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  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

    Switzerland - $25 /hr minimum wage (soon), most businesses are closed several hours a day in the middle of the day, more than a month of paid vacation, better health, better standard of living. The squalor of the current system here could use some change. We can do better than this and it's embarrassing that we don't. Would you rather be toiling in a shithole factory for 7.95 a hour with one week of paid vacation per year, or working in cheese hut with the cool mountain breeze, the sound of cowbells and crackling of avalanches on the pristine mountains right outside your doorstep. And without getting some fucking disease that some of these pig corporations will give you with the chemicals they use in their factories. But hey, at least you can sue them when you're 65 and dying in the hospital.

    Huh?

    Switzerland does not currently have a minimum wage.

    Switzerland has more economic freedom than the USA. A state mandated minimum wage is a step back for them. Simple fact.
    Switzerland's been doing it right for longer than America's been in existence. This will only separate them from the pack even more. Last time I checked, the franc was more valuable than the dollar. Used to be the other way around.

    That's what economic freedom (and a small homogeneous population) will do for a country. State price floors on wages will be a setback for them.
    Looks like we'll find out soon and the argument can be settled on the field and not in the poles.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited May 2014

    Switzerland - $25 /hr minimum wage (soon), most businesses are closed several hours a day in the middle of the day, more than a month of paid vacation, better health, better standard of living. The squalor of the current system here could use some change. We can do better than this and it's embarrassing that we don't. Would you rather be toiling in a shithole factory for 7.95 a hour with one week of paid vacation per year, or working in cheese hut with the cool mountain breeze, the sound of cowbells and crackling of avalanches on the pristine mountains right outside your doorstep. And without getting some fucking disease that some of these pig corporations will give you with the chemicals they use in their factories. But hey, at least you can sue them when you're 65 and dying in the hospital.

    Huh?

    Switzerland does not currently have a minimum wage.

    Switzerland has more economic freedom than the USA. A state mandated minimum wage is a step back for them. Simple fact.
    Switzerland's been doing it right for longer than America's been in existence. This will only separate them from the pack even more. Last time I checked, the franc was more valuable than the dollar. Used to be the other way around.

    That's what economic freedom (and a small homogeneous population) will do for a country. State price floors on wages will be a setback for them.
    Looks like we'll find out soon and the argument can be settled on the field and not in the poles.
    They fact that they are more economically free and their demographics are already settled. Economic freedom and standard of living are highly correlated. (Causation?)
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited May 2014

    Switzerland - $25 /hr minimum wage (soon), most businesses are closed several hours a day in the middle of the day, more than a month of paid vacation, better health, better standard of living. The squalor of the current system here could use some change. We can do better than this and it's embarrassing that we don't. Would you rather be toiling in a shithole factory for 7.95 a hour with one week of paid vacation per year, or working in cheese hut with the cool mountain breeze, the sound of cowbells and crackling of avalanches on the pristine mountains right outside your doorstep. And without getting some fucking disease that some of these pig corporations will give you with the chemicals they use in their factories. But hey, at least you can sue them when you're 65 and dying in the hospital.

    Huh?

    Switzerland does not currently have a minimum wage.

    Switzerland has more economic freedom than the USA. A state mandated minimum wage is a step back for them. Simple fact.
    Switzerland's been doing it right for longer than America's been in existence. This will only separate them from the pack even more. Last time I checked, the franc was more valuable than the dollar. Used to be the other way around.

    That's what economic freedom (and a small homogeneous population) will do for a country. State price floors on wages will be a setback for them.
    Looks like we'll find out soon and the argument can be settled on the field and not in the poles.
    They fact that they are more economically free and their demographics are already settled. Economic freedom and standard of living are highly correlated. (Causation?)
    I don't think I would call their population homogeneous. More so than here. But half the country speaks mainly German, the other half speaks French, and a small portion Italian. Economic freedom must also include the freedom from being oppressed by the masters of the machine. Apparently something is wrong there, otherwise they wouldn't be voting on a minimum wage.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited May 2014

    Switzerland - $25 /hr minimum wage (soon), most businesses are closed several hours a day in the middle of the day, more than a month of paid vacation, better health, better standard of living. The squalor of the current system here could use some change. We can do better than this and it's embarrassing that we don't. Would you rather be toiling in a shithole factory for 7.95 a hour with one week of paid vacation per year, or working in cheese hut with the cool mountain breeze, the sound of cowbells and crackling of avalanches on the pristine mountains right outside your doorstep. And without getting some fucking disease that some of these pig corporations will give you with the chemicals they use in their factories. But hey, at least you can sue them when you're 65 and dying in the hospital.

