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  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    46XiJCAB said:

    hardhat said:



    The only mentally ill people are those that are using these kids are proxies for their silly woke culture war
    “Not a right winger”
    24 States banned psychological therapy that works because the alphabet mafia wants transitions only. You and they both suck ass Kobe. Cry more about TX.
    Simping for conversion therapy to own the libs.
    “Conversion therapy”. The dope knows the script supplied by the alphabet mafia. Too bad they don’t want to actually help these confused kids. Jazz is doing great.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,737 Founders Club
    Key to a blue sweep this November IMO
  • TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    This isn't the first time @TheKobeStopper has selective outrage and distorted something that is a serious topic with many nuances and not a real black/white issue that we can all see. Abigail Shrier's horrible mean book highlights the biggest issue, some of these kids may be getting peer pressure or their hyperpolicitized and ultrawoke parents are turning to therapy instead of figuring out what's wrong with them. If anything, these super mean laws are to protect a child from making a life altering decision. A lot of people in the transgender community wish they had counseling BEFORE going through with something they might want to walk back. I'm not surprised that you're being so aggressive about this, but it just shows your lack of knowledge and nuance, as with most issues.

    When you characterize as a “horrible mean book” to mock the criticism of it, is this the criticism you’re referring to?

    The book title alone is inflammatory and misleading, and clearly intended to alarm concerned parents, the target demographic for Shrier’s book. Shrier uses emotional language throughout to appeal to the reader. Her book presents a mix of anecdotal reports, opinion pieces, and minimal cited research. The studies she cites are either misinterpreted or cherry-picked to only include those experts she deems reputable, all of whom have a problematic track record in transgender health and research. Her “Select Bibliography”, an annotated version of which is included as an appendix to this post, lists resources that are equally problematic.

    Just to be clear, you view questioning a lack of sourcing, anecdotal evidence, opinions in an academic book, as crying that it’s “mean”?
    Your italicized review says it all, really. When anyone questions the orthodoxy, dismiss them and declare the work trash. Double extra bonus points for the word problematic. That's usually a sign to not take someone seriously. Was this written by an 8th grader?

    To be clear, no amount of sourcing would satisfy you, only capitulation. You have the same immature complaints about Andy Ngo, because once again, he presents reality to your little group.

    Great thread, and thanks.

    Explain how we tell the difference between me dismissing something because I disagree with it and you accepting something because you agree with it?



    “not a right winger”
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,737 Founders Club
    A fan of Bernie Sanders shot up a GOP softball game

    What should we do about it?
  • LoneStarDawgLoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,550 Founders Club

    A fan of Bernie Sanders shot up a GOP softball game

    What should we do about it?



    Robert has a solution for everything
  • TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    A fan of Bernie Sanders shot up a GOP softball game

    What should we do about it?

    Whataboutism is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy.
  • hardhathardhat Member Posts: 8,344

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    This isn't the first time @TheKobeStopper has selective outrage and distorted something that is a serious topic with many nuances and not a real black/white issue that we can all see. Abigail Shrier's horrible mean book highlights the biggest issue, some of these kids may be getting peer pressure or their hyperpolicitized and ultrawoke parents are turning to therapy instead of figuring out what's wrong with them. If anything, these super mean laws are to protect a child from making a life altering decision. A lot of people in the transgender community wish they had counseling BEFORE going through with something they might want to walk back. I'm not surprised that you're being so aggressive about this, but it just shows your lack of knowledge and nuance, as with most issues.

    When you characterize as a “horrible mean book” to mock the criticism of it, is this the criticism you’re referring to?

    The book title alone is inflammatory and misleading, and clearly intended to alarm concerned parents, the target demographic for Shrier’s book. Shrier uses emotional language throughout to appeal to the reader. Her book presents a mix of anecdotal reports, opinion pieces, and minimal cited research. The studies she cites are either misinterpreted or cherry-picked to only include those experts she deems reputable, all of whom have a problematic track record in transgender health and research. Her “Select Bibliography”, an annotated version of which is included as an appendix to this post, lists resources that are equally problematic.

    Just to be clear, you view questioning a lack of sourcing, anecdotal evidence, opinions in an academic book, as crying that it’s “mean”?
    Your italicized review says it all, really. When anyone questions the orthodoxy, dismiss them and declare the work trash. Double extra bonus points for the word problematic. That's usually a sign to not take someone seriously. Was this written by an 8th grader?

