Wait. We STILL think this is a sales problem and not a lack of payola problem!? JFC, what's it going to take to convince people that it is and always has been about money for most of the top prospects? Are the schools going to have to post videos of the cash briefcase deliveries on YouTube?
I don't know I kind of think Oregon offered the kid a giant bag to play a five hour drive from home and just as much exposure as UW or USC and way more promotion. Might not be more complicated than that.
On the field it actually made some sense when Cristobal was at Oregon because his whole scheme seemed focused on making the OL look as good as possible. Now it doesn't really make any sense especially with new and questionable OC/OL coach coming on.
The worst part is how little I seem to give a shit about this.
Oregon is committed to winning. UW isn’t and SC is still coming off a 4-8 season.
Also, I am not sure why Klemm is a questionable OL coach. He coached under Mora and they had offenses that averaged over 32 a game. He also had a lot of NFL players.
Dillingham is an unknown. So, I get that. However, Klemm/Dillingham sold him on a more pro-style offense and convinced him SC was Air-Raid.
I don't know I kind of think Oregon offered the kid a giant bag to play a five hour drive from home and just as much exposure as UW or USC and way more promotion. Might not be more complicated than that.
On the field it actually made some sense when Cristobal was at Oregon because his whole scheme seemed focused on making the OL look as good as possible. Now it doesn't really make any sense especially with new and questionable OC/OL coach coming on.
The worst part is how little I seem to give a shit about this.
Oregon is committed to winning. UW isn’t and SC is still coming off a 4-8 season.
Also, I am not sure why Klemm is a questionable OL coach. He coached under Mora and they had offenses that averaged over 32 a game. He also had a lot of NFL players.
Dillingham is an unknown. So, I get that. However, Klemm/Dillingham sold him on a more pro-style offense and convinced him SC was Air-Raid.
Lol. If you think Klemm was anything but a complete abortion of an OL coach at UCLA or that him talking "scheme" was what convinced Connerly to pick the Ducks you are truly retarded
I don't know I kind of think Oregon offered the kid a giant bag to play a five hour drive from home and just as much exposure as UW or USC and way more promotion. Might not be more complicated than that.
On the field it actually made some sense when Cristobal was at Oregon because his whole scheme seemed focused on making the OL look as good as possible. Now it doesn't really make any sense especially with new and questionable OC/OL coach coming on.
The worst part is how little I seem to give a shit about this.
Oregon is committed to winning. UW isn’t and SC is still coming off a 4-8 season.
Also, I am not sure why Klemm is a questionable OL coach. He coached under Mora and they had offenses that averaged over 32 a game. He also had a lot of NFL players.
Dillingham is an unknown. So, I get that. However, Klemm/Dillingham sold him on a more pro-style offense and convinced him SC was Air-Raid.
Lol. If you think Klemm was anything but a complete abortion of an OL coach at UCLA or that him talking "scheme" was what convinced Connerly to pick the Ducks you are truly retarded
No. I think UW fans love to create the narrative that spins it favorably for them. You know that Mora/Mazzone were dysfunctional. Klemm recruited and developed a decent amount of NFL talent.
Also, Oregon has the last 4 #1 classes in the PAC-12. Oregon’s NIL deal wasn’t any better than SCs.
It’s funny. I just looked at every drafted OL from UCLA since 1999. Every single one of them was coached by Klemm for multiple years.
UCLA had zero OL development in the 2000’s outside of Klemm (Chip will continue it). It has been in recent history one of the worst developers at OL in the PAC.
He also did that under an average head coach and the epitome of an average OC.
So your suggestion is that a kid waited until mid-April to commit, and it was the OL coach and scheme that pushed him over the edge? That seems logical to you?
Either Oregon's package was better or they matched USC and are closer to home. Why does it have to be more complicated than that? It has nothing to do with liking one staff or not liking another, liking one system or not liking another.
So your suggestion is that a kid waited until mid-April to commit, and it was the OL coach and scheme that pushed him over the edge? That seems logical to you?
Either Oregon's package was better or they matched USC and are closer to home. Why does it have to be more complicated than that? It has nothing to do with liking one staff or not liking another, liking one system or not liking another.
There’s direct quotes from him not wanting to play in an Air-Raid offense. I also think the NIL deal was on equal footing and he preferred proximity. He also said he thinks Oregon has the better team now.
I think it was a multi-factored decision. I think the delay shows it was close and everything factored into his decision rather than it being simple.
