This isn't the first time @TheKobeStopper has selective outrage and distorted something that is a serious topic with many nuances and not a real black/white issue that we can all see. Abigail Shrier's horrible mean book highlights the biggest issue, some of these kids may be getting peer pressure or their hyperpolicitized and ultrawoke parents are turning to therapy instead of figuring out what's wrong with them. If anything, these super mean laws are to protect a child from making a life altering decision. A lot of people in the transgender community wish they had counseling BEFORE going through with something they might want to walk back. I'm not surprised that you're being so aggressive about this, but it just shows your lack of knowledge and nuance, as with most issues.
I guess the dim bulb TKS can take it up with the American Psychiatric Association if he has a problem with it.
“The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5)1 provides for one overarching diagnosis of gender dysphoria with separate specific criteria for children and for adolescents and adults.”
It is child abuse to allow a 16 year to change their sex. We don't let 16 year old's buy cigarettes because we correctly assert they are not mature enough to understand the life altering ramifications of their actions, but we should allow them to cut their dicks off?
18 you can be as mentally ill as you like.
Reassignment surgery isn’t being done on kids under 18 except in cases of emancipation and in states that give medical consent at 16 or 17.
This statement is very clear that it’s targeting more than surgery. They are making it illegal to give trans kids any treatment recommended by their doctors and therapist.
It is seriously astounding that there liberals in this country that think that giving kids drugs to alter their biological/chromosomal chemistry is normal behavior. Its sick and twisted. Torturing at the very least.
kobe and the like are the lowest of the low. The absolute dregs of society. To think that a 13 year old knows to make that life long alteration is so sick it defies description.
Fuck you and your sadistic bullshit kobe. Good God you people need to be put away and kept from children.
The left loves science and statistics. Until the science and statistics tell them that young trans people are much more likely to blow their brain matter all over the wall/ceiling.
Did anyone recall Wikikobe crying a river when now 24 States have banned psychological therapy for gender dysphoria? It's been labeled "conversion therapy". Imagine parents in one of those states seeking help for their gender confused child? Kobe? Cali was one of the first to ban it.
So let's get all worked up over Texas saying "fuck no" this is child abuse. These folks have 24 GD States that will welcome them with open arms. Door. Ass. Out. There have been studies showing that psychological therapy can work, imagine that, but the alphabet mafia has done a great job of tarring any such successes. It's transition or nothing.
It is child abuse to allow a 16 year to change their sex. We don't let 16 year old's buy cigarettes because we correctly assert they are not mature enough to understand the life altering ramifications of their actions, but we should allow them to cut their dicks off?
18 you can be as mentally ill as you like.
Reassignment surgery isn’t being done on kids under 18 except in cases of emancipation and in states that give medical consent at 16 or 17.
This statement is very clear that it’s targeting more than surgery. They are making it illegal to give trans kids any treatment recommended by their doctors and therapist.
You obviously didn’t read the letter. Read before commenting next time.
The left loves science and statistics. Until the science and statistics tell them that young trans people are much more likely to blow their brain matter all over the wall/ceiling.
But they only do that because right wing bigots don’t accept them for who they are.
Did anyone recall Wikikobe crying a river when now 24 States have banned psychological therapy for gender dysphoria? It's been labeled "conversion therapy". Imagine parents in one of those states seeking help for their gender confused child? Kobe? Cali was one of the first to ban it.
So let's get all worked up over Texas saying "fuck no" this is child abuse. These folks have 24 GD States that will welcome them with open arms. Door. Ass. Out. There have been studies showing that psychological therapy can work, imagine that, but the alphabet mafia has done a great job of tarring any such successes. It's transition or nothing.
Bake the cake bigot. Everyone must celebrate them.
This isn't the first time @TheKobeStopper has selective outrage and distorted something that is a serious topic with many nuances and not a real black/white issue that we can all see. Abigail Shrier's horrible mean book highlights the biggest issue, some of these kids may be getting peer pressure or their hyperpolicitized and ultrawoke parents are turning to therapy instead of figuring out what's wrong with them. If anything, these super mean laws are to protect a child from making a life altering decision. A lot of people in the transgender community wish they had counseling BEFORE going through with something they might want to walk back. I'm not surprised that you're being so aggressive about this, but it just shows your lack of knowledge and nuance, as with most issues.
When you characterize as a “horrible mean book” to mock the criticism of it, is this the criticism you’re referring to?
The book title alone is inflammatory and misleading, and clearly intended to alarm concerned parents, the target demographic for Shrier’s book. Shrier uses emotional language throughout to appeal to the reader. Her book presents a mix of anecdotal reports, opinion pieces, and minimal cited research. The studies she cites are either misinterpreted or cherry-picked to only include those experts she deems reputable, all of whom have a problematic track record in transgender health and research. Her “Select Bibliography”, an annotated version of which is included as an appendix to this post, lists resources that are equally problematic.