    Huh?

    Switzerland does not currently have a minimum wage.

    Switzerland has more economic freedom than the USA. A state mandated minimum wage is a step back for them. Simple fact.
    Switzerland's been doing it right for longer than America's been in existence. This will only separate them from the pack even more. Last time I checked, the franc was more valuable than the dollar. Used to be the other way around.

    That's what economic freedom (and a small homogeneous population) will do for a country. State price floors on wages will be a setback for them.
    Looks like we'll find out soon and the argument can be settled on the field and not in the poles.
    They fact that they are more economically free and their demographics are already settled. Economic freedom and standard of living are highly correlated. (Causation?)
    I don't think I would call their population homogeneous. More so than here. But half the country speaks mainly German, the other half speaks French, and a small portion Italian. Economic freedom must also include the freedom from being oppressed by the masters of the machine. Apparently something is wrong there, otherwise they wouldn't be voting on a minimum wage.
    You don't know what economic freedom means? Or what a homogenous population means. Do some research on economic freedom and we can have an intelligent conversation.

    Btw. Switzerland has about the same number of people as Washington state. They are white, Western Europeans.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

    Switzerland - $25 /hr minimum wage (soon), most businesses are closed several hours a day in the middle of the day, more than a month of paid vacation, better health, better standard of living. The squalor of the current system here could use some change. We can do better than this and it's embarrassing that we don't. Would you rather be toiling in a shithole factory for 7.95 a hour with one week of paid vacation per year, or working in cheese hut with the cool mountain breeze, the sound of cowbells and crackling of avalanches on the pristine mountains right outside your doorstep. And without getting some fucking disease that some of these pig corporations will give you with the chemicals they use in their factories. But hey, at least you can sue them when you're 65 and dying in the hospital.

    Huh?

    Switzerland does not currently have a minimum wage.

    Switzerland has more economic freedom than the USA. A state mandated minimum wage is a step back for them. Simple fact.
    Switzerland's been doing it right for longer than America's been in existence. This will only separate them from the pack even more. Last time I checked, the franc was more valuable than the dollar. Used to be the other way around.

    That's what economic freedom (and a small homogeneous population) will do for a country. State price floors on wages will be a setback for them.
    Looks like we'll find out soon and the argument can be settled on the field and not in the poles.
    They fact that they are more economically free and their demographics are already settled. Economic freedom and standard of living are highly correlated. (Causation?)
    I don't think I would call their population homogeneous. More so than here. But half the country speaks mainly German, the other half speaks French, and a small portion Italian. Economic freedom must also include the freedom from being oppressed by the masters of the machine. Apparently something is wrong there, otherwise they wouldn't be voting on a minimum wage.
    You don't know what economic freedom means? Or what a homogenous population means. Do some research on economic freedom and we can have an intelligent conversation.

    Btw. Switzerland has about the same number of people as Washington state. They are white, Western Europeans.
    Economic freedom is not so easily defined. For some, it's the freedom to oppress others through the machinery of a system, while accumulating a disproportionate horde of gold from a limited supply. The Swiss are homogenous in their race but not in their culture.
  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,703 Founders Club
    This thread is full of lols, washington is so fucked, deserves another owentwelve
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,429 Founders Club
    My college roommate went to Switzerland through foreign exchange twice and would not stop talking about it. They are so isolated it's hard to compare them to any other country in the world. OBK I understand where you're coming from but to me economic freedom also means that if your "pig of an employer" is really being that shitty then you simply go back to school, move, or do what you need to do to get a better job. If the employer is losing labor because of that they will increase the pay/benefits to make the job tolerable or else risk going out of business. Of course if they're being taxed to death they can't do anything about it.