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Brandon Kaho Commemorative Collegiate Career Impact Forecast - 2019 Results
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Thank you to everyone who participated, even those of you that forgot which alt you used to sign up with and voted under a different handle which was really fucking confusing for me.
Loots of dooging for this class. The average score was a 3.63, and only 22 times was the score of 1 given out to a scholarship player.
In reverse order, from lowest ranked, to highest ranked:
#22) Dylan Morris with a score of 2.15 - a bit of a surprise that he's so low, but it appears everyone is of the opinion that he is unlikely to beat out Yankoff/Sirmon/Huard and be a career backup at best. Half a point lower than the next guy in the class, which was a bit of a surprise for me.
#21) Corey Luciano with a score of 2.73 - score that implies spot starter-ish impact for the future. Not really surprising to me.
#20) Bralen Trice with a score of 2.76 - lowest rated defensive recruit, and a guy we beat out some decent schools for. Coaches definitely see something that the bored does not.
#17 (Tie) Taj Davis, Tim Horn, and Miki Ah You, with a score of 2.88 - Three way tie for 17th between our only WR, our K, and the 4th ILB. Amazing that a kicker isn't last overall, but I think that says something about our special teams. Horn and Ah You were also the only two players to have been rated across the entire spectrum of 1-5. Shout out to @bananasnblondes and @PineapplePirate for thinking Horn is going to be a 5, and @GreenRiverGatorz giving Ah You a 5.
#16) Nathaniel Kalepo with a score of 3.20 - Big jump here into what is effectively a solid starter rating. Given what he did for our recruiting, I hope he outperforms our projections.
#14 (Tie) Noa Ngalu and Alphonzo Tuputala with a score of 3.24 - Another tie here with solid scores for a couple of our more underrated recruits. @Mad_Son gave Ngalu his only 5, while Tuputala's scores all fell between 2-4.
#13) Cameron Williams with a score of 3.41 - The first of Jimmy Lake's recruits comes in at 13th, with mostly 3s and 4s. @1to392831weretaken gave him the only 5, but he also got about a half dozen 2s.
#12) Kamren Fabiculanan with a score of 3.61 - Similar to C-Will, but a few more 5s, and only @ExtraChrisB @HuskyJW and @Doogles giving him a 2.
#11) Julius Buelow with a score of 3.68 - Above average starter score. I was one of the few that gave him a 2. Hopefully I'm wrong, but his lack of foot speed scares me.
#10) Cameron Davis with a score of 3.73 - Squeaks out Buelow to be the 2nd highest offensive player. 5s came from @KrunkJuice @bananasnblondes and @1to392831weretaken while @whatshouldicareabout gave him the only 2.
#9) Josh Calvert with a score of 3.80 - Quickly approaching all-conference level starter. Almost all 4s, with a smattering of 3s and 5s. @HuskyJW only felt him worthy of a 2 though.
#8) Asa Turner with a score of 4.21 - Asa is the bottom of the next tier of players who all score comfortably above a 4. Almost all 4s and 5s here, with @1to392831weretaken giving him the only 2.
#7) Troy Fautanu with a score of 4.29 - highest ranked offensive player. Lowest score was a 3, given by 5 people. Got 24 5s from the crowd.
#6) Jacob Bandes with a score of 4.30 - the 3rd highest ranked DL is the 6th overall player in the class. Malloe did incredible. Beat Fautanu by virtue of one fewer 3.
#5) Trent McDuffies with a score of 4.52 - Jimmy Lake is slipping when his highest player is only 5th in the class (kidding). McDuffie's lowest score was a 4.
#3 (Tie) Sama Pa'ama and Daniel Heimuli with a score of 4.55 - Tie at the 3rd spot. Pa'ama had one more 5, but also 2 3s from @Houhusky and @godawgst . Heimuli got his only 3 from @Bread .
#2) Laiatu Latu with a score of 4.56 - Tight race at the top, but loses out by virtue of 3s from @Saracen and @HuskyJW
#1) Faatui Tuitele with a score of 4.59 - Lowest score was a 4, and 41 5s. Also, likely the winner of favorite dad.
Will follow up with PWOs, recruiter rankings, and other data tomorrow-ish.
Loots of dooging for this class. The average score was a 3.63, and only 22 times was the score of 1 given out to a scholarship player.
