I agreed with a lot of his comments regarding the branding and reputation (from a positive standpoint) about Washington as well as understanding what works for us and recruiting to that
There also was a little too much what I’d term as settling a bit in terms of what we are (should always be striving to grow your brand and reach) and the outward recognition of under the radar recruiting just screams of settling and embracing the grit/humility/underdog mindset that Jen champions
I’ve been fairly clear that there are always under the radar players out there that can be developed and be successful … but those players IMO are much more generally what should be viewed as backup plans instead of primary targets because we’re conceding other targets because for instance they are in SC’s area
Yeah, I didn't read that much into his comments. He basically said the focus is keeping Washington kids home and dominating California. He noted that the 5-star kids that USC wants will stay home. So what. How many five-star players does UW ever get from anywhere, let alone Southern California. Yet even still, there is so much talent there that UW should be able to stock its program with great players (a lot of them need a year or two in the program to develop -- that's going to be where DeBoner earns his keep).
He didn't really say anything that was surprising or worrisome, imho. It was basically a story about how he's gotten to where he is and why he's at Washington. The dude is confident. And the article noted the staff booted Glenn down to director of player development while making the Oregon guy (Henkle?) director of recruiting and a former Michigan guy as director of scouting. Bruce Harrell's daughter is director of on-campus recruiting.
So it soundslike the grown ups are in charge. (Except in the AD's chair, and until that changes, I'm not going to get my hopes up even though I'm doogin more than I have since Peterman first came on board.)
I agreed with a lot of his comments regarding the branding and reputation (from a positive standpoint) about Washington as well as understanding what works for us and recruiting to that
There also was a little too much what I’d term as settling a bit in terms of what we are (should always be striving to grow your brand and reach) and the outward recognition of under the radar recruiting just screams of settling and embracing the grit/humility/underdog mindset that Jen champions
I’ve been fairly clear that there are always under the radar players out there that can be developed and be successful … but those players IMO are much more generally what should be viewed as backup plans instead of primary targets because we’re conceding other targets because for instance they are in SC’s area
We went to the playoff in 2016 and the Rose Bowl 3 years ago. We aren't Oregon State. Expectations should be way higher if that's what he's saying. Ugh.
All you have to do is look at our “blue chips” currently on the roster. Almost every single one sucks.
You can say Alabama and the other teams that have the top classes win the natties, which is fine. It hasn’t worked out for us. I’m not against highly rated guys, but they also haven’t been what they have been cracked up to be.
Washington, he said, “has a strong brand, a respected brand. They have a lot of players in the NFL. People don’t really know about the academic value outside of the West Coast. It’s a lot like Michigan — it’s like a West Coast Michigan. It’s a great brand, great city, great uniforms, great facility and stadium. It’s clean, as far as how people perceive the program. Great fan support. These fans are the best fans I’ve ever seen. They are the most ruthless Twitter fans I’ve ever seen.”
Imagine engaging this passion as opposed to disparaging it.
All you have to do is look at our “blue chips” currently on the roster. Almost every single one sucks.
You can say Alabama and the other teams that have the top classes win the natties, which is fine. It hasn’t worked out for us. I’m not against highly rated guys, but they also haven’t been what they have been cracked up to be.
Maybe some time with a real coaching staff we might see improvement?... Chicken or egg, players or coaching. Lake and his staff were poser ass clowns. I think we'll see improvement.
All you have to do is look at our “blue chips” currently on the roster. Almost every single one sucks.
You can say Alabama and the other teams that have the top classes win the natties, which is fine. It hasn’t worked out for us. I’m not against highly rated guys, but they also haven’t been what they have been cracked up to be.
Maybe some time with a real coaching staff we might see improvement?... Chicken or egg, players or coaching. Lake and his staff were poser ass clowns. I think we'll see improvement.
It’s probably a bit of both. Nobody that has left has done well. We recruited and evaluated badly.
I agreed with a lot of his comments regarding the branding and reputation (from a positive standpoint) about Washington as well as understanding what works for us and recruiting to that
There also was a little too much what I’d term as settling a bit in terms of what we are (should always be striving to grow your brand and reach) and the outward recognition of under the radar recruiting just screams of settling and embracing the grit/humility/underdog mindset that Jen champions
I’ve been fairly clear that there are always under the radar players out there that can be developed and be successful … but those players IMO are much more generally what should be viewed as backup plans instead of primary targets because we’re conceding other targets because for instance they are in SC’s area
We went to the playoff in 2016 and the Rose Bowl 3 years ago. We aren't Oregon State. Expectations should be way higher if that's what he's saying. Ugh.
We went there because we evaluated and developed at an elite level. We also had a handful of guys that were 4*, bonafied blue chips.
On that great defense, the only 4*’s were Budda, Qualls, and Mathis.
All you have to do is look at our “blue chips” currently on the roster. Almost every single one sucks.
You can say Alabama and the other teams that have the top classes win the natties, which is fine. It hasn’t worked out for us. I’m not against highly rated guys, but they also haven’t been what they have been cracked up to be.
I have to agree with you; a lot of Washington football players do suck. But, some of the blue chips don’t suck. Out of the 20 or so that don’t, most came from the top third of the highest ranked recruits on the roster. I already checked, but let’s look at this empirically.
Who do you think were the best 10-20 players on the 2021 team? How many of those were blue chip recruits?
UW’s blue chip percentage was 43% so if out of your top-20 players there aren’t more than 8 4-stars then that means blue chips are over represented. Which would mean your opinion, which is clearly a coping mechanism for lowered expectations, is not correct.
This says to me that don't necessarily expect the 2023 class to be in the top 25 in average stars. I think it will be in the top 25 overall but they are going to take some guys that are under the radar but are worth taking.
Managing expectations is sensible as long as they don't use it as a crutch for not doing better in WA State and California.
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Or be a scrappy little team that can get hot and get a good win or two per year while going 8-4.
Then there were other things that I just shook my head on
There also was a little too much what I’d term as settling a bit in terms of what we are (should always be striving to grow your brand and reach) and the outward recognition of under the radar recruiting just screams of settling and embracing the grit/humility/underdog mindset that Jen champions
I’ve been fairly clear that there are always under the radar players out there that can be developed and be successful … but those players IMO are much more generally what should be viewed as backup plans instead of primary targets because we’re conceding other targets because for instance they are in SC’s area
He didn't really say anything that was surprising or worrisome, imho. It was basically a story about how he's gotten to where he is and why he's at Washington. The dude is confident. And the article noted the staff booted Glenn down to director of player development while making the Oregon guy (Henkle?) director of recruiting and a former Michigan guy as director of scouting. Bruce Harrell's daughter is director of on-campus recruiting.
So it soundslike the grown ups are in charge. (Except in the AD's chair, and until that changes, I'm not going to get my hopes up even though I'm doogin more than I have since Peterman first came on board.)
You can say Alabama and the other teams that have the top classes win the natties, which is fine. It hasn’t worked out for us. I’m not against highly rated guys, but they also haven’t been what they have been cracked up to be.
Imagine engaging this passion as opposed to disparaging it.
On that great defense, the only 4*’s were Budda, Qualls, and Mathis.
New Bored Motto ?
Who do you think were the best 10-20 players on the 2021 team? How many of those were blue chip recruits?
UW’s blue chip percentage was 43% so if out of your top-20 players there aren’t more than 8 4-stars then that means blue chips are over represented. Which would mean your opinion, which is clearly a coping mechanism for lowered expectations, is not correct.
Managing expectations is sensible as long as they don't use it as a crutch for not doing better in WA State and California.