I had forgotten how long a stride D Wash has...if he gets to the second level of the defense, he's going to be murder on linebackers and secondary guys trying to get an angle on him.
How come the strongest o-lineman on the team -- by bench press -- are usually the worst?
I can't explain and this is how my high school football team was too. The guy who was always tops in the weight lifting shit like bench press always rode the pine.
lack of dexterity, I guess
really surprised Brostek is that strong though, holy shit
How come the strongest o-lineman on the team -- by bench press -- are usually the worst?
It's because bench press is overrated.
Don't worry though, just wait until Ivan gets ahold of them!
It's overrated if you're a teenage slapdick who benches & nothing else. For a Pac-12 o-lineman, assuming they don't skip leg day, it's very much functional strength.
How come the strongest o-lineman on the team -- by bench press -- are usually the worst?
It's because bench press is overrated.
Don't worry though, just wait until Ivan gets ahold of them!
It's overrated if you're a teenage slapdick who benches & nothing else. For a Pac-12 o-lineman, assuming they don't skip leg day, it's very much functional strength.
How come the strongest o-lineman on the team -- by bench press -- are usually the worst?
It's because bench press is overrated.
Don't worry though, just wait until Ivan gets ahold of them!
It's overrated if you're a teenage slapdick who benches & nothing else. For a Pac-12 o-lineman, assuming they don't skip leg day, it's very much functional strength.
If any of you twisters think I was down on D. Washington then there's some serious twisting going on and you need a long walk on the beach. I think he's a great prospect as a big hammer with breakaway speed. He just isn't quick enough laterally to create anything on his own until he gets through the line. I think you need another feature back that can create when the hole isn't where it's supposed to be.
PLSS tried to roll (as opposed to jump) all over my shit for saying we were in good shape at running back too. There's never been a surer indication that someone is correct than when that idiot gives his negative endorsement. Washington and Callier would be fine, but there's also the RS frosh and Cooper, who I still haven't given up on. Even if all of these guys were hurt they could still stick Thompson and/or Kendall Taylor back there and be functional at worst.
I didn't really remember all of Dwayne Washington's run this past season, but then I found a short highlight reel of his. I think he has immense talent and by the time PAC12 play comes around he will be the guy getting the bulk of the carries.
Bench press is probably useful for an OL in terms of run-blocking, but you need good pad level, feet shoulder width apart and great hips in order to utilize that strength in a positive manner. If you're too high, feet too far apart and your hips aren't fabulous, then you're gonna get bowled over and the defense is gonna get a TFL. Pass-blocking doesn't require strength as much as run-blocking and is more about keeping a defender in a certain space rather than moving the defender out of the way.
As for RB, I'm guessing it'll be 1a) Cooper 1b) Washington 3) Coleman and then Callier for fly-sweeps and catching passes out of the backfield. Kinne might get some garbage time against Hawaii, Georgia State, Colorado and Cal and Dotson will RS.
The bench press is an upper body exercise. The person performing the exercise lies on his or her back, lowers a weight to chest level, and then pushes it back up until the arms are straight. The exercise focuses on the development of the pectoralis major muscle as well as other supporting muscles including the anterior deltoids, serratus anterior, coracobrachialis, scapulae fixers, trapezii, and the triceps. The barbell bench press is one of three lifts in the sport of powerlifting and is used extensively in weight training, bodybuilding, and other types of lifting fitness training to develop the chest muscles.
Contents [hide] 1 History 2 Muscles 3 Variations 4 Possible injuries 5 See also 6 Notes History[edit] The bench press has evolved over the years, from floor, bridge, and belly toss variations to the methods used by bodybuilders and powerlifters today.
At first the strict floor press was the most popular method. In 1899, using a barbell with 19-inch discs (plates), George Hackenshmidt, inventor of the barbell hack squat, rolled a barbell over his face (which was turned to the side) and performed a strict floor press with 361 pounds. This stood as a record for 18 years until Joe Nordquest broke it by 2 pounds in 1916.