In reverse order, from lowest ranked, to highest ranked:
#22) Dylan Morris with a score of 2.15 - a bit of a surprise that he's so low, but it appears everyone is of the opinion that he is unlikely to beat out Yankoff/Sirmon/Huard and be a career backup at best. Half a point lower than the next guy in the class, which was a bit of a surprise for me.
#21) Corey Luciano with a score of 2.73 - score that implies spot starter-ish impact for the future. Not really surprising to me.
#20) Bralen Trice with a score of 2.76 - lowest rated defensive recruit, and a guy we beat out some decent schools for. Coaches definitely see something that the bored does not.
#17 (Tie) Taj Davis, Tim Horn, and Miki Ah You, with a score of 2.88 - Three way tie for 17th between our only WR, our K, and the 4th ILB. Amazing that a kicker isn't last overall, but I think that says something about our special teams. Horn and Ah You were also the only two players to have been rated across the entire spectrum of 1-5. Shout out to @bananasnblondes and @PineapplePirate for thinking Horn is going to be a 5, and @GreenRiverGatorz giving Ah You a 5.
#16) Nathaniel Kalepo with a score of 3.20 - Big jump here into what is effectively a solid starter rating. Given what he did for our recruiting, I hope he outperforms our projections.
#14 (Tie) Noa Ngalu and Alphonzo Tuputala with a score of 3.24 - Another tie here with solid scores for a couple of our more underrated recruits. @Mad_Son gave Ngalu his only 5, while Tuputala's scores all fell between 2-4.
#13) Cameron Williams with a score of 3.41 - The first of Jimmy Lake's recruits comes in at 13th, with mostly 3s and 4s. @1to392831weretaken gave him the only 5, but he also got about a half dozen 2s.
#12) Kamren Fabiculanan with a score of 3.61 - Similar to C-Will, but a few more 5s, and only @ExtraChrisB @HuskyJW and @Doogles giving him a 2.
#11) Julius Buelow with a score of 3.68 - Above average starter score. I was one of the few that gave him a 2. Hopefully I'm wrong, but his lack of foot speed scares me.
#10) Cameron Davis with a score of 3.73 - Squeaks out Buelow to be the 2nd highest offensive player. 5s came from @KrunkJuice @bananasnblondes and @1to392831weretaken while @whatshouldicareabout gave him the only 2.
#9) Josh Calvert with a score of 3.80 - Quickly approaching all-conference level starter. Almost all 4s, with a smattering of 3s and 5s. @HuskyJW only felt him worthy of a 2 though.
#8) Asa Turner with a score of 4.21 - Asa is the bottom of the next tier of players who all score comfortably above a 4. Almost all 4s and 5s here, with @1to392831weretaken giving him the only 2.
#7) Troy Fautanu with a score of 4.29 - highest ranked offensive player. Lowest score was a 3, given by 5 people. Got 24 5s from the crowd.
#6) Jacob Bandes with a score of 4.30 - the 3rd highest ranked DL is the 6th overall player in the class. Malloe did incredible. Beat Fautanu by virtue of one fewer 3.
#5) Trent McDuffies with a score of 4.52 - Jimmy Lake is slipping when his highest player is only 5th in the class (kidding). McDuffie's lowest score was a 4.
#3 (Tie) Sama Pa'ama and Daniel Heimuli with a score of 4.55 - Tie at the 3rd spot. Pa'ama had one more 5, but also 2 3s from @Houhusky and @godawgst . Heimuli got his only 3 from @Bread .
#2) Laiatu Latu with a score of 4.56 - Tight race at the top, but loses out by virtue of 3s from @Saracen and @HuskyJW
#1) Faatui Tuitele with a score of 4.59 - Lowest score was a 4, and 41 5s. Also, likely the winner of favorite dad.
Will follow up with PWOs, recruiter rankings, and other data tomorrow-ish.
Comments
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You fuckers who gave Heimuli and Pa'ama a 3 are killing me
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@Woof who was the consensus “sleeper”?
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This was supposed to be a prediction of the Callier rankings four years from now, right? Way too many 5's.
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There were more 1's than 4's in the last Callier rankings. If the class is half this good we plungering the Pac for 4 years straight.UWhuskytskeet said:This was supposed to be a prediction of the Callier rankings four years from now, right? Way too many 5's.
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Most likely get homesick and enroll at Bama award goes to Asa Turner, with 51.5% of the vote. Heimuli was the runner up with only 15.1% of the vote. Nobody else registered more than 3 votes.