    To be clear, no amount of sourcing would satisfy you, only capitulation. You have the same immature complaints about Andy Ngo, because once again, he presents reality to your little group.

    Great thread, and thanks.

    Explain how we tell the difference between me dismissing something because I disagree with it and you accepting something because you agree with it?



    “not a right winger”
    I think you are ashamed to have posted that. In this tweet, you appear to be equating one person allegedly being a fan of someone you disagree with to mean, what exactly?
    Apparently at some point in time you were also a fan of UW sports, which should tell us what exactly about UW sports, or everyone else that is?

    And I think Race answered that for you below.

    I'll be charitable and point out that Abigail Shrier isn't some quack and is certainly qualified to write about the topic of your latest tantrum.
    People also dismiss Jay Bhattacharya, Marty Markary, Tracy Hoeg even though they are doctors and qualified to speak but because they disagree with them. And the more we know about little lovable Antifa, the more we appreciate someone like Andy Ngo, the little gay asian dude (someone you should probably check your privilege about).
  • hardhathardhat Member Posts: 8,344

    A fan of Bernie Sanders shot up a GOP softball game

    What should we do about it?

    Whataboutism is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy.
    Then you should probably stop doing it.
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    This isn't the first time @TheKobeStopper has selective outrage and distorted something that is a serious topic with many nuances and not a real black/white issue that we can all see. Abigail Shrier's horrible mean book highlights the biggest issue, some of these kids may be getting peer pressure or their hyperpolicitized and ultrawoke parents are turning to therapy instead of figuring out what's wrong with them. If anything, these super mean laws are to protect a child from making a life altering decision. A lot of people in the transgender community wish they had counseling BEFORE going through with something they might want to walk back. I'm not surprised that you're being so aggressive about this, but it just shows your lack of knowledge and nuance, as with most issues.

    When you characterize as a “horrible mean book” to mock the criticism of it, is this the criticism you’re referring to?

    The book title alone is inflammatory and misleading, and clearly intended to alarm concerned parents, the target demographic for Shrier’s book. Shrier uses emotional language throughout to appeal to the reader. Her book presents a mix of anecdotal reports, opinion pieces, and minimal cited research. The studies she cites are either misinterpreted or cherry-picked to only include those experts she deems reputable, all of whom have a problematic track record in transgender health and research. Her “Select Bibliography”, an annotated version of which is included as an appendix to this post, lists resources that are equally problematic.

    Just to be clear, you view questioning a lack of sourcing, anecdotal evidence, opinions in an academic book, as crying that it’s “mean”?
    Your italicized review says it all, really. When anyone questions the orthodoxy, dismiss them and declare the work trash. Double extra bonus points for the word problematic. That's usually a sign to not take someone seriously. Was this written by an 8th grader?

    To be clear, no amount of sourcing would satisfy you, only capitulation. You have the same immature complaints about Andy Ngo, because once again, he presents reality to your little group.

    Great thread, and thanks.

    Explain how we tell the difference between me dismissing something because I disagree with it and you accepting something because you agree with it?



    “not a right winger”
    The guy that shot up the Republican congressional softball team was a huge Bernie fan.

    Do you have a point to make Wikikobe?
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,113

    What the fuck is wrong with you if you think having a child take life altering hormones and/or surgery is ok?

    In most places you can’t get a tattoo under 18 for fuck sakes. Adults need to protect children. Not exploited them for the trendy woke cause de jour.

    When you say adults, you mean the state? You want the state to step in and force medical decisions against the will of the kids parents, their doctors and psychologist? Is that right, classical liberal?

    Puberty blockers are not permanent. Hormone treatment doesn’t start until 16 at the earliest and that’s after years of treatment and only when the parents, doctors and psychologist all agree it’s what’s best.

    Unless you are willing to say children can not have any treatment where there are possible side effects that could be permanent, you’re argument is garbage. So no kid could ever be put under for surgery for you to make any logical sense.

    “Classical liberal”

    Kobe, why not just wait until they're 18 and let them make this decision? You're a god damn freak and a ghoul pushing for this shit to done to kids. You'll still have your trannie to fuck Kobe, you'll just have to wait until they're 18.
  • TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    This isn't the first time @TheKobeStopper has selective outrage and distorted something that is a serious topic with many nuances and not a real black/white issue that we can all see. Abigail Shrier's horrible mean book highlights the biggest issue, some of these kids may be getting peer pressure or their hyperpolicitized and ultrawoke parents are turning to therapy instead of figuring out what's wrong with them. If anything, these super mean laws are to protect a child from making a life altering decision. A lot of people in the transgender community wish they had counseling BEFORE going through with something they might want to walk back. I'm not surprised that you're being so aggressive about this, but it just shows your lack of knowledge and nuance, as with most issues.

