How am I going to be able to off my disabled kids now?
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From it doesn't happen to its rare and tragic in three postsHHusky said:
They are rare because the tragic circumstances under which they occur are rare.Sources said:
you couldn't be bothered with a 30 second Google search? You really do strive to live in the dark.HHusky said:
Fair enough. Are we seeing a lot of 9th month abortion tourism to those states?Sources said:HHusky said:
Better question: in which of the 50 states was this fantasy of yours ever legal?WestlinnDuck said:So why do the people you vote for support it if it never happens? Don't hurt yourself.
Maybe you don't have to prohibit something no one wants to do anyway.
Late term abortions are admittedly rare - around 1% I think. But the frequency doesn't justify a take the issue one or way or the other
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Gasbag thinks women are killing the Gerber baby in order to fit into their swimsuits, or they're doing it just because women are generally unstable and erratic.RaceBannon said:
From it doesn't happen to its rare and tragic in three postsHHusky said:
They are rare because the tragic circumstances under which they occur are rare.Sources said:
you couldn't be bothered with a 30 second Google search? You really do strive to live in the dark.HHusky said:
Fair enough. Are we seeing a lot of 9th month abortion tourism to those states?Sources said:HHusky said:
Better question: in which of the 50 states was this fantasy of yours ever legal?WestlinnDuck said:So why do the people you vote for support it if it never happens? Don't hurt yourself.
Maybe you don't have to prohibit something no one wants to do anyway.
Late term abortions are admittedly rare - around 1% I think. But the frequency doesn't justify a take the issue one or way or the other
Dazzling
If this was our first go round, you pretending that I don't acknowledge that there are rare cases of severe fetal abnormalities that result in women choosing late term abortions could be an honest misunderstanding. But this isn't our first go round. Women aren't choosing 9th month abortions of perfectly healthy babies.
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LieHHusky said:
Gasbag thinks women are killing the Gerber baby in order to fit into their swimsuits, or they're doing it just because women are generally unstable and erratic.RaceBannon said:
From it doesn't happen to its rare and tragic in three postsHHusky said:
They are rare because the tragic circumstances under which they occur are rare.Sources said:
you couldn't be bothered with a 30 second Google search? You really do strive to live in the dark.HHusky said:
Fair enough. Are we seeing a lot of 9th month abortion tourism to those states?Sources said:HHusky said:
Better question: in which of the 50 states was this fantasy of yours ever legal?WestlinnDuck said:So why do the people you vote for support it if it never happens? Don't hurt yourself.
Maybe you don't have to prohibit something no one wants to do anyway.
Late term abortions are admittedly rare - around 1% I think. But the frequency doesn't justify a take the issue one or way or the other
Dazzling
If this was our first go round, you pretending that I don't acknowledge that there are rare cases of severe fetal abnormalities that result in women choosing late term abortions could be an honest misunderstanding. But this isn't our first go round. Women aren't choosing 9th month abortions of perfectly healthy babies.
As usual
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That doesn't work if you assign to the fetus a moral significance equal to that of a person. I do because I cannot logically do otherwise.HHusky said:
Pro-choice voter here.MikeDamone said:
I know someone who found out their baby had only a brain stem or something like that. They carried the baby to term. She lived an hour or so. It was their decision and the only one they felt they could live with. They named her and had a private burial with just the two of them.creepycoug said:
Yeah, if I ever did see my way to an exception for abortion, it would not be for Down's. Not even close. Where you start maybe thinking it's ok is when the fetus has no brain tissue ... things of that nature. Even then, it's slippery.MikeDamone said:
Iceland cured Down’s syndromecreepycoug said:With the qualifier that my evolved view on abortion is sincere, let me say this, about that: this is where it gets really difficult, and the argument wanders over from abortion to euthanasia, the latter of which I support, though I support it for clear-thinking, autonomous human beings making an informed and free choice. The fetus can't do that.
We know children form in the womb with all manner of issues, including missing organs, screwed up DNA, etc. Incredibly difficult moral decisions with which to wrestle there. Not sure where I sit in those circumstances. I probably go back to the idea that we? are not allowed to play the role of Dr. Mengele or Roman Emperor and have to let nature LIPO. Sometimes that can be nothing short of brutal.
I'll say this, as well: shame on all who use these very difficult situations for political maneuvering. I don't care which way you want to argue it; if you don't really care about it and have never truly had a sincerely held view before now, I think it's bad form to feign moral indignation in the name of winning. But this is America and it's what we do.
I have, for real, had two people close to me with born-in health problems, one of whom is no longer with us. In the case of the one who is with us, that person has accomplished more in their early 20s than most of us will achieve in a lifetime, and that's no shit. What a fucking winner. The kind of kid with which nobody wants to be compared. The one who passed lived a somewhat short and extremely painful existence, and we all periodically look back and wonder if we did the right thing putting that person through what they went through, which on a good day was a level of suffering that would bring any one of us here to our knees.