Most overrated award goes to Dylan Morris with 51.5% of the vote. Kalepo was the runner up with 21.2%, and nobody else registered more than 3 votes.
Most underrated award goes to Alphonzo Tuputala with 17% of the vote. Pa'ama was the runner up with 12% of the vote, and Fautanu was a close 3rd with 11%. Much more spread out on this one, with 19 guys, including Drew Fowler receiving a vote. The only scholarship players who didn't receive a vote were Morris and Kalepo.
I should have been clearer on how to score the PWOs. I believe a subset graded them on a different scale (i.e., there were 16 scores of 4 or 5), so that throws off the scores. I was intending them to be ranked on the same metric as the scholarship guys.
Mishael Powell (DB from O'Dea) - scored a 2.85, which would have put him higher than Trice, Luciano, and Morris
Hunter Hansen (WTE from Bellevue) - scored a 2.51
Drew Fowler (LB from Bellevue) - scored a 3.61. I mean this guy did turn down multiple P12 offers, but I can't imagine the group would say he is as good as the median player on the scholarship list. I could see him becoming a starter/scholarship player in the future. -
@Bread you shit lips!
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We always like the new recruits better than we should. It’s nothing new.UWhuskytskeet said:This was supposed to be a prediction of the Callier rankings four years from now, right? Way too many 5's.
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Wait till they play a down, then we will hate themRoadDawg55 said:
We always like the new recruits better than we should. It’s nothing new.UWhuskytskeet said:This was supposed to be a prediction of the Callier rankings four years from now, right? Way too many 5's.
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Some of the names behind those outlier votes should just be excludes from future votes. They either don't have a clue due to stupidity, disinterest in recruiting, or, well, they're not interested so why fucking vote anyways? They're just being cock bags by even taking part.
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I think I ended up giving 4/5 5's. Given these are projections and we're projecting what these guys will look like in our system how can you not give Tui, Asa, mcduffie, Latu, and hammer 5's
I can see a few more too.
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This is what happens when we judge kids exclusively off of highlight tapes then start seeing them play, non-highlights and all.RoadDawg55 said:
We always like the new recruits better than we should. It’s nothing new.UWhuskytskeet said:This was supposed to be a prediction of the Callier rankings four years from now, right? Way too many 5's.
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When you recruit as well as we do, all of the players project to transition well into FBS ball. The law of averages tells us that at least a handful of guys won’t make it, largely for reasons that are unforeseen at this point in time. Guys will fail, but it’s extremely difficult to predict who that will be. I tried to throw a few random 2s in there to reflect that inevitability, but it really is a crapshoot based on almost nothing.RoadDawg55 said:
We always like the new recruits better than we should. It’s nothing new.UWhuskytskeet said:This was supposed to be a prediction of the Callier rankings four years from now, right? Way too many 5's.
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That's a good point. It's kind of like picking an NCAA hoops bracket. Bad games leading to upsets, inaccurate seeding leading to "upsets", etc are all things that you can't expect to predict with much accuracy. It's similarly impossible to predict which prospects won't work out for the myriad of reasons that we hear about after the fact.GreenRiverGatorz said:
When you recruit as well as we do, all of the players project to transition well into FBS ball. The law of averages tells us that at least a handful of guys won’t make it, largely for reasons that are unforeseen at this point in time. Guys will fail, but it’s extremely difficult to predict who that will be. I tried to throw a few random 2s in there to reflect that inevitability, but it really is a crapshoot based on almost nothing.RoadDawg55 said:
We always like the new recruits better than we should. It’s nothing new.UWhuskytskeet said:This was supposed to be a prediction of the Callier rankings four years from now, right? Way too many 5's.
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I don't think heimuli lasts here 3 years. The weird recruitment and listing him officially at 5'11.5" makes me think there is two paths for him at Washington. He is overhyped and leaves after getting sick of battling drew and jeff for playing time; Or, he will keep clashing with coaches and end up at bama as soon as they call. Amadre 2.0 or Kaho 2.0.Swaye said:@Bread you shit lips!
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Bread said:
I don't think heimuli lasts here 3 years. The weird recruitment and listing him officially at 5'11.5" makes me think there is two paths for him at Washington. He is overhyped and leaves after getting sick of battling drew and jeff for playing time; Or, he will keep clashing with coaches and end up at bama as soon as they call. Amadre 2.0 or Kaho 2.0.Swaye said:@Bread you shit lips!
