My body MY CHOICE
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A superfluous way of saying they're pro-murder.MikeDamone said:I'm not pro-murdering babies.
I'm pro-Becky who found out at her 20 week anatomy scan that the infant she had been so excited to bring into this world had developed without life sustaining organs.
I'm pro-Susan who was sexually assaulted on her way home from work, only to come to the horrific realization that her assailant planted his seed in her when she got a positive pregnancy test result a month later.
I'm pro-Theresa who hemorrhaged due to a placental abruption, causing her parents, spouse, and children to have to make the impossible decision on whether to save her or her unborn child.
I'm pro-little Cathy who had her innocence ripped away from her by someone she should have been able to trust and her 11 year old body isn't mature enough to bear the consequence of that betrayal.
I'm pro-Melissa who's working two jobs just to make ends meet and has to choose between bringing another child into poverty or feeding the children she already has because her spouse walked out on her.
I'm pro-Brittany who realizes that she is in no way financially, emotionally, or physically able to raise a child.
I'm pro-Emily who went through IVF, ending up with SIX viable implanted eggs requiring selective reduction in order to ensure the safety of her and a SAFE amount of fetuses.
I'm pro-Christina who doesn't want to be a mother, but birth control methods sometimes fail.
I'm pro-Jessica who is FINALLY getting the strength to get away from her physically abusive spouse only to find out that she is carrying the monster's child.
I'm pro-Vanessa who went into her confirmation appointment after YEARS of trying to conceive only to hear silence where there should be a heartbeat.
I'm pro-Lindsay who lost her virginity in her sophomore year with a broken condom and now has to choose whether to be a teenage mom or just a teenager.
I'm pro-Courtney who just found out she's already 13 weeks along, but the egg never made it out of her fallopian tube so either she terminates the pregnancy or risks dying from internal bleeding.
You can argue and say that I'm pro-choice all you want, but the truth is:
I'm pro-life.
Their lives.
Women's lives.
You don't get to pick and choose which scenarios should be accepted.
AND NONE OF THIS IS ANY POLITICIAN’S BUSINESS. IT IS BETWEEN THE WOMAN AND MAYBE HER FAMILY AND HER DOCTOR, FULL STOP.
Women's rights are meant to protect ALL women, regardless of their situation! -
Who the fuck is this lunatic and fat ass cuck next to her?jecornel said: -
I'm not pro-murdering babies.
I'm pro-Becky who found out at her 20 week anatomy scan that the infant she had been so excited to bring into this world had developed without life sustaining organs.
I'm pro-Susan who was sexually assaulted on her way home from work, only to come to the horrific realization that her assailant planted his seed in her when she got a positive pregnancy test result a month later.
I'm pro-Theresa who hemorrhaged due to a placental abruption, causing her parents, spouse, and children to have to make the impossible decision on whether to save her or her unborn child.
I'm pro-little Cathy who had her innocence ripped away from her by someone she should have been able to trust and her 11 year old body isn't mature enough to bear the consequence of that betrayal.
I'm pro-Melissa who's working two jobs just to make ends meet and has to choose between bringing another child into poverty or feeding the children she already has because her spouse walked out on her.
I'm pro-Brittany who realizes that she is in no way financially, emotionally, or physically able to raise a child.
I'm pro-Emily who went through IVF, ending up with SIX viable implanted eggs requiring selective reduction in order to ensure the safety of her and a SAFE amount of fetuses.
I'm pro-Christina who doesn't want to be a mother, but birth control methods sometimes fail.
I'm pro-Jessica who is FINALLY getting the strength to get away from her physically abusive spouse only to find out that she is carrying the monster's child.
I'm pro-Vanessa who went into her confirmation appointment after YEARS of trying to conceive only to hear silence where there should be a heartbeat.
I'm pro-Lindsay who lost her virginity in her sophomore year with a broken condom and now has to choose whether to be a teenage mom or just a teenager.
