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  • TripleRainbowDawg
    TripleRainbowDawg Member Posts: 76
    I detecting some circular logic here: Browning sucks because, despite his stats, the eye test tells you he's not a legitimate NFL prospect. But other NFL draftees/signees, who had better defenses than Browning but won less, actually sucked equally or more? What is the bar for not sucking?
  • TripleRainbowDawg
    TripleRainbowDawg Member Posts: 76
    I'm not saying Jake is elite. I just think he was a capable college quarterback that deserves some modicum of credit for his teams' W-L records. I proved why you can't just point to having a great defense and write him off.
  • TripleRainbowDawg
    TripleRainbowDawg Member Posts: 76
    I don't like it, but I'll stay.

    Also, what's up with the casual homophobia around here?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,408 Founders Club

    2015 Boston College was #1 nationally in total defense. They finished 3-9. Platooned 4 QBs.
    2015 Missouri was #6 in total defense. They finished 5-7 (Coach Gary Pinkel's last season). QBs were Drew Lock and Maty Mauk. Lock is in '19 combine.
    2015 Penn St. was #14 in total defense. They finished 7-6. QBs were Christian Hackenberg and Trace McSorley. Hackenberg was #51 pick in '16 NFL draft. McSorely is in '19 combine.
    2015 Central Michigan was #16 in total defense. They finished 7-6. QB was Cooper Rush. Rush signed with Dallas in '17 as undrafted free agent.
    2015 Utah St. was #17 in total defense. They finished 6-7. QBs were Kent Myers and Chuckie Keeton.
    2015 Minnesota was #24 in total defense. They finished 6-7. QB was Mitch Leidner.
    2015 Kent St. was #27 in total defense. They finished 3-9. QBs were Colin Reardon and George Bollas.
    2015 Vanderbilt was #28 in total defense. They finished 4-8. QBs were Johnny McCrary and Kyle Shurmur. Shurmur is in '19 combine.
    2015 NC St. was #29 in total defense. They finished 7-6. QB was Jacoby Brissett. Brissett was picked #91 in '16 draft.
    2015 Illinois was #30 in total defense. They finished 5-7. QBs were Wes Lunt and Chayce Crouch. Lunt signed with Minnesota in '17 as undrafted free agent.
    2015 Dawgs were #31 in total defense. They finished 7-6.

    2016 Michigan was #1(tied) in total defense. They finished 10-3. QBs were John O'Korn and Wilton Speight
    2016 Temple was #3 in total defense. They finished 10-4. QB was P.J. Walker. Walker signed with Colts in '17 as undrafted free agent.
    2016 Florida was #5 in total defense. They finished 9-4. QBs were Austin Appleby and Luke Del Rio. Appleby signed with Dallas in '17 as undrafted free agent.
    2016 Boston College was #9 in total defense. They finished 7-6. QBs were Patrick Towles and Darius Wade.
    2016 LSU was #10 in total defense. They finished 8-4. QBs were Danny Elting and Brandon Harris. Elting was drafted #219 in '18.
    2016 Dawgs were #12 in total defense. They finished 12-2.

    2017 Michigan was #3 in total defense. They finished 8-5. QBs were John O'Korn, Brandon Peters and Wilton Speight.
    2017 UTSA was #5 in total defense. They finished 6-5. QB was Dalton Sturm. Sturm signed with Dallas in '18 as undrafted free agent.
    2017 Michigan St. was #7 in total defense. They finished 10-3. QB was Brian Lewerke.
    2017 Dawgs were #8 in total defense. They finished 10-3.

    2018 Miss. St. was #1 in total defense. They finished 8-5. QBs were Nick Fitzgerald and Keytaon Thompson. Fitzgerald is in '19 combine.
    2018 Michigan was #2 in total defense. They finished 10-3. QB was Shea Patterson.
    2018 Southern Miss. was #3 in total defense. They finished 6-5. QBs were Jack Abraham and Tate Whatley.
    2018 Miami was #4 in total defense. They finished 7-6. QBs were Malik Rosier and N'Kosi Perry.
    2018 Iowa was #7 in total defense. They finished 9-4. QB was Nate Stanley.
    2018 Michigan St. was #10 in total defense. They finished 7-6. QB was Brian Lewerke.
    2018 Dawgs were #12 in total defense. They finished 10-3.

    That's 24 teams during the Browning era with statistically better defenses but equal or worse records. These teams included numerous QBs who were NFL prospects, draftees or signees.

