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Underrated Aspect Of UW Recruiting

I won't rehash a lot of the topics that have already been discussed about Pete's recruiting process. Losing Toot Toot and likely Puka Shells on signing day fucking sucks. And it's been discussed at length what needs to be done to close better, which was then countered by 14 Four Star players and a great overall class.

Say what you want about Pete's process and how long it takes to offer guys (I certainly have, which @HillsboroDuck can attest to) or some of the guys he doesn't offer or some of the guys he offers that seems like a waste. Overall, the talent level has gotten better each year which I have also broken down in detail.

But what I did want to take a second to focus on was a largely glanced over portion of this whole process:



With Asa reaffirming and signing, there were 0 de-commits this year.

Fightin Herms - 5
Zona - 4
Cal Too High - 4
Ruffalo Soldier - 10 (They got pilfered by the bigger boys who came calling late)
ScoDucks - 7 (Those players were backup plans anyway)
Beavlets - 1 (Gotta have players people want to lose em Babushka)
Stanford - 0
UCLA - 2
USC LOLOLOL - 5
Utah - 0
Pirates - 4


2019 - 0
2018 - Kaho (Nick Bolton doesn't count)
2017 - Marlon and Wedington
2016 - 0
2015 - 0


It's a huge fucking disappointment to not beat out Tennessee and Oregon and it needs to be remedied. But it's a huge fucking relief to not have dudes flipping last minute and leaving a huge hole you didn't plan on existing.
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  • Bread
    Bread Member Posts: 4,073
    I count Asa as a decommit. Pretty doogish to ignore, Even if he did recommit later.
  • KrunkJuice
    KrunkJuice Member Posts: 2,070
    Next year is going to be so interesting because of the level/talent of in state kids and the others who we are in a great spot for.
  • DoogCourics
    DoogCourics Member Posts: 5,739
    Bread said:

    I count Asa as a decommit. Pretty doogish to ignore, Even if he did recommit later.

    1) My name is DoogCourics

    2) He signed on the line, so it's washed from my memory
  • DoogCourics
    DoogCourics Member Posts: 5,739

    People forget


    I didn't forget, I ignored. He wasn't a Pete guy and he has already moved on again which isn't a surprise to anyone who followed him.
  • Domicillo
    Domicillo Member Posts: 3,025
    I decommitted..... I'm all @UWSoftball now.
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,676 Swaye's Wigwam
    Bread said:

    I count Asa as a decommit. Pretty doogish to ignore, Even if he did recommit later.

    That's an unsurprisingly stupid comment. He fucking signed didn't he?

    You, like a couple of other posters, are trying too hard to hold the old half brain line of "everything sucks, fire everyone".

    UW can't close? Did they not just close with two national recruits? Did they not close 2/3 last year, only missing one late Target to the SEC?

    Terw isn't a team out there who closed everyine they pursued. Not Bama,not Oregon, not anyone.
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937
    chuck said:

    Bread said:

    I count Asa as a decommit. Pretty doogish to ignore, Even if he did recommit later.

    That's an unsurprisingly stupid comment. He fucking signed didn't he?

    You, like a couple of other posters, are trying too hard to hold the old half brain line of "everything sucks, fire everyone".

    UW can't close? Did they not just close with two national recruits? Did they not close 2/3 last year, only missing one late Target to the SEC?

    Terw isn't a team out there who closed everyine they pursued. Not Bama,not Oregon, not anyone.
    Bama pretty much did. 24 blue chips holy fuck.
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,676 Swaye's Wigwam

    chuck said:

    Bread said:

    I count Asa as a decommit. Pretty doogish to ignore, Even if he did recommit later.

    That's an unsurprisingly stupid comment. He fucking signed didn't he?

    You, like a couple of other posters, are trying too hard to hold the old half brain line of "everything sucks, fire everyone".

    UW can't close? Did they not just close with two national recruits? Did they not close 2/3 last year, only missing one late Target to the SEC?