I'm pro-Courtney who just found out she's already 13 weeks along, but the egg never made it out of her fallopian tube so either she terminates the pregnancy or risks dying from internal bleeding.
You can argue and say that I'm pro-choice all you want, but the truth is:
I'm pro-life.
Their lives.
Women's lives.
You don't get to pick and choose which scenarios should be accepted.
AND NONE OF THIS IS ANY POLITICIAN’S BUSINESS. IT IS BETWEEN THE WOMAN AND MAYBE HER FAMILY AND HER DOCTOR, FULL STOP.
Women's rights are meant to protect ALL women, regardless of their situation!
How dare you.RoadTrip said:
A superfluous way of saying they're pro-murder.MikeDamone said:I'm not pro-murdering babies.
I'm pro-Becky who found out at her 20 week anatomy scan that the infant she had been so excited to bring into this world had developed without life sustaining organs.
I'm pro-Susan who was sexually assaulted on her way home from work, only to come to the horrific realization that her assailant planted his seed in her when she got a positive pregnancy test result a month later.
I'm pro-Theresa who hemorrhaged due to a placental abruption, causing her parents, spouse, and children to have to make the impossible decision on whether to save her or her unborn child.
I'm pro-little Cathy who had her innocence ripped away from her by someone she should have been able to trust and her 11 year old body isn't mature enough to bear the consequence of that betrayal.
I'm pro-Melissa who's working two jobs just to make ends meet and has to choose between bringing another child into poverty or feeding the children she already has because her spouse walked out on her.
I'm pro-Brittany who realizes that she is in no way financially, emotionally, or physically able to raise a child.
I'm pro-Emily who went through IVF, ending up with SIX viable implanted eggs requiring selective reduction in order to ensure the safety of her and a SAFE amount of fetuses.
I'm pro-Christina who doesn't want to be a mother, but birth control methods sometimes fail.
I'm pro-Jessica who is FINALLY getting the strength to get away from her physically abusive spouse only to find out that she is carrying the monster's child.
I'm pro-Vanessa who went into her confirmation appointment after YEARS of trying to conceive only to hear silence where there should be a heartbeat.
I'm pro-Lindsay who lost her virginity in her sophomore year with a broken condom and now has to choose whether to be a teenage mom or just a teenager.
I'm pro-Courtney who just found out she's already 13 weeks along, but the egg never made it out of her fallopian tube so either she terminates the pregnancy or risks dying from internal bleeding.
You can argue and say that I'm pro-choice all you want, but the truth is:
I'm pro-life.
Their lives.
Women's lives.
You don't get to pick and choose which scenarios should be accepted.
AND NONE OF THIS IS ANY POLITICIAN’S BUSINESS. IT IS BETWEEN THE WOMAN AND MAYBE HER FAMILY AND HER DOCTOR, FULL STOP.
Women's rights are meant to protect ALL women, regardless of their situation! -
I am only ok either it when you can take a pill for it. After that, no... but yeah how anyone could do it is. BarbaricSledog said:
Allow 0 weeks. I didn't think about abortion that much until I had kids. Could never imagine killing them. If you can you need help.SFGbob said:
20 weeks is way too long. 12 should be the max. Hell France only allows 10 weeks.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:I get tired of the media fueled abortion debate but how is limiting it to the first 20 weeks unreasonable?
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Who? The lunatics on the left have no shortage of freaks to service them. And Rogan didn't oblige? I mean his only way of losing would be if the fat ass sat on him.46XiJCAB said: -
He’s a loudmouth “badass” Turk. Once a Republican he is now a total Progressive. One of the founders of Justice Democrats which gave us AOC and other radical DIMS.RoadTrip said:
Who? The lunatics on the left have no shortage of freaks to service them. And Rogan didn't oblige? I mean his only way of losing would be if the fat ass sat on him.46XiJCAB said:
There’s a famous rant of him going off like a little bitch at an airport. He promised to “end him” referring to Rogan. -
There are some weird takes on this issue. It's one thing to want to protect state's rights, but some things are pretty fundamental. That's why you can't have slaves in some states and not others.
