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RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,869 Founders Club
https://newsmax.com/politics/poll-joebiden-donaldtrump/2021/11/23/id/1045936/

Former President Donald Trump is leading in states he lost to President Joe Biden in 2020, according to a poll obtained by Politico.

Politico states that of likely voters in 2024, "the former president led Biden in Arizona by 8 percentage points, Georgia by 3 points, Michigan by 12 points, Pennsylvania by 6 points and Wisconsin by 10 points." The poll mentions that 600 likely voters were surveyed in each state.

The poll highlights that if Trump were to run again, the 73 electoral votes from those states would put him back in the White House, which would make him only the second president in history to regain his position after losing an election.


Narrator: probably the real vote totals from 2020


Breitbart's John Nolte, who commented on the poll, says, "one thing Trump should look at, and look at very closely, is how he is doing so much better on the issues that matter to voters than he is in winning their support. If you're up double digits over your opponent on the economy in, say, Georgia, but only ahead by three points, you have to ask yourself why."

Nolte adds, "and this is where Trump's weaknesses come to the fore, his sometimes off-putting personality. Through much of his presidency, he was, without question, victim to a corrupt media funded with billions and billions of corporate dollars used to manufacture lies, turmoil, and tension. But all too often, he contributed to this, made it worse, and wore out his welcome with a public exhausted by the unceasing drama and un-presidential ugliness."

Nolte highlights that Trump's success is mainly dependent on his self-analysis and whether he decides to put forth his best characteristics which would lead him to the presidency or risk letting the "petty, self-involved" parts himself lose it.

What ever. If the voters prefer the shit show we have now to Trump being mean then let them eat tofu and ride their bike to work to stay warm in the winter. The analysis isn't wrong its just meaningless. Trump is who he is. Biden is who he is.
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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,869 Founders Club
    Through much of his presidency, he was, without question, victim to a corrupt media funded with billions and billions of corporate dollars used to manufacture lies, turmoil, and tension. But all too often, he contributed to this, made it worse, and wore out his welcome with a public exhausted by the unceasing drama and un-presidential ugliness."

    Was it the way he was dressed? He was begging for it

  • huskyhooliganhuskyhooligan Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,436 Swaye's Wigwam
    But how does he poll against whoever is in charge in a couple years. A lot can happen in a couple years. I'd much rather see Desantis on the ticket, but that's me.
  • hardhathardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    A rematch of Trump v Biden might end America. This cannot happen.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,869 Founders Club
    edited November 2021
    DeathSantis is promising but another Florida governor thought it would be handed to him in 2016

    And Ron hasn't faced the full force of the smear machine aligned against him. He's going to have to earn it

    If you are looking for a nice and popular GOP candidate you might as well vote for Kamala.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,862 Standard Supporter
    edited November 2021
    Yeah but 200K more mail in ballots received than were sent out in PA says Trump loses again.
  • hardhathardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    edited November 2021

    DeathSantis is promising but another Florida governor thought it would be handed to him in 2016

    And Ron hasn't faced the full force of the smear machine aligned against him. He's going to have to earn it

    If you are looking for a nice and popular GOP candidate you might as well vote for Kamala.

    The democrats are alienating huge swathes of the population, but still clinging to the belief that the basket of deplorables just needs some more CRT and shit. I agree that no politician needs to be nice, AKA Mitt Romney, but any functional person could beat Biden if that piece of shit decides to run in 2024. All you would need to do is point to his record. Biden is worse than Trump. What we need in 2024 is a fresh start. No more shart.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,869 Founders Club
    So who is out there? Trump is banned from media and I still hear more from him on these issues than any other GOP

    Time to step up and be heard

  • Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,555 Swaye's Wigwam

    So who is out there? Trump is banned from media and I still hear more from him on these issues than any other GOP

    Time to step up and be heard

    Literally no one has a shot past Trump and Ron. Gonna be some fun rhino candidates to follow along the way and watch get slaughtered.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,869 Founders Club
    Desantis wants to get re elected in 22 as Governor to launch for President. I wonder if it wouldn't be better to get another GOP candidate for Governor and just have Ron start running for president now. Get out and be the voice of the opposition

    It's tricky to run for one office when you are going to start running for another one once you win. Not impossible but it will be used against him