    When you characterize as a “horrible mean book” to mock the criticism of it, is this the criticism you’re referring to?

    The book title alone is inflammatory and misleading, and clearly intended to alarm concerned parents, the target demographic for Shrier’s book. Shrier uses emotional language throughout to appeal to the reader. Her book presents a mix of anecdotal reports, opinion pieces, and minimal cited research. The studies she cites are either misinterpreted or cherry-picked to only include those experts she deems reputable, all of whom have a problematic track record in transgender health and research. Her “Select Bibliography”, an annotated version of which is included as an appendix to this post, lists resources that are equally problematic.

    Just to be clear, you view questioning a lack of sourcing, anecdotal evidence, opinions in an academic book, as crying that it’s “mean”?
    Your italicized review says it all, really. When anyone questions the orthodoxy, dismiss them and declare the work trash. Double extra bonus points for the word problematic. That's usually a sign to not take someone seriously. Was this written by an 8th grader?

    To be clear, no amount of sourcing would satisfy you, only capitulation. You have the same immature complaints about Andy Ngo, because once again, he presents reality to your little group.

    Great thread, and thanks.

    Explain how we tell the difference between me dismissing something because I disagree with it and you accepting something because you agree with it?

    Bump.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,113
    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    hardhat said:



    The only mentally ill people are those that are using these kids are proxies for their silly woke culture war
    “Not a right winger”
    24 States banned psychological therapy that works because the alphabet mafia wants transitions only. You and they both suck ass Kobe. Cry more about TX.
    Simping for conversion therapy to own the libs.
    “Conversion therapy”. The dope knows the script supplied by the alphabet mafia. Too bad they don’t want to actually help these confused kids. Jazz is doing great.
    Go chemical castration and irreversible mutilation of kids!!! Yeah!!!!! What a fucking freak.
  • TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    SFGbob said:

    What the fuck is wrong with you if you think having a child take life altering hormones and/or surgery is ok?

    In most places you can’t get a tattoo under 18 for fuck sakes. Adults need to protect children. Not exploited them for the trendy woke cause de jour.

    When you say adults, you mean the state? You want the state to step in and force medical decisions against the will of the kids parents, their doctors and psychologist? Is that right, classical liberal?

    Puberty blockers are not permanent. Hormone treatment doesn’t start until 16 at the earliest and that’s after years of treatment and only when the parents, doctors and psychologist all agree it’s what’s best.

    Unless you are willing to say children can not have any treatment where there are possible side effects that could be permanent, you’re argument is garbage. So no kid could ever be put under for surgery for you to make any logical sense.

    “Classical liberal”

    Kobe, why not just wait until they're 18 and let them make this decision? You're a god damn freak and a ghoul pushing for this shit to done to kids. You'll still have your trannie to fuck Kobe, you'll just have to wait until they're 18.
    Make what decision? Reassignment surgery isn’t done until they’re 18, unless the individual has full medical consent earlier via emancipation or state law.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,737 Founders Club

    A fan of Bernie Sanders shot up a GOP softball game

    What should we do about it?

    Whataboutism is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy.
    So who is doing whataboutism you or me?

  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,737 Founders Club

    SFGbob said:

    What the fuck is wrong with you if you think having a child take life altering hormones and/or surgery is ok?

    In most places you can’t get a tattoo under 18 for fuck sakes. Adults need to protect children. Not exploited them for the trendy woke cause de jour.

    When you say adults, you mean the state? You want the state to step in and force medical decisions against the will of the kids parents, their doctors and psychologist? Is that right, classical liberal?

    Puberty blockers are not permanent. Hormone treatment doesn’t start until 16 at the earliest and that’s after years of treatment and only when the parents, doctors and psychologist all agree it’s what’s best.

    Unless you are willing to say children can not have any treatment where there are possible side effects that could be permanent, you’re argument is garbage. So no kid could ever be put under for surgery for you to make any logical sense.

    “Classical liberal”

    Kobe, why not just wait until they're 18 and let them make this decision? You're a god damn freak and a ghoul pushing for this shit to done to kids. You'll still have your trannie to fuck Kobe, you'll just have to wait until they're 18.
    Make what decision? Reassignment surgery isn’t done until they’re 18, unless the individual has full medical consent earlier via emancipation or state law.
    You realize nobody believes a leftist
  • TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    SFGbob said:

    What the fuck is wrong with you if you think having a child take life altering hormones and/or surgery is ok?

