What Pac 12 player you thought was NFL star that ended up nothing.
Thought for sure he was Barry Sanders 2.0, now he sells cheeseburgers.
Side note i would have drafted Ryan Leaf over loser Payton Manning.
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I was thinking James when I read the thread title. He went to a good Niners team that ran the damn ball and didn’t do shit.longduckdong said:My vote goes to LaMichael James, he was so fucking good at Oregon.
Thought for sure he was Barry Sanders 2.0, now he sells cheeseburgers.
Side note i would have drafted Ryan Leaf over loser Payton Manning. -
Reggie Williams
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Stan emptaman
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Bryce Love
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Cody Pickett. Had all the traits of a real QB.
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Meth does a body good.
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Vontaez Burfict…$5.3mm in fines and lost salary. First round grade, went undrafted and signed for a $1000 bonus. The fourth Hanson brother from Slap Shot…
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As shitty Jon Wilner, love this stuff so I'll do each Pac-12 team.
Shocked people are saying LaMichael James. Always seemed like a pure college guy - really small and seemed like a lot of his success had to do with the hurry up and their system. Kenjon Barner always seemed just as good to me too.
Washington - Reggie Williams - Heard he didn't work hard enough to be an NFL impact guy.
Washington State - Rien Long (pre-combine) - Once he showed up like 100 pounds overweight at the combine it was clearly over.
Oregon - Jake Fisher
Oregon State - DeLawrence Grant
Cal - Jared Goff - thought he'd be better
Stanford - Bryce Love - thought he was too small to be a star and let himself get too beat up in college but surprised I don't think he ever played an NFL game.
UCLA - Dave Ball
USC - Marqise Lee
Arizona - Ka'Deem Carey
Arizona State - Vontaze Burfict
Utah - Star Lotulelei
Colorado - Chris Brown -
I agree with most of this. I think Reggie developed a coke habit. Vontaze was voted to the Pro Bowl in his second year and had a 7-8 year career so not sure I'd lump him in here. N'Keal Harry from ASU would be my vote.WoolleyDoog said:As shitty Jon Wilner, love this stuff so I'll do each Pac-12 team.
Shocked people are saying LaMichael James. Always seemed like a pure college guy - really small and seemed like a lot of his success had to do with the hurry up and their system. Kenjon Barner always seemed just as good to me too.
Washington - Reggie Williams - Heard he didn't work hard enough to be an NFL impact guy.
Washington State - Rien Long (pre-combine) - Once he showed up like 100 pounds overweight at the combine it was clearly over.
Oregon - Jake Fisher
Oregon State - DeLawrence Grant
Cal - Jared Goff - thought he'd be better
Stanford - Bryce Love - thought he was too small to be a star and let himself get too beat up in college but surprised I don't think he ever played an NFL game.
UCLA - Dave Ball
USC - Marqise Lee
Arizona - Ka'Deem Carey
Arizona State - Vontaze Burfict
Utah - Star Lotulelei
Colorado - Chris Brown -
USC
Matt Leinart
Reggie Bush
Several 1st round 6 foot 5 inch wideouts also named Williams
Lendale White
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Yeah, calling Vontaze a bust is a stretch.BleachedAnusDawg said:
I agree with most of this. I think Reggie developed a coke habit. Vontaze was voted to the Pro Bowl in his second year and had a 7-8 year career so not sure I'd lump him in here. N'Keal Harry from ASU would be my vote.WoolleyDoog said:As shitty Jon Wilner, love this stuff so I'll do each Pac-12 team.
Shocked people are saying LaMichael James. Always seemed like a pure college guy - really small and seemed like a lot of his success had to do with the hurry up and their system. Kenjon Barner always seemed just as good to me too.
Washington - Reggie Williams - Heard he didn't work hard enough to be an NFL impact guy.
Washington State - Rien Long (pre-combine) - Once he showed up like 100 pounds overweight at the combine it was clearly over.
Oregon - Jake Fisher
Oregon State - DeLawrence Grant
Cal - Jared Goff - thought he'd be better
Stanford - Bryce Love - thought he was too small to be a star and let himself get too beat up in college but surprised I don't think he ever played an NFL game.
UCLA - Dave Ball
USC - Marqise Lee
Arizona - Ka'Deem Carey
Arizona State - Vontaze Burfict
Utah - Star Lotulelei
Colorado - Chris Brown
Harry is like many WR’s. Tall, jump ball artists are almost always overrated in the NFL. -
Reggie Bush is pretty disappointing. Emtman, John Ross.
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Big ditto on Marqise Lee. I thought he'd be a great pro.WoolleyDoog said:As shitty Jon Wilner, love this stuff so I'll do each Pac-12 team.
Shocked people are saying LaMichael James. Always seemed like a pure college guy - really small and seemed like a lot of his success had to do with the hurry up and their system. Kenjon Barner always seemed just as good to me too.
