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Bob_C
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Why do you idiots always send an “invoice” that is actually a statement of total open work and then fuck up the application of payments when I make them?
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Attorneys are by far the worst accountants on the planet. And it's not even close.Bob_C said:Why do you idiots always send an “invoice” that is actually a statement of total open work and then fuck up the application of payments when I make them?
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The Hobbit was a greater piece of non-fiction work than 80% of all legal bills.PurpleThrobber said:
Attorneys are by far the worst accountants on the planet. And it's not even close.Bob_C said:Why do you idiots always send an “invoice” that is actually a statement of total open work and then fuck up the application of payments when I make them?
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My group relies solely on alternative fee arrangements. Much simpler and cleaner.
Pro formas and hourly billable is fuckery of the highest degree. -
I'd be more expensive that way. But by all means, pay me like the bankers get paid. % of the deal. I'd kill for that and blame my conservative brothers of the bar for being too chicken shit to take the risk.Sources said:My group relies solely on alternative fee arrangements. Much simpler and cleaner.
Pro formas and hourly billable is fuckery of the highest degree.
"Oh, oh, but we might do a lot of work and not get paid!!!"
Yeah, like that would happen.
At least on the business side, legal fees are some of the best value you'll get out of professional services. I fucking counsel on shit that has nothing to do with legal work all the time. That's free advice on shit that is outside of my concern.
But go ahead and do the work yourself. Please. -
I've been practicing law for 23 years and I have never written or read the words "open work" or "pro forma" on a legal invoice, nor heard of anyone doing the same, and I used to send them out for years and have been reviewing and approving them for even longer. The legal invoice is about as simple as it gets.Bob_C said:Why do you idiots always send an “invoice” that is actually a statement of total open work and then fuck up the application of payments when I make them?
"I worked on this thing for you for 1.7 hours. I worked on this other thing for you for .5 hours." I mean, who else in the fuck does that tedious shit? We? should bill you like the plumber does: "You want [hot water in your bathroom?] [access to capital markets and compliance with the federal securities laws?] It's going to cost you $[a shit load of money]. Take it or leave it."
The very best of the best, like Cravath, Skadden Arps, Davis Polk, etc. don't even bother with the details, which is how it should be. "For Services Rendered ..................................... $964,000. See you next month."
And businesses gladly pay it, and not because they're stupid. But because some of us still operate in a market. -
Think of the Dazzler, then think of the Dazzler honestly listing the amount of time he has worked on a particular project.
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Of course there are people who lie. Every line of work.SFGbob said:Think of the Dazzler, then think of the Dazzler honestly listing the amount of time he has worked on a particular project.
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I wish I could get paid a percentage of all the money my clients didn't lose because of some dumbass agreement they would have entered into without me.creepycoug said:
I'd be more expensive that way. But by all means, pay me like the bankers get paid. % of the deal. I'd kill for that and blame my conservative brothers of the bar for being too chicken shit to take the risk.Sources said:My group relies solely on alternative fee arrangements. Much simpler and cleaner.
Pro formas and hourly billable is fuckery of the highest degree.
"Oh, oh, but we might do a lot of work and not get paid!!!"
Yeah, like that would happen.
At least on the business side, legal fees are some of the best value you'll get out of professional services. I fucking counsel on shit that has nothing to do with legal work all the time. That's free advice on shit that is outside of my concern.
But go ahead and do the work yourself. Please.
Instead, I just get my negotiated flat fee or my hourly. -
This is when you should know you take this place too seriously.SFGbob said:Think of the Dazzler, then think of the Dazzler honestly listing the amount of time he has worked on a particular project.
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Yeah, it's a real stretch to believe a pathological liar with zero integrity would ever pad his legal bills.HHusky said:
This is when you should know you take this place too seriously.SFGbob said:Think of the Dazzler, then think of the Dazzler honestly listing the amount of time he has worked on a particular project.
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You might want to spend a moment in self-reflection next time.SFGbob said:
Yeah, it's a real stretch to believe a pathological liar with zero integrity would ever pad his legal bills.HHusky said:
This is when you should know you take this place too seriously.SFGbob said:Think of the Dazzler, then think of the Dazzler honestly listing the amount of time he has worked on a particular project.