    In most places you can’t get a tattoo under 18 for fuck sakes. Adults need to protect children. Not exploited them for the trendy woke cause de jour.

    When you say adults, you mean the state? You want the state to step in and force medical decisions against the will of the kids parents, their doctors and psychologist? Is that right, classical liberal?

    Puberty blockers are not permanent. Hormone treatment doesn’t start until 16 at the earliest and that’s after years of treatment and only when the parents, doctors and psychologist all agree it’s what’s best.

    Unless you are willing to say children can not have any treatment where there are possible side effects that could be permanent, you’re argument is garbage. So no kid could ever be put under for surgery for you to make any logical sense.

    “Classical liberal”

    Kobe, why not just wait until they're 18 and let them make this decision? You're a god damn freak and a ghoul pushing for this shit to done to kids. You'll still have your trannie to fuck Kobe, you'll just have to wait until they're 18.
    Make what decision? Reassignment surgery isn’t done until they’re 18, unless the individual has full medical consent earlier via emancipation or state law.
    You realize nobody believes a leftist
    Ignorance is bliss.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,737 Founders Club

    SFGbob said:

    What the fuck is wrong with you if you think having a child take life altering hormones and/or surgery is ok?

    In most places you can’t get a tattoo under 18 for fuck sakes. Adults need to protect children. Not exploited them for the trendy woke cause de jour.

    When you say adults, you mean the state? You want the state to step in and force medical decisions against the will of the kids parents, their doctors and psychologist? Is that right, classical liberal?

    Puberty blockers are not permanent. Hormone treatment doesn’t start until 16 at the earliest and that’s after years of treatment and only when the parents, doctors and psychologist all agree it’s what’s best.

    Unless you are willing to say children can not have any treatment where there are possible side effects that could be permanent, you’re argument is garbage. So no kid could ever be put under for surgery for you to make any logical sense.

    “Classical liberal”

    Kobe, why not just wait until they're 18 and let them make this decision? You're a god damn freak and a ghoul pushing for this shit to done to kids. You'll still have your trannie to fuck Kobe, you'll just have to wait until they're 18.
    Make what decision? Reassignment surgery isn’t done until they’re 18, unless the individual has full medical consent earlier via emancipation or state law.
    You realize nobody believes a leftist
    Ignorance is bliss.
    It takes intelligence to spot a con
  • hardhathardhat Member Posts: 8,344

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    This isn't the first time @TheKobeStopper has selective outrage and distorted something that is a serious topic with many nuances and not a real black/white issue that we can all see. Abigail Shrier's horrible mean book highlights the biggest issue, some of these kids may be getting peer pressure or their hyperpolicitized and ultrawoke parents are turning to therapy instead of figuring out what's wrong with them. If anything, these super mean laws are to protect a child from making a life altering decision. A lot of people in the transgender community wish they had counseling BEFORE going through with something they might want to walk back. I'm not surprised that you're being so aggressive about this, but it just shows your lack of knowledge and nuance, as with most issues.

    When you characterize as a “horrible mean book” to mock the criticism of it, is this the criticism you’re referring to?

    The book title alone is inflammatory and misleading, and clearly intended to alarm concerned parents, the target demographic for Shrier’s book. Shrier uses emotional language throughout to appeal to the reader. Her book presents a mix of anecdotal reports, opinion pieces, and minimal cited research. The studies she cites are either misinterpreted or cherry-picked to only include those experts she deems reputable, all of whom have a problematic track record in transgender health and research. Her “Select Bibliography”, an annotated version of which is included as an appendix to this post, lists resources that are equally problematic.

    Just to be clear, you view questioning a lack of sourcing, anecdotal evidence, opinions in an academic book, as crying that it’s “mean”?
    Your italicized review says it all, really. When anyone questions the orthodoxy, dismiss them and declare the work trash. Double extra bonus points for the word problematic. That's usually a sign to not take someone seriously. Was this written by an 8th grader?

    To be clear, no amount of sourcing would satisfy you, only capitulation. You have the same immature complaints about Andy Ngo, because once again, he presents reality to your little group.

    Great thread, and thanks.

    Explain how we tell the difference between me dismissing something because I disagree with it and you accepting something because you agree with it?

    Bump.
    Bump bump m~fer. I replied.
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