So your suggestion is that a kid waited until mid-April to commit, and it was the OL coach and scheme that pushed him over the edge? That seems logical to you?
Either Oregon's package was better or they matched USC and are closer to home. Why does it have to be more complicated than that? It has nothing to do with liking one staff or not liking another, liking one system or not liking another.
In all seriousness, Washington's ability to keep big in-state recruits has been shockingly bad. A program just a few years removed from having some really talented players and looking something like a NFL pipeline.
One thing is apparent: the way DWAGs view the advantages of signing with Washington and the way 18 year old kids view the situation are totally different.
Any time DeBoer is recruiting a HS athlete, he's actually just laying the groundwork for when they're in the portal
That actually was a talking point over at Dawgman from Kim and Scott along with their podcast.
How bad must recruiting really be going when you have to try and spin that as a positive narrative.
In all seriousness, Washington's ability to keep big in-state recruits has been shockingly bad. A program just a few years removed from having some really talented players and looking something like a NFL pipeline.
One thing is apparent: the way DWAGs view the advantages of signing with Washington and the way 18 year old kids view the situation are totally different.
Any time DeBoer is recruiting a HS athlete, he's actually just laying the groundwork for when they're in the portal
That actually was a talking point over at Dawgman from Kim and Scott along with their podcast.
How bad must recruiting really be going when you have to try and spin that as a positive narrative.
It’s a stupid point because you still have to play the NIL game with anybody in the portal
I don't know I kind of think Oregon offered the kid a giant bag to play a five hour drive from home and just as much exposure as UW or USC and way more promotion. Might not be more complicated than that.
On the field it actually made some sense when Cristobal was at Oregon because his whole scheme seemed focused on making the OL look as good as possible. Now it doesn't really make any sense especially with new and questionable OC/OL coach coming on.
The worst part is how little I seem to give a shit about this.
In the stages of grief process, you are at acceptance which is positive, b/c soon after comes #apathy which I have seen only one other time the last 40 years rivaling where UW football is at today with the fan base and that was TW final season.
Bagging on Dawgman crew is lay up easy, but have to give Chris credit. Kim and Scott won't come out and say it, but you can tell they are thinking it, but Fetters did and said that Kalen needs to do something to get people interested and talking about UW football again, and shutting the media out of practice isn't helping him in that regard.
You are correct Connerly went to Oregon b/c their NIL package was either superior or close enough to SC's that he chose to play in Eugene over LA. Doesn't matter how shitty or great Klemm is as OL coach, as 99% of kids at his level believe they are going to play at the next level no matter where they go or who's coaching them.
I don't know I kind of think Oregon offered the kid a giant bag to play a five hour drive from home and just as much exposure as UW or USC and way more promotion. Might not be more complicated than that.
On the field it actually made some sense when Cristobal was at Oregon because his whole scheme seemed focused on making the OL look as good as possible. Now it doesn't really make any sense especially with new and questionable OC/OL coach coming on.
The worst part is how little I seem to give a shit about this.
In the stages of grief process, you are at acceptance which is positive, b/c soon after comes #apathy which I have seen only one other time the last 40 years rivaling where UW football is at today with the fan base and that was TW final season.
Bagging on Dawgman crew is lay up easy, but have to give Chris credit. Kim and Scott won't come out and say it, but you can tell they are thinking it, but Fetters did and said that Kalen needs to do something to get people interested and talking about UW football again, and shutting the media out of practice isn't helping him in that regard.
You are correct Connerly went to Oregon b/c their NIL package was either superior or close enough to SC's that he chose to play in Eugene over LA. Doesn't matter how shitty or great Klemm is as OL coach, as 99% of kids at his level believe they are going to play at the next level no matter where they go or who's coaching them.
KDB is able to close up practice because the AD is completely ok with that
In contrast at TCU where they also have a 1st year HC, it’s been all about opening everything possible for access to the community
I don't know I kind of think Oregon offered the kid a giant bag to play a five hour drive from home and just as much exposure as UW or USC and way more promotion. Might not be more complicated than that.
On the field it actually made some sense when Cristobal was at Oregon because his whole scheme seemed focused on making the OL look as good as possible. Now it doesn't really make any sense especially with new and questionable OC/OL coach coming on.
The worst part is how little I seem to give a shit about this.