They had quite a few shit stain humans criticizing them for it. I’d imagine the BidenBros of the time would have a meltdown over it.
Feel free not to have an abortion, but don't deprive others of their choices.
At that point, saying "don't have one but let me do it" is like saying "feel free to not murder people, but don't deprive others of their choice."
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He knows his claim is a lie, he just doesn't care.Sources said:
you couldn't be bothered with a 30 second Google search? You really do strive to live in the dark.HHusky said:
Fair enough. Are we seeing a lot of 9th month abortion tourism to those states?Sources said:HHusky said:
Better question: in which of the 50 states was this fantasy of yours ever legal?WestlinnDuck said:So why do the people you vote for support it if it never happens? Don't hurt yourself.
Maybe you don't have to prohibit something no one wants to do anyway.
Late term abortions are admittedly rare - around 1% I think. But the frequency doesn't justify a take the issue one or way or the other -
And there's the strawman ass fuck.HHusky said:
Gasbag thinks women are killing the Gerber baby in order to fit into their swimsuits, or they're doing it just because women are generally unstable and erratic.RaceBannon said:
From it doesn't happen to its rare and tragic in three postsHHusky said:
They are rare because the tragic circumstances under which they occur are rare.Sources said:
you couldn't be bothered with a 30 second Google search? You really do strive to live in the dark.HHusky said:
Fair enough. Are we seeing a lot of 9th month abortion tourism to those states?Sources said:HHusky said:
Better question: in which of the 50 states was this fantasy of yours ever legal?WestlinnDuck said:So why do the people you vote for support it if it never happens? Don't hurt yourself.
Maybe you don't have to prohibit something no one wants to do anyway.
Late term abortions are admittedly rare - around 1% I think. But the frequency doesn't justify a take the issue one or way or the other
Dazzling
If this was our first go round, you pretending that I don't acknowledge that there are rare cases of severe fetal abnormalities that result in women choosing late term abortions could be an honest misunderstanding. But this isn't our first go round. Women aren't choosing 9th month abortions of perfectly healthy babies. -
So there are no late term abortions for healthy babies, that's your position, correct Dazzler?HHusky said:
Gasbag thinks women are killing the Gerber baby in order to fit into their swimsuits, or they're doing it just because women are generally unstable and erratic.RaceBannon said:
From it doesn't happen to its rare and tragic in three postsHHusky said:
They are rare because the tragic circumstances under which they occur are rare.Sources said:
you couldn't be bothered with a 30 second Google search? You really do strive to live in the dark.HHusky said:
Fair enough. Are we seeing a lot of 9th month abortion tourism to those states?Sources said:HHusky said:
Better question: in which of the 50 states was this fantasy of yours ever legal?WestlinnDuck said:So why do the people you vote for support it if it never happens? Don't hurt yourself.
Maybe you don't have to prohibit something no one wants to do anyway.
Late term abortions are admittedly rare - around 1% I think. But the frequency doesn't justify a take the issue one or way or the other
Dazzling
If this was our first go round, you pretending that I don't acknowledge that there are rare cases of severe fetal abnormalities that result in women choosing late term abortions could be an honest misunderstanding. But this isn't our first go round. Women aren't choosing 9th month abortions of perfectly healthy babies. -
Cons, you're debating a shit human being. Start there.
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He should have done in 10 days earlier. No problemo then, according to our leftist friends.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/may/15/philadelphia-abortion-doctor-kermit-gosnell-sentenced-life -
And of course, after fucking a little strawman ass Dazzler runs away.SFGbob said:
So there are no late term abortions for healthy babies, that's your position, correct Dazzler?HHusky said:
Gasbag thinks women are killing the Gerber baby in order to fit into their swimsuits, or they're doing it just because women are generally unstable and erratic.RaceBannon said:
From it doesn't happen to its rare and tragic in three postsHHusky said:
They are rare because the tragic circumstances under which they occur are rare.Sources said:
you couldn't be bothered with a 30 second Google search? You really do strive to live in the dark.HHusky said:
Fair enough. Are we seeing a lot of 9th month abortion tourism to those states?Sources said:HHusky said:
Better question: in which of the 50 states was this fantasy of yours ever legal?WestlinnDuck said:So why do the people you vote for support it if it never happens? Don't hurt yourself.
Maybe you don't have to prohibit something no one wants to do anyway.
Late term abortions are admittedly rare - around 1% I think. But the frequency doesn't justify a take the issue one or way or the other
Dazzling
If this was our first go round, you pretending that I don't acknowledge that there are rare cases of severe fetal abnormalities that result in women choosing late term abortions could be an honest misunderstanding. But this isn't our first go round. Women aren't choosing 9th month abortions of perfectly healthy babies.
