I knew the Mariners would come around

CuntWaffle

First time they have been over .500 at this point of the season since 2003. Buckle up it is going to be a special ride. They remind me a lot of the 95-96 Sonics.

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2011 on June 5th the team was 31-28. On July 5th they were 43-43. Then literally lost 17 fucking games in a row to finish 67-95.

That is always in the back of my head.

Tequilla

I'd be shocked if they ended up with 85-90 wins because they are the Mariners ... but they are definitely trending in that direction when you consider that they are still missing 2 of their better starting pitchers and if they are in the race in June/July, it wouldn't shock me if they added another arm or two in the bullpen to help out.

DugtheDoog

IIRC, in 2007 we were a game back of the wild card in mid-August and then absolutely imploded, finishing like 8 or 9 back.

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DugtheDoog said:

IIRC, in 2007 we were a game back of the wild card in mid-August and then absolutely imploded, finishing like 8 or 9 back.

We were like a game back in the division then lost 17 of 20 after that. It's the Mariners it's in their DNA. #NeverForget

CuntWaffle

Tequilla said:

I'd be shocked if they ended up with 85-90 wins because they are the Mariners ... but they are definitely trending in that direction when you consider that they are still missing 2 of their better starting pitchers and if they are in the race in June/July, it wouldn't shock me if they added another arm or two in the bullpen to help out.

Nah this is still all a mirage. Don't fall for the trap, they still suck.

It boggles my mind how Brad Miller is still on the team batting .160 and booting every fucking ball in critical moments of games. That guy blows, he swings at every pitch outside the strike zone and doesn't swing at first pitch fastballs over the middle of the plater.

McClendon sure is showing his great managerial skills by having Almonte up as long as he did after a shitty spring training and now Brad Miller is easily the worst SS in baseball yet he will probably play the whole season because he is young and we all know he will be hitting .400 once he learns what the fucking strike zone is.

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CuntWaffle said:

Tequilla said:

I'd be shocked if they ended up with 85-90 wins because they are the Mariners ... but they are definitely trending in that direction when you consider that they are still missing 2 of their better starting pitchers and if they are in the race in June/July, it wouldn't shock me if they added another arm or two in the bullpen to help out.

Nah this is still all a mirage. Don't fall for the trap, they still suck.

It boggles my mind how Brad Miller is still on the team batting .160 and booting every fucking ball in critical moments of games. That guy blows, he swings at every pitch outside the strike zone and doesn't swing at first pitch fastballs over the middle of the plater.

McClendon sure is showing his great managerial skills by having Almonte up as long as he did after a shitty spring training and now Brad Miller is easily the worst SS in baseball yet he will probably play the whole season because he is young and we all know he will be hitting .400 once he learns what the fucking strike zone is.

LOL Dave Cameron after the second game when Miller had two HR's called Miller the best SS in the AL.

Guy is such a condescending prick it's fun to point that out to him.

dhdawg

The offense being 11th in runs is a mirage, they'll finish somewhere between 20th-25th in that category.
The pitching however is not. iwakuma came back and looked unhittable the other night against the royals (it is the royals but still) Felix is felix. And if they can get Paxton healthy he's a solid #3. Elias is a solid #4 as well. Still not sold on young though.
They're an 80-82 win ballclub imo. From some of the teams I've seen there are much worse teams than the mariners out there.
BTW this team isn't comparable to the 2011 team, those lineups aren't even close.
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2014_05_13_anamlb_phimlb_1&mode=gameday#gid=2011_04_09_clemlb_seamlb_1&mode=box
the middle of the order was Milton Bradley, Jack Cust, and Justin Smoak. it's incredible that team was 31-28 at one point

Tequilla

They need to improve the pen.

If the rotation gets healthy it's a strength - few teams in the AL can match that.

The offense is full of a bunch of young guys that will have their ups and downs and probably cause them to be inconsistent at times.

They do have a few trade chips that they can offer out there though for some help.

In the AL this year, 85 wins is going to get you in the discussion for a postseason spot.

dhdawg

the pen is my biggest concern. The offense will be up and down all year, and I agree (although roaddawg is gonna tell me I'm wrong) that the pitching rotation is a strength.

Rodney will be good for the most part, and Fahrquar and Leone seem to both be solid middle relievers. But they need a big time setup man to just come out of the blue, Stephen pryor? They may have to pursue a trade as well

RoadDawg55

Tequilla said:

I'd be shocked if they ended up with 85-90 wins because they are the Mariners ... but they are definitely trending in that direction when you consider that they are still missing 2 of their better starting pitchers and if they are in the race in June/July, it wouldn't shock me if they added another arm or two in the bullpen to help out.

That's a pretty big assumption for two guys who haven't even combined to throw 100 innings in the big leagues. It has to be true though. It's not hard to be better than Ramirez and Maurer.