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Your walk on fetish has fried your brain.Bread said:
I don't think heimuli lasts here 3 years. The weird recruitment and listing him officially at 5'11.5" makes me think there is two paths for him at Washington. He is overhyped and leaves after getting sick of battling drew and jeff for playing time; Or, he will keep clashing with coaches and end up at bama as soon as they call. Amadre 2.0 or Kaho 2.0.Swaye said:@Bread you shit lips!
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Sorry for this being so spread out, but I've been traveling and I incorrectly thought I could finish it up last night, and again before my flight this morning.
Coach grades which are likely a bit out of date given the Puka news
Flunking out and soon doing mid-level-marketing tier:
Lubick - 0.03 GPA, with his only 2 Ds coming from @Saracen and @Samoyed
Paopao - 0.17 GPA, with an A from @bread (I assume a typo, but maybe not?) and 7 people who gave him a D
Bhonapha - 1.28 GPA, with 4 Bs from @KrunkJuice @1to392831weretaken @AlCzervik and @Bread - they all must have been super happy with Cam Davis
Likely gonna end up in retail tier:
Hamdan - 1.91 GPA, if he fixes the offense, NOGAF about his recruiting. Got his only A from @AlCzervik and Fs from @DoogCourics @Neighbor2972 and @NorwegianHusky
Harris - 2.02 GPA, an enigma wrapped in a question this year, given he was mostly focused on 2020 guys. Or at least that's what we're hoping given his 2019 performance. Received As from @1to392831weretaken and @Saracen , but Fs from @kh83 @theknowledge @Mad_Son and @NorwegianHusky
Had a good year and mom won't complain too much tier:
Kwiatkowski - 2.97 GPA, which is probably 2.95 points higher than his 2016-2018 rating would have been. Got Ds from @Samoyed and @jhfstyle24
Gregory - 3.02 GPA, which is also way over his career average. Ds from @ImHuskyYouFat @Mad_Son and @Rubberfist . Who else did you guys want him to get?
Honor roll:
Huff - 3.48 GPA, with all As and Bs
Lake - 3.88 GPA with only 8 Bs
Malloe - 3.96 GPA with 2 Bs from @HuskyJW and @Bread who I guess wanted Wright/Ika as well?
Overall:
Coach Pete had a GPA of 2.89, which I think would likely be a bit higher with the Puka news. @Swaye gave him an F and @NorwegianHusky gave him a D, but everyone else was C or above.
Given the dooging that occurred in the BKCCCIF numbers, it came as no surprise to me that 86% of you believe Sav'ell Smalls will sign with UW next year.
Lastly, the doogliest grader was none other than @Tequilla who AVERAGED a 4.18 on his ratings, while @whatshouldicareabout averaged only a 3.18 (only a slight step above this year's departing class).
Congrats to @TTJ for being the highest correlation with the group on his ratings, while @Samoyed had the lowest correlation.
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I was having an "I hate white people" moment over the Elizabeth Warren shit when I ranked Pete. He got caught in a cultural appropriation crossfire. Collateral damage happens and shit. At least that's what white people have told me about Wounded Knee. YOU FUCKS!
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My suggestion is to do the same shit next year.
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We are so fuckedWoof said:Given the dooging that occurred in the BKCCCIF numbers, it came as no surprise to me that 86% of you believe Sav'ell Smalls will sign with UW next year.
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I hope @Bread dies in a fucking fire. He sucks
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Plagiarism your own shit and do it again next year fucko.
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I like that in all shoutouts, I was never named. Shooting for average.
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@Bread gave Jordan PaoPao a higher grade than Ikaika Malloe. Coog/duck troll confirmed!
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That's what I mean. Fuck sticks voting like the playground losers who can't play but get involved just to fuck up the game should be banned from future activities like this. Outliers are useless, especially when you know they were intentional.HillsboroDuck said:@Bread gave Jordan PaoPao a higher grade than Ikaika Malloe. Coog/duck troll confirmed!
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Ok I messed up this time. Didn't realize we are only ranking the coaches on how well they did recruiting kids on twitter over the past 12 months? Sorry for ranking them based on their impact on UW over their entire career here.
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Sounds like Dawgman.chuck said:
That's what I mean. Fuck sticks voting like the playground losers who can't play but get involved just to fuck up the game should be banned from future activities like this. Outliers are useless, especially when you know they were intentional.HillsboroDuck said:@Bread gave Jordan PaoPao a higher grade than Ikaika Malloe. Coog/duck troll confirmed!
