Universal Basic Income - Freedom Dividend
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It helped out Native Americans. They track where those cards were used and casinos were a favorite. Hey had they won anything they get off the doleBennyBeaver said:
Helps the economy IMO.Sledog said:
Just don't give them anything.greenblood said:
True story. Went to Costco one time and saw a couple druggies opening up cases of bottled water and dumping them in the parking lot so they could convert their food stamps into cash.MikeDamone said:
Milton had some thoughts.greenblood said:I'm for UBI if it gets rid of Welfare
https://youtu.be/FWcTMGaOHWA
If they are going to do shit like that, just give them the money. Much more efficient.
When Obingo turned loose the food stamps and welfare all came on a card they all go buy booze, cigarettes and strippers. -
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Retired nerds turned consultants make a killing.RaceBannon said:
Projects don't manage themselves either. And PMs grow up to be consultants where you can really rakegreenblood said:
There will always be a job for Accountants, Doctors, Lawyers, Engineers, Professors/Teachers, Law Enforcement, Technology, Investments, and Sales.2001400ex said:
We are shifting from a manufacturing to a technology based economy. There are jobs being replaced by automation, and it's been happening for years. But someone needs to program the computers for automation. This creates jobs. It's not one for one, but it's also not a 100% lots of jobs either, a percentage is replaced by IT people. And people to manufacture the machines.Fenderbender123 said:I've been saying this for years, so hopefully I'm right, but I really don't see automation killing the economy or putting people permanently out of work. We have always replaced jobs whenever automation hits a big sector. And everyone always says "but this time is different!" and they are always right when they say that, but the outcome is always the same.
As long as humans are available, we can be hired to perform value adding tasks that machines can't. And as long as businesses are competitive they will hire to achieve that edge.
I tell my boy to either go to college for staple professional jobs that'll always be there such as accounting or engineering. Or pharmacy/medical that'll always be there. Or technology. Which is replacing low level or middle class jobs with high paying jobs.
Taking an early buyout retirement at the earliest possible date after writing the contract for the former director...now consulting at home.
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I like the name Freedom Dividend. Just what the fuck does that mean? Freedom from work like everyone else? Freedom from what exactly? It should be "The free shit from people who work hard because your a lazy worthless piece of shit that doesn't contribute to society" dividend;" HTH
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@RaceBannon things are looking up!
I'm 81% on board with UBI, as a replacement for most other federal transfer programs. Take all of the federal spending on housing, SNAP, training, etc. and just cut people in the bottom 10% or so a check. Let them decide what to do with it. Add in whatever qualifiers you'd like.
We spend roughly 10% of our GDP on public assistance and that's without counting social security or medicare. It very roughly works out to $30,000 per year per person. Do you think that poor people currently receive $30,000 worth of goods and services from the government? I sure don't. That's what we are spending though. Might as well give it directly to them to decide what to do with it. Better than paying a vast entrenched bureaucracy to play musical chairs while poor people suffer.
We cut old poor people and disabled poor people a check. It's not much different. -
Also, automation doesn't eliminate jobs from the total economy, just sections of the economy. It actually frees people up to do other better jobs. We are going to continue to transition to a service, tech, and intellectual property industry. That's a good thing.
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I'm all in favor of streamlining the delivery of aid to get more of it to the person who needs it not the massive layers of people who oversee it. 100% inUW_Doog_Bot said:@RaceBannon things are looking up!
I'm 81% on board with UBI, as a replacement for most other federal transfer programs. Take all of the federal spending on housing, SNAP, training, etc. and just cut people in the bottom 10% or so a check. Let them decide what to do with it. Add in whatever qualifiers you'd like.
We spend roughly 10% of our GDP on public assistance and that's without counting social security or medicare. It very roughly works out to $30,000 per year per person. Do you think that poor people currently receive $30,000 worth of goods and services from the government? I sure don't. That's what we are spending though. Might as well give it directly to them to decide what to do with it. Better than paying a vast entrenched bureaucracy to play musical chairs while poor people suffer.
We cut old poor people and disabled poor people a check. It's not much different.