In the stages of grief process, you are at acceptance which is positive, b/c soon after comes #apathy which I have seen only one other time the last 40 years rivaling where UW football is at today with the fan base and that was TW final season.
Bagging on Dawgman crew is lay up easy, but have to give Chris credit. Kim and Scott won't come out and say it, but you can tell they are thinking it, but Fetters did and said that Kalen needs to do something to get people interested and talking about UW football again, and shutting the media out of practice isn't helping him in that regard.
You are correct Connerly went to Oregon b/c their NIL package was either superior or close enough to SC's that he chose to play in Eugene over LA. Doesn't matter how shitty or great Klemm is as OL coach, as 99% of kids at his level believe they are going to play at the next level no matter where they go or who's coaching them.
KDB is able to close up practice because the AD is completely ok with that
In contrast at TCU where they also have a 1st year HC, it’s been all about opening everything possible for access to the community
Night and day difference
FWIW, the less Jen does with the football program, the better.
I don't know I kind of think Oregon offered the kid a giant bag to play a five hour drive from home and just as much exposure as UW or USC and way more promotion. Might not be more complicated than that.
On the field it actually made some sense when Cristobal was at Oregon because his whole scheme seemed focused on making the OL look as good as possible. Now it doesn't really make any sense especially with new and questionable OC/OL coach coming on.
The worst part is how little I seem to give a shit about this.
In the stages of grief process, you are at acceptance which is positive, b/c soon after comes #apathy which I have seen only one other time the last 40 years rivaling where UW football is at today with the fan base and that was TW final season.
Bagging on Dawgman crew is lay up easy, but have to give Chris credit. Kim and Scott won't come out and say it, but you can tell they are thinking it, but Fetters did and said that Kalen needs to do something to get people interested and talking about UW football again, and shutting the media out of practice isn't helping him in that regard.
You are correct Connerly went to Oregon b/c their NIL package was either superior or close enough to SC's that he chose to play in Eugene over LA. Doesn't matter how shitty or great Klemm is as OL coach, as 99% of kids at his level believe they are going to play at the next level no matter where they go or who's coaching them.
KDB is able to close up practice because the AD is completely ok with that
In contrast at TCU where they also have a 1st year HC, it’s been all about opening everything possible for access to the community
Night and day difference
Helfrich opened things up as an olive branch to the media after chip left, too. It means fuck all
I don't know I kind of think Oregon offered the kid a giant bag to play a five hour drive from home and just as much exposure as UW or USC and way more promotion. Might not be more complicated than that.
On the field it actually made some sense when Cristobal was at Oregon because his whole scheme seemed focused on making the OL look as good as possible. Now it doesn't really make any sense especially with new and questionable OC/OL coach coming on.
The worst part is how little I seem to give a shit about this.
In the stages of grief process, you are at acceptance which is positive, b/c soon after comes #apathy which I have seen only one other time the last 40 years rivaling where UW football is at today with the fan base and that was TW final season.
Bagging on Dawgman crew is lay up easy, but have to give Chris credit. Kim and Scott won't come out and say it, but you can tell they are thinking it, but Fetters did and said that Kalen needs to do something to get people interested and talking about UW football again, and shutting the media out of practice isn't helping him in that regard.
You are correct Connerly went to Oregon b/c their NIL package was either superior or close enough to SC's that he chose to play in Eugene over LA. Doesn't matter how shitty or great Klemm is as OL coach, as 99% of kids at his level believe they are going to play at the next level no matter where they go or who's coaching them.
KDB is able to close up practice because the AD is completely ok with that
In contrast at TCU where they also have a 1st year HC, it’s been all about opening everything possible for access to the community
Night and day difference
Helfrich opened things up as an olive branch to the media after chip left, too. It means fuck all
They are fucking idiots who jack off to hyperbolic nonsense.
Teq loves him some NIL discussion because it's an excuse for him to try and tell you some "Teq Thoughts" brain queefs that attempt to imply that he actually knows how business works.
I don't know I kind of think Oregon offered the kid a giant bag to play a five hour drive from home and just as much exposure as UW or USC and way more promotion. Might not be more complicated than that.
On the field it actually made some sense when Cristobal was at Oregon because his whole scheme seemed focused on making the OL look as good as possible. Now it doesn't really make any sense especially with new and questionable OC/OL coach coming on.
The worst part is how little I seem to give a shit about this.
