Thing PRO (NFL) Football does best over PRO (NCAA) Football?

YellowSnow

AOG

Janet Reno

NFL doesn't stop the fucking clock every play

BleachedAnusDawg

Janet Reno

Abundance.

1to392831weretaken

Janet Reno

I'm only Renoing because two of the choices go hand in hand: the draft and salary cap. With a salary cap, there's a free market for talent but it's limited by a cap. You can't just buy the 53 best players in the league. Between that and the draft, there is a reasonably short runway for any team becoming championship caliber. It's easier to sit through a four-win season knowing that your team could follow it up by crushing it in the draft, buy a few stud players in free agency, and make a deep playoff run the following year. The NFL--and pro leagues in general--do an excellent job of creating parity to keep every fan base interested.

In the past, that was the ONLY thing the NFL had going for it. Everything else tilted toward college. Even relatively recently, the wide open free market in college football did what such markets tend to do in their infancy: promote innovation and variety and competition and unexpected outcomes. What we're seeing now in college football is the inevitable endgame of unrestricted free markets: the rich eating the poor in a race to consolidate into duopolies then monopolies that can maximize profit margin in exchange for dwindling customer experience. In other words, the old NCAA football was Airtouch, where you could drunkenly crush your phone at 1:30am in a freak bar air hockey accident and they'd FedEx overnight you a new one at no charge. Modern football is Verizon, and the world would be a better place if every Verizon executive were trapped in a burning building and died slowly.

/commie rant

YellowSnow

Janet Reno

1to392831weretaken said:

I'm only Renoing because two of the choices go hand in hand: the draft and salary cap. With a salary cap, there's a free market for talent but it's limited by a cap. You can't just buy the 53 best players in the league. Between that and the draft, there is a reasonably short runway for any team becoming championship caliber. It's easier to sit through a four-win season knowing that your team could follow it up by crushing it in the draft, buy a few stud players in free agency, and make a deep playoff run the following year. The NFL--and pro leagues in general--do an excellent job of creating parity to keep every fan base interested.

In the past, that was the ONLY thing the NFL had going for it. Everything else tilted toward college. Even relatively recently, the wide open free market in college football did what such markets tend to do in their infancy: promote innovation and variety and competition and unexpected outcomes. What we're seeing now in college football is the inevitable endgame of unrestricted free markets: the rich eating the poor in a race to consolidate into duopolies then monopolies that can maximize profit margin in exchange for dwindling customer experience. In other words, the old NCAA football was Airtouch, where you could drunkenly crush your phone at 1:30am in a freak bar air hockey accident and they'd FedEx overnight you a new one at no charge. Modern football is Verizon, and the world would be a better place if every Verizon executive were trapped in a burning building and died slowly.

/commie rant

Spot on pour man's @Tequilla !!

The NFL product uses some socialism to save capitalism, and keep the fans believing in hope and change.

College football has become the highest stage of robber baron capitalism.

#NotATugComment

chuck

Janet Reno

It comes down to parity, consistently hard fought, competitive games, and what 1to28831 said about the ability to turn a franchise around in short order.

So yeah, the draft and the cap.

YellowSnow

Janet Reno

chuck said:

It comes down to parity, consistently hard fought, competitive games, and what 1to28831 said about the ability to turn a franchise around in short order.

So yeah, the draft and the cap.

And the ability to keep the regional rivalries.

How the fuck did Nebraska end up in different conference than Oklahoma?

DucksFC

Mostly 1:05 PM to 1:25 PM Kick-offs

I mean your signature is the real answer though

YellowSnow

Janet Reno

DucksFC said:

I mean your signature is the real answer though

Dan Fouts was my first favorite football player. I have come full circle.

DucksFC

Mostly 1:05 PM to 1:25 PM Kick-offs

YellowSnow said:

DucksFC said:

I mean your signature is the real answer though

Dan Fouts was my first favorite football player. I have come full circle.

tbh I’m probably going to enjoy watching this upcoming Chargers season way more than CFB.

YellowSnow

Janet Reno

DucksFC said:

YellowSnow said:

DucksFC said:

I mean your signature is the real answer though

Dan Fouts was my first favorite football player. I have come full circle.

tbh I’m probably going to enjoy watching this upcoming Chargers season way more than CFB.

Few have disrespected Oregon more in the past than me on these boards. I used to like to remind @oregonblitzkrieg (RIP) of my partying on the 50 yard line Zero in 2002.