I've done some thinking about this, and my views have evolved. As much as it sucks to have more derelicts born into society every day and inevitably increase the welfare state, nobody has been able to make a thought-provoking argument to draw the line anywhere. If you can't draw the line, the Catholics are right: at conception. The rest, my body, viability, rape, incest, save the mother, etc, is just mental masturbation. There is no reconciling it. It is morally unacceptable.
There is literally no justification for it. Human life at conception, period. No ifs, ands or butts. Are you allowed to kill an innocent bystander to save yourself? Or because the bystander has inconvenienced you? Did the fetus rape you? Is the fetus responsible for threatening your life? No, no, no and no.
States rights is perhaps the most retarded of arguments. We don't leave it to state legislatures to define what life is and where it begins, and we certainly don't leave it to the voters to decide that it's ok to just randomly kill somebody. "Watch out on your vacation to Glacier Sammy! The voters in Montana have approved the right of citizens to randomly kill people that they view as inconvenient." Please. Stop with this business.
Roe v. Wade should be overturned, and abortion should be ruled unconstitutional throughout the land.
So, no abortion, ever, in any circumstances. That's the right answer. I can draw no other conclusion. -
Did she flash her taco at Jimmy Door again?jecornel said: -
CuntWaffle said:
Speaking of stupid fat fucks who need to DIAFF....
Did the Dazzler go all Vietnamese monk on us?
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Stop teasing.PurpleThrobber said:CuntWaffle said:
Speaking of stupid fat fucks who need to DIAFF....
Did the Dazzler go all Vietnamese monk on us? -
Much like assless chaps, all new TV’s are flatscreenSledog said: -
I think a decent compromise is to allow it but restrict it to 8-12 weeks.Sledog said:
Allow 0 weeks. I didn't think about abortion that much until I had kids. Could never imagine killing them. If you can you need help.SFGbob said:
20 weeks is way too long. 12 should be the max. Hell France only allows 10 weeks.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:I get tired of the media fueled abortion debate but how is limiting it to the first 20 weeks unreasonable?
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The transphobia here, smdh
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Pick a lane Gavin.GrundleStiltzkin said:The transphobia here, smdh
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Sounds like he doesn’t like being controlled.46XiJCAB said:
Pick a lane Gavin.GrundleStiltzkin said:The transphobia here, smdh
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What is a woman? Axing for my lefty frens.
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I think if you're looking for a clear, brightline rule, this is the one. But I can't help but think at a minimum that people that have had circumstances thrust on them deserve some sort of exception.creepycoug said:There are some weird takes on this issue. It's one thing to want to protect state's rights, but some things are pretty fundamental. That's why you can't have slaves in some states and not others.
I've done some thinking about this, and my views have evolved. As much as it sucks to have more derelicts born into society every day and inevitably increase the welfare state, nobody has been able to make a thought-provoking argument to draw the line anywhere. If you can't draw the line, the Catholics are right: at conception. The rest, my body, viability, rape, incest, save the mother, etc, is just mental masturbation. There is no reconciling it. It is morally unacceptable.
There is literally no justification for it. Human life at conception, period. No ifs, ands or butts. Are you allowed to kill an innocent bystander to save yourself? Or because the bystander has inconvenienced you? Did the fetus rape you? Is the fetus responsible for threatening your life? No, no, no and no.
States rights is perhaps the most retarded of arguments. We don't leave it to state legislatures to define what life is and where it begins, and we certainly don't leave it to the voters to decide that it's ok to just randomly kill somebody. "Watch out on your vacation to Glacier Sammy! The voters in Montana have approved the right of citizens to randomly kill people that they view as inconvenient." Please. Stop with this business.
Roe v. Wade should be overturned, and abortion should be ruled unconstitutional throughout the land.
So, no abortion, ever, in any circumstances. That's the right answer. I can draw no other conclusion.
