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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,978
    trublue said:

    HHusky said:

    Sources said:

    My group relies solely on alternative fee arrangements. Much simpler and cleaner.

    Pro formas and hourly billable is fuckery of the highest degree.

    I'd be more expensive that way. But by all means, pay me like the bankers get paid. % of the deal. I'd kill for that and blame my conservative brothers of the bar for being too chicken shit to take the risk.

    "Oh, oh, but we might do a lot of work and not get paid!!!"

    Yeah, like that would happen.

    At least on the business side, legal fees are some of the best value you'll get out of professional services. I fucking counsel on shit that has nothing to do with legal work all the time. That's free advice on shit that is outside of my concern.

    But go ahead and do the work yourself. Please.
    I wish I could get paid a percentage of all the money my clients didn't lose because of some dumbass agreement they would have entered into without me.

    Instead, I just get my negotiated flat fee or my hourly.
    $20 per hour sounds about right for your talents.
    Who does HH bill for all the hours he spends on HCH?
    Why would I need to bill anyone, Detective?
  • Sources
    Sources Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 4,347 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    trublue said:

    HHusky said:

    Sources said:

    My group relies solely on alternative fee arrangements. Much simpler and cleaner.

    Pro formas and hourly billable is fuckery of the highest degree.

    I'd be more expensive that way. But by all means, pay me like the bankers get paid. % of the deal. I'd kill for that and blame my conservative brothers of the bar for being too chicken shit to take the risk.

    "Oh, oh, but we might do a lot of work and not get paid!!!"

    Yeah, like that would happen.

    At least on the business side, legal fees are some of the best value you'll get out of professional services. I fucking counsel on shit that has nothing to do with legal work all the time. That's free advice on shit that is outside of my concern.

    But go ahead and do the work yourself. Please.
    I wish I could get paid a percentage of all the money my clients didn't lose because of some dumbass agreement they would have entered into without me.

    Instead, I just get my negotiated flat fee or my hourly.
    $20 per hour sounds about right for your talents.
    Who does HH bill for all the hours he spends on HCH?
    Why would I need to bill anyone, Detective?
    For someone who seems to dislike Trump, you sure argue like him. Especially in your reductive namecalling. "Detective", "Boris" etc., is no different than "Crooked Hillary", Lyin' Ted', etc.

    Irony abound
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    edited April 2022

    Sources said:

    Bob_C said:

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    Bob_C said:

    Why do you idiots always send an “invoice” that is actually a statement of total open work and then fuck up the application of payments when I make them?

    I've been practicing law for 23 years and I have never written or read the words "open work" or "pro forma" on a legal invoice, nor heard of anyone doing the same, and I used to send them out for years and have been reviewing and approving them for even longer. The legal invoice is about as simple as it gets.

    "I worked on this thing for you for 1.7 hours. I worked on this other thing for you for .5 hours." I mean, who else in the fuck does that tedious shit? We? should bill you like the plumber does: "You want [hot water in your bathroom?] [access to capital markets and compliance with the federal securities laws?] It's going to cost you $[a shit load of money]. Take it or leave it."

    The very best of the best, like Cravath, Skadden Arps, Davis Polk, etc. don't even bother with the details, which is how it should be. "For Services Rendered ..................................... $964,000. See you next month."

    And businesses gladly pay it, and not because they're stupid. But because some of us still operate in a market.
    I’m naming names, Perkins Coie.
    Perkins is not in the same universe as NYC elite. It's been a Seattle pillar for some time, but those days may be over with national firms moving in now that Seattle is on the cusp of being a legitimate market.
    Perkins deserves the diarrhea bath its reputation is taking of late. Elias, Sussman and the rest of the Dem Lying Whore Sellouts who fabricated the Steel Dossier and the entire Russian Collusion Hoax need to be jailed and disbarred. Too bad, but filling the ranks with feminists and DC lobbyists always leads to this shit: Get woke, Go broke.

    Too bad. Used to be a respectable top-drawer firm. But not anymore.
    I dealt with PC years ago. Their attorney was good, I’ll admit that. Skillful with the questions.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,045 Standard Supporter
    trublue said:

    HHusky said:

    Sources said:

    My group relies solely on alternative fee arrangements. Much simpler and cleaner.

    Pro formas and hourly billable is fuckery of the highest degree.

    I'd be more expensive that way. But by all means, pay me like the bankers get paid. % of the deal. I'd kill for that and blame my conservative brothers of the bar for being too chicken shit to take the risk.

    "Oh, oh, but we might do a lot of work and not get paid!!!"

    Yeah, like that would happen.

    At least on the business side, legal fees are some of the best value you'll get out of professional services. I fucking counsel on shit that has nothing to do with legal work all the time. That's free advice on shit that is outside of my concern.

    But go ahead and do the work yourself. Please.
    I wish I could get paid a percentage of all the money my clients didn't lose because of some dumbass agreement they would have entered into without me.

    Instead, I just get my negotiated flat fee or my hourly.
    $20 per hour sounds about right for your talents.
    Who does HH bill for all the hours he spends on HCH?
    His parents or wife obviously pay the bills.