Around this time, new methods started gaining ground. Lifters started figuring out that strong glutes could help them get the bar from the ground to overhead. They would lie on the floor and position the bar over their abdomen, then perform an explosive glute bridge movement, catapulting the bar upwards and catching it at lockout.[1]
Muscles[edit] A conventional bench press uses pectoralis major muscle, anterior deltoid, coracobrachialis to horizontally adduct the shoulder. It also uses predominantly triceps brachii and anconeous to extend the elbows. Wider hand spacing places a greater emphasis on shoulder flexion and narrower hand spacing utilizes more elbow extension. Because of this, wider hand spacing is associated with training the pectorals and narrower hand spacing is associated with training the triceps.
In addition to the major phasic (dynamic) muscles the bench press also uses tonic (stabilizing) muscles: scapular stabilizers (serratus anterior, middle and inferior trapezius), humeral head stabilizers (rotator cuff muscles), and core (transverse abdominis, obliques, multifidus, erector spinae, quadratus lumborum)
Variations[edit] Question book-new.svg This section does not cite any references or sources. Please help improve this section by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. (July 2008) Variations of the bench press involve different groups of muscles, or involve the same muscles in different ways:
The flat bench press involves both portions of the pectoralis major muscle but focuses on the lower (sternal) head as well as the anterior deltoid muscle. The term 'bench press' on its own is assumed to refer to a flat bench press.[2] An incline elevates the shoulders and lowers the pelvis as if reclining in a chair; this variation emphasizes anterior deltoids with little emphasis at the upper (clavicular) head of the pectoralis major. This variation is called the incline bench press.[3] A decline bench press elevates the pelvis and lowers the head, and emphasizes the lower portion of the pectoralis major. A reverse grip bench press utilizes an underhand (supinated) grip on the bar. A supinated grip externally rotates the humerus, which puts the shoulders in a much more favorable position for the lift, decreasing injury potential without compromising range of motion. It emphasises the clavicular head of the pectoralis major more than an incline bench press. On the eccentric phase of the lift, the bar path will create a larger arc and eventually touch a point on the chest that is lower compared to the regular bench press, because the upper arms and elbows are closer to the body and the angle between the humerus and the torso is smaller.[4] A bench press performed with the hands close together ("close grip") relies on the triceps to complete the pressing motion.[5] A bench press performed with the hands far apart ("wide grip") shortens the range of motion, lessening the contribution of the triceps. A lifter can elect to lower the bar to nipple level, to the xiphoid process, or even further, to the abdomen. On the other hand, a lifter may lower the bar to a very high point on the chest, or even to the neck; the latter variation is called a guillotine press and emphasizes the upper pectorals. The bench press can be performed with various modifications to make the lifter or the weight less stable. Examples include lifting on a Swiss ball, using dumbbells instead of a barbell, or lifting with the legs on the bench or in the air The bench press can be performed with chains and bands, popularized in powerlifting by Westside Barbell. Chains and bands are used to strengthen the top end of the range of motion in the movement (the 'lockout') and develop explosive power in the bench press.[6] An 'equipped' bench press is performed with a stiff, supportive shirt that allows greater weights to be used. The materials and cut of the bench shirt, as well as the skill of the lifter and the rules of performance, will determine how much additional weight can be pressed in the shirt as opposed to without it. The contrast between equipped, and unequipped (raw) bench press weights is illustrated in the progression of the bench press world records, with the record equipped lift exceeding the unequipped lift by hundreds of pounds. Possible injuries[edit]
A man (lying down) performs a bench press with a spotter using a potentially dangerous thumbless grip. Question book-new.svg This section does not cite any references or sources. Please help improve this section by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. (July 2008) Performing the bench press can contribute to multiple types of injuries:
Torn ligaments/tendons in shoulders. Injuries to the trapezius muscle. Elbow/wrist strains. Cracked or broken ribs, usually the result of bouncing the bar off of the chest to add momentum to the lift or a loss of strength causing the bar to fall onto the chest. Distal clavicular osteolysis: bone spur or erosion at the end of the clavicle. Athletes suffering from this condition should avoid doing bench presses.[7] Torn or damaged rotator cuff. Hernias may occur if one bench presses too much weight, without the use of a weight belt. Death by asphyxiation by being trapped under the bar (several each year).[8] See also[edit] NFL Scouting Combine#Bench press records Progression of the bench press world record Push up Chin-up bar
The bench press is an upper body exercise. The person performing the exercise lies on his or her back, lowers a weight to chest level, and then pushes it back up until the arms are straight. The exercise focuses on the development of the pectoralis major muscle as well as other supporting muscles including the anterior deltoids, serratus anterior, coracobrachialis, scapulae fixers, trapezii, and the triceps. The barbell bench press is one of three lifts in the sport of powerlifting and is used extensively in weight training, bodybuilding, and other types of lifting fitness training to develop the chest muscles.
