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Doug Baldwin calls out 'Christians' who say they support Putin
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Our friend is a high end home builder and is our general contractor on the remodel. He has used these contractors for some time. Their work is top knotch and they really are nice polite individuals.RatherBeBrewing said:
You discuss politics and religion with your contractors?WestlinnDuck said:
I don't disagree that out of the millions of Christians in the US that some like the fact that Putin ostensibly supports elements of the Russian Orthodox Church. Personally, I don't know any of them. Just like the assertion that QAnon is in control of the conservative wing of the Republican party. Personally, I don't know of any white supremacist conservatives. Like where are they on this board if they are everywhere?RatherBeBrewing said:
What did I say that ruffled your feathers so much? What did I say that was inaccurate?trublue said:Interesting “narrative”.
I’m sure searching “Google” is the best way to find the “truth” about Evangelical Christians and what they believe.
I’m sure Google has no ax to grind on a topic like that and would never present Christians in a negative light.
C’mon man, give me a break.
Just because Biden is being directed by people who hate this country and want to fundamentally transform it into a Maoist paradise(?), don’t conflate that into ANY support whatsoever for Vladimir Putin. Zip. Zero. None. And I’m dead serious.
Note on inaccuracy: I didn’t mean to paint Pat Buchanan as an evangelical, I believe he’s a Catholic - but my original reply was to refute the statement that support for Putin is rare among Christians. At which point Putin’s pal Franklin was pre-emptively brought up, and he certainly qualifies.
If you don’t believe me that Putin has(d) a sizable group of supporters from those ranks, then I suggest not purposefully ignoring facts, or using “google” and attempting to fight through the persecution of their algorithm.
Interestingly enough, I’ll be at a Pentecostal church today. A very good friend of mine is a pastor there. It’s a supply donation drive for an American relief organization who will be going to Ukraine. Most of the worshipers there are Ukrainian or Romanian. They, or their parents, were persecuted by men like Putin. The Moscow Patriarchate of the Orthodox Church was tolerated, as they’ve always been an organ of the state - but not these guys. They had to hide, unless they wanted the dissident experience. But man, they really dig the gay propaganda laws/the west is wicked pitch that Putin sells. Until 2014 Putin was very well liked there, and even until very recently you could get a “yes, he invaded... BUT...”
I don’t see what Biden has to do with anything I said, never mentioned him on the topic at hand and I don’t like the guy either - and I don’t conflate that with Putin support nor did I say that I do. If you need to randomly make up an off-topic straw man to use the phrase Maoist Paradise (?) then go for it, hope that helped.
For our home remodel, the carpenter and crew were expat Russians. Same with our tile crew and the cabinet guys and the plumber. They all were ardent Russian Orthodox believers and their social and work lives revolve around the Church. Learning a craft left them fully employed and making great money. As an aside, we should totally rebuild our public education and allow an opt out for regular high school and have basically an apprentice program for the crafts from electricians, welders, machine work, painting etc. Anyway, these Russians absolutely hate Putin and can't understand why the US is considering socialism/communism. So, if I don't personally know any pro-Putin christians, in my view that makes it rare. That is also Race's point.
On the other hand, on this board we didn't have one leftard that came out against BLM/antifa. Our largely republican neighborhood had dozens of BLM and We Believe signs. We have several posters that were/are big supporters of Trademark, the Gentle Giant and the heroic George Floyd and either directly or tacitly supported the summer of love which devestated major US cities and resulted in hundreds of dead blacks as a result of the delusion of defunding the police. They voted for a dementia patient who is bought and paid for by the chicoms and for some reason believe that he is the person to be CIC and stand up to Putin.
Finally, Buchanan is basically a pariah in the conservative movement because he is a passionate anti-semite.
I’m into my own home remodeling nowadays, I find it relaxing and I’m better at it than the current generation of supposed craftsmen. The contractors I had to supervise over at my parents remodel brought carpenters who had trouble working a chop saw, let alone discussing anything above what’s the best strain of weed to smoke while you’re rebuilding a deck and annoying the owners son with your inability to not throw lit joints on the highly flammable cover on the pool.
If you’re in West Linn I’d be careful with some of your contractor choices. A neighbor down the street had some working on his house and they came back and burgled them. This was about two or three years ago, I remember they found some guns and body armor on the one of the guys they caught and said he was a dangerous felon.
I’m also surprised that you were able to find that many Orthodox emigre contractors, since while the vast majority of immigrants from the former USSR are Orthodox, with a sizable number of secular Jews, in the Portland area almost all of them are Pentecostal or Baptist refugees. I’d say ~75% if not higher, and probably 95% of the contractors due to their educational background difference. It’s why there’s so few Orthodox churches compared to the evangelical ones, worship style taken into consideration.
I’m not saying I doubt the veracity or your story, that community is very tight lipped and as refugees they’re used to giving Americans the answers they think they want to hear. Maybe all the contractors recommended each other. It’s just that finding so many workers who are both Pravoslavniyi veruscheye and willing to tell a stranger they hate Putin (against Moscow Patriarchate dogma) in the Portland area is statistically improbable. -
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It would be a real scandal if a prominent member of the Christian community came out supporting Putin.
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Peppermint Patty is a Commie stooge? Next we'll learn that Lucy is KGB.UW_Doog_Bot said:It would be a real scandal if a prominent member of the Christian community came out supporting Putin.
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