    Terw isn't a team out there who closed everyine they pursued. Not Bama,not Oregon, not anyone.
    Bama pretty much did. 24 blue chips holy fuck.
    They did t get Heimuli or To'oto'o.
  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    chuck said:

    Bread said:

    I count Asa as a decommit. Pretty doogish to ignore, Even if he did recommit later.

    That's an unsurprisingly stupid comment. He fucking signed didn't he?

    You, like a couple of other posters, are trying too hard to hold the old half brain line of "everything sucks, fire everyone".

    UW can't close? Did they not just close with two national recruits? Did they not close 2/3 last year, only missing one late Target to the SEC?

    Terw isn't a team out there who closed everyine they pursued. Not Bama,not Oregon, not anyone.
    Jesus you are a bell ringing 5'11" mongoloid

    They didnt close on anyone but the bare minimum of expectations... Keeping a guy who commited 9+ months ago and Hammer who commited a month ago and basically all other schools stopped seriously recruiting.

    Thats the fucking bar for closing well now? Fuck the fuck off.

    Its the equivalent of going 10-3 and losing the Rose bowl when a real opponent shows up. Its good... but we didnt FINISH.

    Look at the entire position group. We got beat for Ngata, Bru, Ford, and THEN Nucua at WR... It wasnt just ho-hum, we missed on one guy, unlucky. Which is why the failure to close on Nucua is such a big deal. Especially when its losing to Oregon who doesn't have a WR coach, has been shit for the past 3 years, and already has 50 other WR commits.

    Why aren't we ever the ones to overcome odds and upset a favored opponent or win the big game? Because we dont close. Lake is the only one with the Ted Bundy killer instinct.

    Closers steal other people's lunch money, not get their lunch money stolen.
  • whuggy
    whuggy Member Posts: 2,088
    chuck said:

    chuck said:

    Bread said:

    I count Asa as a decommit. Pretty doogish to ignore, Even if he did recommit later.

    That's an unsurprisingly stupid comment. He fucking signed didn't he?

    You, like a couple of other posters, are trying too hard to hold the old half brain line of "everything sucks, fire everyone".

    UW can't close? Did they not just close with two national recruits? Did they not close 2/3 last year, only missing one late Target to the SEC?

    Terw isn't a team out there who closed everyine they pursued. Not Bama,not Oregon, not anyone.
    Bama pretty much did. 24 blue chips holy fuck.
    They did t get Heimuli or To'oto'o.
    chuck said:

    chuck said:

    Bread said:

    I count Asa as a decommit. Pretty doogish to ignore, Even if he did recommit later.

    That's an unsurprisingly stupid comment. He fucking signed didn't he?

    You, like a couple of other posters, are trying too hard to hold the old half brain line of "everything sucks, fire everyone".

    UW can't close? Did they not just close with two national recruits? Did they not close 2/3 last year, only missing one late Target to the SEC?

    Terw isn't a team out there who closed everyine they pursued. Not Bama,not Oregon, not anyone.
    Bama pretty much did. 24 blue chips holy fuck.
    They did t get Heimuli or To'oto'o.
    Is it August already?
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,676 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited February 2019
    Houhusky said:

    chuck said:

    Bread said:

    I count Asa as a decommit. Pretty doogish to ignore, Even if he did recommit later.

    That's an unsurprisingly stupid comment. He fucking signed didn't he?

    You, like a couple of other posters, are trying too hard to hold the old half brain line of "everything sucks, fire everyone".

    UW can't close? Did they not just close with two national recruits? Did they not close 2/3 last year, only missing one late Target to the SEC?

    Terw isn't a team out there who closed everyine they pursued. Not Bama,not Oregon, not anyone.
    Jesus you are a bell ringing 5'11" mongoloid

    They didnt close on anyone but the bare minimum of expectations... Keeping a guy who commited 9+ months ago and Hammer who commited a month ago and basically all other schools stopped seriously recruiting.