Contents [hide] 1 History 2 Muscles 3 Variations 4 Possible injuries 5 See also 6 Notes History[edit] The bench press has evolved over the years, from floor, bridge, and belly toss variations to the methods used by bodybuilders and powerlifters today.
At first the strict floor press was the most popular method. In 1899, using a barbell with 19-inch discs (plates), George Hackenshmidt, inventor of the barbell hack squat, rolled a barbell over his face (which was turned to the side) and performed a strict floor press with 361 pounds. This stood as a record for 18 years until Joe Nordquest broke it by 2 pounds in 1916.
Around this time, new methods started gaining ground. Lifters started figuring out that strong glutes could help them get the bar from the ground to overhead. They would lie on the floor and position the bar over their abdomen, then perform an explosive glute bridge movement, catapulting the bar upwards and catching it at lockout.[1]
Muscles[edit] A conventional bench press uses pectoralis major muscle, anterior deltoid, coracobrachialis to horizontally adduct the shoulder. It also uses predominantly triceps brachii and anconeous to extend the elbows. Wider hand spacing places a greater emphasis on shoulder flexion and narrower hand spacing utilizes more elbow extension. Because of this, wider hand spacing is associated with training the pectorals and narrower hand spacing is associated with training the triceps.
In addition to the major phasic (dynamic) muscles the bench press also uses tonic (stabilizing) muscles: scapular stabilizers (serratus anterior, middle and inferior trapezius), humeral head stabilizers (rotator cuff muscles), and core (transverse abdominis, obliques, multifidus, erector spinae, quadratus lumborum)
Variations[edit] Question book-new.svg This section does not cite any references or sources. Please help improve this section by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. (July 2008) Variations of the bench press involve different groups of muscles, or involve the same muscles in different ways:
The flat bench press involves both portions of the pectoralis major muscle but focuses on the lower (sternal) head as well as the anterior deltoid muscle. The term 'bench press' on its own is assumed to refer to a flat bench press.[2] An incline elevates the shoulders and lowers the pelvis as if reclining in a chair; this variation emphasizes anterior deltoids with little emphasis at the upper (clavicular) head of the pectoralis major. This variation is called the incline bench press.[3] A decline bench press elevates the pelvis and lowers the head, and emphasizes the lower portion of the pectoralis major. A reverse grip bench press utilizes an underhand (supinated) grip on the bar. A supinated grip externally rotates the humerus, which puts the shoulders in a much more favorable position for the lift, decreasing injury potential without compromising range of motion. It emphasises the clavicular head of the pectoralis major more than an incline bench press. On the eccentric phase of the lift, the bar path will create a larger arc and eventually touch a point on the chest that is lower compared to the regular bench press, because the upper arms and elbows are closer to the body and the angle between the humerus and the torso is smaller.[4] A bench press performed with the hands close together ("close grip") relies on the triceps to complete the pressing motion.[5] A bench press performed with the hands far apart ("wide grip") shortens the range of motion, lessening the contribution of the triceps. A lifter can elect to lower the bar to nipple level, to the xiphoid process, or even further, to the abdomen. On the other hand, a lifter may lower the bar to a very high point on the chest, or even to the neck; the latter variation is called a guillotine press and emphasizes the upper pectorals. The bench press can be performed with various modifications to make the lifter or the weight less stable. Examples include lifting on a Swiss ball, using dumbbells instead of a barbell, or lifting with the legs on the bench or in the air The bench press can be performed with chains and bands, popularized in powerlifting by Westside Barbell. Chains and bands are used to strengthen the top end of the range of motion in the movement (the 'lockout') and develop explosive power in the bench press.[6] An 'equipped' bench press is performed with a stiff, supportive shirt that allows greater weights to be used. The materials and cut of the bench shirt, as well as the skill of the lifter and the rules of performance, will determine how much additional weight can be pressed in the shirt as opposed to without it. The contrast between equipped, and unequipped (raw) bench press weights is illustrated in the progression of the bench press world records, with the record equipped lift exceeding the unequipped lift by hundreds of pounds. Possible injuries[edit]
