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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,232
    Paxton + Walker >>> Young + Elias

    Do you not agree with that?
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,500
    Tequilla said:

    Paxton + Walker >>> Young + Elias

    Do you not agree with that?

    I don't think you can say that because Paxton and Walker have hardly played. Young and Elias haven't been bad so far this season. Walker has only played 3 games, lets wait until he actually fucking plays before we start crowning him the next big thing. He has a 3.60 ERA in his 3 starts last year, whooptie do hardy har har.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,428 Standard Supporter
    dhdawg said:

    the pen is my biggest concern. The offense will be up and down all year, and I agree (although roaddawg is gonna tell me I'm wrong) that the pitching rotation is a strength.

    Rodney will be good for the most part, and Fahrquar and Leone seem to both be solid middle relievers. But they need a big time setup man to just come out of the blue, Stephen pryor? They may have to pursue a trade as well

    I might have to eat my words on the rotation. The 1-2 is obviously really good, maybe the best in the league. Young has been great so far and was a good pick up. Elias seems to be at least average, and if Walker and Paxton live up to the hype, that's a damn good rotation. I should have believed you.

    I haven't watched an inning of Mariner baseball for probably 5 years, so I really don't know what I'm talking about. I only read the box scores and maybe the Mariners blog on the Times 1-2 times a week. I still think they will have an 8-20 month to end the season. I'm predicting June.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    I'm not even going to count on walker right now.
    Felix kuma Paxton Elias young is a good rotation. Adding walker would be a bonus. Even though I am far from sold on young
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 11,453
    Young is 3-0 with a 2.67 ERA which looks great on paper. However his XFIP is 4.80.

    On the flip side Mauer has a 6.20 ERA but his XFIP is 4.13 so he's been getting a little unlucky while Young has been getting lucky.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    Exactly why I'm not sold on young. He's gonna have a nasty ERA correction. Hopefully it's only one awful start and it only costs the m's one game
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,500
    I'm not sold on Young either but he isn't a terrible #4 or 5 guy to have right now. I just am not sold on Walker because the 3 games he has played he has looked solid but not the next Pedro Martinez like all the Moorinoors are saying. Who cares how good you are if your arm is going to fall off.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,428 Standard Supporter
    Young might not be bad. He used to be a pretty good #2/3 starter. He didn't pitch last year. He wouldn't be the first guy to come back and succeed after having arm troubles and sitting out a year. Who knows how he will do the rest of the year, but right now, he could be better than Walker. He's been around awhile and probably knows how to pitch.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855

    Young is 3-0 with a 2.67 ERA which looks great on paper. However his XFIP is 4.80.

    On the flip side Mauer has a 6.20 ERA but his XFIP is 4.13 so he's been getting a little unlucky while Young has been getting lucky.

    Young's not as good as his ERA but he's almost certainly better than his FIP. He's been posting the lowest BABIPs in the league for years. It's past the point if being a fluke, his rising fastball induces weak contact.

    Elias might be legitimately good.

    The Ms have an abundance of starting candidates, which is good since rotations rarely stay healthy.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855

    Young is 3-0 with a 2.67 ERA which looks great on paper. However his XFIP is 4.80.

    On the flip side Mauer has a 6.20 ERA but his XFIP is 4.13 so he's been getting a little unlucky while Young has been getting lucky.

    Young's not as good as his ERA but he's almost certainly better than his FIP. He's been posting the lowest BABIPs in the league for years. It's past the point if being a fluke, his rising fastball induces weak contact.

    Elias might be legitimately good.

    The Ms have an abundance of starting candidates, which is good since rotations rarely stay healthy.