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U.S., allies gear up to hammer Russia’s economy after Putin launches attack on Ukraine

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  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,918 Standard Supporter
    Is Mark Emmett in charge of dropping said hammer?
  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,519 Standard Supporter
    He doesn’t give a FUCK.

    China, The Netherlands, and fucking Germany will continue to buy Russian oil….

    At the NEW rate.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,573
    Nobody fights broke better than the Russians. Sanctions probably won’t do shit. Energy independence in Western Europe from Russia on the other hand, would break them.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 116,148 Founders Club

    Nobody fights broke better than the Russians. Sanctions probably won’t do shit. Energy independence in Western Europe from Russia on the other hand, would break them.

    Western Europe needs Russian energy

    America was energy independent


    81 million people didn't like it
  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,855 Swaye's Wigwam
    Will the new sanctions stop us buying 250-300 million bbls of oil and 700 tons of wheat each year?

    at cut rate prices I assume
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,743 Founders Club
    The US and Europe doesn't have the stomach for any of this. This is appeasement that Chamberlain would be proud of. "Sanctions." LOFL. Nord 2 was a good start and credit to Ze Germans for even having the balls for that - side note, hilarious watching the Biden Admin lapdog along after the fact trying to attach their name to this even though they had nada to do with it.

    So, beyond Nord 2, what do we have? Same targeted sanctions we used to "strangle" the elites after Crimea. Um, they didn't work from 2014 to 2021 when Biden got rid of them. You read that correctly. When Biden got rid of them. He is reinstituting shit he got rid of that didn't work for the 7 previous years anyway. Good plan. Statecraft like if Sun Tzu's retarded brother fucked a turnip.

    There is one thing here that *might* work without boots on the ground. Complete blackout of their economy Iran style. Cut off ALL energy sales and all exports from Russia for everything, and take them completely off SWIFT. They would be a stone age economy in a year and everyone would be starving in Moscow. Even this is perilous though because it could push a weird ugly baby Russia China alliance where China buys energy direct from Russia at reduced prices strengthening both. But it's probably the best we've got short of actual war with the bear. And guess what, nobody is willing to do any of it. Bought and paid for stays bought and paid for on both sides of the Atlantic. NATO will get to scramble some jets and Macron gets to talk tough so that's nice.

    So, toss out "strong condemnations" that Putin will wipe his ass with while laughing and realize that Ukranian wife you were about to buy is now Russian. Good game Biden. Good effort.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 116,148 Founders Club
    Russia really has nukes and WMDs

    This ends when they get bogged down like all great powers these days

    Strength brings peace and weakness invites war

    That ship sailed
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,881 Standard Supporter
    Swaye said:

    The US and Europe doesn't have the stomach for any of this. This is appeasement that Chamberlain would be proud of. "Sanctions." LOFL. Nord 2 was a good start and credit to Ze Germans for even having the balls for that - side note, hilarious watching the Biden Admin lapdog along after the fact trying to attach their name to this even though they had nada to do with it.

    So, beyond Nord 2, what do we have? Same targeted sanctions we used to "strangle" the elites after Crimea. Um, they didn't work from 2014 to 2021 when Biden got rid of them. You read that correctly. When Biden got rid of them. He is reinstituting shit he got rid of that didn't work for the 7 previous years anyway. Good plan. Statecraft like if Sun Tzu's retarded brother fucked a turnip.

    There is one thing here that *might* work without boots on the ground. Complete blackout of their economy Iran style. Cut off ALL energy sales and all exports from Russia for everything, and take them completely off SWIFT. They would be a stone age economy in a year and everyone would be starving in Moscow. Even this is perilous though because it could push a weird ugly baby Russia China alliance where China buys energy direct from Russia at reduced prices strengthening both. But it's probably the best we've got short of actual war with the bear. And guess what, nobody is willing to do any of it. Bought and paid for stays bought and paid for on both sides of the Atlantic. NATO will get to scramble some jets and Macron gets to talk tough so that's nice.

    So, toss out "strong condemnations" that Putin will wipe his ass with while laughing and realize that Ukranian wife you were about to buy is now Russian. Good game Biden. Good effort.

    The banksters and corporate globalists don't want that either.

  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,513 Founders Club
    Swaye said:

    The US and Europe doesn't have the stomach for any of this. This is appeasement that Chamberlain would be proud of. "Sanctions." LOFL. Nord 2 was a good start and credit to Ze Germans for even having the balls for that - side note, hilarious watching the Biden Admin lapdog along after the fact trying to attach their name to this even though they had nada to do with it.

    So, beyond Nord 2, what do we have? Same targeted sanctions we used to "strangle" the elites after Crimea. Um, they didn't work from 2014 to 2021 when Biden got rid of them. You read that correctly. When Biden got rid of them. He is reinstituting shit he got rid of that didn't work for the 7 previous years anyway. Good plan. Statecraft like if Sun Tzu's retarded brother fucked a turnip.

    There is one thing here that *might* work without boots on the ground. Complete blackout of their economy Iran style. Cut off ALL energy sales and all exports from Russia for everything, and take them completely off SWIFT. They would be a stone age economy in a year and everyone would be starving in Moscow. Even this is perilous though because it could push a weird ugly baby Russia China alliance where China buys energy direct from Russia at reduced prices strengthening both. But it's probably the best we've got short of actual war with the bear. And guess what, nobody is willing to do any of it. Bought and paid for stays bought and paid for on both sides of the Atlantic. NATO will get to scramble some jets and Macron gets to talk tough so that's nice.

    So, toss out "strong condemnations" that Putin will wipe his ass with while laughing and realize that Ukranian wife you were about to buy is now Russian. Good game Biden. Good effort.

    SWIFT would work if you also cutoff all the central Asian Stan’s and Belarus, etc. But to your point they can get things in and out through China still, which we all know is never going to get cutoff. The big borders they share are in Manchuria, that’s a long way to go to get stuff to western Russia, doable but expensive and slow.

    But there is also a small border connection further west up in Uyghur country, seems like this is related to the whole genocide thing.