    Thats the fucking bar for closing well now? Fuck the fuck off.

    Its the equivalent of going 10-3 and losing the Rose bowl when a real opponent shows up. Its good... but we didnt FINISH.

    Look at the entire position group. We got beat for Ngata, Bru, Ford, and THEN Nucua at WR... It wasnt just ho-hum, we missed on one guy, unlucky. Which is why the failure to close on Nucua is such a big deal. Especially when its losing to Oregon who doesn't have a WR coach, has been shit for the past 3 years, and already has 50 other WR commits.

    Why aren't we ever the ones to overcome odds and upset a favored opponent or win the big game? Because we dont close. Lake is the only one with the Ted Bundy killer instinct.

    Closers steal other people's lunch money, not get their lunch money stolen.
    You're the worst here. It's not a HH one-up contest anymore idiot.Ain't over till they sign. Those guys weren't signed until today. You wanted UW to steal Nacua from his SC soft commit, and To'oto'o when he's been all over the sec for weeks or months. Rumors notwithstanding he was never UWs to lose, nor was Nacua.
  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113
    edited February 2019
    Bread said:

    I count Asa as a decommit. Pretty doogish to ignore, Even if he did recommit later.

    For all we know half of the class did the same as Asa but just earlier in the process. Asa's shit became public only because it happened around signing day.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,817 Founders Club
    Houhusky said:

    chuck said:

    Bread said:

    I count Asa as a decommit. Pretty doogish to ignore, Even if he did recommit later.

    That's an unsurprisingly stupid comment. He fucking signed didn't he?

    You, like a couple of other posters, are trying too hard to hold the old half brain line of "everything sucks, fire everyone".

    UW can't close? Did they not just close with two national recruits? Did they not close 2/3 last year, only missing one late Target to the SEC?

    Terw isn't a team out there who closed everyine they pursued. Not Bama,not Oregon, not anyone.
    Jesus you are a bell ringing 5'11" mongoloid

    They didnt close on anyone but the bare minimum of expectations... Keeping a guy who commited 9+ months ago and Hammer who commited a month ago and basically all other schools stopped seriously recruiting.

    Thats the fucking bar for closing well now? Fuck the fuck off.

    Its the equivalent of going 10-3 and losing the Rose bowl when a real opponent shows up. Its good... but we didnt FINISH.

    Look at the entire position group. We got beat for Ngata, Bru, Ford, and THEN Nucua at WR... It wasnt just ho-hum, we missed on one guy, unlucky. Which is why the failure to close on Nucua is such a big deal. Especially when its losing to Oregon who doesn't have a WR coach, has been shit for the past 3 years, and already has 50 other WR commits.

    Why aren't we ever the ones to overcome odds and upset a favored opponent or win the big game? Because we dont close. Lake is the only one with the Ted Bundy killer instinct.

    Closers steal other people's lunch money, not get their lunch money stolen.
    FREEDOM
  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537

    Bread said:

    I count Asa as a decommit. Pretty doogish to ignore, Even if he did recommit later.

    For all we know half of the class did the same as Asa but just earlier in the process. Asa's shit became public only because it happened around signing day.
    Asa also never committed anywhere else.
    Some Schrodinger's Asa here

    Get credit for closing Asa late because he decommitted and we beat off Notre Dame on signing day when he literally had Notre Dame's paper to sign in front of him.

    Also; get credit for never losing Asa as a decommitment because he never decommit from his commitment 9+ months ago and never committed somewhere else.
  • Canadawg
    Canadawg Member Posts: 5,284
    Lake is the only one with the Ted Bundy killer instinct.

    😂

  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    edited February 2019
    Canadawg said:

    Lake is the only one with the Ted Bundy killer instinct.

    😂



    Ikaika had a better class, but sure
  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member Posts: 14,087
    Houhusky said:

    chuck said:

    Bread said:

    I count Asa as a decommit. Pretty doogish to ignore, Even if he did recommit later.