Just to be clear, you view questioning a lack of sourcing, anecdotal evidence, opinions in an academic book, as crying that it’s “mean”?
This isn't the first time @TheKobeStopper has selective outrage and distorted something that is a serious topic with many nuances and not a real black/white issue that we can all see. Abigail Shrier's horrible mean book highlights the biggest issue, some of these kids may be getting peer pressure or their hyperpolicitized and ultrawoke parents are turning to therapy instead of figuring out what's wrong with them. If anything, these super mean laws are to protect a child from making a life altering decision. A lot of people in the transgender community wish they had counseling BEFORE going through with something they might want to walk back. I'm not surprised that you're being so aggressive about this, but it just shows your lack of knowledge and nuance, as with most issues.
When you characterize as a “horrible mean book” to mock the criticism of it, is this the criticism you’re referring to?
The book title alone is inflammatory and misleading, and clearly intended to alarm concerned parents, the target demographic for Shrier’s book. Shrier uses emotional language throughout to appeal to the reader. Her book presents a mix of anecdotal reports, opinion pieces, and minimal cited research. The studies she cites are either misinterpreted or cherry-picked to only include those experts she deems reputable, all of whom have a problematic track record in transgender health and research. Her “Select Bibliography”, an annotated version of which is included as an appendix to this post, lists resources that are equally problematic.
Just to be clear, you view questioning a lack of sourcing, anecdotal evidence, opinions in an academic book, as crying that it’s “mean”?
Your italicized review says it all, really. When anyone questions the orthodoxy, dismiss them and declare the work trash. Double extra bonus points for the word problematic. That's usually a sign to not take someone seriously. Was this written by an 8th grader?
To be clear, no amount of sourcing would satisfy you, only capitulation. You have the same immature complaints about Andy Ngo, because once again, he presents reality to your little group.
The only mentally ill people are those that are using these kids are proxies for their silly woke culture war
“Not a right winger”
24 States banned psychological therapy that works because the alphabet mafia wants transitions only. You and they both suck ass Kobe. Cry more about TX.
What the fuck is wrong with you if you think having a child take life altering hormones and/or surgery is ok?
In most places you can’t get a tattoo under 18 for fuck sakes. Adults need to protect children. Not exploited them for the trendy woke cause de jour.
When you say adults, you mean the state? You want the state to step in and force medical decisions against the will of the kids parents, their doctors and psychologist? Is that right, classical liberal?
Puberty blockers are not permanent. Hormone treatment doesn’t start until 16 at the earliest and that’s after years of treatment and only when the parents, doctors and psychologist all agree it’s what’s best.
Unless you are willing to say children can not have any treatment where there are possible side effects that could be permanent, you’re argument is garbage. So no kid could ever be put under for surgery for you to make any logical sense.
The only mentally ill people are those that are using these kids are proxies for their silly woke culture war
“Not a right winger”
24 States banned psychological therapy that works because the alphabet mafia wants transitions only. You and they both suck ass Kobe. Cry more about TX.
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“The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5)1 provides for one overarching diagnosis of gender dysphoria with separate specific criteria for children and for adolescents and adults.”
https://www.theravive.com/therapedia/gender-dysphoria-dsm--5-302.85-(f64.9)
The only mentally ill people are those that are using these kids are proxies for their silly woke culture war
kobe and the like are the lowest of the low. The absolute dregs of society. To think that a 13 year old knows to make that life long alteration is so sick it defies description.
Fuck you and your sadistic bullshit kobe. Good God you people need to be put away and kept from children.
So let's get all worked up over Texas saying "fuck no" this is child abuse. These folks have 24 GD States that will welcome them with open arms. Door. Ass. Out. There have been studies showing that psychological therapy can work, imagine that, but the alphabet mafia has done a great job of tarring any such successes. It's transition or nothing.
Thanks Kobe!
The book title alone is inflammatory and misleading, and clearly intended to alarm concerned parents, the target demographic for Shrier’s book. Shrier uses emotional language throughout to appeal to the reader. Her book presents a mix of anecdotal reports, opinion pieces, and minimal cited research. The studies she cites are either misinterpreted or cherry-picked to only include those experts she deems reputable, all of whom have a problematic track record in transgender health and research. Her “Select Bibliography”, an annotated version of which is included as an appendix to this post, lists resources that are equally problematic.
Just to be clear, you view questioning a lack of sourcing, anecdotal evidence, opinions in an academic book, as crying that it’s “mean”?
To be clear, no amount of sourcing would satisfy you, only capitulation. You have the same immature complaints about Andy Ngo, because once again, he presents reality to your little group.
Great thread, and thanks.
Puberty blockers are not permanent. Hormone treatment doesn’t start until 16 at the earliest and that’s after years of treatment and only when the parents, doctors and psychologist all agree it’s what’s best.
Unless you are willing to say children can not have any treatment where there are possible side effects that could be permanent, you’re argument is garbage. So no kid could ever be put under for surgery for you to make any logical sense.
“Classical liberal”