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I'm reflected quite a bit on this. Pathological liars, of which you are one, don't think twice about doing unethical things. Dazzler, you have zero fucking personality integrity and even less honesty but I'm supposed to believe that when it comes to your legal bills you're the paragon of rectitude? Fuck off Dazzler. You have more than earned the reputation you have here Dazzler.HHusky said:
You might want to spend a moment in self-reflection next time.SFGbob said:
Yeah, it's a real stretch to believe a pathological liar with zero integrity would ever pad his legal bills.HHusky said:
This is when you should know you take this place too seriously.SFGbob said:Think of the Dazzler, then think of the Dazzler honestly listing the amount of time he has worked on a particular project.
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Andy Ngo once again doing god's work. You think there is any difference between the dazzler and Joe Walsh (not that Joe Walsh) and the rest of the dem lying morons. The dazzler and his ilk don't even try to pretend they are telling the "truth". To them lying is the proper moral choice. Fake but accurate is the "new journalism".
https://www.newsweek.com/democratic-influencers-media-figures-spread-fake-tucker-carlson-quote-opinion-1695297
n Monday, former Republican and ex-congressman Joe Walsh fabricated a Tucker Carlson quote on Twitter. It immediately caught the attention of Democrats and anti-Trump Republicans who hope to see the Fox News host canceled.
Walsh attributed the following statement to Carlson: "What if these bodies of tortured, dead civilians were staged? What if they're fake? What if the Ukrainian military killed them and then blamed Russia? I'm not saying any of this is true, I'm just asking the questions. Why can't we ask these questions?"
The quote repeating Russia's propaganda and denial of war crimes in Bucha, Ukraine, instantly went viral. On Reddit, a screenshot of Walsh's post has nearly 60,000 upvotes with thousands of comments decrying what users believe are Carlson's traitorous views. But Twitter is where the fake quote found currency among powerful and influential figures close to the Democratic Party.
The list of those who spread the fake quote is a who's who of Democratic boosters, politicians, celebrities and even journalists. It includes former Trump impeachment prosecutor Daniel Goldman, MSNBC host Joy-Ann Reid, Daily Beast columnist Wajahat Ali and Obama White House deputy chief of staff Alyssa Mastromonaco.
Numerous media figures appeared to take the fake quote at face value. "It should trouble every American that the right wing and Trump are in absolute sync (and have been) with Putin," tweeted Luke Zaleski, legal affairs editor and fact-checker at global media company Condé Nast, which owns The New Yorker, Vanity Fair, GQ, Teen Vogue and other publications. "Their talking points and anti-democratic actions and agendas are antagonistic to the rule of law and ongoing--and have led to two impeachments and an attack on congress"
Richard Ojeda, spokesman for No Dem Left Behind—a PAC which helps elect Democratic candidates in rural areas—tweeted: "I understand freedom of speech but in WWII they shaved the heads of women who crawled in bed with the enemy. I think it's time to pull out the clippers. PISS ON TUCKER CARLSON!"
Reid, who has a history of spreading misleading information for partisan purposes, accused her broadcast host competitor of "getting his show scripts straight from the Kremlin or the GRU," Russia's foreign military intelligence agency. In March of last year, she similarly accused Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson of being an agent of Moscow.
Anti-Trump activist and writer Amy Siskind called on Fox News and its owner Rupert Murdoch to take Carlson's show off the air in response to Walsh's fake Carlson quote. This was not Siskind's first time falling for a hoax, either. In February 2021, Siskind posted a threatening email she allegedly received that she falsely attributed to this writer.
It wasn't only left-wing partisans who fell for the made-up quote. Anti-Trump Republican congressman Adam Kinzinger wrote, "I gotta say, if [Carlson] is not a Russian asset he should be, he is absolutely over-qualified for the job. Is he a Russian asset? I don't know, just asking questions." The Fox News host had previously mocked Kinzinger on air for sharing a photoshopped meme of the "Ghost of Kyiv" pilot the congressman appeared to believe was authentic.
We've seen Democrats and their allies spread misinformation and conspiracy theories in hopes of smearing their political opponents before—even after those claims have been debunked. Michael Wolff's 2018 anti-Trump bestseller, Fire and Fury, printed sensational quotes and anecdotes that were quickly rejected as fake by those they implicated. But they were nonetheless amplified on mainstream media because they "rang true." Late on Monday night, Walsh recycled this defense. He admitted he fabricated the quote and defended his action: "I was predicting what @TuckerCarlson would say 'tonight.'...It's EXACTLY the kind of thing Putin-lover Tucker would & has said." ...
