Universal Basic Income - Freedom Dividend
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True story. Went to Costco one time and saw a couple druggies opening up cases of bottled water and dumping them in the parking lot so they could convert their food stamps into cash.MikeDamone said:
Milton had some thoughts.greenblood said:I'm for UBI if it gets rid of Welfare
https://youtu.be/FWcTMGaOHWA
If they are going to do shit like that, just give them the money. Much more efficient. -
Just don't give them anything.greenblood said:
True story. Went to Costco one time and saw a couple druggies opening up cases of bottled water and dumping them in the parking lot so they could convert their food stamps into cash.MikeDamone said:
Milton had some thoughts.greenblood said:I'm for UBI if it gets rid of Welfare
https://youtu.be/FWcTMGaOHWA
If they are going to do shit like that, just give them the money. Much more efficient.
When Obingo turned loose the food stamps and welfare all came on a card they all go buy booze, cigarettes and strippers. -
Great conversation. He doesn't shit on vocational, apprenticeship training and trades which are viable jobs that can't be easily replaced by automation. There are also mental benefits of that type of work . Strongly believes college is over emphasized. You are paying three times more but not better a three times better product. College doesn't have to be for everyone plus you will be crushed by debt.pawz said:Interesting conversation.
As could be expected, my knee-jerk reaction to UBI is fuck that. Simply giving people money won't solve anything. It's fucking expensive. You may may create apathy in a population ... etc
That said, automation and artificial intelligence in the workplace is going to render millions without jobs over the next 10 years. To be fair to the business owner, there are many sound reasons for the implementation of automation and artificial intelligence. But still.
Most of the jobs lost will be to people who won't be rehire-able in the work force. And #learntocode (training higher skill sets) won't realistically be an option for the majority displaced.
One can make a legit case for the automation-replacing-labor in the swing states is what ushered in the #MAGA presidency.
Staying out in front seems better than waiting to after the fact when people are legit displaced, without options.. to think this group of proud blue collar workers will take this lying down is laughable.
Are there better ways to head-off this imminent, massive problem?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Yang_(entrepreneur)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTsEzmFamZ8
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Though, he doesn't hurt insults or shit on a large group of people. May get boring for some.
Worth listening to him. -
I think we should begin right now. How about all those in favor of guaranteed income start writing checks to the lowest earners on this board.
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Who shits on vocational, apprenticeships and trades?jecornel said:
Great conversation. He doesn't shit on vocational, apprenticeship training and trades which are viable jobs that can't be easily replaced by automation. There are also mental benefits of that type of work . Strongly believes college is over emphasized. You are paying three times more but not better a three times better product. College doesn't have to be for everyone plus you will be crushed by debt.pawz said:Interesting conversation.
As could be expected, my knee-jerk reaction to UBI is fuck that. Simply giving people money won't solve anything. It's fucking expensive. You may may create apathy in a population ... etc
That said, automation and artificial intelligence in the workplace is going to render millions without jobs over the next 10 years. To be fair to the business owner, there are many sound reasons for the implementation of automation and artificial intelligence. But still.
Most of the jobs lost will be to people who won't be rehire-able in the work force. And #learntocode (training higher skill sets) won't realistically be an option for the majority displaced.
One can make a legit case for the automation-replacing-labor in the swing states is what ushered in the #MAGA presidency.
Staying out in front seems better than waiting to after the fact when people are legit displaced, without options.. to think this group of proud blue collar workers will take this lying down is laughable.
Are there better ways to head-off this imminent, massive problem?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Yang_(entrepreneur)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTsEzmFamZ8
,
Though, he doesn't hurt insults or shit on a large group of people. May get boring for some.
Worth listening to him. -
You have to give them something. Provide nothing and crime goes up ten foldSledog said:
Just don't give them anything.greenblood said:
True story. Went to Costco one time and saw a couple druggies opening up cases of bottled water and dumping them in the parking lot so they could convert their food stamps into cash.MikeDamone said:
Milton had some thoughts.greenblood said:I'm for UBI if it gets rid of Welfare
https://youtu.be/FWcTMGaOHWA
If they are going to do shit like that, just give them the money. Much more efficient.