I know rape is the scenario everyone loves to point to because it's extreme, but I think it's a valid example. And quite honestly, I wouldn't want a rapist procreating anyway. Same can be said for minor abuse, etc.
More broadly, as someone who thinks our population levels are fucked anyway, I'm all for culling the herd a bit. I'm not religious, so I don't worry about any of that side of things,
For me, the issue is:when does an abortion blur into something that could be considered murder. I land on viability. By then, there's no longer an excuse - plenty of time to have "addressed" the problem and the unborn child is just that - a child.
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Keeps the population of undesirables down. As originally intended. No surprise the Dems are hell bent on wanting as many abortions as possible.Sources said:
I think if you're looking for a clear, brightline rule, this is the one. But I can't help but think at a minimum that people that have had circumstances thrust on them deserve some sort of exception.creepycoug said:There are some weird takes on this issue. It's one thing to want to protect state's rights, but some things are pretty fundamental. That's why you can't have slaves in some states and not others.
I've done some thinking about this, and my views have evolved. As much as it sucks to have more derelicts born into society every day and inevitably increase the welfare state, nobody has been able to make a thought-provoking argument to draw the line anywhere. If you can't draw the line, the Catholics are right: at conception. The rest, my body, viability, rape, incest, save the mother, etc, is just mental masturbation. There is no reconciling it. It is morally unacceptable.
There is literally no justification for it. Human life at conception, period. No ifs, ands or butts. Are you allowed to kill an innocent bystander to save yourself? Or because the bystander has inconvenienced you? Did the fetus rape you? Is the fetus responsible for threatening your life? No, no, no and no.
States rights is perhaps the most retarded of arguments. We don't leave it to state legislatures to define what life is and where it begins, and we certainly don't leave it to the voters to decide that it's ok to just randomly kill somebody. "Watch out on your vacation to Glacier Sammy! The voters in Montana have approved the right of citizens to randomly kill people that they view as inconvenient." Please. Stop with this business.
Roe v. Wade should be overturned, and abortion should be ruled unconstitutional throughout the land.
So, no abortion, ever, in any circumstances. That's the right answer. I can draw no other conclusion.
I know rape is the scenario everyone loves to point to because it's extreme, but I think it's a valid example. And quite honestly, I wouldn't want a rapist procreating anyway. Same can be said for minor abuse, etc.
More broadly, as someone who thinks our population levels are fucked anyway, I'm all for culling the herd a bit. I'm not religious, so I don't worry about any of that side of things,
For me, the issue is:when does an abortion blur into something that could be considered murder. I land on viability. By then, there's no longer an excuse - plenty of time to have "addressed" the problem and the unborn child is just that - a child.
YMMV (but if you disagree, fuck off)
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How transphobicGrundleStiltzkin said:The transphobia here, smdh
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I can't call killing a child a compromise because we cut some time off. A compromise is have the kid and put it up for adoption.SFGbob said:
I think a decent compromise is to allow it but restrict it to 8-12 weeks.Sledog said:
Allow 0 weeks. I didn't think about abortion that much until I had kids. Could never imagine killing them. If you can you need help.SFGbob said:
20 weeks is way too long. 12 should be the max. Hell France only allows 10 weeks.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:I get tired of the media fueled abortion debate but how is limiting it to the first 20 weeks unreasonable?
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Rape is unfortunate. But the fetus is a person and is faultless in the rape. Ergo, no abortion.Sources said:
I think if you're looking for a clear, brightline rule, this is the one. But I can't help but think at a minimum that people that have had circumstances thrust on them deserve some sort of exception.creepycoug said:There are some weird takes on this issue. It's one thing to want to protect state's rights, but some things are pretty fundamental. That's why you can't have slaves in some states and not others.
I've done some thinking about this, and my views have evolved. As much as it sucks to have more derelicts born into society every day and inevitably increase the welfare state, nobody has been able to make a thought-provoking argument to draw the line anywhere. If you can't draw the line, the Catholics are right: at conception. The rest, my body, viability, rape, incest, save the mother, etc, is just mental masturbation. There is no reconciling it. It is morally unacceptable.