But I like the Herbert story and seeing him do well in the NFL.

chuck

Janet Reno

YellowSnow said:

DucksFC said:

I mean your signature is the real answer though

Dan Fouts was my first favorite football player. I have come full circle.

Fouts, John Jefferson, Charlie Joyner, and Chuck Muncee swayed me from my 70s favorites (the Steelers) and I stuck with the Chargers as my favorite until Fouts was done. James Brooks was another favorite as he was there for a couple of years iirc before going to the Bengals.

I couldn't get behind them with Rivers. Always hated him. Other than that period They've stayed among the franchises I favor since the early 80s.

RaceBannon

chuck said:

YellowSnow said:

DucksFC said:

I mean your signature is the real answer though

Dan Fouts was my first favorite football player. I have come full circle.

Fouts, John Jefferson, Charlie Joyner, and Chuck Muncee swayed me from my 70s favorites (the Steelers) and I stuck with the Chargers as my favorite until Fouts was done. James Brooks was another favorite as he was there for a couple of years iirc before going to the Bengals.

I couldn't get behind them with Rivers. Always hated him. Other than that period They've stayed among the franchises I favor since the early 80s.

I too liked that Chargers team but I liked the Plunkett Raiders better

Epic AFC championship road win to send Oakland against Vermeil and the Eagles

YellowSnow

Janet Reno

RaceBannon said:

chuck said:

YellowSnow said:

DucksFC said:

I mean your signature is the real answer though

Dan Fouts was my first favorite football player. I have come full circle.

Fouts, John Jefferson, Charlie Joyner, and Chuck Muncee swayed me from my 70s favorites (the Steelers) and I stuck with the Chargers as my favorite until Fouts was done. James Brooks was another favorite as he was there for a couple of years iirc before going to the Bengals.

I couldn't get behind them with Rivers. Always hated him. Other than that period They've stayed among the franchises I favor since the early 80s.

I too liked that Chargers team but I liked the Plunkett Raiders better

Epic AFC championship road win to send Oakland against Vermeil and the Eagles

We should have hired Don Coryell. Probably would have won a few more Natties than James.

DucksFC

Mostly 1:05 PM to 1:25 PM Kick-offs

YellowSnow said:

DucksFC said:

YellowSnow said:

DucksFC said:

I mean your signature is the real answer though

Dan Fouts was my first favorite football player. I have come full circle.

tbh I’m probably going to enjoy watching this upcoming Chargers season way more than CFB.

Few have disrespected Oregon more in the past than me on these boards. I used to like to remind @oregonblitzkrieg (RIP) of my partying on the 50 yard line Zero in 2002.


But I like the Herbert story and seeing him do well in the NFL.

winners get to pop off. I was at the 2002 game and then the 2003 one with Casey "Legend For A Night" Paus lighting up our shitty DBs. 2002-2004 sucked.

fucking stoked on this Chargers season though. They're loaded

haie

Janet Reno

The NFL is garbage and always has been.

YellowSnow

Janet Reno

haie said:

The NFL is garbage and always has been.

That’s the fucking point. I used to shit talk the NFL left and right. And somehow college football managed to make itself into an inferior product.

DucksFC

Mostly 1:05 PM to 1:25 PM Kick-offs

YellowSnow said:

haie said:

The NFL is garbage and always has been.

That’s the fucking point. I used to shit talk the NFL left and right. And somehow college football managed to make itself into an inferior product.

I actually preferred the Chargers over hatewatching Mario's Duck teams, and I usually hate the NFL as well.

dannarc

Janet Reno

I hated the NFL until now, it's a better product. Football was meant to be played on a crisp Saturday afternoon..oh well..

chuck

Janet Reno

RaceBannon said:

chuck said:

YellowSnow said:

DucksFC said:

I mean your signature is the real answer though

Dan Fouts was my first favorite football player. I have come full circle.

Fouts, John Jefferson, Charlie Joyner, and Chuck Muncee swayed me from my 70s favorites (the Steelers) and I stuck with the Chargers as my favorite until Fouts was done. James Brooks was another favorite as he was there for a couple of years iirc before going to the Bengals.

I couldn't get behind them with Rivers. Always hated him. Other than that period They've stayed among the franchises I favor since the early 80s.

I too liked those Chargers team but I liked the Plunkett Raiders better

Epic AFC championship road win to send Oakland against Vermeil and the Eagles

I cried twice that playoffs. When the hated Raiders beat my team, then again when they beat my #2. I loved that Eagles team too.

My brother liked the Raiders.