    I like what Desantis is doing in Florida. No question

    As I have said if he is the nominee he gets my vote unless he goes wobbly which would be a surprise
  • hardhathardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    Cage match to the death

  • HuskyJWHuskyJW Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 14,499 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited November 2021

    So who is out there? Trump is banned from media and I still hear more from him on these issues than any other GOP

    Time to step up and be heard

    That Canadian born Cuban guy will try….what’s his name? Raphael?…..he’ll get cucked by Trump again and then slither away.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,869 Founders Club
    hardhat said:

    Cage match to the death

    They will end up coordinating. Not saying on the same ticket don't twist. But the numbers will tell them who should run

    I know it goes against everything we know but I could see Trump being the king maker and letting Ron run and supporting him. Desantis is going to be painted as Trump anyway. And he can't disavow him

    Its why the left needs to keep the narrative alive. January 6 man
  • MelloDawgMelloDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 6,710 Swaye's Wigwam
    Bob_C said:

    So who is out there? Trump is banned from media and I still hear more from him on these issues than any other GOP

    Time to step up and be heard

    Literally no one has a shot past Trump and Ron. Gonna be some fun rhino candidates to follow along the way and watch get slaughtered.
    This is likely true.
  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,419
    edited November 2021
    Georgia by only 3 points? WTF happened to Georgia? Looks like they have a bunch of converted eunuchs
  • Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,555 Swaye's Wigwam

    Desantis wants to get re elected in 22 as Governor to launch for President. I wonder if it wouldn't be better to get another GOP candidate for Governor and just have Ron start running for president now. Get out and be the voice of the opposition

    It's tricky to run for one office when you are going to start running for another one once you win. Not impossible but it will be used against him

    I like what Desantis is doing in Florida. No question

    As I have said if he is the nominee he gets my vote unless he goes wobbly which would be a surprise

    I’m sure it will be used against him, should we care that it does? If he can’t win in Florida in 2022, then he can’t win nationally in 2024. Florida fucking matters nationally, it’s direct day-to-day opposition to everything the fascists stand for. Abbott isn’t strong enough to be the lead dog Republican governor.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,869 Founders Club
    Bob_C said:

    Desantis wants to get re elected in 22 as Governor to launch for President. I wonder if it wouldn't be better to get another GOP candidate for Governor and just have Ron start running for president now. Get out and be the voice of the opposition

    It's tricky to run for one office when you are going to start running for another one once you win. Not impossible but it will be used against him

    I like what Desantis is doing in Florida. No question

    As I have said if he is the nominee he gets my vote unless he goes wobbly which would be a surprise

    I’m sure it will be used against him, should we care that it does? If he can’t win in Florida in 2022, then he can’t win nationally in 2024. Florida fucking matters nationally, it’s direct day-to-day opposition to everything the fascists stand for. Abbott isn’t strong enough to be the lead dog Republican governor.
    No. I don't care

  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    I like Ron a lot but the machine in DC will do exactly the same as they did to Trump. Being nicer or less in the face isn't going to keep the hounds at bay that matter. The elites that are all in on a one party power system. DIMS.

    Trump is like the prize fighter that traded punch for punch and in the end lost. But I'm hoping he learned and is still learning how to jab where it's necessary. I think he'd come in and when the dust settles after 6 months of an ass kicking clean out of the commies is complete, then it's onto the business of restoring this country. He has to know where to start, I think he does.
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,326 Standard Supporter
    46XiJCAB said:

    I like Ron a lot but the machine in DC will do exactly the same as they did to Trump. Being nicer or less in the face isn't going to keep the hounds at bay that matter. The elites that are all in on a one party power system. DIMS.

    Trump is like the prize fighter that traded punch for punch and in the end lost. But I'm hoping he learned and is still learning how to jab where it's necessary. I think he'd come in and when the dust settles after 6 months of an ass kicking clean out of the commies is complete, then it's onto the business of restoring this country. He has to know where to start, I think he does.

    More like the boxer who lost on the three judge card by 3 to 2.
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    That line in the Untouchables where Connery asks Costner, if you open the can of these worms you must be prepared to go all the way. They're not going to give up the fight until one of you is dead. That guy is clearly Trump.
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