A man (lying down) performs a bench press with a spotter using a potentially dangerous thumbless grip. Question book-new.svg This section does not cite any references or sources. Please help improve this section by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. (July 2008) Performing the bench press can contribute to multiple types of injuries:
Torn ligaments/tendons in shoulders. Injuries to the trapezius muscle. Elbow/wrist strains. Cracked or broken ribs, usually the result of bouncing the bar off of the chest to add momentum to the lift or a loss of strength causing the bar to fall onto the chest. Distal clavicular osteolysis: bone spur or erosion at the end of the clavicle. Athletes suffering from this condition should avoid doing bench presses.[7] Torn or damaged rotator cuff. Hernias may occur if one bench presses too much weight, without the use of a weight belt. Death by asphyxiation by being trapped under the bar (several each year).[8] See also[edit] NFL Scouting Combine#Bench press records Progression of the bench press world record Push up Chin-up bar
Bench press is probably useful for an OL in terms of run-blocking, but you need good pad level, feet shoulder width apart and great hips in order to utilize that strength in a positive manner. If you're too high, feet too far apart and your hips aren't fabulous, then you're gonna get bowled over and the defense is gonna get a TFL. Pass-blocking doesn't require strength as much as run-blocking and is more about keeping a defender in a certain space rather than moving the defender out of the way.
As for RB, I'm guessing it'll be 1a) Cooper 1b) Washington 3) Coleman and then Callier for fly-sweeps and catching passes out of the backfield. Kinne might get some garbage time against Hawaii, Georgia State, Colorado and Cal and Dotson will RS.
Bench press is probably useful for an OL in terms of run-blocking, but you need good pad level, feet shoulder width apart and great hips in order to utilize that strength in a positive manner. If you're too high, feet too far apart and your hips aren't fabulous, then you're gonna get bowled over and the defense is gonna get a TFL. Pass-blocking doesn't require strength as much as run-blocking and is more about keeping a defender in a certain space rather than moving the defender out of the way.
As for RB, I'm guessing it'll be 1a) Cooper 1b) Washington 3) Coleman and then Callier for fly-sweeps and catching passes out of the backfield. Kinne might get some garbage time against Hawaii, Georgia State, Colorado and Cal and Dotson will RS.
But how is their snatch? Lol!1
Can they jerk more than snatch? What about clean? Does that come later?
These official* numbers seem to illustrate that Brostek could lift my car, and Ross is as fast as Deion.
In other news, I can hear some Euro's banging in the room next to mine.
BRB, JO
Which only goes to prove Sark left the cupboards stocked and if Peterman can't win the Pac-12 in his first year, he reeeeeeeally doesn't belong at this level.
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Don't worry though, just wait until Ivan gets ahold of them!
PLSS tried to roll (as opposed to jump) all over my shit for saying we were in good shape at running back too. There's never been a surer indication that someone is correct than when that idiot gives his negative endorsement. Washington and Callier would be fine, but there's also the RS frosh and Cooper, who I still haven't given up on. Even if all of these guys were hurt they could still stick Thompson and/or Kendall Taylor back there and be functional at worst.
As for RB, I'm guessing it'll be 1a) Cooper 1b) Washington 3) Coleman and then Callier for fly-sweeps and catching passes out of the backfield. Kinne might get some garbage time against Hawaii, Georgia State, Colorado and Cal and Dotson will RS.
Contents [hide]
1 History
2 Muscles
3 Variations
4 Possible injuries
5 See also
6 Notes
History[edit]
The bench press has evolved over the years, from floor, bridge, and belly toss variations to the methods used by bodybuilders and powerlifters today.
At first the strict floor press was the most popular method. In 1899, using a barbell with 19-inch discs (plates), George Hackenshmidt, inventor of the barbell hack squat, rolled a barbell over his face (which was turned to the side) and performed a strict floor press with 361 pounds. This stood as a record for 18 years until Joe Nordquest broke it by 2 pounds in 1916.