Those who scream and shout the loudest about stopping misinformation have no issue spreading it themselves when it benefits their cause. For all of Twitter's promises to fight misinformation, the fabricated quote remains online without a disclaimer, as of this writing.
Democratic and Republican war hawks agitating for an American military confrontation with Russia view Carlson's anti-war stance as a threat. Unable to get the popular prime time Fox News host canceled, they've turned to spreading falsehoods to frame him as an agent of the Kremlin. But Carlson's skepticism of both Ukrainian and Russian officials' claims since the war began is not the same as being pro-Kremlin. And while he's only one man, mischaracterizing his views—or making outlandish claims about his arguments—stifles debate about a foreign policy issue that could bring far broader consequences.
Andy Ngo is the author of Unmasked: Inside Antifa's Radical Plan to Destroy Democracy. -
The question wasn’t addressed towards lying shitty lawyers. The door is over there. Don’t let it hit you in your lardass.HHusky said:
I wish I could get paid a percentage of all the money my clients didn't lose because of some dumbass agreement they would have entered into without me.creepycoug said:
I'd be more expensive that way. But by all means, pay me like the bankers get paid. % of the deal. I'd kill for that and blame my conservative brothers of the bar for being too chicken shit to take the risk.Sources said:My group relies solely on alternative fee arrangements. Much simpler and cleaner.
Pro formas and hourly billable is fuckery of the highest degree.
"Oh, oh, but we might do a lot of work and not get paid!!!"
Yeah, like that would happen.
At least on the business side, legal fees are some of the best value you'll get out of professional services. I fucking counsel on shit that has nothing to do with legal work all the time. That's free advice on shit that is outside of my concern.
But go ahead and do the work yourself. Please.
Instead, I just get my negotiated flat fee or my hourly. -
You’re not a believable person. You’re tainted by Hands Up, Don’t Shoot. Just admit it was a lie and try to be an honest person moving forward. You’ll thank me later for my intervention.HHusky said:
You might want to spend a moment in self-reflection next time.SFGbob said:
Yeah, it's a real stretch to believe a pathological liar with zero integrity would ever pad his legal bills.HHusky said:
This is when you should know you take this place too seriously.SFGbob said:Think of the Dazzler, then think of the Dazzler honestly listing the amount of time he has worked on a particular project.
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The question was for lawyers . . . STFU . . . Slither away like the reptilian creature you are.HHusky said:
I wish I could get paid a percentage of all the money my clients didn't lose because of some dumbass agreement they would have entered into without me.creepycoug said:
I'd be more expensive that way. But by all means, pay me like the bankers get paid. % of the deal. I'd kill for that and blame my conservative brothers of the bar for being too chicken shit to take the risk.Sources said:My group relies solely on alternative fee arrangements. Much simpler and cleaner.
Pro formas and hourly billable is fuckery of the highest degree.
"Oh, oh, but we might do a lot of work and not get paid!!!"
Yeah, like that would happen.
At least on the business side, legal fees are some of the best value you'll get out of professional services. I fucking counsel on shit that has nothing to do with legal work all the time. That's free advice on shit that is outside of my concern.
But go ahead and do the work yourself. Please.
Instead, I just get my negotiated flat fee or my hourly.
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When your pretending to be a lawyer?creepycoug said:
I'd be more expensive that way. But by all means, pay me like the bankers get paid. % of the deal. I'd kill for that and blame my conservative brothers of the bar for being too chicken shit to take the risk.Sources said:My group relies solely on alternative fee arrangements. Much simpler and cleaner.
Pro formas and hourly billable is fuckery of the highest degree.
"Oh, oh, but we might do a lot of work and not get paid!!!"
Yeah, like that would happen.
At least on the business side, legal fees are some of the best value you'll get out of professional services. I fucking counsel on shit that has nothing to do with legal work all the time. That's free advice on shit that is outside of my concern.
But go ahead and do the work yourself. Please. -
Lolz. I've been pretending for a long time. I'm trying to remember the guy at the other site who started that. I was like, "hey, if I'm going to make up a story about myself, I can do better than Seattle lawyer for Christ's sake." His username had some reference to being the boss or something ... like topdawg or some shit like that. That dood did not like me. Hey, get in line motherfucker.UW_Doog_Bot said:
When your pretending to be a lawyer?creepycoug said:
I'd be more expensive that way. But by all means, pay me like the bankers get paid. % of the deal. I'd kill for that and blame my conservative brothers of the bar for being too chicken shit to take the risk.Sources said:My group relies solely on alternative fee arrangements. Much simpler and cleaner.
