balls of steel and true belief. Of course I don't agree with most of his policies, but I automatically like him more than all the rest of the field because he is likeable, rational and has a strong command of the issues - unlike most of the retards the Dems have shit out to run this cycle. -
Actually I amMikeDamone said:
I’m the most liberal person here. Fact.YellowSnow said:
I'm a liberal cool bro @Swaye compared to our ideologically pure right wingers at HH.Swaye said:I cannot understand what has happened to my lone liberal cool bro APAG. Ah well, things change and I can handle the ups and downs of AOC the bartenders cult of personality I suppose.
Point of order though - Ben Shapiro, whether he hates Jews or not, is not some small time guy. He is actually becoming a pretty big player in the ultra conservative uber intelligent great policy debater circles of the world. It is known Jon Snow.
Impressed Yang would do this - Shaprio routinely destroys everyone with his grasp of policy and keen intellect, so even going on there takes balls of steel and true belief. Of course I don't agree with most of his policies, but I automatically like him more than all the rest of the field because he is likeable, rational and has a strong command of the issues - unlike most of the retards the Dems have shit out to run this cycle. -
Fight meRaceBannon said:
Actually I amMikeDamone said:
I’m the most liberal person here. Fact.YellowSnow said:
I'm a liberal cool bro @Swaye compared to our ideologically pure right wingers at HH.Swaye said:I cannot understand what has happened to my lone liberal cool bro APAG. Ah well, things change and I can handle the ups and downs of AOC the bartenders cult of personality I suppose.
Point of order though - Ben Shapiro, whether he hates Jews or not, is not some small time guy. He is actually becoming a pretty big player in the ultra conservative uber intelligent great policy debater circles of the world. It is known Jon Snow.
Impressed Yang would do this - Shaprio routinely destroys everyone with his grasp of policy and keen intellect, so even going on there takes balls of steel and true belief. Of course I don't agree with most of his policies, but I automatically like him more than all the rest of the field because he is likeable, rational and has a strong command of the issues - unlike most of the retards the Dems have shit out to run this cycle. -
sad!!MikeDamone said:
I’m the most liberal person here. Fact.YellowSnow said:
I'm a liberal cool bro @Swaye compared to our ideologically pure right wingers at HH.Swaye said:I cannot understand what has happened to my lone liberal cool bro APAG. Ah well, things change and I can handle the ups and downs of AOC the bartenders cult of personality I suppose.
Point of order though - Ben Shapiro, whether he hates Jews or not, is not some small time guy. He is actually becoming a pretty big player in the ultra conservative uber intelligent great policy debater circles of the world. It is known Jon Snow.
Impressed Yang would do this - Shaprio routinely destroys everyone with his grasp of policy and keen intellect, so even going on there takes balls of steel and true belief. Of course I don't agree with most of his policies, but I automatically like him more than all the rest of the field because he is likeable, rational and has a strong command of the issues - unlike most of the retards the Dems have shit out to run this cycle. -
So members of LaRaza are part of the alt-right? Where did Shapiro ever argue that?HardlyClothed said:
Arguing for a future America to be an ethnostate.SFGbob said:Now what makes someone a member of the alt-right? Can any of you libs answer the question?
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MikeDamone said:
Fight meRaceBannon said:
Actually I amMikeDamone said:
I’m the most liberal person here. Fact.YellowSnow said:
I'm a liberal cool bro @Swaye compared to our ideologically pure right wingers at HH.Swaye said:I cannot understand what has happened to my lone liberal cool bro APAG. Ah well, things change and I can handle the ups and downs of AOC the bartenders cult of personality I suppose.
Point of order though - Ben Shapiro, whether he hates Jews or not, is not some small time guy. He is actually becoming a pretty big player in the ultra conservative uber intelligent great policy debater circles of the world. It is known Jon Snow.
Impressed Yang would do this - Shaprio routinely destroys everyone with his grasp of policy and keen intellect, so even going on there takes balls of steel and true belief. Of course I don't agree with most of his policies, but I automatically like him more than all the rest of the field because he is likeable, rational and has a strong command of the issues - unlike most of the retards the Dems have shit out to run this cycle. -
You and @MikeDamone are both welcome in my liberal party.RaceBannon said:
Actually I amMikeDamone said:
I’m the most liberal person here. Fact.YellowSnow said:
I'm a liberal cool bro @Swaye compared to our ideologically pure right wingers at HH.Swaye said:I cannot understand what has happened to my lone liberal cool bro APAG. Ah well, things change and I can handle the ups and downs of AOC the bartenders cult of personality I suppose.
Point of order though - Ben Shapiro, whether he hates Jews or not, is not some small time guy. He is actually becoming a pretty big player in the ultra conservative uber intelligent great policy debater circles of the world. It is known Jon Snow.
Impressed Yang would do this - Shaprio routinely destroys everyone with his grasp of policy and keen intellect, so even going on there takes balls of steel and true belief. Of course I don't agree with most of his policies, but I automatically like him more than all the rest of the field because he is likeable, rational and has a strong command of the issues - unlike most of the retards the Dems have shit out to run this cycle.