In the stages of grief process, you are at acceptance which is positive, b/c soon after comes #apathy which I have seen only one other time the last 40 years rivaling where UW football is at today with the fan base and that was TW final season.
Bagging on Dawgman crew is lay up easy, but have to give Chris credit. Kim and Scott won't come out and say it, but you can tell they are thinking it, but Fetters did and said that Kalen needs to do something to get people interested and talking about UW football again, and shutting the media out of practice isn't helping him in that regard.
You are correct Connerly went to Oregon b/c their NIL package was either superior or close enough to SC's that he chose to play in Eugene over LA. Doesn't matter how shitty or great Klemm is as OL coach, as 99% of kids at his level believe they are going to play at the next level no matter where they go or who's coaching them.
KDB is able to close up practice because the AD is completely ok with that
In contrast at TCU where they also have a 1st year HC, it’s been all about opening everything possible for access to the community
Night and day difference
Helfrich opened things up as an olive branch to the media after chip left, too. It means fuck all
They are fucking idiots who jack off to hyperbolic nonsense.
Teq loves him some NIL discussion because it's an excuse for him to try and tell you some "Teq Thoughts" brain queefs that attempt to imply that he actually knows how business works.
So your suggestion is that a kid waited until mid-April to commit, and it was the OL coach and scheme that pushed him over the edge? That seems logical to you?
Either Oregon's package was better or they matched USC and are closer to home. Why does it have to be more complicated than that? It has nothing to do with liking one staff or not liking another, liking one system or not liking another.
Except he said the F’n exact opposite.
But. Ok.
So USC and Oregon's schemes have changed since signing day? The OL coach has changed since then? It's fucking April, so use some common sense.
Personally, I only mildly care about this kid choosing Oregon over USC, as neither is UW. But to beat your chest about this as if it's a program-validating event in any way other than willingness to pay is naive. To actually believe platitudes that the kid feeds the media after taking the bag is retardation levels of naive (what's he supposed to say, "I could give a shit about Oregon and their staff, but boy did I like the sound of their compensation package"?).
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Notice lots of apologists out there today trying to shift the onus on others donating money as the problem … the heat is on
Also, I am not sure why Klemm is a questionable OL coach. He coached under Mora and they had offenses that averaged over 32 a game. He also had a lot of NFL players.
Dillingham is an unknown. So, I get that. However, Klemm/Dillingham sold him on a more pro-style offense and convinced him SC was Air-Raid.
Also, Oregon has the last 4 #1 classes in the PAC-12. Oregon’s NIL deal wasn’t any better than SCs.
UCLA had zero OL development in the 2000’s outside of Klemm (Chip will continue it). It has been in recent history one of the worst developers at OL in the PAC.
He also did that under an average head coach and the epitome of an average OC.
Either Oregon's package was better or they matched USC and are closer to home. Why does it have to be more complicated than that? It has nothing to do with liking one staff or not liking another, liking one system or not liking another.
I think it was a multi-factored decision. I think the delay shows it was close and everything factored into his decision rather than it being simple.
But. Ok.
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We won’t get any points for comportment but It’s better than going 4-8, baby.
How bad must recruiting really be going when you have to try and spin that as a positive narrative.
Bagging on Dawgman crew is lay up easy, but have to give Chris credit. Kim and Scott won't come out and say it, but you can tell they are thinking it, but Fetters did and said that Kalen needs to do something to get people interested and talking about UW football again, and shutting the media out of practice isn't helping him in that regard.
You are correct Connerly went to Oregon b/c their NIL package was either superior or close enough to SC's that he chose to play in Eugene over LA. Doesn't matter how shitty or great Klemm is as OL coach, as 99% of kids at his level believe they are going to play at the next level no matter where they go or who's coaching them.
In contrast at TCU where they also have a 1st year HC, it’s been all about opening everything possible for access to the community
Night and day difference
They are fucking idiots who jack off to hyperbolic nonsense.
Teq loves him some NIL discussion because it's an excuse for him to try and tell you some "Teq Thoughts" brain queefs that attempt to imply that he actually knows how business works.
Personally, I only mildly care about this kid choosing Oregon over USC, as neither is UW. But to beat your chest about this as if it's a program-validating event in any way other than willingness to pay is naive. To actually believe platitudes that the kid feeds the media after taking the bag is retardation levels of naive (what's he supposed to say, "I could give a shit about Oregon and their staff, but boy did I like the sound of their compensation package"?).
@thechatch gets it.