Pro formas and hourly billable is fuckery of the highest degree.
"Oh, oh, but we might do a lot of work and not get paid!!!"
Yeah, like that would happen.
At least on the business side, legal fees are some of the best value you'll get out of professional services. I fucking counsel on shit that has nothing to do with legal work all the time. That's free advice on shit that is outside of my concern.
But go ahead and do the work yourself. Please.
I don't know if you or others recall, but we were all over on that other site after being booted or abandoning doogman, and once day I find myself talking to two or three people and finally one of you, dnc, race or grumble come back over to the now-abandoned site and were like, "get your ass over to hardcorehusky. everybody left." creep ... always the last to know. been on these boards with some of you for over 20 years now and I still miss a lot of the inside baseball. -
Kind of hurtful, Detective.trublue said:
The question was for lawyers . . . STFU . . . Slither away like the reptilian creature you are.HHusky said:
I wish I could get paid a percentage of all the money my clients didn't lose because of some dumbass agreement they would have entered into without me.creepycoug said:
I'd be more expensive that way. But by all means, pay me like the bankers get paid. % of the deal. I'd kill for that and blame my conservative brothers of the bar for being too chicken shit to take the risk.Sources said:My group relies solely on alternative fee arrangements. Much simpler and cleaner.
Pro formas and hourly billable is fuckery of the highest degree.
"Oh, oh, but we might do a lot of work and not get paid!!!"
Yeah, like that would happen.
At least on the business side, legal fees are some of the best value you'll get out of professional services. I fucking counsel on shit that has nothing to do with legal work all the time. That's free advice on shit that is outside of my concern.
But go ahead and do the work yourself. Please.
Instead, I just get my negotiated flat fee or my hourly. -
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I’m naming names, Perkins Coie.creepycoug said:
I've been practicing law for 23 years and I have never written or read the words "open work" or "pro forma" on a legal invoice, nor heard of anyone doing the same, and I used to send them out for years and have been reviewing and approving them for even longer. The legal invoice is about as simple as it gets.Bob_C said:Why do you idiots always send an “invoice” that is actually a statement of total open work and then fuck up the application of payments when I make them?
"I worked on this thing for you for 1.7 hours. I worked on this other thing for you for .5 hours." I mean, who else in the fuck does that tedious shit? We? should bill you like the plumber does: "You want [hot water in your bathroom?] [access to capital markets and compliance with the federal securities laws?] It's going to cost you $[a shit load of money]. Take it or leave it."
The very best of the best, like Cravath, Skadden Arps, Davis Polk, etc. don't even bother with the details, which is how it should be. "For Services Rendered ..................................... $964,000. See you next month."
And businesses gladly pay it, and not because they're stupid. But because some of us still operate in a market. -
The Clinton law firmBob_C said:T
I’m naming names, Perkins Coie.creepycoug said:
I've been practicing law for 23 years and I have never written or read the words "open work" or "pro forma" on a legal invoice, nor heard of anyone doing the same, and I used to send them out for years and have been reviewing and approving them for even longer. The legal invoice is about as simple as it gets.Bob_C said:Why do you idiots always send an “invoice” that is actually a statement of total open work and then fuck up the application of payments when I make them?
"I worked on this thing for you for 1.7 hours. I worked on this other thing for you for .5 hours." I mean, who else in the fuck does that tedious shit? We? should bill you like the plumber does: "You want [hot water in your bathroom?] [access to capital markets and compliance with the federal securities laws?] It's going to cost you $[a shit load of money]. Take it or leave it."
The very best of the best, like Cravath, Skadden Arps, Davis Polk, etc. don't even bother with the details, which is how it should be. "For Services Rendered ..................................... $964,000. See you next month."
And businesses gladly pay it, and not because they're stupid. But because some of us still operate in a market.
Makes sense
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Perkins is not in the same universe as NYC elite. It's been a Seattle pillar for some time, but those days may be over with national firms moving in now that Seattle is on the cusp of being a legitimate market.Bob_C said:T
I’m naming names, Perkins Coie.creepycoug said:
I've been practicing law for 23 years and I have never written or read the words "open work" or "pro forma" on a legal invoice, nor heard of anyone doing the same, and I used to send them out for years and have been reviewing and approving them for even longer. The legal invoice is about as simple as it gets.Bob_C said:Why do you idiots always send an “invoice” that is actually a statement of total open work and then fuck up the application of payments when I make them?
