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Article 5 of the NATO treaty:
Article 5 of the Washington Treaty:
The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.
Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security. -
Your dumbest post yet, cunt drip.PostGameOrangeSlices said:The US is full of native Poles and Europeans, not native Iraqis and Afganis.
If Europe is going to get invaded by Russia, they US populace will recognize the need to defend it you fucking dumbass -
If Russia invaded Europe, and we went to war based off a treaty we are bound to obligate, it is political suicide?MikeDamone said:
The citizens don't matter? The war we are in and the fact Obama is the President suggests otherwise. If we went to war over this, it's political suicide for who ever is in charge. Simple fact.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
You are fundamentally wrong on this one. It's like arguing with a brick wall, or D2D.MikeDamone said:
No, it wouldn't. We won't do shit. We might send over Biden to achieve peace in our time. No fucking way does the US invest lives and trillions into that. No fucking way. We won't even do anything meaningful economically. It would need to come down to the US being attacked. Simple fact.AZDuck said:Mike-
Poland is a NATO member in good standing. Putin rolling into Poland would be the same as Putin rolling into London, Berlin, Paris, or Yelm.
Just because the US won't instill a draft and send in tons of foot soldiers, doesn't mean we won't send our AF and Navy to assist Europe and throw back Russia. The marines and special forces will get deployed as well.
The citizens opinions don't fucking matter on this issue Damone. HTH
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And what is the remedy if we decide it's not in our best interest to do that..... Oh, yeah, nothing.AZDuck said:Article 5 of the NATO treaty:
Article 5 of the Washington Treaty:
The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.
Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security.
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Great refute to my point as always, dumb fuckMikeDamone said:
Your dumbest post yet, cunt drip.PostGameOrangeSlices said:The US is full of native Poles and Europeans, not native Iraqis and Afganis.
If Europe is going to get invaded by Russia, they US populace will recognize the need to defend it you fucking dumbass
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And what is the remedy if we decide it's not in our best interest to do that..... Oh, yeah, nothing.MikeDamone said:AZDuck said:Article 5 of the NATO treaty:
Article 5 of the Washington Treaty:
The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.
Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security.
Yeah, what a great idea that is Damone. Forfeit our status as world superpower and let Russia rape Europe, great fucking idea man.
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It all comes back to the fucking CONTARCT?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
If Russia invaded Europe, and we went to war based off a treaty we are bound to obligate, it is political suicide?MikeDamone said:
The citizens don't matter? The war we are in and the fact Obama is the President suggests otherwise. If we went to war over this, it's political suicide for who ever is in charge. Simple fact.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
You are fundamentally wrong on this one. It's like arguing with a brick wall, or D2D.MikeDamone said:
No, it wouldn't. We won't do shit. We might send over Biden to achieve peace in our time. No fucking way does the US invest lives and trillions into that. No fucking way. We won't even do anything meaningful economically. It would need to come down to the US being attacked. Simple fact.AZDuck said:Mike-
Poland is a NATO member in good standing. Putin rolling into Poland would be the same as Putin rolling into London, Berlin, Paris, or Yelm.
Just because the US won't instill a draft and send in tons of foot soldiers, doesn't mean we won't send our AF and Navy to assist Europe and throw back Russia. The marines and special forces will get deployed as well.
The citizens opinions don't fucking matter on this issue Damone. HTH
I used to think you were somewhat intelligent. Now, not so much
Bottom line is it will be a political and economic decision to either take action or not. If it is not in our national interest to invade, we will not invade. We will not commit lives and money because of a decades old agreement that can't be enforced. We are war weary and won't be invading anyone anytime soon -
no fucking shit. we will however prevent an invasion of our allies, and invade russia if they use nukes.MikeDamone said:
It all comes back to the fucking CONTARCT?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
If Russia invaded Europe, and we went to war based off a treaty we are bound to obligate, it is political suicide?MikeDamone said:
The citizens don't matter? The war we are in and the fact Obama is the President suggests otherwise. If we went to war over this, it's political suicide for who ever is in charge. Simple fact.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
You are fundamentally wrong on this one. It's like arguing with a brick wall, or D2D.MikeDamone said:
No, it wouldn't. We won't do shit. We might send over Biden to achieve peace in our time. No fucking way does the US invest lives and trillions into that. No fucking way. We won't even do anything meaningful economically. It would need to come down to the US being attacked. Simple fact.AZDuck said:Mike-
Poland is a NATO member in good standing. Putin rolling into Poland would be the same as Putin rolling into London, Berlin, Paris, or Yelm.
Just because the US won't instill a draft and send in tons of foot soldiers, doesn't mean we won't send our AF and Navy to assist Europe and throw back Russia. The marines and special forces will get deployed as well.
The citizens opinions don't fucking matter on this issue Damone. HTH
I used to think you were somewhat intelligent. Now, not so much
Bottom line is it will be a political and economic decision to either take action or not. If it is not in our national interest to invade, we will not invade. We will not commit lives and money because of a decades old agreement that can't be enforced. We are war weary and won't be invading anyone anytime soon
its simple, stop being dense -
It's on par with your dumb fucking comments.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Great refute to my point as always, dumb fuckMikeDamone said:
Your dumbest post yet, cunt drip.PostGameOrangeSlices said:The US is full of native Poles and Europeans, not native Iraqis and Afganis.
If Europe is going to get invaded by Russia, they US populace will recognize the need to defend it you fucking dumbass -
Wrong, you're just not very good at this.MikeDamone said:
It's on par with your dumb fucking comments.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Great refute to my point as always, dumb fuckMikeDamone said:
Your dumbest post yet, cunt drip.PostGameOrangeSlices said:The US is full of native Poles and Europeans, not native Iraqis and Afganis.
If Europe is going to get invaded by Russia, they US populace will recognize the need to defend it you fucking dumbass
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