When Obingo turned loose the food stamps and welfare all came on a card they all go buy booze, cigarettes and strippers. -
I think we should begin right now. How about all those in favor of guaranteed income start writing checks to the lowest earners on this board.
Really? We're supposed to pay them not to commit crime?greenblood said:
You have to give them something. Provide nothing and crime goes up ten foldSledog said:
Just don't give them anything.greenblood said:
True story. Went to Costco one time and saw a couple druggies opening up cases of bottled water and dumping them in the parking lot so they could convert their food stamps into cash.MikeDamone said:
Milton had some thoughts.greenblood said:I'm for UBI if it gets rid of Welfare
https://youtu.be/FWcTMGaOHWA
If they are going to do shit like that, just give them the money. Much more efficient.
When Obingo turned loose the food stamps and welfare all came on a card they all go buy booze, cigarettes and strippers.
You are way around the bend. I suggest you move to another country. What you want will require a civil war. Why Go through all that when you can move? -
On the contrary...every country that doesn’t provide any assistance for the poor is in a civil war, or ruled by a dictator.Sledog said:I think we should begin right now. How about all those in favor of guaranteed income start writing checks to the lowest earners on this board.
Really? We're supposed to pay them not to commit crime?greenblood said:
You have to give them something. Provide nothing and crime goes up ten foldSledog said:
Just don't give them anything.greenblood said:
True story. Went to Costco one time and saw a couple druggies opening up cases of bottled water and dumping them in the parking lot so they could convert their food stamps into cash.MikeDamone said:
Milton had some thoughts.greenblood said:I'm for UBI if it gets rid of Welfare
https://youtu.be/FWcTMGaOHWA
If they are going to do shit like that, just give them the money. Much more efficient.
When Obingo turned loose the food stamps and welfare all came on a card they all go buy booze, cigarettes and strippers.
You are way around the bend. I suggest you move to another country. What you want will require a civil war. Why Go through all that when you can move? -
You must have not attended college.allpurpleallgold said:
Who shits on vocational, apprenticeships and trades?jecornel said:
Great conversation. He doesn't shit on vocational, apprenticeship training and trades which are viable jobs that can't be easily replaced by automation. There are also mental benefits of that type of work . Strongly believes college is over emphasized. You are paying three times more but not better a three times better product. College doesn't have to be for everyone plus you will be crushed by debt.pawz said:Interesting conversation.
As could be expected, my knee-jerk reaction to UBI is fuck that. Simply giving people money won't solve anything. It's fucking expensive. You may may create apathy in a population ... etc
That said, automation and artificial intelligence in the workplace is going to render millions without jobs over the next 10 years. To be fair to the business owner, there are many sound reasons for the implementation of automation and artificial intelligence. But still.
Most of the jobs lost will be to people who won't be rehire-able in the work force. And #learntocode (training higher skill sets) won't realistically be an option for the majority displaced.
One can make a legit case for the automation-replacing-labor in the swing states is what ushered in the #MAGA presidency.
Staying out in front seems better than waiting to after the fact when people are legit displaced, without options.. to think this group of proud blue collar workers will take this lying down is laughable.
Are there better ways to head-off this imminent, massive problem?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Yang_(entrepreneur)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTsEzmFamZ8
,
Though, he doesn't hurt insults or shit on a large group of people. May get boring for some.
Worth listening to him. -
Myopic view. I recommend psilocybin.Sledog said:I think we should begin right now. How about all those in favor of guaranteed income start writing checks to the lowest earners on this board.
Really? We're supposed to pay them not to commit crime?greenblood said:
You have to give them something. Provide nothing and crime goes up ten foldSledog said:
Just don't give them anything.greenblood said:
True story. Went to Costco one time and saw a couple druggies opening up cases of bottled water and dumping them in the parking lot so they could convert their food stamps into cash.MikeDamone said:
Milton had some thoughts.greenblood said:I'm for UBI if it gets rid of Welfare
https://youtu.be/FWcTMGaOHWA
If they are going to do shit like that, just give them the money. Much more efficient.
When Obingo turned loose the food stamps and welfare all came on a card they all go buy booze, cigarettes and strippers.
You are way around the bend. I suggest you move to another country. What you want will require a civil war. Why Go through all that when you can move?
There are potentially millions displaced. If we don't prepare for what's coming, we are going to get civil war.