"I worked on this thing for you for 1.7 hours. I worked on this other thing for you for .5 hours." I mean, who else in the fuck does that tedious shit? We? should bill you like the plumber does: "You want [hot water in your bathroom?] [access to capital markets and compliance with the federal securities laws?] It's going to cost you $[a shit load of money]. Take it or leave it."
The very best of the best, like Cravath, Skadden Arps, Davis Polk, etc. don't even bother with the details, which is how it should be. "For Services Rendered ..................................... $964,000. See you next month."
And businesses gladly pay it, and not because they're stupid. But because some of us still operate in a market. -
I would say "not in the same universe" is a little strong, but agree that Perkins is not on that list I started. Perkins is to Cravath as the Pac 12 is to the SEC! @Fire_Marshall_Bill @RaceBannonSources said:
Perkins is not in the same universe as NYC elite. It's been a Seattle pillar for some time, but those days may be over with national firms moving in now that Seattle is on the cusp of being a legitimate market.Bob_C said:T
I’m naming names, Perkins Coie.creepycoug said:
I've been practicing law for 23 years and I have never written or read the words "open work" or "pro forma" on a legal invoice, nor heard of anyone doing the same, and I used to send them out for years and have been reviewing and approving them for even longer. The legal invoice is about as simple as it gets.Bob_C said:Why do you idiots always send an “invoice” that is actually a statement of total open work and then fuck up the application of payments when I make them?
"I worked on this thing for you for 1.7 hours. I worked on this other thing for you for .5 hours." I mean, who else in the fuck does that tedious shit? We? should bill you like the plumber does: "You want [hot water in your bathroom?] [access to capital markets and compliance with the federal securities laws?] It's going to cost you $[a shit load of money]. Take it or leave it."
The very best of the best, like Cravath, Skadden Arps, Davis Polk, etc. don't even bother with the details, which is how it should be. "For Services Rendered ..................................... $964,000. See you next month."
And businesses gladly pay it, and not because they're stupid. But because some of us still operate in a market. -
$20 per hour sounds about right for your talents.HHusky said:
I wish I could get paid a percentage of all the money my clients didn't lose because of some dumbass agreement they would have entered into without me.creepycoug said:
I'd be more expensive that way. But by all means, pay me like the bankers get paid. % of the deal. I'd kill for that and blame my conservative brothers of the bar for being too chicken shit to take the risk.Sources said:My group relies solely on alternative fee arrangements. Much simpler and cleaner.
Pro formas and hourly billable is fuckery of the highest degree.
"Oh, oh, but we might do a lot of work and not get paid!!!"
Yeah, like that would happen.
At least on the business side, legal fees are some of the best value you'll get out of professional services. I fucking counsel on shit that has nothing to do with legal work all the time. That's free advice on shit that is outside of my concern.
But go ahead and do the work yourself. Please.
Instead, I just get my negotiated flat fee or my hourly. -
Perkins deserves the diarrhea bath its reputation is taking of late. Elias, Sussman and the rest of the Dem Lying Whore Sellouts who fabricated the Steel Dossier and the entire Russian Collusion Hoax need to be jailed and disbarred. Too bad, but filling the ranks with feminists and DC lobbyists always leads to this shit: Get woke, Go broke.Sources said:
Perkins is not in the same universe as NYC elite. It's been a Seattle pillar for some time, but those days may be over with national firms moving in now that Seattle is on the cusp of being a legitimate market.Bob_C said:T
I’m naming names, Perkins Coie.creepycoug said:
I've been practicing law for 23 years and I have never written or read the words "open work" or "pro forma" on a legal invoice, nor heard of anyone doing the same, and I used to send them out for years and have been reviewing and approving them for even longer. The legal invoice is about as simple as it gets.Bob_C said:Why do you idiots always send an “invoice” that is actually a statement of total open work and then fuck up the application of payments when I make them?
"I worked on this thing for you for 1.7 hours. I worked on this other thing for you for .5 hours." I mean, who else in the fuck does that tedious shit? We? should bill you like the plumber does: "You want [hot water in your bathroom?] [access to capital markets and compliance with the federal securities laws?] It's going to cost you $[a shit load of money]. Take it or leave it."