There is literally no justification for it. Human life at conception, period. No ifs, ands or butts. Are you allowed to kill an innocent bystander to save yourself? Or because the bystander has inconvenienced you? Did the fetus rape you? Is the fetus responsible for threatening your life? No, no, no and no.
States rights is perhaps the most retarded of arguments. We don't leave it to state legislatures to define what life is and where it begins, and we certainly don't leave it to the voters to decide that it's ok to just randomly kill somebody. "Watch out on your vacation to Glacier Sammy! The voters in Montana have approved the right of citizens to randomly kill people that they view as inconvenient." Please. Stop with this business.
Roe v. Wade should be overturned, and abortion should be ruled unconstitutional throughout the land.
So, no abortion, ever, in any circumstances. That's the right answer. I can draw no other conclusion.
I know rape is the scenario everyone loves to point to because it's extreme, but I think it's a valid example. And quite honestly, I wouldn't want a rapist procreating anyway. Same can be said for minor abuse, etc.
More broadly, as someone who thinks our population levels are fucked anyway, I'm all for culling the herd a bit. I'm not religious, so I don't worry about any of that side of things,
For me, the issue is:when does an abortion blur into something that could be considered murder. I land on viability. By then, there's no longer an excuse - plenty of time to have "addressed" the problem and the unborn child is just that - a child.
YMMV (but if you disagree, fuck off)
Viability fails too. Viability is a moving line that changes with technology. We’re talking about what is and is not a person. That doesn’t move with technological advancement.
Can’t have it. The zealots are right on this one.
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Sleddy is right on this one. Can’t compromise a murder of an innocent person. That’s non-sense when you really think about it. It’s a person or it’s not. Or draw me a line that is at least thought provoking. So far I’ve seen none.Sledog said:
I can't call killing a child a compromise because we cut some time off. A compromise is have the kid and put it up for adoption.SFGbob said:
I think a decent compromise is to allow it but restrict it to 8-12 weeks.Sledog said:
Allow 0 weeks. I didn't think about abortion that much until I had kids. Could never imagine killing them. If you can you need help.SFGbob said:
20 weeks is way too long. 12 should be the max. Hell France only allows 10 weeks.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:I get tired of the media fueled abortion debate but how is limiting it to the first 20 weeks unreasonable?
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We're not a theocracy
Trite but true
I would be crushed if I got a gal preggers and she got an abortion. Against everything I believe in
Prohibition was also good. Before it Americans were basically drunk if they were awake
Drugs are bad for you and the country
But back ally abortion would return and that's bad secular policy
Prohibition doesn't work. Not even in Iran -
People still murder people but we keep it illegal.RaceBannon said:We're not a theocracy
Trite but true
I would be crushed if I got a gal preggers and she got an abortion. Against everything I believe in
Prohibition was also good. Before it Americans were basically drunk if they were awake
Drugs are bad for you and the country
But back ally abortion would return and that's bad secular policy
Prohibition doesn't work. Not even in Iran
Back alleys will back alley. It’s a person or it’s not. No line? Then it is. Can’t kill it. Period. No circumstances. The Catholics nailed this one. -
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Has there every been an abortion performed in and alley? Front alley or back alley?creepycoug said:
People still murder people but we keep it illegal.RaceBannon said:We're not a theocracy
Trite but true
I would be crushed if I got a gal preggers and she got an abortion. Against everything I believe in
Prohibition was also good. Before it Americans were basically drunk if they were awake
Drugs are bad for you and the country
But back ally abortion would return and that's bad secular policy
Prohibition doesn't work. Not even in Iran
Back alleys will back alley. It’s a person or it’s not. No line? Then it is. Can’t kill it. Period. No circumstances. The Catholics nailed this one.
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Technology is the biggest reason the first trimester is BACK
After that you can't argue it's not life
I think murder should be legal in some cases as well
Slow drivers in the fast lane for example