Around this time, new methods started gaining ground. Lifters started figuring out that strong glutes could help them get the bar from the ground to overhead. They would lie on the floor and position the bar over their abdomen, then perform an explosive glute bridge movement, catapulting the bar upwards and catching it at lockout.[1]
Muscles[edit]
A conventional bench press uses pectoralis major muscle, anterior deltoid, coracobrachialis to horizontally adduct the shoulder. It also uses predominantly triceps brachii and anconeous to extend the elbows. Wider hand spacing places a greater emphasis on shoulder flexion and narrower hand spacing utilizes more elbow extension. Because of this, wider hand spacing is associated with training the pectorals and narrower hand spacing is associated with training the triceps.
In addition to the major phasic (dynamic) muscles the bench press also uses tonic (stabilizing) muscles: scapular stabilizers (serratus anterior, middle and inferior trapezius), humeral head stabilizers (rotator cuff muscles), and core (transverse abdominis, obliques, multifidus, erector spinae, quadratus lumborum)
Variations[edit]
Question book-new.svg
This section does not cite any references or sources. Please help improve this section by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. (July 2008)
Variations of the bench press involve different groups of muscles, or involve the same muscles in different ways:
The flat bench press involves both portions of the pectoralis major muscle but focuses on the lower (sternal) head as well as the anterior deltoid muscle. The term 'bench press' on its own is assumed to refer to a flat bench press.[2]
An incline elevates the shoulders and lowers the pelvis as if reclining in a chair; this variation emphasizes anterior deltoids with little emphasis at the upper (clavicular) head of the pectoralis major. This variation is called the incline bench press.[3]
A decline bench press elevates the pelvis and lowers the head, and emphasizes the lower portion of the pectoralis major.
A reverse grip bench press utilizes an underhand (supinated) grip on the bar. A supinated grip externally rotates the humerus, which puts the shoulders in a much more favorable position for the lift, decreasing injury potential without compromising range of motion. It emphasises the clavicular head of the pectoralis major more than an incline bench press. On the eccentric phase of the lift, the bar path will create a larger arc and eventually touch a point on the chest that is lower compared to the regular bench press, because the upper arms and elbows are closer to the body and the angle between the humerus and the torso is smaller.[4]
A bench press performed with the hands close together ("close grip") relies on the triceps to complete the pressing motion.[5]
A bench press performed with the hands far apart ("wide grip") shortens the range of motion, lessening the contribution of the triceps.
A lifter can elect to lower the bar to nipple level, to the xiphoid process, or even further, to the abdomen. On the other hand, a lifter may lower the bar to a very high point on the chest, or even to the neck; the latter variation is called a guillotine press and emphasizes the upper pectorals.
The bench press can be performed with various modifications to make the lifter or the weight less stable. Examples include lifting on a Swiss ball, using dumbbells instead of a barbell, or lifting with the legs on the bench or in the air
The bench press can be performed with chains and bands, popularized in powerlifting by Westside Barbell. Chains and bands are used to strengthen the top end of the range of motion in the movement (the 'lockout') and develop explosive power in the bench press.[6]
An 'equipped' bench press is performed with a stiff, supportive shirt that allows greater weights to be used. The materials and cut of the bench shirt, as well as the skill of the lifter and the rules of performance, will determine how much additional weight can be pressed in the shirt as opposed to without it. The contrast between equipped, and unequipped (raw) bench press weights is illustrated in the progression of the bench press world records, with the record equipped lift exceeding the unequipped lift by hundreds of pounds.
Possible injuries[edit]
A man (lying down) performs a bench press with a spotter using a potentially dangerous thumbless grip.
Question book-new.svg
This section does not cite any references or sources. Please help improve this section by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. (July 2008)
Performing the bench press can contribute to multiple types of injuries:
Torn ligaments/tendons in shoulders.
Injuries to the trapezius muscle.
Elbow/wrist strains.
Cracked or broken ribs, usually the result of bouncing the bar off of the chest to add momentum to the lift or a loss of strength causing the bar to fall onto the chest.
Distal clavicular osteolysis: bone spur or erosion at the end of the clavicle. Athletes suffering from this condition should avoid doing bench presses.[7]
Torn or damaged rotator cuff.
Hernias may occur if one bench presses too much weight, without the use of a weight belt.
Death by asphyxiation by being trapped under the bar (several each year).[8]
See also[edit]
NFL Scouting Combine#Bench press records
Progression of the bench press world record
Push up
Chin-up bar
Great hips>Squats
Nuff said