    That's an unsurprisingly stupid comment. He fucking signed didn't he?

    You, like a couple of other posters, are trying too hard to hold the old half brain line of "everything sucks, fire everyone".

    UW can't close? Did they not just close with two national recruits? Did they not close 2/3 last year, only missing one late Target to the SEC?

    Terw isn't a team out there who closed everyine they pursued. Not Bama,not Oregon, not anyone.
    Jesus you are a bell ringing 5'11" mongoloid

    They didnt close on anyone but the bare minimum of expectations... Keeping a guy who commited 9+ months ago and Hammer who commited a month ago and basically all other schools stopped seriously recruiting.

    Thats the fucking bar for closing well now? Fuck the fuck off.

    Its the equivalent of going 10-3 and losing the Rose bowl when a real opponent shows up. Its good... but we didnt FINISH.

    Look at the entire position group. We got beat for Ngata, Bru, Ford, and THEN Nucua at WR... It wasnt just ho-hum, we missed on one guy, unlucky. Which is why the failure to close on Nucua is such a big deal. Especially when its losing to Oregon who doesn't have a WR coach, has been shit for the past 3 years, and already has 50 other WR commits.

    Why aren't we ever the ones to overcome odds and upset a favored opponent or win the big game? Because we dont close. Lake is the only one with the Ted Bundy killer instinct.

    Closers steal other people's lunch money, not get their lunch money stolen.
    This. Dis. ‘Tis. 💯

    Fuck off chuck
  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537

    Houhusky said:

    chuck said:

    Bread said:

    I count Asa as a decommit. Pretty doogish to ignore, Even if he did recommit later.

    That's an unsurprisingly stupid comment. He fucking signed didn't he?

    You, like a couple of other posters, are trying too hard to hold the old half brain line of "everything sucks, fire everyone".

    UW can't close? Did they not just close with two national recruits? Did they not close 2/3 last year, only missing one late Target to the SEC?

    Terw isn't a team out there who closed everyine they pursued. Not Bama,not Oregon, not anyone.
    Jesus you are a bell ringing 5'11" mongoloid

    They didnt close on anyone but the bare minimum of expectations... Keeping a guy who commited 9+ months ago and Hammer who commited a month ago and basically all other schools stopped seriously recruiting.

    Thats the fucking bar for closing well now? Fuck the fuck off.

    Its the equivalent of going 10-3 and losing the Rose bowl when a real opponent shows up. Its good... but we didnt FINISH.

    Look at the entire position group. We got beat for Ngata, Bru, Ford, and THEN Nucua at WR... It wasnt just ho-hum, we missed on one guy, unlucky. Which is why the failure to close on Nucua is such a big deal. Especially when its losing to Oregon who doesn't have a WR coach, has been shit for the past 3 years, and already has 50 other WR commits.

    Why aren't we ever the ones to overcome odds and upset a favored opponent or win the big game? Because we dont close. Lake is the only one with the Ted Bundy killer instinct.

    Closers steal other people's lunch money, not get their lunch money stolen.
    Malloe doesn't have a killer instinct?

    Fuck outta here.

    It's not about when you get them it's about who you get.
    He is also responsible for the fact we basically have zero depth on the DL... He was below mediocre as a recruiter every year before this year.

    Next year we have one Jr. in Levi, and basically the rest are going to be freshman.

    Malloe did a great job this year...

    You will excuse me before I crown his ass


  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165

    chuck said:

    Bread said:

    I count Asa as a decommit. Pretty doogish to ignore, Even if he did recommit later.

    That's an unsurprisingly stupid comment. He fucking signed didn't he?

    You, like a couple of other posters, are trying too hard to hold the old half brain line of "everything sucks, fire everyone".

    UW can't close? Did they not just close with two national recruits? Did they not close 2/3 last year, only missing one late Target to the SEC?