Washington - Reggie Williams - Heard he didn't work hard enough to be an NFL impact guy.
Washington State - Rien Long (pre-combine) - Once he showed up like 100 pounds overweight at the combine it was clearly over.
Oregon - Jake Fisher
Oregon State - DeLawrence Grant
Cal - Jared Goff - thought he'd be better
Stanford - Bryce Love - thought he was too small to be a star and let himself get too beat up in college but surprised I don't think he ever played an NFL game.
UCLA - Dave Ball
USC - Marqise Lee
Arizona - Ka'Deem Carey
Arizona State - Vontaze Burfict
Utah - Star Lotulelei
Colorado - Chris Brown -
There were several surprising disappointments from Pete's USC run, and in the few years thereafter. Nick Perry, Shawn Cody, Barkeley, Dirty Sanchez, Sedric Ellis, Keith Rivers. There are others. Totally agree that Bush was a disappointment. Leinhart looked like the college system QB, so I wasn't shocked about that one. But I expected Bush to be a great pro. He was not.RaceBannon said:USC
Matt Leinart
Reggie Bush
Several 1st round 6 foot 5 inch wideouts also named Williams
Lendale White
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Heroin was his downfall, cocaine was the gateway hard drug. Showed up at combine out of shape, and still scored in the top 2-8% in everything but the bench. But I’m not going to miss an opportunity for this:Swaye said:Meth does a body good.
Colt was recently paroled from prison, I think he’s wanted again - can’t fix some brains. He’s successful broken out of jail before, and eluded police. Imagine being a fatass cop trying to catch that guy. I never had to take an actual science class at UO, I took stats and CS classes for my meager degree reqs, but from what I understand this is actually the school’s lone remaining tenured chemistry professor. The others were arrested at a meth lab outside of Coburg.
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ISAFNRCWoolleyDoog said:As shitty Jon Wilner, love this stuff so I'll do each Pac-12 team.
Shocked people are saying LaMichael James. Always seemed like a pure college guy - really small and seemed like a lot of his success had to do with the hurry up and their system. Kenjon Barner always seemed just as good to me too.
Washington - Reggie Williams - Heard he didn't work hard enough to be an NFL impact guy.
Washington State - Rien Long (pre-combine) - Once he showed up like 100 pounds overweight at the combine it was clearly over.
Oregon - Jake Fisher
Oregon State - DeLawrence Grant
Cal - Jared Goff - thought he'd be better
Stanford - Bryce Love - thought he was too small to be a star and let himself get too beat up in college but surprised I don't think he ever played an NFL game.
UCLA - Dave Ball
USC - Marqise Lee
Arizona - Ka'Deem Carey
Arizona State - Vontaze Burfict
Utah - Star Lotulelei
Colorado - Chris Brown -
Trey “I want a bigger dick” Adams.
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Marqise Lee for me. He was the best Pac-10/12 WR I’d ever seen. Jesus fucking Christ this is his career game log, unstoppable.
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I felt bad for Bryce Love his Senior year. I think Shaw was giving him like 60 carries a game. He was obviously beat up. Even though he still managed to hobble his way to a win over us.Fishpo31 said:Bryce Love
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He’s escaped jail twice. That’s harder to do than play in the NFL. Colt’s a success in my book.RatherBeBrewing said:
Heroin was his downfall, cocaine was the gateway hard drug. Showed up at combine out of shape, and still scored in the top 2-8% in everything but the bench. But I’m not going to miss an opportunity for this:Swaye said:Meth does a body good.
Colt was recently paroled from prison, I think he’s wanted again - can’t fix some brains. He’s successful broken out of jail before, and eluded police. Imagine being a fatass cop trying to catch that guy. I never had to take an actual science class at UO, I took stats and CS classes for my meager degree reqs, but from what I understand this is actually the school’s lone remaining tenured chemistry professor. The others were arrested at a meth lab outside of Coburg. -
The subject of underwhelming football careers seems to be your wheelhouseWoolleyDoog said:As shitty Jon Wilner, love this stuff so I'll do each Pac-12 team.
Shocked people are saying LaMichael James. Always seemed like a pure college guy - really small and seemed like a lot of his success had to do with the hurry up and their system. Kenjon Barner always seemed just as good to me too.
Washington - Reggie Williams - Heard he didn't work hard enough to be an NFL impact guy.
Washington State - Rien Long (pre-combine) - Once he showed up like 100 pounds overweight at the combine it was clearly over.
Oregon - Jake Fisher
Oregon State - DeLawrence Grant
Cal - Jared Goff - thought he'd be better
Stanford - Bryce Love - thought he was too small to be a star and let himself get too beat up in college but surprised I don't think he ever played an NFL game.
UCLA - Dave Ball
USC - Marqise Lee
Arizona - Ka'Deem Carey
Arizona State - Vontaze Burfict
Utah - Star Lotulelei
Colorado - Chris Brown -
Good list along with Woolley'sKingdome_Urinals said:Reggie Bush is pretty disappointing. Emtman, John Ross.