    Were all of these QBs equal or worse than Browning?

    I need a link for every line.
    Why so angry?
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    2015 Boston College was #1 nationally in total defense. They finished 3-9. Platooned 4 QBs.
    2015 Missouri was #6 in total defense. They finished 5-7 (Coach Gary Pinkel's last season). QBs were Drew Lock and Maty Mauk. Lock is in '19 combine.
    2015 Penn St. was #14 in total defense. They finished 7-6. QBs were Christian Hackenberg and Trace McSorley. Hackenberg was #51 pick in '16 NFL draft. McSorely is in '19 combine.
    2015 Central Michigan was #16 in total defense. They finished 7-6. QB was Cooper Rush. Rush signed with Dallas in '17 as undrafted free agent.
    2015 Utah St. was #17 in total defense. They finished 6-7. QBs were Kent Myers and Chuckie Keeton.
    2015 Minnesota was #24 in total defense. They finished 6-7. QB was Mitch Leidner.
    2015 Kent St. was #27 in total defense. They finished 3-9. QBs were Colin Reardon and George Bollas.
    2015 Vanderbilt was #28 in total defense. They finished 4-8. QBs were Johnny McCrary and Kyle Shurmur. Shurmur is in '19 combine.
    2015 NC St. was #29 in total defense. They finished 7-6. QB was Jacoby Brissett. Brissett was picked #91 in '16 draft.
    2015 Illinois was #30 in total defense. They finished 5-7. QBs were Wes Lunt and Chayce Crouch. Lunt signed with Minnesota in '17 as undrafted free agent.
    2015 Dawgs were #31 in total defense. They finished 7-6.

    2016 Michigan was #1(tied) in total defense. They finished 10-3. QBs were John O'Korn and Wilton Speight
    2016 Temple was #3 in total defense. They finished 10-4. QB was P.J. Walker. Walker signed with Colts in '17 as undrafted free agent.
    2016 Florida was #5 in total defense. They finished 9-4. QBs were Austin Appleby and Luke Del Rio. Appleby signed with Dallas in '17 as undrafted free agent.
    2016 Boston College was #9 in total defense. They finished 7-6. QBs were Patrick Towles and Darius Wade.
    2016 LSU was #10 in total defense. They finished 8-4. QBs were Danny Elting and Brandon Harris. Elting was drafted #219 in '18.
    2016 Dawgs were #12 in total defense. They finished 12-2.

    2017 Michigan was #3 in total defense. They finished 8-5. QBs were John O'Korn, Brandon Peters and Wilton Speight.
    2017 UTSA was #5 in total defense. They finished 6-5. QB was Dalton Sturm. Sturm signed with Dallas in '18 as undrafted free agent.
    2017 Michigan St. was #7 in total defense. They finished 10-3. QB was Brian Lewerke.
    2017 Dawgs were #8 in total defense. They finished 10-3.

    2018 Miss. St. was #1 in total defense. They finished 8-5. QBs were Nick Fitzgerald and Keytaon Thompson. Fitzgerald is in '19 combine.
    2018 Michigan was #2 in total defense. They finished 10-3. QB was Shea Patterson.
    2018 Southern Miss. was #3 in total defense. They finished 6-5. QBs were Jack Abraham and Tate Whatley.
    2018 Miami was #4 in total defense. They finished 7-6. QBs were Malik Rosier and N'Kosi Perry.
    2018 Iowa was #7 in total defense. They finished 9-4. QB was Nate Stanley.
    2018 Michigan St. was #10 in total defense. They finished 7-6. QB was Brian Lewerke.
    2018 Dawgs were #12 in total defense. They finished 10-3.

    That's 24 teams during the Browning era with statistically better defenses but equal or worse records. These teams included numerous QBs who were NFL prospects, draftees or signees.

    Were all of these QBs equal or worse than Browning?

    I need a link for every line.
    Why so angry?
    Quit lashing out.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    I don't like it, but I'll stay.

    Also, what's up with the casual homophobia around here?

    Been trying to place who you are. Maybe @HarveyRoad but Derek seems to have that on lock. @SunnyyDodger ? @SpoogeDawg would have spun out already.
  • TripleRainbowDawg
    TripleRainbowDawg Member Posts: 76
    A few lowlight gifs is a mic drop? Jake made some awful plays no doubt. But who hasn't? I'm looking at his total output.