    Terw isn't a team out there who closed everyine they pursued. Not Bama,not Oregon, not anyone.
    Bama pretty much did. 24 blue chips holy fuck.
    Florida stole a 4 star linebacker from Bama literally this morning. And then they lost on a few other targets. Nobody is immune.
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    Can we just lock @Houhusky and @StrongArmCobra in a room so they can kill each other? These end of the spectrum lunatics are a bit much.
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,676 Swaye's Wigwam

    Houhusky said:

    chuck said:

    Bread said:

    I count Asa as a decommit. Pretty doogish to ignore, Even if he did recommit later.

    That's an unsurprisingly stupid comment. He fucking signed didn't he?

    You, like a couple of other posters, are trying too hard to hold the old half brain line of "everything sucks, fire everyone".

    UW can't close? Did they not just close with two national recruits? Did they not close 2/3 last year, only missing one late Target to the SEC?

    Terw isn't a team out there who closed everyine they pursued. Not Bama,not Oregon, not anyone.
    Jesus you are a bell ringing 5'11" mongoloid

    They didnt close on anyone but the bare minimum of expectations... Keeping a guy who commited 9+ months ago and Hammer who commited a month ago and basically all other schools stopped seriously recruiting.

    Thats the fucking bar for closing well now? Fuck the fuck off.

    Its the equivalent of going 10-3 and losing the Rose bowl when a real opponent shows up. Its good... but we didnt FINISH.

    Look at the entire position group. We got beat for Ngata, Bru, Ford, and THEN Nucua at WR... It wasnt just ho-hum, we missed on one guy, unlucky. Which is why the failure to close on Nucua is such a big deal. Especially when its losing to Oregon who doesn't have a WR coach, has been shit for the past 3 years, and already has 50 other WR commits.

    Why aren't we ever the ones to overcome odds and upset a favored opponent or win the big game? Because we dont close. Lake is the only one with the Ted Bundy killer instinct.

    Closers steal other people's lunch money, not get their lunch money stolen.
    This. Dis. ‘Tis. 💯

    Fuck off chuck
    Sure I'll fuck off. Not going to keep up the pissing match.

    Just consider one thing. Half of his rant was built around the given that the big guys were stealing recruits from UW...getting "their lunch money stolen". My point was that nobody stole UWs lunch money. Nobody stole anyone from UW in this cycle other than Ngata.
  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    edited February 2019

    Houhusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    chuck said:

    Bread said:

    I count Asa as a decommit. Pretty doogish to ignore, Even if he did recommit later.

    That's an unsurprisingly stupid comment. He fucking signed didn't he?

    You, like a couple of other posters, are trying too hard to hold the old half brain line of "everything sucks, fire everyone".

    UW can't close? Did they not just close with two national recruits? Did they not close 2/3 last year, only missing one late Target to the SEC?

    Terw isn't a team out there who closed everyine they pursued. Not Bama,not Oregon, not anyone.
    Jesus you are a bell ringing 5'11" mongoloid

    They didnt close on anyone but the bare minimum of expectations... Keeping a guy who commited 9+ months ago and Hammer who commited a month ago and basically all other schools stopped seriously recruiting.

    Thats the fucking bar for closing well now? Fuck the fuck off.

    Its the equivalent of going 10-3 and losing the Rose bowl when a real opponent shows up. Its good... but we didnt FINISH.

    Look at the entire position group. We got beat for Ngata, Bru, Ford, and THEN Nucua at WR... It wasnt just ho-hum, we missed on one guy, unlucky. Which is why the failure to close on Nucua is such a big deal. Especially when its losing to Oregon who doesn't have a WR coach, has been shit for the past 3 years, and already has 50 other WR commits.

    Why aren't we ever the ones to overcome odds and upset a favored opponent or win the big game? Because we dont close. Lake is the only one with the Ted Bundy killer instinct.

    Closers steal other people's lunch money, not get their lunch money stolen.
    Malloe doesn't have a killer instinct?

    Fuck outta here.