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I suppose Reggie Rogers needs to be on there too
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Donald Jones seemed like he could have been amazing in the NFL. Tommie Smith had the perfect physique and athleticism for an NFL safety.
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Stalin with the quadruple shit post!
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I don't agree with Reggie Bush. He didn't end up being "nothing" he won a super bowl, rushed for 5500 yards, and caught 3600. He obviously didn't dominate like he did at college but he was still a solid player.
Recency Bias probably Harry. Still think he can be decent but has been pretty irrelevant in New England.
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I mean, it really is. I always used to think, fuck, whatever else you want to say about Ted Bundy, fucking impressive as fuck that he did it twice too. Takes balls and some fucking savy to pull it off. I couldn't do it.RoadDawg55 said:
He’s escaped jail twice. That’s harder to do than play in the NFL. Colt’s a success in my book.RatherBeBrewing said:
Heroin was his downfall, cocaine was the gateway hard drug. Showed up at combine out of shape, and still scored in the top 2-8% in everything but the bench. But I’m not going to miss an opportunity for this:Swaye said:Meth does a body good.
Colt was recently paroled from prison, I think he’s wanted again - can’t fix some brains. He’s successful broken out of jail before, and eluded police. Imagine being a fatass cop trying to catch that guy. I never had to take an actual science class at UO, I took stats and CS classes for my meager degree reqs, but from what I understand this is actually the school’s lone remaining tenured chemistry professor. The others were arrested at a meth lab outside of Coburg. -
If only saw this post they'd get the idea that banging meth mouthed Mila Kunis is wrong or some kind of bad thing. Not so.RatherBeBrewing said: -
Stole this from Quora because I think it's a reasonable take on Bush, who I fucking loved as a player albeit at a program I really don't like. I think the 0 Pro Bowls is worthy of mention. You have a top 3 pick, from a name program with a pretty face who everyone likes ... if his play is even CLOSE to Pro Bowl worthy, his popularity and name get him over the hump.CuntWaffle said:I don't agree with Reggie Bush. He didn't end up being "nothing" he won a super bowl, rushed for 5500 yards, and caught 3600. He obviously didn't dominate like he did at college but he was still a solid player.
Recency Bias probably Harry. Still think he can be decent but has been pretty irrelevant in New England.
He wasn't a bust, but he was a disappointment. Here's his career in a nutshell in terms of benchmarks that teams are looking for. He signed a six year rookie contract, and was traded after five years. For a top three pick, teams expect to draft somebody they'll want to keep.
He was a starter for six seasons (two with New Orleans). That's average-ish. Looking at players drafted 1st, 2nd, or 3rd from 1990 through 2014, there are 75 players, 37 of them were starters for 7 or more years. The team that drafts a player that high is expecting that the player will be a starter more years than not on his rookie contract.
He made no Pro Bowls, which isn't that unusual. The majority of top three picks (45 out of those 75) made at least one Pro Bowl.
Compared to the six other running backs drafted in that same 1-3 area over that time period, he was in the middle. Marshall Faulk is in the Hall of Fame. Garrison Hearst was a bit more productive than Bush, Ronnie Brown a little less productive, Blair Thomas and Trent Richardson were busts and Ki-Jana Carter's career was derailed by injuries.
Bush was always going to be a part-time player. He didn`t have the size or strength to be a feature back. Using a premium pick like a #2 for somebody who, even if healthy, isn't going to be on the field all the time just doesn't make a lot of sense. But, football is also a business, and boy oh boy, he sold tickets and he sold jerseys. From THAT point of view, he was a great pick. -
At the risk of offending all Huskies everwhere, do we? include Dana Hall in there too? The stat of "he won a super bowl" is next to meaningless unless the player is the starting QB, and even then, Trent Dilfer. This is a rather harsh write up 49'er site:
Hall was drafted 18th overall from the University of Washington. The 49ers drafted him to be the heir apparent to Ronnie Lott (who had left the 49er in 1990). Sadly Hall fell on his face big time. He would spend all of three seasons with the 49ers, recording just one sack and four interceptions. We cut him after the 1994 season (so he at least got a Super Bowl ring). Hall would then have the misfortune of landing with a Browns team that was leaving Cleveland for Baltimore. When the Browns dissolved Hall would be picked up by the expansion Jaguars for the final two years of his career.
His rookie contract was for three years, $2.7 million, but by the end of his time with the 49ers he was relegated to special teams only.
There's a very good silver lining from this pick though. Hall would be injured early in the 1993 season, forcing a switch up in defense. Merton Hanks would be moved from CB to safety and would excel with three interceptions (one for a TD) in 1993 and seven interceptions in 1994. Without the pick of Hall and his subsequent injury we may never have known what Hanks was capable of.