The very best of the best, like Cravath, Skadden Arps, Davis Polk, etc. don't even bother with the details, which is how it should be. "For Services Rendered ..................................... $964,000. See you next month."
And businesses gladly pay it, and not because they're stupid. But because some of us still operate in a market.
Too bad. Used to be a respectable top-drawer firm. But not anymore. -
Crane, Poole & Schmidt handles all the Throbber’s legal work.
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I've always had good luck with the Gays.
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I don't keep stats on law firms, but the SEC is the most overrated sports entity in major American sports over the past 50 years and it's not closecreepycoug said:
I would say "not in the same universe" is a little strong, but agree that Perkins is not on that list I started. Perkins is to Cravath as the Pac 12 is to the SEC! @Fire_Marshall_Bill @RaceBannonSources said:
Perkins is not in the same universe as NYC elite. It's been a Seattle pillar for some time, but those days may be over with national firms moving in now that Seattle is on the cusp of being a legitimate market.Bob_C said:T
I’m naming names, Perkins Coie.creepycoug said:
I've been practicing law for 23 years and I have never written or read the words "open work" or "pro forma" on a legal invoice, nor heard of anyone doing the same, and I used to send them out for years and have been reviewing and approving them for even longer. The legal invoice is about as simple as it gets.Bob_C said:Why do you idiots always send an “invoice” that is actually a statement of total open work and then fuck up the application of payments when I make them?
"I worked on this thing for you for 1.7 hours. I worked on this other thing for you for .5 hours." I mean, who else in the fuck does that tedious shit? We? should bill you like the plumber does: "You want [hot water in your bathroom?] [access to capital markets and compliance with the federal securities laws?] It's going to cost you $[a shit load of money]. Take it or leave it."
The very best of the best, like Cravath, Skadden Arps, Davis Polk, etc. don't even bother with the details, which is how it should be. "For Services Rendered ..................................... $964,000. See you next month."
And businesses gladly pay it, and not because they're stupid. But because some of us still operate in a market. -
You're a pretend lawyer like I'm a beavletcreepycoug said:
Lolz. I've been pretending for a long time. I'm trying to remember the guy at the other site who started that. I was like, "hey, if I'm going to make up a story about myself, I can do better than Seattle lawyer for Christ's sake." His username had some reference to being the boss or something ... like topdawg or some shit like that. That dood did not like me. Hey, get in line motherfucker.UW_Doog_Bot said:
When your pretending to be a lawyer?creepycoug said:
I'd be more expensive that way. But by all means, pay me like the bankers get paid. % of the deal. I'd kill for that and blame my conservative brothers of the bar for being too chicken shit to take the risk.Sources said:My group relies solely on alternative fee arrangements. Much simpler and cleaner.
Pro formas and hourly billable is fuckery of the highest degree.
"Oh, oh, but we might do a lot of work and not get paid!!!"
Yeah, like that would happen.
At least on the business side, legal fees are some of the best value you'll get out of professional services. I fucking counsel on shit that has nothing to do with legal work all the time. That's free advice on shit that is outside of my concern.
But go ahead and do the work yourself. Please.
I don't know if you or others recall, but we were all over on that other site after being booted or abandoning doogman, and once day I find myself talking to two or three people and finally one of you, dnc, race or grumble come back over to the now-abandoned site and were like, "get your ass over to hardcorehusky. everybody left." creep ... always the last to know. been on these boards with some of you for over 20 years now and I still miss a lot of the inside baseball.
I think it was obk that claimed I was a beav lol -
Who does HH bill for all the hours he spends on HCH?TurdBomber said:
$20 per hour sounds about right for your talents.HHusky said:
I wish I could get paid a percentage of all the money my clients didn't lose because of some dumbass agreement they would have entered into without me.creepycoug said:
I'd be more expensive that way. But by all means, pay me like the bankers get paid. % of the deal. I'd kill for that and blame my conservative brothers of the bar for being too chicken shit to take the risk.Sources said:My group relies solely on alternative fee arrangements. Much simpler and cleaner.
Pro formas and hourly billable is fuckery of the highest degree.
"Oh, oh, but we might do a lot of work and not get paid!!!"
Yeah, like that would happen.
At least on the business side, legal fees are some of the best value you'll get out of professional services. I fucking counsel on shit that has nothing to do with legal work all the time. That's free advice on shit that is outside of my concern.
But go ahead and do the work yourself. Please.
Instead, I just get my negotiated flat fee or my hourly.