    It's not about when you get them it's about who you get.
    He is also responsible for the fact we basically have zero depth on the DL... He was below mediocre as a recruiter every year before this year.

    Next year we have one Jr. in Levi, and basically the rest are going to be freshman.

    Malloe did a great job this year...

    You will excuse me before I crown his ass


    My bad, I didn't realize you didn't follow recruiting last season. I'll remember not to engage you next time.
    Last year he recruited 1 interior DL, immediately after not signing a single interior DL 2017 and only signing one in 2016



    2016: Zero recruits from his region, one positional recruit in Levi
    2017: One recruit from his region (Ty Jones), one positional recruit in Joe Tryon beating out WSU and EWU
    2018 he did better (not that you could do much worse than before)

    3 star Zion - beat Cal and vanderbilt and again under recruited DL with only Tuli and Mosiah

    I don't know WTF you guys are talking about with some revisionist history? This is exactly what @RoadDawg55 and @Dennis_DeYoung were always arguing about, that Malloe was doing a shitty job recruiting but was obvious a good coach because he was still getting results. Was that enough or sustainable? Process or results?

    The idea that Malloe is some great recruiter is literally new, just this recruiting class.
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    Houhusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    chuck said:

    Bread said:

    I count Asa as a decommit. Pretty doogish to ignore, Even if he did recommit later.

    That's an unsurprisingly stupid comment. He fucking signed didn't he?

    You, like a couple of other posters, are trying too hard to hold the old half brain line of "everything sucks, fire everyone".

    UW can't close? Did they not just close with two national recruits? Did they not close 2/3 last year, only missing one late Target to the SEC?

    Terw isn't a team out there who closed everyine they pursued. Not Bama,not Oregon, not anyone.
    Jesus you are a bell ringing 5'11" mongoloid

    They didnt close on anyone but the bare minimum of expectations... Keeping a guy who commited 9+ months ago and Hammer who commited a month ago and basically all other schools stopped seriously recruiting.

    Thats the fucking bar for closing well now? Fuck the fuck off.

    Its the equivalent of going 10-3 and losing the Rose bowl when a real opponent shows up. Its good... but we didnt FINISH.

    Look at the entire position group. We got beat for Ngata, Bru, Ford, and THEN Nucua at WR... It wasnt just ho-hum, we missed on one guy, unlucky. Which is why the failure to close on Nucua is such a big deal. Especially when its losing to Oregon who doesn't have a WR coach, has been shit for the past 3 years, and already has 50 other WR commits.

    Why aren't we ever the ones to overcome odds and upset a favored opponent or win the big game? Because we dont close. Lake is the only one with the Ted Bundy killer instinct.

    Closers steal other people's lunch money, not get their lunch money stolen.
    Malloe doesn't have a killer instinct?

    Fuck outta here.

    It's not about when you get them it's about who you get.
    He is also responsible for the fact we basically have zero depth on the DL... He was below mediocre as a recruiter every year before this year.

    Next year we have one Jr. in Levi, and basically the rest are going to be freshman.

    Malloe did a great job this year...

    You will excuse me before I crown his ass


    My bad, I didn't realize you didn't follow recruiting last season. I'll remember not to engage you next time.
    Last year he recruited 1 interior DL, immediately after not signing a single interior DL 2017 and only signing one in 2016



    2016: Zero recruits from his region, one positional recruit in Levi
    2017: One recruit from his region (Ty Jones), one positional recruit in Joe Tryon beating out WSU and EWU
    2018 he did better (not that you could do much worse than before)

    3 star Zion - beat Cal and vanderbilt and again under recruited DL with only Tuli and Mosiah

    I don't know WTF you guys are talking about with some revisionist history? This is exactly what @RoadDawg55 and @Dennis_DeYoung were always arguing about, that Malloe was doing a shitty job recruiting but was obvious a good coach because he was still getting results. Was that enough or sustainable? Process or results?

    The idea that Malloe is some great recruiter is literally new, just this recruiting class.
    Dude what parallel universe are you living in?